Ladies, is there something sinister about M/F tickling videos?

[mikeytheman921]

It seems the typical M/F video is a twenty-something young woman barely out of college, getting tickled by a fat middle-aged dude.

I usually watch F/F or F/M, which are generally harmless IMO. But every now and then i watch an M/F clip. And it seems creepy as fuck. Especially when the 'Ler gets at the girl's thighs and inside her legs. I imagine most of these young women hate every minute of being tickled by a guy old enough to be her uncle.

Maybe i just have more of a social conscience now than i did in my 20s. But something just doesn't feel right about it. Is there something inherently sinister about M/F content? I'd be especially curious to hear from the women on the TMF, how you feel about the M/F tickle vids out there?

 

[moose]

I don't really watch much videos but never been creeped out by the lers in videos sometimes I feel sorry for the lee if it looks like its really torture for them

 

[ISUmark]

A part of me likes that aspect of M/F more then F/F. Even though all parties consent it seems slightly more "non-con" from a fantasy standpoint. Because my head canon makes it seem like the woman clearly doesn't want to be tickled by this middle aged dude.

 

[turtleboy]

It seems the typical M/F video is a twenty-something young woman barely out of college, getting tickled by a fat middle-aged dude.

I usually watch F/F or F/M, which are generally harmless IMO. But every now and then i watch an M/F clip. And it seems creepy as fuck. Especially when the 'Ler gets at the girl's thighs and inside her legs. I imagine most of these young women hate every minute of being tickled by a guy old enough to be her uncle.

Maybe i just have more of a social conscience now than i did in my 20s. But something just doesn't feel right about it. Is there something inherently sinister about M/F content? I'd be especially curious to hear from the women on the TMF, how you feel about the M/F tickle vids out there?

How is it any different to any other fetish or porn clip featuring older males and younger females? You imagine that the women in question must hate it, but you don't know them and so it probably has more to do with your own perception of how things should be than anything else. As a middle-aged guy shooting with models of all ages, it's never been an issue in my own experience - although it's also worth noting that many of the youngest models are actually in their twenties and quite experienced, not actually the 18-19 y/o's fresh out of school that you may think they are. Bearing in mind that models are always there of their own free will and often willingly return to shoot with the same people, it generally has a lot more to do with individual experience, personality and behaviour on the shoot than it does age. A model will generally be far more comfortable getting tickled by a 50+ year old guy who behaves professionally than by a 20 year old creep who likes all her instagram pics and can't contain his own excitement at being in a room with her.

A lot of the models I work with describe bad or creepy experiences on other shoots. These can be on any type of shoot but they are overwhelmingly in the domain of amateur or first time photographers/videographers, and they involve everything from photographers who are socially awkward or don't speak at all, to guys who walk around with obvious boners, push levels, make creepy suggestions and sometimes even get naked for no apparent reason (this is an amazingly common occurence on hobbyist/amateur photoshoots) Age doesn't really factor into this as I hear the same accounts of both young and older photographers.

 

[chicago]

IRL I enjoy m/f and f/f but I stick to watching f/f videos mostly because I'm not tryna have my skin crawl watching Skelyrata manhandle some poor female or JWties goofy ass tickle for 2 seconds and then get his wrinkledick sucked for the rest of the video.

 

[BeautifullyBNT]

Yeah, it can be creepy. The masked guys creep the hell out of me. If it's m/f, I like the tickler to be around the same age as the lee. But I almost always stick with f/f these days.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

IRL I enjoy m/f and f/f but I stick to watching f/f videos mostly because I'm not tryna have my skin crawl watching Skelyrata manhandle some poor female or JWties goofy ass tickle for 2 seconds and then get his wrinkledick sucked for the rest of the video.

Damn boss, bodied 'em.

 

[turtleboy]

IRL I enjoy m/f and f/f but I stick to watching f/f videos mostly because I'm not tryna have my skin crawl watching Skelyrata manhandle some poor female or JWties goofy ass tickle for 2 seconds and then get his wrinkledick sucked for the rest of the video.

Creepy as you may find it, that 'poor female' probably isn't all that bothered since she's there of her own free will

 

[chicago]

Creepy as you may find it, that 'poor female' probably isn't all that bothered since she's there of her own free will

Obviously lol Doesn't change how I perceive it which was what the OP was asking. Feel free to buy those vids if you want tho

 

[anosora11]

It seems the typical M/F video is a twenty-something young woman barely out of college, getting tickled by a fat middle-aged dude.

I usually watch F/F or F/M, which are generally harmless IMO. But every now and then i watch an M/F clip. And it seems creepy as fuck. Especially when the 'Ler gets at the girl's thighs and inside her legs. I imagine most of these young women hate every minute of being tickled by a guy old enough to be her uncle.

Maybe i just have more of a social conscience now than i did in my 20s. But something just doesn't feel right about it. Is there something inherently sinister about M/F content? I'd be especially curious to hear from the women on the TMF, how you feel about the M/F tickle vids out there?

THIS is exactly the reason I HATE M/F tbh...
seeing a creepy old nasty Ler makes me wanna puke and I always wonder how much money they gave to the lee....
and sometimes it clearly IS non-consensual... I dont understand why people here are trying to defend those trash beta men....

 

[anosora11]

Creepy as you may find it, that 'poor female' probably isn't all that bothered since she's there of her own free will

thats very dumb to say like that tbh.
its clear that trash like skylerata is not always consensual.
and JWties even harmed some lees by having their bumping their heads against the wall.

 

[turtleboy]

Obviously lol Doesn't change how I perceive it which was what the OP was asking. Feel free to buy those vids if you want tho

I get that. I don't buy tickling clips either tbh but the people who buy from the producers you mentioned probably do like them. My point is that the observations of the OP have more to do with the preconceptions of those watching, than of those taking part. The models themselves may have a very different opinion.

 

[turtleboy]

thats very dumb to say like that tbh.
its clear that trash like skylerata is not always consensual.
and JWties even harmed some lees by having their bumping their heads against the wall.

Are you suggesting that these guys abducted women or somehow forced them to take part in clips?

Do you have some evidence for this?

 

[SxyFetishGirl]

Creepy as you may find it, that 'poor female' probably isn't all that bothered since she's there of her own free will

A lot of women do things in this industry for money that they don't want to do

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[OmahaTickler]

all personal preference, but----I always have gravitated toward F-F, as the M-F clips do, indeed, have a more predatory vibe somehow, regardless of age differences or whatnot. The tickler's body language and verbal language matter, and with female ticklers, it seems more about "I'm going to drive you mad with ticklish torments," whereas with the males, I always get the sense that he's thinking about her in terms of "boy, would I love to **** her." And that's perfectly OK if you view tickling merely as foreplay, of course.

 

[turtleboy]

A lot of women do things in this industry for money that they don't want to do

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That's certainly true but then a lot of people also do shitty office jobs that they don't really want to. It doesn't mean that they 'hate' them or that their forced or coerced into it however, which is something different and very specific. Just because people watch a model in a video and decide for themselves that she doesn't really want to be there, it doesn't make it true. She made the decision to do the shoot and it's wrong to assume (without evidence) that she's not ok with it, particularly if she's returned to shoot with the same person again. It's also weird that people assume models can't make their own decisions and must have been forced into it. People who campaign against porn frequently make the accusation that the actresses are forced into the industry (usually by male partners) against their will, when in reality it is a tough, competitive industry and models who don't want to be there won't get a foot in the door. Assumptions are often just that.

To be clear, I'm not saying that bad experiences don't ever happen - I personally know models who have been drugged and sexually assaulted on glamour shoots, not to mention the more low-level innappropriate behaviour that sometimes goes on with certain photographers or producers. Assuming that they happen just because the guy is 'fat' or 'old' however, betrays a certain amount of prejudice I think.

 

[Libertine]

No-one's going to film themselves committing a crime, and then try to sell the footage online.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

No-one's going to film themselves committing a crime, and then try to sell the footage online.

I understand what you're getting at, but "College Soles" did exactly that.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/04/23/masturbating-acting-teacher-gets-max-jail-time/

https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/...dmits-to-lewd-conduct-with-underage-students/

http://www.startribune.com/fourth-s...-who-lured-girls-to-acting-classes/469790063/

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/new-genre-of-secret-cum-t159895.html

He had videos of himself pretending to pour coconut oil on womens feet when he was actually jizzing on them, he played it off as it being a roleplay-type thing but it was obvious as fuck that they legitimately had no idea what was happening. additionally, when his store was up, he had a few women on there who I'm 99.99% positive weren't of legal age on there. Considering what he was arrested for, I'd be surprised if everyone he sold content of was over 18 years old.

 

[indivision]

I haven't bought videos in a long time, but I typically don't have a problem with m/f. I often like opposite sex tickling. I used to buy Tickle Central's bedspread videos for that reason. Also, I tend to like bed scenes, but I digress. Of course, with TC's bedspread videos, I did sometimes feel like he wasn't as effective at tickling the girls as some of the other girls were. A few times I watched him tickle a girl, and he did a good job, but when one of the other girls tickled the same girl, she had her in hysterics.

I think you just have to remember that, in this videos, having two models in the video means having to pay two models. Whereas, if a producer does an m/f video, and he tickles the model himself, he only has to pay one model.

I have to say, I have noticed an age difference between the ler and lee in m/f videos, and it usually doesn't bother me. I'm just being honest there. If I thought the girl was underaged, it would bother me, but I was never given that impression. Years ago, Tickle Central released a video featuring a girl, and the description said that she had "just turned 18 on the day they filmed the video." I thought it was weird that he said that, but it really didn't occupy my thoughts for too long.


On the flip side, I sometimes wish these producers would do more f/m videos of their girls tickling them. For some reason, f/m situations where the ler is a little bit younger than her lee are exciting for me.

 

[The Internet]

I love the dynamic between an older man tickling a younger woman and always did, going back as long as I can remember. I tend towards clips with that dynamic, though I also like m/f tickling where they are close in age, as well as f/f clips. In f/f clips, its the same thing: I love the dynamic between an older woman tickling a younger one, but close in age is hot as well, it all depends on what I'm in the mood for. Generally, though, I prefer older/younger, and m/f clips.

To be honest, other than Absolutely Tickled and SoCal, I'm not often impressed with the younger guys' techniques, I don't know quite why that is. I feel like the older ticklers (male and female) sometimes "relish" tickling the model, and that tickle-lust can be felt in the video.

I will say THIS about Skeylerata: He took one of the best tickle models ever - Cecelia/Celia from Tickle Central - and i'm postive drove her away from modeling. He started using ice on her, which she clearly had not agreed to, and was thoroughly not enjoying. In all of the Tickle Central clips, she is such a delightful ticklee, obviously enjoying herself, and had a beautiful rapport with Brad. (who's "older", incidentally). So when she next popped up in the Skeylerata video, at first her normal, perky self.....and then gradually descending into palpable fear, I wanted to jump into the screen and beat the piss out of him, and rescue her from the bondage. I've never been so angry watching a video, nothing even comes close. And she was never seen again (in a video. I'm assuming Skeylerata let her go, eventually!).

But no, I don't find it inherently creepy watching an older man tickle, especially when I see plenty of couples with wide age gaps, including my ex who almost exclusively dates much, much older men. Hawt! lol.

 

[The Internet]

I understand what you're getting at, but "College Soles" did exactly that.

https://www.twincities.com/2018/04/23/masturbating-acting-teacher-gets-max-jail-time/

https://www.twincities.com/2018/03/...dmits-to-lewd-conduct-with-underage-students/

http://www.startribune.com/fourth-s...-who-lured-girls-to-acting-classes/469790063/

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/themousepad/new-genre-of-secret-cum-t159895.html

He had videos of himself pretending to pour coconut oil on womens feet when he was actually jizzing on them, he played it off as it being a roleplay-type thing but it was obvious as fuck that they legitimately had no idea what was happening. additionally, when his store was up, he had a few women on there who I'm 99.99% positive weren't of legal age on there. Considering what he was arrested for, I'd be surprised if everyone he sold content of was over 18 years old.

THAT IS FUCKING DISGUSTING. Holy fuck.

Thanks for posting this, Comfort Eagle. Never bought any of his clips, thank God. What a lowlife.

 

[delicatetouch]

To be clear that mutt that was arrested was 31 far from a creepy middle age fat man. Closer to a creepy millennial.

 

[Sharkiegirl]

Damn. This is not how I expected this to go conversationally. As the younger girl for years of sessioning, a lot of those “fat, creepy, old dudes” were not creepy at all. Most of my favorite sessions happened with older guys. 99% of the time, they were polite, patient, and very kind and understanding of limits etc. It’s many of the younger guys that would push for sexual activity I was clear I didn’t want in the type of session we were having. I can’t say that there aren’t “creepy old dudes” in the tickling/clip production community, I’m sure there are, but watching clips with the older guy/younger girl dynamic does not by any means make my skin crawl. (At least as a female who has played quite a bit with all age ranges of men)

 

[Wolf]

To be clear that mutt that was arrested was 31 far from a creepy middle age fat man. Closer to a creepy millennial.

"Creepy" doesn't even come close. He's a child molester. I'm not even sure his age is relevant.

Personally, when it comes to m/f videos, the old man / young woman thing isn't my cup of Earl Grey, but that's just me. I like some chemistry, and aside from the aforementioned Absolutely Tickled, I don't see a lot in m/f these days, especially with large age differences.

 

[anosora11]

I love the dynamic between an older man tickling a younger woman and always did, going back as long as I can remember. I tend towards clips with that dynamic, though I also like m/f tickling where they are close in age, as well as f/f clips. In f/f clips, its the same thing: I love the dynamic between an older woman tickling a younger one, but close in age is hot as well, it all depends on what I'm in the mood for. Generally, though, I prefer older/younger, and m/f clips.

To be honest, other than Absolutely Tickled and SoCal, I'm not often impressed with the younger guys' techniques, I don't know quite why that is. I feel like the older ticklers (male and female) sometimes "relish" tickling the model, and that tickle-lust can be felt in the video.

I will say THIS about Skeylerata: He took one of the best tickle models ever - Cecelia/Celia from Tickle Central - and i'm postive drove her away from modeling. He started using ice on her, which she clearly had not agreed to, and was thoroughly not enjoying. In all of the Tickle Central clips, she is such a delightful ticklee, obviously enjoying herself, and had a beautiful rapport with Brad. (who's "older", incidentally). So when she next popped up in the Skeylerata video, at first her normal, perky self.....and then gradually descending into palpable fear, I wanted to jump into the screen and beat the piss out of him, and rescue her from the bondage. I've never been so angry watching a video, nothing even comes close. And she was never seen again (in a video. I'm assuming Skeylerata let her go, eventually!).

But no, I don't find it inherently creepy watching an older man tickle, especially when I see plenty of couples with wide age gaps, including my ex who almost exclusively dates much, much older men. Hawt! lol.

I know everyone has their own taste but sorry I just HAVE to say this:

"older men and younger women"? That is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING
your comment almost made me puke