Bored with Tickling

[bigboldbat]

Is anybody else here just seriously, utterly bored with online tickling? There is never anything new on these forums, the pictures people post are boring and usually involve flimsy plywood stocks (but thanks to them for trying). Even the commercial material is awful: there must be literally thousands of producers all releasing such samely, anonymous rubbish.

I feel that tickling has gradually moved further from its roots in BDSM and into the already over-commercialised foot-fetish market. I've not been on these forums for too long, but from what I have read it seems that everyone who was interesting has either left, moved on, or been chased away by flames.

Do others feel the same, or are you all happy?

 

[Excess]

I kinda agree...

There ARE some people who do try and do things differently, but mostly the whole 'market' has just gotten stale. But there's nothing to be done about that since most people seem to like more of the same. *shrugs*

 

[CrystalLight]

I feel that tickling has gradually moved further from its roots in BDSM and into the already over-commercialised foot-fetish market. I've not been on these forums for too long, but from what I have read it seems that everyone who was interesting has either left, moved on, or been chased away by flames.

What in your terms is considered "interesting"?

I think there has been plenty of good discussion and debate. And frankly have seen an uprise in talent as far as producers go. You are going to have quirks no matter what fetish board you come into.

I'm satisfied with this forum, due to it being a "flame free forum". Whatever has the potential to get too much out of hand is shut down anyways.

So, I don't think the "chased away by flames" statement really works here.

 

[bigboldbat]

There ARE some people who do try and do things differently

Who? Most are not only samely, but are full-on fake! The most real of all the active mainstream producers is Last Laugh Inc, and even their material gets boring after a while.

What in your terms is considered "interesting"?

Well firstly, something real. Something with at least some intensity to it. Something where the producer has actually spent time thinking about the atmosphere and the lighting, and not just using the same PVC bondage cuffs tied in a spreadeagle position. Something with stocks more than one inch thick.

I think there has been plenty of good discussion and debate.

Really??? Here??? Any attempt to diverge from soft-cutsie tickling goes nowhere. Most of the posts in the discussions section concern,
"Will this make me more ticklish?"
"What's the worst thing about being tickled?"
"What's the weirdest safeword you've heard?"

None of these discussions are going to contribute new ideas to the fetish, and many of them are filled with unresearched misinformation.

And frankly have seen an uprise in talent as far as producers go.

Can you name some please?

I'm satisfied with this forum, due to it being a "flame free forum". Whatever has the potential to get too much out of hand is shut down anyways.

I've seen quite a few flames. The worst are closed down, but only after a while and often removing an otherwise interesting thread. Mention anything about itching powder, bastinado or he-who-shall-not-be-named and you risk a few flame comments.

 

[Texas_Tickle]

Is anybody else here just seriously, utterly bored with online tickling? There is never anything new on these forums, the pictures people post are boring and usually involve flimsy plywood stocks (but thanks to them for trying). Even the commercial material is awful: there must be literally thousands of producers all releasing such samely, anonymous rubbish.

I feel that tickling has gradually moved further from its roots in BDSM and into the already over-commercialised foot-fetish market. I've not been on these forums for too long, but from what I have read it seems that everyone who was interesting has either left, moved on, or been chased away by flames.

Do others feel the same, or are you all happy?

I am very happy here, personally. But then again what floats my boat, may not float your boat. It's impossible to please 100% of the people 100% of the time.

I also noticed that you had just 2 posts. Did you just decide to create an account, just to say how bored you were with tickling?

 

[CrystalLight]

Well firstly, something real. Something with at least some intensity to it. Something where the producer has actually spent time thinking about the atmosphere and the lighting, and not just using the same PVC bondage cuffs tied in a spreadeagle position. Something with stocks more than one inch thick.

You sound as if you know what you are doing. Then perhaps you should take a stab at producing yourself.

Or at the very least, emailing your producers of interest and shooting them these ideas.

The only way to get new results is by an attempt at contribution.

None of these discussions are going to contribute new ideas to the fetish, and many of them are filled with unresearched misinformation.

You have been clicking on the wrong links, I'm afraid. Search a bit more. Or open your eyes. There are tons of intriguing discussions happening.

And it's not only in TK.

And I would know, because I can relate to all those fluff threads and how frustrating they can be. That's why I try not to post to many of them. Because it's all repetitive.

Can you name some please?

I don't do much Audio/Video, but Zen Tickling has become a big favorite of mine as of late.

I've seen quite a few flames. The worst are closed down, but only after a while and often removing an otherwise interesting thread. Mention anything about itching powder, bastinado or he-who-shall-not-be-named and you risk a few flame comments.

Itching powder will start a flame war?

And who is "he-who-shall-not-be-named"? I'm sure your not referring to Lord Voldermont.

 

[AffectionateDan]

And who is "he-who-shall-not-be-named"? I'm sure your not referring to Lord Voldermont.

Oh, thank GOD I wasn't taking a drink when I read this.

I think it's a matter of perspectives and values, basically. Not everybody is looking for the same thing from tickling, nor are they all going to take away the same thing as others from the same experiences. I, for one, could NEVER become bored with tickling. It's just unthinkable. That would be like, hell, I dunno... becoming bored with oxygen. This is who I am, and while I may not NEED it to live, what kinda life would I live without it? Exactly. No thanks. Hell, after a while, I stopped coming here strictly for the tickling content anyways. This is our home. Our NEST-away-from-NEST. Our 'Cheers'. Where everybody knows your name, yanno? The coffee house downstairs where the gang hangs out. It's where we network with all the friends we've made over the years, stay in touch. Oh, and there's also tickling material here.

At least for me. Like I said, everybody's gonna get something different out of what they're offered. But bored? Naw, hell no.

 

[-Hari-]

i couldn't disagree more to be honest. I think if anything it's getting better, there a load of members of this forum making clips such as viper, cavum, leeallure... This is good cause none of it's fake and it's made by people who have a genuine love for tickling, far better than what i used to find. There's some great discussion going on with members of all ages and pictures of members all over the place weather it just they're face or more, it's interesting now cause all the main people i talk to have a picture somewhere so i know what they look like, i never had that before, there is alot of poor material about but everyones into different stuff. I'm happier with how things are now than i ever have been.

 

[bigboldbat]

You sound as if you know what you are doing. Then perhaps you should take a stab at producing yourself.

Or at the very least, emailing your producers of interest and shooting them these ideas.

The only way to get new results is by an attempt at contribution.

I know - I shouldn't criticise unless I'm willing to try and do better myself ... blah blah... trouble is, producing good videos is about more than just taping high quality tickle material... you need the equipment, models, finances... and there is no guarantee other people will have the same tastes as me - I could probably make more money producing the watered-down material which seems to sell well here.

You have been clicking on the wrong links, I'm afraid. Search a bit more. Or open your eyes. There are tons of intriguing discussions happening.

I have been looking - I haven't found anything I would call intriguing.

And it's not only in TK.

Yeah. Tickling is not my primary fetish - I'm more into BDSM. I must prefer the style of tickling in the bondage world, but there just isn't very much of it.

And I would know, because I can relate to all those fluff threads and how frustrating they can be. That's why I try not to post to many of them. Because it's all repetitive.

Thanks - it's not just me then.

Itching powder will start a flame war?

Yeah, along the lines that it isn't tickling... or that it's poisonous, or made of fiberglass or acid...

 

[Excess]

Had me at first...

Just with a general thing, I mean I didn't agree completely, but I saw where you were coming from, and was only referring to the general media. However, now I find myself questioning whether or not you're just trying to start a bit argument for lulz. XD

 

[CrystalLight]

I know - I shouldn't criticise unless I'm willing to try and do better myself ... blah blah... trouble is, producing good videos is about more than just taping high quality tickle material... you need the equipment, models, finances... and there is no guarantee other people will have the same tastes as me - I could probably make more money producing the watered-down material which seems to sell well here.

Then you should take the steps that this site makes available to find out what other's might else be possibly interested in.

Post threads, ask questions, take polls, etc.

That is if it's something you are legitimitley interested in doing, and aren't just voicing a general distaste for the video as of late.

I have been looking - I haven't found anything I would call intriguing.

What is considered intriguing to you?

Start a thread about it.

You did that with this thread.

Yeah. Tickling is not my primary fetish - I'm more into BDSM. I must prefer the style of tickling in the bondage world, but there just isn't very much of it.

I've seen plenty of Bondage clips. ViperGTS does a lot of bondage vid's along with a few others here.

Yeah, along the lines that it isn't tickling... or that it's poisonous, or made of fiberglass or acid...

I take it I am left to my own devices as to who "he-who-shall-not-be-named" is?

 

[jk666uk]

Is anybody else here just seriously, utterly bored with online tickling? There is never anything new on these forums, the pictures people post are boring and usually involve flimsy plywood stocks (but thanks to them for trying). Even the commercial material is awful: there must be literally thousands of producers all releasing such samely, anonymous rubbish.

I feel that tickling has gradually moved further from its roots in BDSM and into the already over-commercialised foot-fetish market. I've not been on these forums for too long, but from what I have read it seems that everyone who was interesting has either left, moved on, or been chased away by flames.

Do others feel the same, or are you all happy?

your right about the whole over-commercialised foot-fetish market

 

[Snail Shell]

I think what it boils down to is, "Bored with the forums? Start what you want to see on the forums. Bored with online stuff in general? Go to a gathering in your area."

Or better yet, start a new gathering.

Snail Shell

 

[bellytklr1973]

i gota agree the usual tickling got boring too after a while then i found these tickling with a story like dad punishes daughter and stuff but that got boring too so now i spend most time reading TK fics about celebrities and such and about pics i usually check out the celebrity pics cus the rest just aint interesting

 

[CrystalLight]

Nothing is going to magically pop up to your specific liking, unless you put it there.

This forum's contributions are made completely by the users.

Get out there and post, if there is nothing to your liking that you can see.

 

[birdburdy]

I pretty much agree with most of what bigboldbat says. But I don't think there is an easy way to fix it, which is why I don't come here very often. Actually I mostly read the Discussions section here these days.

I've seen plenty of Bondage clips. ViperGTS does a lot of bondage vid's along with a few others here.

I agree that Cavum and ViperGTS are quite good, but they aren't like completely amazing or anything. It seems to go in phases, a few years back (on TT) there were large collections of all the tickling snippets from actual bondage (S/M) videos. After that died off the online scene became dominated by foot concepts, foot paradise and other light material. Hopefully there will be another change soon.

I take it I am left to my own devices as to who "he-who-shall-not-be-named" is?

I can only assume he means Kujman, the hat would appear to fit - going by the number of flames he received and the quality of his material. Perhaps Lord Voldermort does have a tickling fetish though?

 

[CrystalLight]

I agree that Cavum and ViperGTS are quite good, but they aren't like completely amazing or anything. It seems to go in phases, a few years back (on TT) there were large collections of all the tickling snippets from actual bondage (S/M) videos. After that died off the online scene became dominated by foot concepts, foot paradise and other light material. Hopefully there will be another change soon.

Well, like I've said.. Write to the producers..request things..etc.

I can only assume he means Kujman, the hat would appear to fit - going by the number of flames he received and the quality of his material.

What's a Kujman?

Perhaps Lord Voldermort does have a tickling fetish though?

Dude. That would be so fucking cool.

 

[Artoo]

Dude. That would be so fucking cool.

RICTUMSEMPRA!!!

 

[birdburdy]

If only Kujman would come back...

Well, like I've said.. Write to the producers..request things..etc.

I'm kind of fine with not looking at clips these days - I do what I want in my private life. It would be far too much effort for me to try and find what I like online now, as there's so much of it. I honestly do not believe the majority of tickling producers have the technical knowledge to know how to take it up a level... I'd like to be proven wrong though.

What's a Kujman?

WOW. You've seriously not heard of him? There is a lot of history, far too much to mention here. There is a lot of controversy too. I'll try and present facts, and then popular opinions:

He was one of the very first to popularise tickling, and his early material dates back to the 70s. He is partly responsible for the HOM (House of Milan) vintage-style tickling videos. He helped set up these very forums and I've heard (though I don't know this, that the picture of the feet and nails at the top left are his).

He seems to have an extremely large repertoire, but is most widely known for his more intense videos. You might think Last Laugh of RealTickling are intense, but seriously his material was very very extreme. I think for that reason people either love it, or hate it. He didn't just do tickling either: bastinado (with a wooden ruler or spoon I think), hot foots and heat from a hairdryer, oh and goats too!

It's difficult to explain, but he kind of unifies bondage, S/M and tickling into one - and it works. He invented a type of stocks called the Westfield stocks, in which the ankles are pressed together and the wrists either side. This forces the head and upper body forward on top of the knees - the victim's head is like 10 inches from their toes, and they really cannot move much at all. Unfortunately nobody else seems to have tried to do the same thing :-(.

He tried to sell his videos, through a site called www.ticklepalace.com (which itself was pretty impressive - like an interactive dungeon). However problems with the shipping company meant people were having to wait several months. There were so many flamewars about it that he gave up: in the end only one video was fully released. He since requested that his material not be posted anywhere on the internet and takes very little to do with online things now.

Having said that, he does have a yahoo group where he posts about techniques, stocks designs and the occasional picture or video. The group address is called ticklepalace.

It is a pity it turned out the way it did, his style was so unique - there's never been anything else like it.

 

[-Hari-]

the s&m clips that were talked about as a thing of the past are still readily avialiable, just go to hogtied.com or another similar, they often use tickling as part of they're session. It's just people arm't posting them for free anymore,

 

[xSamanthax]

RICTUMSEMPRA!!!

Asshole forever??? Oh wait that says rictum, not rectum.

Sorry!

(PS, that was not me calling anyone an asshole, lol. Just me trying to make a play on latin words that I don't actually understand!)

 

[CrystalLight]

I'm kind of fine with not looking at clips these days - I do what I want in my private life. It would be far too much effort for me to try and find what I like online now, as there's so much of it. I honestly do not believe the majority of tickling producers have the technical knowledge to know how to take it up a level... I'd like to be proven wrong though.

You're post's are dope. You should post more, man.

There is a lot of controversy too. I'll try and present facts, and then popular opinions:

I enjoy controversy. Carry on, my friend.

He was one of the very first to popularise tickling, and his early material dates back to the 70s.

First reason why I haven't heard/known much of him.

I was born in '88.

oh and goats too!

Wha!?

the victim's head is like 10 inches from their toes, and they really cannot move much at all. Unfortunately nobody else seems to have tried to do the same thing.

Sounds like great potential for throwing your back out. That might be why?

There were so many flamewars about it that he gave up: in the end only one video was fully released. He since requested that his material not be posted anywhere on the internet and takes very little to do with online things now.

So..Why all the controversy as to mentioning his name? Because of all that?

That doesn't sound too bad.

It is a pity it turned out the way it did, his style was so unique - there's never been anything else like it.

It does sound unique.

It look's like a lot of this thread, and your opinions are based more then less on the Video's section, instead of the rest of the forum, yes?

So..in saying that, you have no interest in posting to TK or GD?

 

[birdburdy]

You're post's are dope. You should post more, man.

I enjoy controversy. Carry on, my friend.

Thanks!

Sounds like great potential for throwing your back out. That might be why?

As long as you're reasonably fit it's not a problem (I have some that I built, with his advice). If you can touch your toes while standing you'll have no trouble at all. As it happens I cannot, but it's still reasonably comfortable. I forgot to mention, there is also a toe-bar... to which the toes are intricately and individually tied, in order to immobilise the feet.

BigBoldBat - this is interesting - see his stocks are more than just simple trapping devices. The feet are together - one big surface to torture, the hands are near -but-oh-so-far- from the feet (if only you could just reach...) and the toes pulled back slightly, tensing the balls of the feet and pushing the nerves closer to the surface. It's amazing to watch the victim's hands flap around when they're tickled!

The tape he originally sold was of a sorority initiation that he did. I believe a local sorority needed a new, safe way to initiate members... through a friend they got in touch with Kujman and came up with a 4 hour long tickling, bastinado, heating ordeal, in the same stocks I describe above.

So..in saying that, you have no interest in posting to TK or GD?

What's TK, or GD? I post quite regularly on the ticklepalace yahoo group.

 

[P[a]pi]

I'm pretty sure the pic in the upper left corner is Dorothy Laine tickling Cathryn Beaumont's feet.

I know the two videos it could be from, but I couldn't find the exact pic. I think I've seen it before though.


Also, if you're bored with online tickling, you could always try real-life tickling. Ya know, the kind where you actually do it, instead of waiting for somebody to give you what you want over the Internet.

 

[Sidrablem]

My response to the original post

for starters, I am glad that bigboldbat started this thread because this discussion sub-forum gets its life from the opinions of those who speak up in it. So thank you for sharing your opinion about your experience and what you think. I have read all of the posts so far and I think the first thing that we should all remember is that everybody is here for different reasons, and that though we share a common interest, we are all thoroughly unique. That being said, I don't know what it would take for you to not be bored anymore, which is why I am just replying to the original post.

So as for your original post, am I utterly bored with online tickling? No. But I was pretty close to being utterly bored. I have been on these forums for a while and have checked out every sub-forum multiple times, sometimes just starting at the very beginning of the forums and working my way up to the present, which can take up a lot of time. But yes, I do get bored with online tickling, mostly because I've seen almost everything. I have figured out what I like and don't like. When there's a new company I like to give them a chance, some are great (to me), while others are bleh (to me). However, I support people getting on the forums and contributing, just as you did with this thread.

So I sort of share your boredom, while I don't share your opinions about the commercial tickling or the methods for tickling. I like some of the stuff that gets put out there, so I check back often. Unfortunately for me, I am a college student, and my scholarship money only goes so far, so I can not buy all of the clips that I like.

I noticed that you mentioned tickling's roots in BDSM, and it's direction heading toward the foot fetish industry. Though BDSM is not really my cup of tea, I share your thoughts about the foot thing. Feet are not my favorite subject, but there are like a bajillion people who really love feet. So while pumping out feet videos may be good (and profitable) for some people (maybe even most people), it's not good for me, so I have to just wait for something else to my liking. The bondage can be poor at times, but people like different stuff. While I can handle the bastinado stuff, something else I really like is when there is no bondage at all, just a willing 'lee holding her hands up or out or behind her head or something. Once again, diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.

The part about all of the interesting people is just a little taboo, because that is your opinion. I actually somewhat agree with you too, because I used to love reading when people would get into it on the forum. I'd watch these people go back and forth, or throw out one-liners to get on somebody's nerves. That was some great entertainment. So while that was interesting to me, it was not necessarily the best thing for the forum, so I am ok with the flamers and the trolls not posting as much.
In fact, if you look at my first ever post, you will see that the thread I posted to was just an artwork thread, with ftmench completely burning this dude, and I just had to share my appreciation for it. It still makes me laugh, even just thinking about it.

So to sum up, your final question in your post was, do I feel the same way that you do or am I happy? Well, I feel the same way in a few cases, but I am happy. The main thing that has kept me happy is that after the boredom kicked in, I started creating my own material. I draw (though I don't have a scanner) and make celebrity fakes (most recent -
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=127114 )
this keeps me busy and not bored, and makes me happy because I am contributing to the website. I chose to do that fake of Brooke Burns not because I liked her (I didn't even know who she was) but because somebody else expressed interest in her (a photo of her getting a pedicure and having a ticklish reaction).
Recently I dug up some of the old request threads to see if anybody had ever requested anything that was never made. I am working on four new fakes that were requested up to three years ago (by people who are still active). This gives me something to do, and makes me happy, and hopefully makes someone else happier. The only thing that makes me unhappy anymore is when nobody responds to one of my posts, especially if I did with someone on the forum in mind.

At least this thread is giving you something to do, so we have alleviated your boredom for a little while. Of course, I don't believe that it is any of our responsibilities to worry about how bored you are, I just like sharing my opinion sometimes (stops me from getting bored).

-Mel