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Michael Jackson- Guilty or innocent?

Armpit_licker

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This thread is being started because I do not want to get into it in the "TICKLISH CELEBS" forum.. This started when someone posted about MJ being tickled and a few others(including me) answered with "ewww". Clearly some people( Marauder being one) see's nothing wrong with posting info on MJ and it's one of those "if you don't like it, don't open the thread" type of deals.

Sorry, but I think people have every right to say "ewww". Like I said in that thread, can we get some info if Charlie Manson has ticklish feet too? One is a killer, one molest little kids. So when I say "ewww" I think I have every right in the world too. The guy is a sick freak of nature who molest kids and plays with babies over a high railing. Fuck this guy. I can't believe he still gets support.

Here is another article on him, a recent one.


Report: Michael Jackson Paid Another Accuser

* Allegedly Paid $2 Million To Son Of Neverland Employee

Sep 2, 2004 5:28 pm US/Eastern
LOS ANGELES (AP) Michael Jackson allegedly paid $2 million to the son of an employee at his Neverland Ranch in 1990 to stave off an accusation of child molestation, according to a broadcast report.

The television news magazine did not disclose its source for information about the reported payment, which was the subject of a segment to be broadcast Friday night. In that segment, retired Santa Barbara County Sheriff Jim Thomas, now an NBC news analyst, said his office investigated Jackson in 1993 in connection with one boy's claim and came upon the second accusation.

The first boy reportedly was paid $15 million to $20 million by Jackson to avoid charges he thought would damage his career even if proved untrue.

Jackson has denied ever harming any child and is currently fighting charges he molested a boy in 2003.

Jackson's lawyer, Thomas Mesereau Jr., did not immediately return a call Thursday from The Associated Press. Lawyers in the case are under a gag order.

Thomas told "Dateline," "We always believed there were eight to 10 other children out there."

But during interviews, he said, "Many of them said that they had spent time with Michael Jackson. They had spent time in his bedroom, but that nothing had happened. Some wouldn't talk to us at all."

Thomas told the AP the employee's son did not file charges and didn't want to testify "because he was afraid his friends would think he was homosexual."

Thomas has previously discussed the boy's claim, but said he wasn't sure until the Dateline report that Jackson had paid the boy $2 million.

"Dateline" said the settlement contained a clause barring it from being discussed publicly.

Thomas said the 12-year-old accused Jackson of "fondling him through his clothes," which could be the basis of misdemeanor charges. No charges were ever lodged.

Both boys who accused Jackson in the 1990s are now in their 20s and are not expected to testify in the current case.

Jackson, 45, has pleaded not guilty to committing a lewd act upon a child, administering an intoxicating agent and conspiring to commit child abduction, false imprisonment and extortion. His trial is set to start Jan. 31."

Does anyone else find it a little gross that people actually care if this guy is ticklish or is it just me?
 
Innocent until proven guilty. Let a jury of his peers decide if he is guilty or not. It's not up to us.

As for what happened/is happening in the Ticklish Celebrities forum, Marauder was in the right. It states very cleary in the thread title that it relates to Michael Jackson. If that does not interest you, do not click the link. Simple enough. Some people may be interested though, and have a right to express or seek that information without being flamed for it.

Mimi
 
Mimi said:
Innocent until proven guilty. Let a jury of his peers decide if he is guilty or not. It's not up to us.

As for what happened/is happening in the Ticklish Celebrities forum, Marauder was in the right. It states very cleary in the thread title that it relates to Michael Jackson. If that does not interest you, do not click the link. Simple enough. Some people may be interested though, and have a right to express or seek that information without being flamed for it.

Mimi

No, it's not up to us. However, we can still state if we think he is guilty or not.

Also I do not consider a "ewww" flaming. So what you are saying is if he is found guilty then we have a right to say "ewww" but not now? If someone cares remotely if this sick puppy who molest kids is ticklish then they are sick also.
 
IF he is found guilty, then it would likely be a different story. But he hasn't been yet, and until he is, we have to presume his innocense. That's just America for ya. 😀

Mimi
 
Is that true though Mimi?.............

......having watched a lot of coverage of the Kobi Bryant, Lacey Peterson and Jacko cases on American T.V. I am not so sure its true to say you are "innocent untill proved guilty" in the U.S.

The U.S. media seem to run their own independant kangeroo courts on these cases. In the U.K. this kind of open discussion of the facts of a case even before it has gone to trial is not allowed.Certainly no pundits are allowed to go on prime time T.V. and give their opinion as to wether the accused is guilty or innocent or run their own investigation in to the case once charges have been brought.

U.K. cases are fully reported on the media once they get to court but its all very straight forward recounting of the days events in court.Once charges have been brought against a suspect by the Crown Prosecution service, reporting is very restricted.

I think this is much better than "trial by news anchorman" which is what you seem to get in the states.
 
Couldnt agree with you more Mate. The trial thing on "news" programs really took a turn for the worse when all that OJ garbage happened....


Hasnt been much good about it since..

Ray
 
I don't know if MJ is guilty or not. I know I still buy his music, I grew up with it and wanted it on CD. Doesn't mean i want the man at my child's next birthday party. I think he's a deeply bent and disturbed musical genius, period.

And you have every right to dislike him and be disgusted by him. Even if he didn't molest anyone, he's still kinda...odd. That's enough for many people. What you don't have the right to do is bring other people down in a rude way for liking something you don't. As a preschool teacher and parent I've had to teach this over and over: use your words nicely.

"I don't care for MJ because..." = Cool, mature, expressing an opinion.

"Ewwww"= what grade are you in?

Nothing wrong with telling how you feel (although it IS easier to leave a post alone if the topic squicks you) but there are mellow ways to do it 🙂

Bella
 
Give up damnit. Leave MJ alone. I'm sick of people just lurking to accuse celebrities so they can make a quick buck ( oh don't deny it, that's just what they want ). I like MJ, I grew up with his music, he was my idol ( granted, I think he went too far with his plastic surgery 🙄 ) but .... LEAVE THE GUY ALONE DAMNIT 😡 . I'm ready to bet he never did any of the things he is accused of.
 
I dont think we know the half of it.........

......I think in years to come the truth will out about MJ,s involvement or rather, lack of involvement, in creating the music for his best selling albums. I am very skeptical about just how responsible he was for those great albums.

I have never heard Jacko utter a single word about how those albums got made, what the process was, how the songs evolved, what was written down, what ideas jacko had about arrangements and orchestration, instrumentation, choice of key and so on.

The answer is easy, HE DOES NOT HAVE A BLOODY CLUE!!!

Who DOES have a clue?.......a man called..........Q.
 
Michael Jackson is GUILTY

.....of being the best darn singer/dancer/songwriter since Steve Guttenberg! Talk about a guy that can do it all, gang!
 
Mimi said:
IF he is found guilty, then it would likely be a different story. But he hasn't been yet, and until he is, we have to presume his innocense. That's just America for ya. 😀

Mimi

Actually Meems dear, I think you'll find that's guilty-until-proven-Irish. 😀
 
If I was gay and enjoyed tickling men, Jacko would be the last guy I'd want to try my hand on. I'd be too afraid of something coming off in it.

(Oo-er.)
 
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