I don't think one movie, which I have not heard about anywhere else except through this thread and links to interviews in this thread, has the power to do much unless a person gives it that power. Like I really think it's gonna be an under the radar film. I could be wrong, but like I said, haven't heard anything about this in the vanilla world. To think everyone is going to see you as a creep based on some movie is pretty paranoid.
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"My Strange Addiction" and "Taboo" pretty much made everyone featured look like freaks, even the people who were making stuff up just to get on TV. That was the point. You're taking it personally because, understandably, it feels like a personal attack.
99% of the time, I don't judge people for their fetishes, but I also don't judge so-called "vanillas" for being taken aback when they're first confronted with something that's very different, especially if it's something far removed from what most people think of as sexual contact. Like, when Nikki Glaser did her Foot Fetish segment, and was pretty game about the whole thing; she was just amazed when the guy was mooning over her feet, and said something to the effect of, "Would you even notice if I just, popped out a tit right now?" She wasn't being mean (as I took it)...she was kind of amazed, because it wasn't that feet were part of intercourse, it's that they took the place of it. The less your fetish has to do with an actual human being, the more a human being is going to wonder if they're even an important part of it...you know? "Is he turned on by me wearing the catwoman mask, or am I just the manneqiun to hold the catwoman mask?"
And if someone at a fetish club is judging you, they're a fucking hypocrite.
Then they're not vanilla, are they?
I'm happy to put my hands up and admit I'm butt hurt. It's a royal kick in the backside, folks don't have the right to mess with my fetish. You're absolutely right its personal. Its not very nice when someone just takes the liberty to out my fetish for their own personal gain, and it directly effects my sex life as a consequence. Everyone's mileage will of course vary, the fall out from the inflatable fetish films was that now those are the assumed idea of what the fetish is about to those outside. You nailed it, clubs are hypocritical, but its their club to run. Some decided the inflatable fetish no longer fit with the genre of the event and those doors closed to me. Chicago is more than justified to call me paranoid, the tickle scene in the UK is just emerging from years of lurking. I really hope there aren't any lasting repercussions in my tickling life, but I wouldn't be surprised.
You seem to be giving a couple of TV shows (concerning one fetish) and a documentary (involving a totally different one) a whole lot more influence than they deserve. I can't speak to your inflatable fetish, since I don't have a common frame of reference; but as I said, the farther something is from involving another human being, the harder it might be for another human being to see their part in it, you know? How could the shows have portrayed that to your average person without their thinking it was unusual?
The Tickled documentary only uses the whole competitive tickling thing as the lead-in to the story that the filmmakers ended up following. Lots of documentaries do that, like The Overnighters; that started out about overcrowding in North Dakota during the oil boom, and ended up being something very different.
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If anything it seems like between JoB's bizarre "defense" against the movie that it seems to paint actual fetish people in a much better light than the creepers the movie is about. Keep in mind that the guys actually do interview an outright 'fetish producer' and have him explain what he does in a better, more honest light.
Having a tickle fetish isn't what freaks people out, being a creepy little liar is.
Exactly! No one gives shit if someone wants to see */m material, but if you create an elaborate online persona who wants to see hot young guys with swimmer/gymnast bods (no homos!), try to blackmail them into making more material, and take criminal action to protect your false identity...people notice.
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she's not doing the chair, she saw the documentary and has decided that the chair isn't for her. (it was on this past Thursday's Schmoe's show)
p.s. are we ever going to get out from under Voldemort's thumb? that pain the backside of the community has been hanging on like the world's best barnacle for way too long.. sigh)
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You know what I mean. It's either vanilla sex or a less tame fetish with them.
Wait...what? Vanilla, or something more extreme? Seriously?
There are a lot of fetishes that dovetail with this one quite nicely.
You're being far too narrow in your thinking; what I'm getting is you're thinking that people are:
A: Into tickling,
B: Vanilla,
C: Into something more extreme... (?)
How in the hell does that work?
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Here is a review of the movie from a political (Libertarian) website:
http://reason.com/archives/2016/06/17/movie-review-tickled
http://reason.com/archives/2016/06/17/movie-review-tickled
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Read that (this specifically; "Jane O'Brien's site is owned by a German company that maintains 300 other tickling domains" a thought occurred to me. "Jane O'Brien" very obviously has a fuck of a lot of money to be paying these people, keeping hundreds of websites operational, and stalking and badgering the directors for years on end. Where the fuck did all that come from? Is that ever touched on in this?
Like these are clearly dumb and bizarre men, but there has to be some big money coming from somewhere, how the fuck were these creepers even financing this shit to begin with?, For like a decade, no less, I remember watching and being fascinated with "Debbie Kuhn" videos in like 2005 and 2006.
Like these are clearly dumb and bizarre men, but there has to be some big money coming from somewhere, how the fuck were these creepers even financing this shit to begin with?, For like a decade, no less, I remember watching and being fascinated with "Debbie Kuhn" videos in like 2005 and 2006.
I recall correctly, the man behind She Who Shall Not Be Named had wealthy parents. It's one way he was able to avoid a longer Federal Prison sentence.
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You know what this is something else I want to talk about;
why have we been forbidden from talking about this for so long? We all knew something weird was going on with these videos for years and I distinctly remember being told by mods and admins alike "We can't have this on here" and pulling threads asking about the source of the videos for years before this movie came out.
Did "she" threaten the forum years ago and it was in hopes of preventing a lawsuit, or another one of those "We have to protect the communities reputation so we'll just ignore all this" deals? Even a few months ago, I recall mods not wanting this specific doc talked about.
The person in question was actually convicted of crimes related to cyber attacks (email bombings, DDoS, etc) on three universities, so I'd imagine it's still a concern.
After reading a bunch of reviews and finding out what all the movie is about, it does sound like some crazy yet commendable investigative journalism by these guys about that media group with the blackmail and threats etc. and is probably actually a good documentary.
That being said, Ill probably never watch it since the idea of m/m tickling freaks me out. I mean... for straight people with tickling kinks... thats kinda like gay porn... sooo... not ever gonna see that haha.
I have been examining peoples reactions to the film and I reluctantly think chicago is actually going to be more right than wrong on this one (no offense chicago
) in that it wont be a net negative for us in the tickling community.
No one that I've seen seems to be that freaked out by the idea of a tickling fetish itself. In fact, most seem to think its not a big deal at all, especially in the context of all the possible kinks and fetishes that exist.
So maybe our fears that this will initiate a bad taste in people's mouths and somehow tarnish the reputation of the tickling world is unfounded and may not ever happen.
Its could actually even be good. If more people know about the kink/fetish of tickling overall, it can become more mainstreamed perhaps. If people talk about it more or hear about it more, it could become "normalized" in the minds of more people as society becomes more familiar with it. I doubt they'd let this documentary that investigates a specific story line form their entire opinion for their whole lives about our specific fetish/kink.
Ill admit, I was originally thinking "oh great so some filmmakers are going to ruin our community by showing a bunch of dudes touching each other and paint over our whole world with one media brush stroke" but thats not going to happen, at least thats what it appears to me- from what Ive seen from people reviewing and discussing the film.
Just my thoughts at this point
That being said, Ill probably never watch it since the idea of m/m tickling freaks me out. I mean... for straight people with tickling kinks... thats kinda like gay porn... sooo... not ever gonna see that haha.
I have been examining peoples reactions to the film and I reluctantly think chicago is actually going to be more right than wrong on this one (no offense chicago
) in that it wont be a net negative for us in the tickling community. No one that I've seen seems to be that freaked out by the idea of a tickling fetish itself. In fact, most seem to think its not a big deal at all, especially in the context of all the possible kinks and fetishes that exist.
So maybe our fears that this will initiate a bad taste in people's mouths and somehow tarnish the reputation of the tickling world is unfounded and may not ever happen.
Its could actually even be good. If more people know about the kink/fetish of tickling overall, it can become more mainstreamed perhaps. If people talk about it more or hear about it more, it could become "normalized" in the minds of more people as society becomes more familiar with it. I doubt they'd let this documentary that investigates a specific story line form their entire opinion for their whole lives about our specific fetish/kink.
Ill admit, I was originally thinking "oh great so some filmmakers are going to ruin our community by showing a bunch of dudes touching each other and paint over our whole world with one media brush stroke" but thats not going to happen, at least thats what it appears to me- from what Ive seen from people reviewing and discussing the film.
Just my thoughts at this point
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We definitely get to that... There's a lot that we can't know for sure, but we get a pretty good insight into how the financials might play out.
Ahh, Debbie. It's actually more like 20 years from what I can figure. Not sure it ever stopped after She Who Shall Not Be Named as I believe you say here.
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Legal threats are very free flowing from this person. Even if the threats are without merit they can be very costly to deal with - you need a lawyer to look at them and possibly write responses and research case law. With a website especially this person has been known to attempt to cause problems by making allegations to upstream hosts or providers that could jeopardise the site's ability to operate.
It's probably overly cautious, but certainly not without merit.
This person turned up at a screening and spent at least 15 minutes making thinly veiled legal threats to me in front of hundreds of people and video cameras. It was implied to my face that I would be spending 30 years in prison because I made this film. This stuff isn't great to deal with and I can't really blame people for trying to avoid it.
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I hate how this makes our fetish look but I'm sure every fetish has it's horror stories. Maybe oneday I'll watch it but right now I just don't want to.
Here's a female Youtuber review of Tickled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJBSTZndk0I
Here's a female Youtuber review of Tickled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJBSTZndk0I
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I was all excited to hear CBG19 say the word and talk about tickling and she barely says it at all. Booooo!
Thank you for making this, Dylan. I like that it's getting more public attention, I think.
I also saw that you joined the forum here in 2014; that's awesome. That shows how much work you've put into this thing - how much work you've put into understanding the collective us. Gracias!
I also saw that you joined the forum here in 2014; that's awesome. That shows how much work you've put into this thing - how much work you've put into understanding the collective us. Gracias!
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I thought this was all common knowledge?
I mean, did anyone really think that wearing a jock and jean shorts was innocent fun? I mean, really, really?!!!
I mean, did anyone really think that wearing a jock and jean shorts was innocent fun? I mean, really, really?!!!
You would be surprised at the lengths people will go to keep up their "This is not sexual to me!" defenses....
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Yea, true, I figured once their friends and family saw the videos online, there might be a lot of "OH NO! I wasn't experimenting in college, I was preyed upon".
Now, that's just speculation but c'mon....
Now, that's just speculation but c'mon....
