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Giving up.

I hope this helps out people, everyone has valid points. But Ray has the best point with that wonderful picture lol. Good things come to those who are patient
 
I hope this helps out people, everyone has valid points. But Ray has the best point with that wonderful picture lol. Good things come to those who are patient

So interesting. Nothing good in life comes to those who are patient. Only to those that seek them. Sure...patience might be part of the seeking process but without actually being a "go getter" one can expect nothing. When it comes to love it isn't fair. There isn't one person out there for everyone....Some people will have multiple people....while many will go without.

GQ
 
Sock tickler,

You just saved me a whole lotta typing. Cheers, dude.
 
Socktickler, Phineas- Expecting male-decipherable behaviour from a woman is as futile as women wanting to wave a wand to render us better with colour coordination or to magically make us more 'sensitive'.

Just because we may not like the way they generally interact is no motive for them to change. The cold hard fact is that when young and beautiful they have no need to do so. It's you who want something from them, not vice versa.

If you study the species you'll learn how to attract more of them; and no, money is not a necessity. Just cut down on your internet time and get out and practise by socializing with the real thing- frustrating though it may be. It certainly was for me for awhile, but eventually one develops a knack. End of story and good luck.
 
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Boo Hoo, come on man! TMF Gatherings, Escort Services, Gentlemen's Clubs, Etc. There are ways for you to have a tickle encounter at the very least and hey, it just may break the ice on meeting someone. In the mean time dude, sack up and for the sake of all tickle lovers,

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER GIVE UP!

Peace
 
Try exploring bisexuality.

25 years of pursuing women exclusively through the conventional methods of getting involved in community events where like-minded people are likely to meet each other, and actively pursuing relationships? = lots of rejection, lots of frustration, low self-esteem and self loathing. And during the relatively few actual relationships? Lots of head games, very little actual sex, and never one -- not a single bloody one -- into tickling.

Whereas five months on bear chat sites? A hookup offer within my first couple days on USAFUR, conversations with dozens of charming bears, feeling overwhelmingly appreciated in ways I /never/ had before and DINGDINGDINGDINGDING ... a boyfriend who's into tickling and my first ever tickle session.

Probably other people's experiences with women have been way more positive, but out here in the wilds of western North Dakota we weren't talking about an especially promising range of prospects to begin with so ... happiness. Elusive. Not impossible. :)
 
So interesting. Nothing good in life comes to those who are patient. Only to those that seek them. Sure...patience might be part of the seeking process but without actually being a "go getter" one can expect nothing. When it comes to love it isn't fair. There isn't one person out there for everyone....Some people will have multiple people....while many will go without.

GQ

I feel like that is an excuse. yes the point is to not give up, but to think so negatively thatthere may not be someone for you. then there truly isn't. By the time you finish moping you may have missed who was waiting, ya know?
 
I feel like that is an excuse. yes the point is to not give up, but to think so negatively thatthere may not be someone for you. then there truly isn't. By the time you finish moping you may have missed who was waiting, ya know?

Sent from my iPhone so excuse the typos.

Some people will go without. This is a fact. Some men will have dozens of partners, the average guy has 7 and some guys will die virgins. This is a fact.

As for me...well....let's not worry about me. I do quite ok. I follow my own advice and meet/attract/date the women I used to fantasized about as a kid.

The point I was trying to make is that a guy can't leave his destiny up to chance. He must work for it just like anything else in life. People just don't become Drs By being patient. They do it by working their asses off. When it comes to women it's no different, one must get out there and go after her. It's nit like the movies where the hermit gets the girl. In real life the hermit dies alone and the most social guy likely already slept with your girl on spring break. Some might see this as being negative buti se it as the truth. Besides...I'm that social guy ;)

Listen to Libertine....he knows exactly what he's talking about.

GQ
 
I got rejected by plenty of girls in HS, probably because back then I was thin, ugly, and probably didnt go after the right girls. The worst thing was: A friend of mine who was not in the "In" crowd, asked out the hottest girl in school, and when she rejected him, he ended up trying suicide over it. Not smart. If I tried suicide over every girl who rejected me, I'd have been dead when I was 15. When I got to college, I was able to find diverse people, girls to date, and had a long term relationship for a while. She wasnt ticklish, as i've posted before, but in the early 90s that didnt matter as much, because at that time I didnt know tickling was a fetish for me.

Even though I'm going to be 42 in a couple of weeks, am still single, and this is not how I planned it, I'm not going to give up. I know I have a few things to iron out in my personal life first, and then I am going to work on finding a girl to be with. While at times I will admit feeling frustrated, if I gave up.. then I know I'll never be with anyone. Did I give up working.. or planning on doing a new business, just because I had a business that failed? No.. Feeling frustrated, taking time to collect oneself, and moving on is one thing. Giving up is quite another.

If the girl I find is a vanilla with all the qualities who doesnt like being tickled.. I'll attempt to compromise. Hopefully, if she has all the personality qualities I want.,. she will love me enough to at least indulge me in my fetishes sometimes. If that can happen, and the rest of our relationship works, I'll consider it a success.

Mitch
 
Guys, you're wrong - it does work for guys too! :) I didn't say they shouldn't interact, they just shouldn't run after every woman they see and start calling her terms of endearment before they even had the first drink together! (And yes, I met guys like that....one of them was a 53 years old virgin, go figure....).

A guy who does his own thing and carries himself with high self-esteem is just irresistible and totally interesting.
 
Guys, you're wrong - it does work for guys too! :) I didn't say they shouldn't interact, they just shouldn't run after every woman they see and start calling her terms of endearment before they even had the first drink together! (And yes, I met guys like that....one of them was a 53 years old virgin, go figure....).

A guy who does his own thing and carries himself with high self-esteem is just irresistible and totally interesting.

I think you're missing what the guys are saying. We're not advocating talking and flirting with every woman we see. We are saying though that when it comes to women it is better to stack the deck in your favor. Some men(myself included) live lives that simply don't have you crossing paths with many eligible women. Many guys in this position follow your advice of not acting and end up alone or worse....settling with the first woman they can find. What we're advocating is taking the proactive approach of living a life where many women cross your path. Small changes can help enormously. Something as simple as taking one's laptop to the busy cafe down the road can vastly increase the number of women a guy would have met had he just used his laptop at home. If that same guy starts to apply this this thinking to everything in his life he will surely guarantee that his chances of meeting someone will increase. I'm not saying do yoga to meet chics. That's disingenuous and women can sense that. But if you're genuinely interested give it a shot! Want to know how to dance....take a class. Need to become more religious....join a youth worship group. Need to get fit, join a big, nice gym. Align your interest with the interest that your potential date would have. Once you meet you already have something in common.

You would think that this thinking would come naturally to men. It doesn't. My mom and sister taught me the same thing..."someday a nice girl will come along". That's not true. Men must go after everything they want. The better and more skilled they are the easier it is to get it.

That girl I met at dance class(could have skipped that)/happy hour(could have played baskteball instead)/trader joes(walmart is cheaper)/that fancy bar(my buddy's are at the cheap bar)/that fancy gym(base has a free gym) ect thinks it was fate that we met. Sorta....but I bent fate in my favor.

Stack the deck gentlemen.

GQ
 
Socktickler, Phineas- Expecting male-decipherable behaviour from a woman is as futile as women wanting to wave a wand to render us better with colour coordination or to magically make us more 'sensitive'.

Just because we may not like the way they generally interact is no motive for them to change. The cold hard fact is that when young and beautiful they have no need to do so. It's you who want something from them, not vice versa.

If you study the species you'll learn how to attract more of them; and no, money is not a necessity. Just cut down on your internet time and get out and practise by socializing with the real thing- frustrating though it may be. It certainly was for me for awhile, but eventually one develops a knack. End of story and good luck.

Actually, you misunderstand me. My original point was that, good or bad, women do not initiate. I neither celebrate nor condemn this behavior; it is what it is, but I'd say that given the number of women who complain that they can't get men to do what they want, common sense would indicate being a bit more direct.

Regardless, I live a full life, with lots of not-at-home activity and socialization and I am no further to getting a girlfriend now than I was six years ago. As sock tickler said, any woman I meet who seems interested, is not. Reading books, knowing the signals, etc. has not helped. About a year ago I simply stopped caring. Since then, or even before, no one has expressed interest or approached me - except for one woman who turned out to be psychotic. Even so, I had to ask her out. I have never been asked out, and all of he women I've dated never gave off any obvious signals of interest.
 
Hearing people say they are "giving up" is very common this time of year, because of the family holidays (very rough if you don't have strong family bonds or no family at all), the coming of the new year (and reflecting on the old) and because its the dead of winter (cold and dark). People who are depressed should give it time, stay active and social and by spring they are usually happier.

-Danny
 
You would think that this thinking would come naturally to men. It doesn't. My mom and sister taught me the same thing..."someday a nice girl will come along". That's not true. Men must go after everything they want. The better and more skilled they are the easier it is to get it.

Exactly. While I agree with the rest of your post, this is something I particularly wanted to point out. "Someday a nice girl will come along" is so true, except she's already going to be taken! People that think that there is a special someONE out there and someday you'll run across them are horribly diluted. There are plenty of fantastic girls out there but there are also plenty of fantastic guys as well. The probability that a girl will, as us physicists like to put it, random talk into your non-interacting life and still be single is exceedingly low. There are plenty of good guys actively seeking good girls and it's all stacking the deck against yourself if you just hope it happens.
 
I'm not saying do yoga to meet chics. That's disingenuous and women can sense that. But if you're genuinely interested give it a shot! Want to know how to dance....take a class. Need to become more religious....join a youth worship group. Need to get fit, join a big, nice gym. Align your interest with the interest that your potential date would have. Once you meet you already have something in common.

Be careful with this approach- my old ballet teacher went to ballet class for just this reason, when he was a teenager (girl he liked was at the class) and he wound up stuck with a 20+ year career in professional ballet and did not even get the girl! :facepalm2: And being very adept at dance or yoga won't help much dating-wise. We'll just assume you are gay if you are too into those things.

Actually, you misunderstand me. My original point was that, good or bad, women do not initiate. I have never been asked out, and all of he women I've dated never gave off any obvious signals of interest.

Point number 1: For the most part, we do not HAVE to initiate, so we don't bother. Cause and effect. However- because men are so accustomed to women being indirect and having to hunt for "hidden signals", I have found that they miss the times when women ARE being direct! They can't see the forest for the trees... so keep your ears open, sometimes what's being said to you is actually exactly what it means!

Point number 2: If they are dating you, that is, more than one date/couple coffee meetings, they are interested! Why would they go out with you repeatedly (unless they have specifically stated you are just friends) unless they fancied you? Of course I may misunderstand your comment entirely, and you might just mean that they never gave off any signals PRIOR to dating you. If so, my apologies.

"Someday a nice girl will come along" is so true, except she's already going to be taken! People that think that there is a special someONE out there and someday you'll run across them are horribly deluded. There are plenty of fantastic girls out there but there are also plenty of fantastic guys as well. The probability that a girl will, as us physicists like to put it, randomly walk into your non-interacting life and still be single is exceedingly low. There are plenty of good guys actively seeking good girls and it's all stacking the deck against yourself if you just hope it happens.

Remember every "taken" woman was single once...

Obviously you do have to go and search, but you might want to try beginning the quest a bit closer to home. Often, if you are in a very specialized field, or have a very specific set of interests, your best chance at a relationship is going to be with people who share at least some of your interests.

When I attended some Mensa meetings about 9 years ago- and yes, I passed the test, so I wasn't just crashing the party- I found that nearly all the members were single, which WAS a plus, and were happiest discussing their impossibly specific specialities with the other Mensa members, which was NOT. Almost all, (of both genders) were very shy, which is why they weren't even attempting to date one another, the only people who could understand what they were talking about. I only mention this because you say you're a physicist...

In addition to your profession, Phineas' profile mentions that he's a software engineer. Neither the male or female members of either profession are known for their natural flamboyance or wild amatory exploits. Love and attraction aren't scientific and logical. Keep that in mind.
 
Obviously you do have to go and search, but you might want to try beginning the quest a bit closer to home. Often, if you are in a very specialized field, or have a very specific set of interests, your best chance at a relationship is going to be with people who share at least some of your interests.

When I attended some Mensa meetings about 9 years ago- and yes, I passed the test, so I wasn't just crashing the party- I found that nearly all the members were single, which WAS a plus, and were happiest discussing their impossibly specific specialities with the other Mensa members, which was NOT. Almost all, (of both genders) were very shy, which is why they weren't even attempting to date one another, the only people who could understand what they were talking about. I only mention this because you say you're a physicist...

In addition to your profession, Phineas' profile mentions that he's a software engineer. Neither the male or female members of either profession are known for their natural flamboyance or wild amatory exploits. Love and attraction aren't scientific and logical. Keep that in mind.

I had a chat with my adviser many years back about the day in the life of a scientist. He said that since your work is going to be so interesting and require so much of your time, you should expect all your friends and even your wife to be from your job or work within your field or nearby field.

I probably should have quit right then and there.

Naw just kidding. Contrary to the Big Bang Theory (an awful TV show in the US), people in scientific fields (although there does seem to be an exception to be made with computer science and IT folks) are fairly normal people. I think you made the mistake of going to a Mensa meeting which is.... hmm, how do I put this lightly. One would probably make a habit (a habit as opposed to your one visit) of going to such meetings if they're insecure and want to believe they're better than others because of their IQ. The types of people who obsess over IQ are usually very... single and very incapable of normal human interaction. I'm surrounded by a bunch of theoretical physicists fairly regularly and in the 7 years I was at my University, not a single person ever mentioned IQ or Mensa or ever went to a meeting. It's a joke. Real scientists gather at conferences to discuss ideas and such, not at Mensa meetings or whatever.

Actually, what the hell. I just realized my adviser's wife owns a business selling clothes, the chair of our department has a wife who.... let's just say has no scientific background. My undergrad research professor's wife sings for Disney. He lied to me! In fact, I can't think of anyone at our department who met their wife in a scientific environment. I wonder what other lies he's told me....
 
I had a chat with my adviser many years back about the day in the life of a scientist. He said that since your work is going to be so interesting and require so much of your time, you should expect all your friends and even your wife to be from your job or work within your field or nearby field.

I probably should have quit right then and there.

Naw just kidding. Contrary to the Big Bang Theory (an awful TV show in the US), people in scientific fields (although there does seem to be an exception to be made with computer science and IT folks) are fairly normal people. I think you made the mistake of going to a Mensa meeting which is.... hmm, how do I put this lightly. One would probably make a habit (a habit as opposed to your one visit) of going to such meetings if they're insecure and want to believe they're better than others because of their IQ. The types of people who obsess over IQ are usually very... single and very incapable of normal human interaction. I'm surrounded by a bunch of theoretical physicists fairly regularly and in the 7 years I was at my University, not a single person ever mentioned IQ or Mensa or ever went to a meeting. It's a joke. Real scientists gather at conferences to discuss ideas and such, not at Mensa meetings or whatever.

Actually, what the hell. I just realized my adviser's wife owns a business selling clothes, the chair of our department has a wife who.... let's just say has no scientific background. My undergrad research professor's wife sings for Disney. He lied to me! In fact, I can't think of anyone at our department who met their wife in a scientific environment. I wonder what other lies he's told me....

I think I went to about 3-4 of the meetings in total. It was a university chapter, so most of the people were in grad school and 24 or younger, so not "real scientists" yet and probably had a tendency to be more socially awkward than older folk. And now you mention it, no one at the meetings mentioned IQ during them! Rather like people don't have to explain that they like tickling during NEST or some other gathering.

My family (one side of it especially) has a rather disproportionate number of scientists, who married others in similar fields, or with an interest in science, and they did all mention to me at some point that while this was certainly not the focus of their relationships, the shared understanding did help initially. I certainly wouldn't advocate only looking in your own field- I sure as heck wouldn't have married a ballet dancer, even if I could find a straight one- but sometimes that commonality does provide a good starting point.
 
Point number 1: For the most part, we do not HAVE to initiate, so we don't bother. Cause and effect.

That's not the point. I'm aware that women don't have to intiate... and it's because since men are expected to, we do. Cause and effect, yes; but as socktickler points out, and Libertine also mentions, a lot of women simply believe that initiating is the man's job. Witness all of the threads here from women wondering how they can get their boyfriends to tickle them without actually asking them to do it.

Regardless, as I said before, I don't condemn this school of thought. It is what it is. However, it does mean that if I want a date, I have three options:

One, I can ask. It's what's expected of me anyway. If I don't ask, that leaves me with...

Two - wait for the girl to ask. I'm nearly forty years old. It's happened three times in the last twenty years. Not good odds. So that brings us to...

Three - I ask, but I increase my chances by trying to only ask the girls who are sending off "signals". I haven't been right yet.

Point number 2: If they are dating you, that is, more than one date/couple coffee meetings, they are interested!

Not necessarily.

Why would they go out with you repeatedly (unless they have specifically stated you are just friends) unless they fancied you?

How should I know? But trust me, it happens. I once had an on-again, off-again thing with a woman for nearly a year. She was often busy, so we were always working around her schedule, and I was patient. We even made out occasionally, but when I expressed an interest in taking things further, she said she only liked me as a friend. Women go out with me for a free dinner and an ego boost, apparently. Or to alleviate boredom. It's rarely because they're into me. However...

Of course I may misunderstand your comment entirely, and you might just mean that they never gave off any signals PRIOR to dating you. If so, my apologies.

This is also correct. Nearly every woman I dated seriously gave off no signals prior to getting involved with me. One of my girlfriends, who I dated for nearly a year, used to hide from me whenever I came over (I was dating her roommate at the time) because she didn't trust herself not to try and steal me away from her roomie. When we finally did date (a total fluke, I asked her out because said roomie dumped me and I figured hey, why not, she was hot), I almost didn't ask her out a second time because she said all of two words in conversation and certainly didn't touch me or flirt with me.

I've seen women overtly flirt with men. The only ones who've ever done it to me were looking for an ego boost, nothing more. So, to again restate my point from Rhiannon's comment, if I sit back and wait for something to happen, I'll be waiting for a long time.

As for stacking the deck? How much more do I have to stack it? Isn't the six-figure salary, guitar playing, wide social network, interest in large amount of things, extensive travelling history, and a bunch of other stuff I'm not mentioning enough? Do I need to go for a Nobel Prize next?

I spent a good year doing nothing but going to parties, meeting people, clubbing, and getting out and about. I didn't meet anyone interested in dating from any of it. When I "take my laptop to Starbucks", nobody strikes up a conversation with me. Hell, all you need to do is walk the streets of San Fran or take the train to see how closed off everyone is. Heads down, headphones on, Kindle/iPhone in hand, no eye contact. The rare occasion when a woman not only sits next to me on the train, but strikes up a conversation, still makes me jump in surprise.

Remember every "taken" woman was single once...

Not really. Most of them jump right from one boyfriend to the next. The only women I know who are single, are so by choice.

Phineas' profile mentions that he's a software engineer. Neither the male or female members of either profession are known for their natural flamboyance or wild amatory exploits. Love and attraction aren't scientific and logical. Keep that in mind.

You may want to spend some time in California, and then retract that statement. Everyone out here is an engineer or nerd of some variety, and the nerds are the kinkiest and poly-est of the bunch. Every TMF gathering I go to is nothing but computer geeks - male AND female. Our conversations tend to devolve into arguments over Python or something.

I went on a date tonight. (Thank you, OKCupid. Without you, I'd be useless.) By the end, I realized just how insane this entire process is.

The last date I had, the woman refused to go out with me a second time because I wasn't into her hobbies - she was an extreme sports enthusiast and, even though I was willing to engage in said sports with her, she said that she needed someone who already shared her interests. Tonight, I went out with a different woman. We did some of the same things, so I was sure to mention this. She replied that she wanted a man who was his own person, and didn't feel the need to do everything with her.

I threw my hands in the air.

So, yes. I think giving up is a perfectly valid thing to do. And I kind of resent the notion that anyone who has trouble meeting women, has trouble because they're a socially inept retard who lives in front of their computer. Mom's basement optional.

Unless, of course, I'm just an asshole and all of my friends are liars. Somehow, I don't think that's the case, either.
 
You may want to spend some time in California, and then retract that statement. Everyone out here is an engineer or nerd of some variety, and the nerds are the kinkiest and poly-est of the bunch. Every TMF gathering I go to is nothing but computer geeks - male AND female. Our conversations tend to devolve into arguments over Python or something.

Wait wait, you live in San Jose. That's like saying everyone in California is an asshole because someone might live in LA :p I live over in Fresno and people think engineers are the guys who drive trains. Sadly.

I went on a date tonight. (Thank you, OKCupid. Without you, I'd be useless.) By the end, I realized just how insane this entire process is.

The last date I had, the woman refused to go out with me a second time because I wasn't into her hobbies - she was an extreme sports enthusiast and, even though I was willing to engage in said sports with her, she said that she needed someone who already shared her interests. Tonight, I went out with a different woman. We did some of the same things, so I was sure to mention this. She replied that she wanted a man who was his own person, and didn't feel the need to do everything with her.

I threw my hands in the air.

I think you may be hitting upon a problem that might actually arise because of easy dating. If a person isn't perfect, it seems like they can just wait until tomorrow for a new try (in fact, I bet for every girl you go out with, you passed over a dozen other profiles). In all honesty, I'm not exactly sure if I can justify saying that people shouldn't be like that. Why settle when you don't need to? Sure at some point you need to actually settle down, but I bet it's like how people at casinos keep putting that last $20 bill in thinking "I'm about to hit the jackpot!", you can't live with the "what if" of not continuing on.

So, yes. I think giving up is a perfectly valid thing to do. And I kind of resent the notion that anyone who has trouble meeting women, has trouble because they're a socially inept retard who lives in front of their computer. Mom's basement optional.

Unless, of course, I'm just an asshole and all of my friends are liars. Somehow, I don't think that's the case, either.

Oddly enough, it seems like when it's women who are having trouble meeting guys, it's always the pool of guys being horrible that is at fault. When it's a guy who can't find a girl, as you said, it's assumed the persons socially inept. Odd.
 
You may want to spend some time in California, and then retract that statement. Everyone out here is an engineer or nerd of some variety, and the nerds are the kinkiest and poly-est of the bunch. Every TMF gathering I go to is nothing but computer geeks - male AND female. Our conversations tend to devolve into arguments over Python or something.

So, yes. I think giving up is a perfectly valid thing to do. And I kind of resent the notion that anyone who has trouble meeting women, has trouble because they're a socially inept retard who lives in front of their computer. Mom's basement optional.

Unless, of course, I'm just an asshole and all of my friends are liars. Somehow, I don't think that's the case, either.

LOL, this is actually very funny. I'm FROM the SF Bay Area. My childhood best friend (who is currently going through a sex change-F to M, otherwise completely vanilla) is the child of the founder of a major software firm. I've been to 6 NESTs and well over 100 other fetish events in England, Germany, Canada, the USA, and Jamaica and you are quite correct- there is always an overwhelming majority of computer programmers, etc. in attendance. So I do know whereof I speak when it comes to kinky geeks!

I wouldn't say that certain professions produce "socially inept retards who live in front of their computers"- that's a bit of an extreme comment. However, the sort of person who is drawn to those professions is less likely to be as naturally outgoing, or flamboyant, if you will, as someone whose profession is entirely based on face to face human interaction. It takes a certain type of mind to be at a computer, or bent over a microscope, all day. Not everyone could, or would want to, do it. This isn't meant as a criticism, just an observation.

Computer-savvy folk are not necessarily kinkier than other people, IMHO. It just makes sense that since all things fetish are set up, researched, organized, etc. via the Internet these days, the majority of people who attend these events will be into computers.

Also, I've met plenty of folk who are far kinkier and poly-er than I (well, ANYONE's going to be more poly than I am) but in actual practice they haven't done much kink, or ever been in a poly relationship. It doesn't matter HOW kinky someone says they are, if they haven't got somebody to be kinky with. Unfortunately the Internet lends itself very easily to collecting fetishes (or inventing them- have a look at Fetlife, lol) without the necessity of putting theory into practice with a live human being.

Lastly, "giving up", to get this thread back on topic- I would say never "give up", but as others in this thread have said, don't be desperate. Women can smell desperation, and we don't like it. I didn't exacly give up on relationships before I met hubby, but I had decided to enjoy being single, and not to worry about finding Mr. Right, as a New Year's resolution. We met 5 days after my resolution, completely randomly. So for your comment about people not really being single and just hopping from relationship to relationship- well, I was happily single for all of 5 days, and during those 5 days, got phone numbers from about 7 guys that I thought were nice. So even though it was a short time, I was HONESTLY single! So you just never know.
 
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Ok I haven't read all the comments, but I am all up for a guide of where to find casual tickle partners. lol
 
Computer-savvy folk are not necessarily kinkier than other people, IMHO. It just makes sense that since all things fetish are set up, researched, organized, etc. via the Internet these days, the majority of people who attend these events will be into computers.

I think there is your selection bias. Most people have no idea how to use the internet or know how to explore so they never even find out that a lot of these fetishes exist. I also love your statement about these fetishes that are made up. At one point I was under the impression that people really did try and love all the little fetishes they said they had until I started talking to more people who would admit that they've never come close to even trying their said fetish. Kinda humorous to me. Anyhow, like I was saying, I think you do have a huge selection bias when you look at gatherings setup over the internet.

Then again, oddly enough, almost no one I've noticed on this forum has a computer science/engineering background (in numbers relative to the size of the population here).

Psycho said:
Ok I haven't read all the comments, but I am all up for a guide of where to find casual tickle partners. lol

Step 1: Pick a handle that isn't "Psycho"
Step 2: Read comments
 
LOL. I can't give up my name. I have been here since 2002. I have less posts now than many who joined last year. Well, a lot of them probably got deleted in the purging of the self referential thread. lol
 
Personally I have found the best place to find ladies that are into being tickled is networking sites such as yearbook and facebook....not only have i chatted online to them but have met quite a few in person....being in Australia it was all but impossible to meet anyone on here :(
I meet new ladies (online) everyday :)
 
lol ... meeting on FB is as random as meeting in a supermarket. "hey there ... nice melons." :D
 
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