Tickle tortured until she begs for mercy that never comes! M/F (nudity)

[ticklevids]

please...

As much of a ticklefreak as I am, there's something genuinely disturbing about very young women who truly seem in agony and appear to really want the ordeal to stop (even if breaks are provided). I think there's an unspoken rule on here that we're not to acknowledge these elements, but it's these kinds of videos that give me a sour feeling when surfing for more legit tickle thrills.

Mike
ps - and there are a few on www.footparadise.com made in the usa, by some sadistic nut who has clearly trapped would-be actresses under very false pretenses.

if you think that shit by footparadise is real, then I have a bridge to sell you... very cheap.

 

[tkl-pen]

Re: Fuck You clip
It was amazing to see so many people pissed off about this clip on TMF - for me the whole clip was great - tickle torture means just that - if somebody is not interested in it, then they should go elsewhere - that girl wasn't even in proper bondage and could move around like a freshly caught fish on the pier - she was happy and playful as hell in the beginning - then she became verbal when she started to tire of it - but in the end, by the way she was talking to the producer, she wasn't even angry about it - she knew what it was before she allowed herself to be tied to the bed - and the girl who was filmed right after this one, according to the review on the clip, was there to watch the first one get tickled - and she had no problem being tied down and tickled by the same tickler either - so I think it was much ado about nothing - and I wish the producer success and hope to see more clips and even full-length videos like this in the future.

Re: Mercy Clip
I don't personally care for this clip - I don't see much value in it with the ticklee clad in a bikini and free to move around - but again, I am quite sure that the girl involved had no problem with it - as for begging for mercy, how many ticklees don't scream for it to stop.

Re: Complainers and Critics of This Producer
How come I don't see anything from you regarding Oksana Tickle Tortured or Mikiko Tickle Tortured by two other producers - both women are tied to table systems - one in similar bondage to the Fuck-You clip and the other fully immobilized - I'm sure if I ordered the full clips for these there would be some resistance, screaming and pleading, too.

Enough is enough already - if you don't like tickle torture clips, then watch the things you do like - and please let those of us who do like such clips, instead of the feather-duster-on-the-nipple genre, watch what we like.

 

[isabeau]

uh hello am i here???? can anyone see me???? gessh i only asked like a million times why i cant download this clip and a few others have asked as well.

isabeau

 

[Barlow]

uh hello am i here???? can anyone see me???? gessh i only asked like a million times why i cant download this clip and a few others have asked as well.

isabeau

Don't feel bad, Isabeau, it won't work for me, either. And after reading the posts, I am dying to see it.

 

[wendynpeter]

Re: Fuck You clip
for me the whole clip was great - tickle torture means just that - if somebody is not interested in it, then they should go elsewhere - that girl wasn't even in proper bondage and could move around like a freshly caught fish on the pier ...

Given these comments, I'm not surprised in the least that you didn't have any problem with what you saw in the video. All you can say to a clearly nonconsensual act is that the bondage wasn't tight enough? Freshly caught fish? Jesus, man, think about what you said...

As for the Oksana clip, absolutely no comparision whatsoever.

 

[llaugher2001]

I don't blame wendynpeter for not wanting to drop the subject. As I submitted earlier, there's a line in this community between fun consensual tickling -- which can definitely be real tickling -- and cruelty. I believe this clip crosses that line and doesn't belong on "our" site. I would suggest posting it elsewhere, but as I believe the clip to be genuinely cruel I think it should not exist in the first place. Yes, I can get off on this clip, but I saw what it was and deleted it. It's no different for me than when clips with young teens are posted. That's another form of exploitation and that, too, is just wrong.

 

[MÿTicklingStudios]

The clip is down, as is the server it is stored on. It will be put back in its original location as soon as I get the server fixed.

p.s. I just can't help myself from adding... some of you here have made some speculative claims which are totally unacceptable. Shame on you for making such serious accusations based on a movie you have seen, an edited one at that... You really do not have a clue.

I will be responding to the posts in this thread properly in due course when I arrive home. Until then, tickle on~!

 

[isabeau]

The clip is down, as is the server it is stored on. It will be put back in its original location as soon as I get the server fixed.

p.s. I just can't help myself from adding... some of you here have made some speculative claims which are totally unacceptable. Shame on you for making such serious accusations based on a movie you have seen, an edited one at that... You really do not have a clue.

I will be responding to the posts in this thread properly in due course when I arrive home. Until then, tickle on~!

thanks finally someone answered me.

isabeau

 

[MasterTT]

Just... a possibility?

Ok, I know that the producer is not going to like this response to his critics because it might bring into question the validity of the product (and I haven't seen the whole clip so I am not making a value judgments) but just a thought here.... we hear nonconsentual... we hear that this or that is said with horrific intentions... we hear that it is clear these girls are being abused. What about the possibility that there is some ACTING involved. I know this is such a negative concept in the comunity, i mean heck if its a movie about naughty nurses being kidnaped and tickled they better be real nurses. I know everyone is going to say "I can tell the difference" no... no you can't. I know I'm not going to convince you of that but its true... you can't Not always. You can't always tell if Doyle Brunson is bluffing, you can't always tell if a world leader is scared, you can't always tell if a porn star is enjoying herself and you can't always tell if Sean Penn is really sad. You can not. Lots of time you can tell, with bad actors in particular, but not all the time. Now I am not implying that these are academy award candidates, the non ticklish putting on an act of being tickled i am talking more about the inate human desire to please. "I want to do a video of you being tickle tortured" ilicits a tortured reaction. Just one theory on the debate. Personally, I watched the preview and didn't see such intense malice anyway, but I just think we should exaust ALL possible options before resorting to moral, personal, and even criminal accusations and atacks. It might look like a murder, sound like a murder.. heck it might even SEEM like a murder, but before you call the cops on John Carpenter and accuse him of murder you should be sure... and before he is convicted of murder people must be ABSOLUTLY SURE. Remember that this is entertainment for profit.... so what you see is what someone belives you want to see, not always the truth. Not a legitimate theory, just wild speculation, but I thought it was something that should be thought about when people are accusing someone of criminal acts for video clips. I am sure the producer would never point to this fact, because on some level no matter how wrong or subdued some people want it to be real. I promise you his sales are UP not down because of this debate. The idea that in a sea of fakes he is offering the real deal can only help him, explotation of the idea that a contemptable act is being commited to play on the basest of human desires.... thats never happened... on reality tv, the Blair Witch Project, Amityville Horror or the evening news right. Just a thought... lets call it... presumed innocent.

Of course all this makes no sense, because all the producers advertize there clips as "very (but not too very) ticklish girls who sought out this fun expereance and really love being tickled" (reasson 101 Yaqi really does rock all kidding asside) Just one more light to think about, because god knows I woulden't want to be accused of everything I have ever filmed.

 

[newtype]

i hope they will release a preview clip on the FF/F one..

btw, are there any pinoys here? coz the ticklees are filipinas if im not mistaken...

 

[deac95661]

I have to agree. There is a part of tickling where it is no longer fun and this poor soul seems like she has gotten to that point. Makes one think she is in more so than tickling. Torture is one thing and a safe word often allows one to enjoy and still torment. Just the fact she spits and shows serious anger hmmmm, kinda makes you wonder.

 

[isabeau]

the think i'm wondering about is, if you dont like the clip why watch? i mean the title on the thread says tickle tortured until she begs for mercy that never comes. isnt that enough of a hint not to watch if you dont like that sort of thing? now i'm really curious to view it for myself so i can judge.

isabeau

 

[wendynpeter]

the think i'm wondering about is, if you dont like the clip why watch? i mean the title on the thread says tickle tortured until she begs for mercy that never comes. isnt that enough of a hint not to watch if you dont like that sort of thing? now i'm really curious to view it for myself so i can judge.

isabeau

"If you don't like the clip, why watch."

OK,

1. How do you know if you like the clip until you watch?
2. "Mercy that never comes" is not the same thing as "really nonconsensual." We role play "mercy that never comes" all the time. But this video isn't role play.

 

[isabeau]

like i said i have to be able to watch first before i can judge and heck i cant click on the damn thing it wont let me. and i'm not the only one with that problem. thanks for responding wendy

isabeau

 

[wendynpeter]

Isabeau,

I'm not surprised the link's disabled. You really don't see what all the hoopla's about in the sample clip anyway. You have to buy the whole thing for Clips4 in order to see it. Several people from TMF did buy it, watched it once and immediately deleted it from thier hard drive. I was one of those people.

 

[isabeau]

ahh thanks for the heads up wendy. then i wont bother since i dont buy clips. or videos. which is something i wont go into at this time. lets just say im married. lol

isabeau

 

[tkl-pen]

Hi Newtype,
I am not a Filipino but my wife is - I'm not sure that these ticklees are from the Philippines or another Asian country - a lot of young women from such southeast Asian countries as Indonesia and Thailand look much the same - and in the case of Indonesia the language even sounds similar with many of the same words.

 

[tkl-pen]

Hi Wendy and Peter,
I appreciate your concern for this young woman - but you keep insisting that it was nonconsensual - I don't believe for an instant that it was - this ticklee was clearly contracted and paid for the video - and when I made the analogy of the 'fish on the pier' I only meant to say that this ticklee had a great deal of movement available to her - in fact, she could have kicked the tickler with one of her knees several times - and in the end, she wasn't angry at all - she only told the producer in her own language that her wrists were a little sore and to please untie her - would that be the response from a girl who had the 'nonconsensual abuse' you repeatedly mention.

You should also be aware that the laws regarding the sex trade in southeast Asia have changed as a result of guidance from western countries like ours.
I just read about a man who was arrested and charged in one country for a move on a seventeen year old in a sex-trade and bar area - she had gone with him to a restaurant for dinner, accompanied him to a hotel, and then complained when he made sexual overtures to her. Whether she told him that she was twenty, as he claims, or not, I agree with the charges. But I only mention it here to illustrate that the activities of some years ago are no longer acceptable in southeast Asia.

If this young lady was truly abused, and tortured beyond endurance, as you purport, there is no doubt that she could have gone to the police and have appropriate action taken. Furthermore, the details of her experience would spread like wildfire among the young women of the bar scene and sex trade, regardless of the country involved, and the producer would not be able to contract other girls for his filming.

Moreover, if the tickle torture was as severe as you make it out to be, then I would expect to see some physical signs like crying, peeing, even fainting - I am not trying to be crude here. The screaming she does in the video began playfully at the beginning of the clip and does not change in intensity, volume or desperation.

 

[wendynpeter]

Look, you're making more of my argument than there is. I'm not saying that young woman didn't agree to make a video, or to be bound, or even to be tickled. What I AM saying is that there comes a point in the video when she has clearly had enough and wants it to stop immediately. When it doesn't stop, she gets VERY pissed off and spits, curses, screams, etc. It's just friggin' OBVIOUS that it is no longer consensual, that is to say --

(drum roll and fanafare ........) she's changed her fuck-ing mind.

Now how hard is that to figure out? And instead of stopping the scene, as any descent pornographer would, the guy says "fuck you, BITCH!" and keeps going. The description for one of the videos from this producer (it may be for this video, can't recall) says that the ticklee is actually red and bleeding from this guy's fingernails, and he doesn't stop. Am I making my point here? You might as well give up trying to defend this video. It's clearly indefensible.

 

[MÿTicklingStudios]

In silence of the lambs, the guy really did eat people.... I mean you can ACTUALLY see it!

I'm glad you think my clips are original and real, they are. But non consensual, you really have no clue whatsoever. All the girls are referrals, they are my lifeline of models. They know its going to be hard. but they also know that no harm will come to them. They are treated well and paid well.

I will respond to your speculative statements properly when I return home. But for now, your statements make me laugh and kind of angry at the same time as you are throwing criminal acts into it which is going too damn far.

In every shoot there are at least 2 other girls watching the ticklee get tickled, when the f**k you girl is cursing her friends are also laughing at her. She is cursing out of frustration more than anything else! LOL. Drama queen springs to mind.... I would suggest you do not watch anything with a rating of more than a PG, as you may become offended at what you see.

Look, you're making more of my argument than there is. I'm not saying that young woman didn't agree to make a video, or to be bound, or even to be tickled. What I AM saying is that there comes a point in the video when she has clearly had enough and wants it to stop immediately. When it doesn't stop, she gets VERY pissed off and spits, curses, screams, etc. It's just friggin' OBVIOUS that it is no longer consensual, that is --

(drum roll ........) she's changed her fucking mind. How how hard is that to figure out. And instead of stopping the scene, as any descent pornographer would, the guy says "fuck you, BITCH!" and keeps going. Now, the description for one of the videos from this producer (it may be for this video, can't recall) says that the ticklee is actually red and bleeding from this guy's fingernails, and he doesn't stop. Am I making my point here? YOu might as well give up trying to defend this video. It's clearly indefensible.

 

[ticklevids]

first rule of biz....

The clip is down, as is the server it is stored on. It will be put back in its original location as soon as I get the server fixed.

p.s. I just can't help myself from adding... some of you here have made some speculative claims which are totally unacceptable. Shame on you for making such serious accusations based on a movie you have seen, an edited one at that... You really do not have a clue.

I will be responding to the posts in this thread properly in due course when I arrive home. Until then, tickle on~!

Stop directly responding to the criticism! It only makes it worse. Just make your products and let the numbers tell you whether it's a success or not. All these people have their opinions and you will NOT be able to change them. I've never seen such hotly contested ideals unless you compare it to a debate on politics or religion. Really, everyone needs to listen a little more and preach a little less. But as we all know, that will never happen.

Just do your thing...

 

[MÿTicklingStudios]

I have been in business on the Internet for over 5 years. I do respond to criticism, as I do all feedback. It improves my work and means I can deliver a better product.

I will continue to do my own thing, but at the same time I will work into my sessions all the feedback I get from you guys and gals. If that feedback is viable.

I will say though, if I took wendypeter's feedback on board, the moment they laugh and say "stoooop!" the session would end. Duh... I don't think that would work now would it...

Stop directly responding to the criticism! It only makes it worse. Just make your products and let the numbers tell you whether it's a success or not. All these people have their opinions and you will NOT be able to change them. I've never seen such hotly contested ideals unless you compare it to a debate on politics or religion. Really, everyone needs to listen a little more and preach a little less. But as we all know, that will never happen.

Just do your thing...

 

[ticklevids]

you'll soon learn...

I have been in business on the Internet for over 5 years. I do respond to criticism, as I do all feedback. It improves my work and means I can deliver a better product.

I will continue to do my own thing, but at the same time I will work into my sessions all the feedback I get from you guys and gals. If that feedback is viable.

I will say though, if I took wendypeter's feedback on board, the moment they laugh and say "stoooop!" the session would end. Duh... I don't think that would work now would it...

that inserting yourself in these firestorms does nothing to improve your product.

 

[isabeau]

sighs i'll try one last time and this is it. is the link working now? because its not on my computer. maybe its my computer however i read where others are experiencing the same problem. thanks for reading this

isabeau

 

[wendynpeter]

I will say though, if I took wendypeter's feedback on board, the moment they laugh and say "stoooop!" the session would end. Duh... I don't think that would work now would it...

Look, there's a huge difference between laughing and saying stop and having a complete meltdown that snaps everyone's buzz (except the sadists).

I've participated in the BDSM scene for years, and I know the difference between "Stop (I'm loving this)" and "Stop (as in "Red," as in right now or we're going to have a problem)." I have been part of hundreds of scenes and witnessed hundreds more. If you go to some of the BDSM sites online, you can see very extreme scenes that are obviously very painful. You can see submissives scream, cry, etc. What you won't see is someone ignore a submissive who's safewording.

All I can say is that no matter what you tell a submissive before a scene starts, or what she consents to before the fact, when you are in the moment and she safewords, you stop. Period. Maybe it's the fact that there are no edits and I still didn't hear or see anyone "check in" with her or confirm in any way that she wanted to go forward. What I DID hear was someone say "You want me to stop? Fuck you, BITCH." I'm not going apologize that that bothered me.