Who Are Your Inspirational Lers?

[Amnesiac]

Considering that many people here, when recounting their experiences, tend to mention specific people, I was wondering: whether you're LEE or LER, Do you have a LER who has inspired you?

Give you an example...

Even though I'm not a 'lee, TIB is the ler that's inspired me, and here's why:

Watching TIB's clips is like watching a form of hand ballet. His control over the movement of his fingers, hands and arms indicates the kind of discipline that you'd find in a master pianist; they actually GLIDE across the surface of skin in very smooth, fluidic movements. Their motion alone is indicative of an extreme confidence. He also has the ability to transition from very light fluttering to firm (but not aggressive) digging almost instantly, and he can even do so on the same patch of skin, so he gets different reactions out of the same girl from the same spot.

He also (and I don't know if this comes from pre-taping interviews) knows how to approach each spot with the right touch. Even when he seems to be improvising, there is such precision in the way he articulates his digits that even an aborted tickle has an effect before he moves on to another spot. If you'll notice on the new Riley clip (which I recommend, by the way), you'll notice how he deliver devastatingly effective tickles with a simple, deft brush of one to two fingers along her armpit and underside of her breast; most of us would probably resort to a firmer touch with our whole hand, but his fingers are skilled enough to show how less is more. He drives her and other girls) crazy with FLICKS, and brushes and strokes all delivered with the right timing, coordination and pressure.

I would also recommend the Syddra clip where he makes pudding of her hips with a patented two-finger vibration motion (which I call the "hummingbird wings"); not only do both hands move in sync with each other, but they never lose their speed or position, and the effect is devastating, INCREDIBLE control!

And to be fair, MTP Jeff is no amateur either, but his technique is more sterile...it's far more PRECISE and calculating than TIB's, but it's not as organic; Jeff is more rigid and experienced where TIB is fluid and creative. Needless to say, both are extremely effective, and worthy of observation.

So, now that I've finished prostrating, in conclusion I'd like to say that TIB is the perfect influence for me; his elegant and highly disciplined style shows how efficient and sensual tickles can be delivered with great intensity without the reflexive, crude and violent rubbing that afflicts much tickling in the world today. Thanks TIB, keep up the good work.

By the way, just because TIB is a media producer doesn't mean that YOUR influential ler has to be one; mine just happened to be one. If your influence was a relative, friend, teacher, master, whoever, go ahead and list them...it doesn't matter if your teacher was famous in the community or not, it only matters if what they taught you works

All yours now!

 

[HappyHands]

The Red Head from Real Tickling

Pricilla from TC/Real Tickling. I like how ruthless she is, and that she never stops untill she gets her "victome" to laugh. Plus the fact that she would set up her friend Toni for the Without Consent video erns her points with me.

 

[tickler_n_black]

Amnesiac,
wow. that's some flattering stuff up there. thanks for noticing.

ps- and i agree with you, Jeff is a darn good tickler. i've seen a couple of his preview clips and he definitely has what it takes.

 

[gig1965]

I agree.
TIB is an artist.
His canvas is flesh.

He understands the effect of slowly building to a crescendo.
I think the B in TIB stands for Bach.

 

[SimplyRio]

Assuming it's acceptable for Ticklees to be inspired by a Tickler...

I practically drool watching the tickling styles of Tickler in Black, MTP Jeff, and SilverCherry's male tickler (mmmm MMmmmm MMMMMM!!) Their viciously tender, yet tenacious, upper body tickling techniques reach me deeeeeep down to my ticklish core, making me almost jealous of the lucky lady being filmed. I enjoy watching these Ticklers (their facial expressions, their fingertips, etc.) almost as much as I enjoy watching their ticklees. You gotta love the way TiB gently brushes back the hair from his ticklees faces (yet still shows no mercy when he tickles!). I often wonder exactly what goes through their minds while they catalogue the information they gather when tickling... "her skin is so soft and warm," "wow, she really twitches madly when I tickle deeply right HERE," or "listen to her shriek when I touch that spot - this must just tickle sooooo much!"

There are also some writers whose mere words make me shiver with ticklishness, too ~~ Dave 2112 and BigJim immediately come to mind. Both of them have written some stories that have an almost sinister tone to them (a personal favorite). The way they can so eloquently wrap up a ticklishly vulnerable mind brings their wickedly descriptive scenarios almost to life. They both seem to like to write about that hellaciously ticklish soft spot on your sides, buried deep at the waist *shiver* As a timid owner of those same terribly ticklish spots, I swear I can almost actually feel the tickles they write about... in that very spot mmmmMMMMMmmmmmmm

Yes, the above-mentioned Ticklers actually inspire me... they almost make me feel privileged that I'm insanely ticklish! Is that wrong?

 

[drew70]

The Lers I find most inspiring are QBWeaver, Bella, and Shygirl. Any aspiring Ler could learn volumes from these three.

 

[Ayla ny]

ooohhh… I’m tellin’!!! Lee, you weren’t on Drew70’s list! Drew, you are SO dead! (on second thought, I would like to say that not a single ‘ler out there makes my list! so there! )

 

[HappyHands]

I still say she's the best...

Pricilla James is the best no matter what anybody says.

 

[intense tickler]

I have found some of the clips from Brazilian tickling quite erotic and inspirational and Ive never seen such lushious looking soles in any other clips. For example there is one male tickler who talks in a low seductive portugese whisper as his hands dance gracefully over his captive ticklees soles or the one finger caress just here and there gently up and down the archline is simply a work of art!!

 

[tickleboynyc]

Priscilla James! Hands down! Her videos are my all-time favorite.She's wicked, teasing, dominant, sweet, creative, gentle, ruthless...
Oh MAN.
On second thought...maybe Sabrina from MTP? Because she's so damn CUTE! And she obviously gets such a kick out of tickling some poor girl into hysterics!

decisions, decisions...

 

[kis123]

I have a completely different opinion.......

I see tickling as playful, fun, sensual, and even sexual in nature. Although I've never been bound before, I find bondage fascinating. I find the inability to struggle and protect yourself during tickling to be intriguing and frightening at the same time. It is difficult for me to give that much control away. For you lees who do it all the time, I bow before you with respect.

Having said that.......

I own several videos from several producers. I like the older stuff I purchased when I first started on TMF. They were fun exchanges between ler and lee, and the lees were bound but they didn't look like their experience was uncomfortable. They actually looked like they were having a lot of fun.

The videos I've seen lately have been torturous, sadistic, vicious, and sometimes downright cruel. One tells a woman "I'm going to tickle you until you cry" after she's bound. One is tickling a woman who clearly can't keep up her breathing while she's being tag-teamed, and they take turns tickling her away, even tickling her simultaneously during "silent laughter." For you fans of silent laughter, it's something that happens when you tickle a person to the point they can no longer breathe normally or sometimes at all. Someone please tell me what on earth is so great about that?? She's struggling to get air in her lungs to breathe, and you increase the tickling instead of giving her a chance to catch her breath.

What if she has a hidden condition that explodes while you're torturing her during her video? I'm sure you already have her signed disclaimers on file relieving you of any harm if she gets hurt, right? What good does that do for her and her family? Is it worth the money you pay her at the end if you've basically violated her on film for everyone on the internet to purchase for their entertainment? And I don't care if their over 18 and are consenting adults. I believe there should be a line in the sand that should be respected and never crossed. Tickling someone that far past their limits is more like a violent assault to me and I don't find it enjoyable and entertaining to me at all!

I didn't mean to take up this much space with my rant, but this has bothered for a long time to the point that I don't know if I'll ever try bondage as a switch. I don't know if I can ever trust anyone enough to stop once they get started. Will they listen to me or follow my body cues, or will they just tickle away at my own health and expense?

I know there will be many who disagree with me and say what goes on between consenting adults is their own business. I say, you're absolutely right! I also say that a little compassion and concern goes a long way and you don't have to worry about hurting anyone when it's over.

 

[SillyMan]

I have a completely different opinion.......

I see tickling as playful, fun, sensual, and even sexual in nature. Although I've never been bound before, I find bondage fascinating. I find the inability to struggle and protect yourself during tickling to be intriguing and frightening at the same time. It is difficult for me to give that much control away. For you lees who do it all the time, I bow before you with respect.

Having said that.......

I own several videos from several producers. I like the older stuff I purchased when I first started on TMF. They were fun exchanges between ler and lee, and the lees were bound but they didn't look like their experience was uncomfortable. They actually looked like they were having a lot of fun.

The videos I've seen lately have been torturous, sadistic, vicious, and sometimes downright cruel. One tells a woman "I'm going to tickle you until you cry" after she's bound. One is tickling a woman who clearly can't keep up her breathing while she's being tag-teamed, and they take turns tickling her away, even tickling her simultaneously during "silent laughter." For you fans of silent laughter, it's something that happens when you tickle a person to the point they can no longer breathe normally or sometimes at all. Someone please tell me what on earth is so great about that?? She's struggling to get air in her lungs to breathe, and you increase the tickling instead of giving her a chance to catch her breath.

What if she has a hidden condition that explodes while you're torturing her during her video? I'm sure you already have her signed disclaimers on file relieving you of any harm if she gets hurt, right? What good does that do for her and her family? Is it worth the money you pay her at the end if you've basically violated her on film for everyone on the internet to purchase for their entertainment? And I don't care if their over 18 and are consenting adults. I believe there should be a line in the sand that should be respected and never crossed. Tickling someone that far past their limits is more like a violent assault to me and I don't find it enjoyable and entertaining to me at all!

I didn't mean to take up this much space with my rant, but this has bothered for a long time to the point that I don't know if I'll ever try bondage as a switch. I don't know if I can ever trust anyone enough to stop once they get started. Will they listen to me or follow my body cues, or will they just tickle away at my own health and expense?

I know there will be many who disagree with me and say what goes on between consenting adults is their own business. I say, you're absolutely right! I also say that a little compassion and concern goes a long way and you don't have to worry about hurting anyone when it's over.

kis123, I agree in every word you say! I'm so glad someone comes out and says it. I've often felt bad about the torturous ways of tickling and non-con tickling. kis123, my applause to you!

 

[kis123]

kis123, I agree in every word you say! I'm so glad someone comes out and says it. I've often felt bad about the torturous ways of tickling and non-con tickling. kis123, my applause to you!

I don't want to take away from the true purpose of this thread, and I apologize to anyone who feels I have. I'm not very good at holding my tongue on certain issues and I held this one in for over a year--a record for kis' standards!

Torture is torture, be it a beating, flogging, or tickling someone past ridiculous limits. I know there are some people who like it that way, and I don't have a problem with that. But even if it's consentual, caution and care should be exercised at all times.

I have other opinions about what has been supposed to be a tickling video but is no more than porn with a little tickling on the side. But, I don't want to have to apologize twice to the thread starter for getting off track.

 

[HappyHands]

I agree... to a point.

I agree that some people go to far with what they do when it comes to tickling. I'm a ler, and I simply can not endure any tickling (I'm such a big baby). However if all things are discused before a video is made, an, the lee knows that this will be an intence sean then I say no harm no foul. Then again my favorit video is Without Consent, witch features Pricella James tickling her fiend Toni, when she knows Toni hates to be tickled. The stroy I read was that Prisila told Toni she'd be possing for bondage pics, and she was cool with that.

Thats the only non-con stuff I've ever liked.

 

[mart]

Kis, I see where you are coming from and personally i don't like torture in any form. But if you read the model interviews on this site, you will find that, amazingly, some of them even get off on it, and are prepared to appear again and again. And this is the experience off many 'lees. If you take a company like TC Videos, they offer a wide range of fetish material and would hardly be upset if you said you liked some videos and hated others - they are producing for a variety of tastes which do not necessarily mix.

I believe that the point of a site like this is to be aware of what others' likes, needs, dislikes and so on are and learn about the various things that one likes oneself.

From what we say here as well as from personal e-mails and sales records, the media companies can best judge what people want. And the stuffis obviously finding a market.

As far as the health hazard goes, I might be worried if it was my grandmother they were tickling, but in most cases, people will pass out from lack of breath before they actually quit the planet.

 

[kis123]

I must reiterate from my previous post that, firstly, I don't want to take away from the original spirit of the thread. I don't want to turn this into an anti-video producer thread. People have their tastes and producers do what makes their customers happy. I'm not against that at all!!

I have a huge problem with the ones where you can clearly see they're being tickled way past their limits, they're begging to stop, and the ler continues to tickle. I don't think those were agreed upon, and if they were, common sense should prevail at some point before someone gets hurt. Some scenes are so torturous looking it frightens me to even watch the video. I can't imagine how they must've felt while it was happening.

I don't want this to turn into anything other than my own personal opinion. It's not going to stop these videos from being produced anyway. Too many people willing to see someone else get tortured from the comfort of their homes to stop it anyway.

 

[chrisheaven]

Christina Catrer
www.ticklecentral.com

 

[SillyMan]

Christina Catrer
www.ticklecentral.com

Could you tell about what you think is the great thing about her as a tickler?

 

[Amnesiac]

Kis' concerns

Seeing as how I started this thread I figured it was my job to make sure questions and concerns like this were addressed with the right level of objectivity. Kis, ever the conscientious poster, has a few valid concerns so I'll address them in the hopes that my perspective will help.

Although I've never been bound before, I find bondage fascinating. I find the inability to struggle and protect yourself during tickling to be intriguing and frightening at the same time.

There ya go; I'm the same way, but if that is how one gets off or excited, I'm not gonna stand in their way. Plus, for some people, bondage can be so exciting that they make react as though they are in more distress than they actually are.

The videos I've seen lately have been torturous, sadistic, vicious, and sometimes downright cruel. One tells a woman "I'm going to tickle you until you cry" after she's bound. One is tickling a woman who clearly can't keep up her breathing while she's being tag-teamed, and they take turns tickling her away, even tickling her simultaneously during "silent laughter."

Sometimes those vids turn out to be a bit of a fake; those with great tickling experience can listen to a woman's laugh and tell pretty accurately whether she's for real or faking it (but I imagine you have to approach it the same way as those "How to Tell If She's Faking It" articles in magazines), and sometimes the best can be fooled.

Also, as anyone in our fetish knows, verbal play is all part of the fun (and part of the sales in the clips); saying "I'm gonna tickle you until you cry" doesn't necessarily mean they're gonna do it, also, virtually every ticklee here can tell you that even moderate sessions will cause the eyes to water if the laughter is sustained long enough, but unless there's full on CRYING, it may not mean what it looks like. Bondage experts warn novices that even if the sub is enjoying the experience, the stimulation can vent huge emotional bursts that may look like pain and stress but actually be something else.

These same experts also warn that a breakdown, even if it isn't traumatic, should be treated as such to make sure the sub comes down alright.

(TIB has had a few clips with a girl who has actually cried afterwards and come back for other clips...apparently, some things aren't as they appear.)

For you fans of silent laughter, it's something that happens when you tickle a person to the point they can no longer breathe normally or sometimes at all. Someone please tell me what on earth is so great about that??

Good question! Here's the thing with silent laughter...it tends to appeal mostly to guys, since we get off on visual stimulus (women can also get off on it, but probably more from imagining what it must feel like to be tickled to silent laughter). When guys do ANYTHING active, our minds attribute that the reaction of an event is directly proportional to the vigorousness of our exertion; and that our exertion is proportional to our will...thus, the harder we want something to happen, the more effort we put into our action and the stronger the reaction becomes. Physicists will debate how often this is true.

Silent laughter represents perigee: the highest state of tickling endurance one can reach; if someone can't even draw the breath to make sound, the tickling must be so intense that it's drowning out all else. For a LER who gets off on the reaction of the LEE more than the playfulness of actually tickling, silent laughter is the evidence that they are really doing a good job. Even if the tickling isn't sexual, I think it's VEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRY similar to the MOANING = VIRILITY equation you find in porno flicks: the more intensely the woman moans, the more convinced the guy is of his ability.

Funnily enough, there is a weird parallel here between tickling and sex: most people are pretty sure that the more a woman moans, the more evident it is that she's covering up for his lack of talent. BUT, if she suddenly gets quiet, the more likely it is that she's getting into the moment, and thus, genuinely excited, which would indicate talent on the lover's part. So funnily enough, rendering a woman silent with stumulation seems to be indicative (unconsciously anyway) of talented prowess on the man's part.

She's struggling to get air in her lungs to breathe, and you increase the tickling instead of giving her a chance to catch her breath

Again, as it was said, some LEEs get off on that (think of how asphyxiation play works in sex, even though it IS dangerous). I would also point out that video producers are always in constant danger of something going wrong legally, and even though torturous non-con tickling can happen in real-life, I think it's UNLIKELY (not impossible) that it would happen on a video shoot. Assault charges can and ARE pressed even when nothing does go wrong, and one incident is enough to ruin a producer's reputation and actual business. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not signing a release or contract if I think something may come up that I couldn't hack.

I suppose it's also worth mentioning that while you can torture someone with pain, I don't think you can do the same with tickling. Pain is designed to alert the brain of injury and self-defense, whereas tickling is more like a basic sensation report. If someone being tickled doesn't want it anymore, anger, fear, and other emotions are more likely to break through and override the tickling sensations. You can't do that with pain.

Tickling someone that far past their limits is more like a violent assault to me and I don't find it enjoyable and entertaining to me at all!

No one says you have to. I don't find anal sex entertaining in the LEAST but others do; if that's their thing, fine with me as long as I don't have to watch it. HOWEVER, I think that you will find in the tickling community that the torturous non-con past-limits tickling is offensive to everyone, INCLUDING fans of silent laughter. Silent laughter as a result of excitement and enthusiasm and ejoyability in a lee is one thing...silent laughter as a result of distress and desperation is quite another. And in my opinion, kis, you have more agreement with you on this one than you may think.

I don't know if I can ever trust anyone enough to stop once they get started. Will they listen to me or follow my body cues, or will they just tickle away at my own health and expense?

Nobody should get involved with ANYTHING if they don't trust the person; that goes for ANY fetish, not just ours. I honestly don;t think anybody will submit to anything they feel uncomfortable doing, and if someone SHOULD violate the bond of trust between SUB and DOM...that's what we have dungeon masters for.

 

[He-Man]

Priscilla James! Hands down! Her videos are my all-time favorite.She's wicked, teasing, dominant, sweet, creative, gentle, ruthless...
Oh MAN.
On second thought...maybe Sabrina from MTP? Because she's so damn CUTE! And she obviously gets such a kick out of tickling some poor girl into hysterics!

Both are great...I would've loved seeing them team up on one or more women. Or tickling each other. Hmm..I wonder if Sabrina could handle Priscilla's tongue tickling ...or if Priscilla could handle Sabrina using the electric toothbrush alllll over her just like she did with Esther.

On second thought , heck with them teamin up on some lady..I'd rather they both team up on me.

 

[kis123]

Amnesiac:

I won't quote you in the name of redundancy. Anyone who wants to know what you wrote can read it for themselves. We can talk about the "consumate poster" reference later. Now, there are other things to discuss.

I merely stated an opinion. I do not expect anyone to agree with me. Being the "consumate poster" you already know that kis will stand by her opinions even if it means that I stand by myself. I still find these videos torturous, violent, vicious, and basically cruel whether they consent or not. No one should be tickled in that manner ever. You have no idea what could be going on inside your body and don't know if or when something could explode as a result of over-exploring your tickling limits. Why risk everything over someone's need to push the envelope? What, is that that much money in it? What's the real motivator? Sado-masochism? Is it worth your health or your life? I'm sorry, no one can convince me that it's worth it.

People are entitled to their opinions, as I am entitled to mine. It disturbs me to watch suffering on a girl's face and laughter being forced out of her body. I'm absolutely NOT a fan of silent laughter. It's the body's response to not getting enough air to breathe. It's another form of asfixiation (spell) and I've never understood what the hell people are thinking when they do that to themselves. What on earth is attractive to watch? Why would people enjoy watching something like that for entertainment? I find it repulsive and once again, I'm entitled to my opinion whether it's shared with others or mine alone.

My opinion won't phase the video producers or the "customers" who enjoy this torture as some form of entertainment. I'll just be someone with an opinion, and we know what opinions are like.

 

[TummyDragon]

We can talk about the "consumate poster" reference later.

the reference was "conscientious poster"...

I understand we all have different opinions. That's a given. so do you have any inspirational 'lers to add? Who are the 'lers in the videos that you DO like and what is it that you DO like about them?

 

[kis123]

the reference was "conscientious poster"...

I understand we all have different opinions. That's a given. so do you have any inspirational 'lers to add? Who are the 'lers in the videos that you DO like and what is it that you DO like about them?

Please excuse me while I go get Hooked on Phonics!

Yes, I do have inspirational lers. I liked Priscilla James-it's too bad she's no longer in the business. She was ruthless with a fun streak in her. I liked Kristin (TC videos, I think) also. They also were good switches as well. You know they could dish it out and take it too.

I'm not against every video producer in the industry, just the ones who exploit and use these young girls and the ones who make porn and pass it off as a tickling video. There are a lot of good ones out here and those are the vids that I purchase and enjoy.

 

[TummyDragon]

LoL, hooked on phonics?

I have to agree with you and those who mentioned Priscilla.. Her attitude, deviously playful persona, and impeccable spider-fingers techniques are phenomenal. I love how she just goes after ticklish spots with her hands, mouth, whatever, with that wry grin of glee.

 

[njjen3953]

I agree.
TIB is an artist.
His canvas is flesh.

He understands the effect of slowly building to a crescendo.
I think the B in TIB stands for Bach.

*sigh* i am still waiting for the opportunity to be his canvas.