Stop Calling Grown Women "Girls"

[chicago]

Nah you're good. I'm not interested in girls, so don't get too excited by thinking that I looked.

I don't know how you would know I posted a tit picture, and reference it more than a couple times, if you hadn't looked. And to be honest, girls don't have breasts. This is the problem with calling women "girls" - it ultimately sexualizes young girls. And young girls tits shouldn't be something you're so fixated on.

Oh no, let me elucidate: I can take you seriously as a girl (according to your definition). I can't take you seriously as a woman.

A great support of my original point here.

 

[silverstar]

https://nypost.com/2017/04/09/no-the-word-girl-is-not-an-anti-woman/

 

[chicago]

https://nypost.com/2017/04/09/no-the-word-girl-is-not-an-anti-woman/

I saw that too, though I was hard-pressed to find as many articles of that same opinion as there are against it. I am sure, like stated in the video in my OP, that there are women who don't mind.

 

[silverstar]

I don't know how you would know I posted a tit picture, and reference it more than a couple times, if you hadn't looked. And to be honest, girls don't have breasts. This is the problem with calling women "girls" - it ultimately sexualizes young girls. And young girls tits shouldn't be something you're so fixated on.



A great support of my original point here.

Like I mentioned, I stated that I heard you posted a tit picture. Which you confirmed on more than one occasion. Do you literally spend your life looking for reasons to be outraged? Nobody thinks the word "girl" sexualizes young girls, because for most people, that doesn't come to mind.

Except yours, for whatever peculiar reason.

And another example of your hypocrisy and misandry.

 

[chicago]

The examples in the NY Post article that are used by writer are either from an era where this idea was even more controversial or they're quotes from songs that are either written by or for a young audience.

 

[chicago]

Like I mentioned, I stated that I heard you posted a tit picture. Which you confirmed on more than one occasion.

And another example of your hypocrisy and misandry.

lmfao it is hilarious that you heard about my one tit picture and that information stuck with you for you to bring it up here multiple times and then add the disclaimer at the end that you didn't see it.

I've never heard of you in my life before this. The fact that you're talking about my tit that you haven't seen both here and privately is amazing.

Methinks thou doth protest too much

 

[silverstar]

The examples in the NY Post article that are used by writer are either from an era where this idea was even more controversial or they're quotes from songs that are either written by or for a young audience.

So in other words, you don't like that opinion because it doesn't coincide with yours. Gotcha.

 

[smokinj]

From tv news segments in the 60s / 70s featuring Betty Friedan on a late-night show correcting a man referring to her as a "girl" to Mayim's video here, it's not a new idea.

There are many articles, posts on other forums, etc online that echo my sentiments.

I like this one:

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/opinion/ok-refer-women-girls/

I don't have specific statistics, but it is my impression that there are many women who would prefer to not be infantilized.

A handful of girls over the last 50 years or so does not represent a large enough percentage of people who think we shouldn’t call them girls. It only emphasizes how trivial it is.

 

[silverstar]

lmfao it is hilarious that you heard about my one tit picture and that information stuck with you for you to bring it up here multiple times and then add the disclaimer at the end that you didn't see it.

I've never heard of you in my life before this. The fact that you're talking about my tit that you haven't seen both here and privately is amazing.

Methinks thou doth protest too much

Oh dear, that would just make your day to know that I looked at your tit picture, wouldn't it? Haha. Finally some male attention that I'd be willing to wager has eluded you for so long, that has caused you to become so bitter towards males.

You whine too much. Go out and live life and have some fun. Stop inventing ways to convince people that they're victims.

 

[meangry]

The Oxford English Dictionary is a resource that requires a subscription to use. Now, if you are using a library or college network, they often pay for a subscription for the OED. It's a fantastic resource, however, there are issues here. Three...exactly.

1.) Buying the full 20 volume set is around $1200.
2.) Buying the compact OED is around $400.
3.) Buying an annual OED subscription for an individual is $90.

Now, _virginie_ is right about procurement. However, since the OED is behind a paywall, what I would have done, and what would probably be the best thing to have done for the sake of argument, is to screencap the OED definition of girl and post it here as attachments. Then, it's there for everyone to see, especially as it is being used as a reference point.

Understanding the OED and the manner of its use, I decided to utilize the Etmology of the word girl. While OED is a lot more academically credible, it is just one tool, albeit a powerful one, for the study of Etmology. Now...in that examination, the majority of uses involved age as a codifier. In society, age is used as a mechanism to discredit or negate someone, via maturity or experience or what have you. There's also the long standing tradition of youth expectations being that they are subservient to their elders.

Now, people are all about context. The word girl isn't derogatory, and nobody here is being 'triggered' by its usage. The contextual use of the term matters. But what I think some of the argument being lost here is that this about its contextual use in terms of male sexual objectification and male possession. Chicago's boyfriend calls her girl, but the context of that and their relationship also means that in serious conversations, he's not referring to her as a girl, or his girl. It's about the possessiveness, the ownership when used in such contexts that is being argued. The video posted was about objectification. And given age and that, it comes across weird that Bilak is referred to as girl and not woman.

This isn't trumpeted outrage though. It's just looking at how we work and treat people. Not everyone has to agree...but it's not some off the wall feminist concept that is destroying western society.

 

[chicago]

A handful of girls over the last 50 years or so does not represent a large enough percentage of people who think we shouldn’t call them girls. It only emphasizes how trivial it is.

I mentioned technical definitions, posted links to said definitions, videos, links to articles, etc. I could post many more articles and you would still dismiss them. And I've only seen one link to anything stating the opposite.

Should I take that one link and the few men here who think we should keep calling grown women girls as a large enough percentage of represenation?

 

[silverstar]

I mentioned technical definitions, posted links to said definitions, videos, links to articles, etc. I could post many more articles and you would still dismiss them. And I've only seen one link to anything stating the opposite.

Should I take that one link and the few men here who think we should keep calling grown women girls as a large enough percentage of represenation?

Stop speaking for all females. I gave you an example on how another female disagreed with you, and you essentially dismissed her opinion as irrelevant and antiquated. That's disrespectful.

And stop whining.

 

[chicago]

Oh dear, that would just make your day to know that I looked at your tit picture, wouldn't it? Haha. Finally some male attention that I'd be willing to wager has eluded you for so long, that has caused you to become so bitter towards males.

You whine too much. Go out and live life and have some fun. Stop inventing ways to convince people that they're victims.

What's making my day is how hard you're trying to convince people you didn't see it. It reminds me of people who are super homophobic needing to tell the world how gay they're not lol

I have no issue with male attention or males. Look how much male attention this thread got. And I've been in a successful 6 year relationship with pretty much the best male on Earth

I never claimed anyone here was a victim either. But we've already addressed your inability to understand.

 

[chicago]

Stop speaking for all females. I gave you an example on how another female disagreed with you, and you essentially dismissed her opinion as irrelevant and antiquated. That's disrespectful.

And stop whining.

Again, I'm wondering about your ability to comprehend what you read.

 

[silverstar]

What's making my day is how hard you're trying to convince people you didn't see it. It reminds me of people who are super homophobic needing to tell the world how gay they're not lol

I have no issue with male attention or males. Look how much male attention this thread got. And I've been in a successful 6 year relationship with pretty much the best male on Earth

I never claimed anyone here was a victim either. But we've already addressed your inability to understand.

Why do you want my attention so badly? Why are you attempting to convince yourself that I saw your tit picture? Is your self esteem that low?

So you're with "pretty much the best male on Earth", but yet here you spend your time whining on a tickling forum about how much men suck, displaying her obvious misandry; not to mention posting tit shots. Go out with your significant other and have a good time. Go out to dinner. Go live life. Stop spending your time on a tickling forum, attempting to convince people that you and other gals are victims of a word crime.

 

[silverstar]

Again, I'm wondering about your ability to comprehend what you read.

Says the girl who missed the part that I merely heard you posted a tit picture, not actually saw it.

 

[chicago]

Why do you want my attention so badly? Why are you attempting to convince yourself that I saw your tit picture? Is your self esteem that low?

You're with "pretty much the best male on Earth", but yet here you spend your time whining on a tickling forum about how much men suck. Go out with your significant other and have a good time. Go out to dinner. Go live life. Stop spending your time on a tickling forum, attempting to convince people that you and other gals are victims of a word crime.

lol I spend my time doing lots of things! I can't post because I have a boyfriend? lol What does that say about the people who spend time here?

Had a great session Friday night / Saturday morning. Has left us a bit tired for the rest of the weekend. Bit early for dinner here too.

And to repeat myself, never said we were victims

 

[smokinj]

I mentioned technical definitions, posted links to said definitions, videos, links to articles, etc. I could post many more articles and you would still dismiss them. And I've only seen one link to anything stating the opposite.

Should I take that one link and the few men here who think we should keep calling grown women girls as a large enough percentage of represenation?

If you look hard enough for people against it, I’m sure you will find some. However, you can find articles, interviews about just about any subject and some rail against it and some pound the table for it. This one in particular I simply haven’t heard anyone mention until I saw your thread. That being said, I’m completely dismissing it as not important and a non issue. If you feel that strongly about it, Godspeed.

 

[chicago]

Says the person who missed the part that I merely heard you posted a tit picture, not actually saw it.

Welp, keep talking about me and hearing about me and telling the world how you didn't see that picture then I guess lol

 

[chicago]

If you look hard enough for people against it, I’m sure you will find some. However, you can find articles, interviews about just about any subject and some rail against it and some pound the table for it. This one in particular I simply haven’t heard anyone mention until I saw your thread. That being said, I’m completely dismissing it as not important and a non issue. If you feel that strongly about it, Godspeed.

That's a good point. You can find sites about anything these days, which makes finding real information increasingly difficult.

Fair enough and thank you for not being rude in that post.

 

[silverstar]

lol I spend my time doing lots of things! I can't post because I have a boyfriend? lol What does that say about the people who spend time here?

Had a great session Friday night / Saturday morning. Has left us a bit tired for the rest of the weekend. Bit early for dinner here too.

And to repeat myself, never said we were victims

Nobody said you can't post. Again, stop inventing ways to paint yourself as a victim.

Welp, keep talking about me and hearing about me and telling the world how you didn't see that picture then I guess lol

Well at least you can concede in so many words that you are indeed looking for attention, and that your reason for posting it was for attention. No surprise, given your obvious self esteem issues.

 

[chicago]

Nobody said you can't post. Again, stop inventing ways to paint yourself as a victim.

Nobody said I can't post, but who said I was a victim besides you?

EDIT:

At this point, why are you even posting in this thread anymore? It's clear where you stand and your insulting of me and how I spend my time is just odd in the face of how much you've posted here.

 

[meangry]

Nobody said you can't post. Again, stop inventing ways to paint yourself as a victim.

You're psychotic.

The admins need to do their job and ban you.

 

[silverstar]

You're psychotic.

The admins need to do their job and ban you.

^ Fraud.

Obviously, he never had me on ignore, despite claiming he did. You're a joke.

 

[silverstar]

Nobody said I can't post, but who said I was a victim besides you?

EDIT:

At this point, why are you even posting in this thread anymore? It's clear where you stand and your insulting of me and how I spend my time is just odd in the face of how much you've posted here.

Again, if you don't want to be held accountable to the rules that you wanted to play by, because you did your fair share of insulting through condescension, let me know and we can step out of the pig pen.

Until then, the new rules are in effect.