Rampage In The UFC

chuck wouldnt be competition for him

rampage beat him so bad in pride it was funny chuck let him have everthing he had rampage shrugged it off and knocked him out

Hughes is the best in the UFC.


It would be interesting to see rampage in ufc.

I'd love to see that rematch, lol.


There are so many good fighters these days, it's tough to tell.

The Gracie`s are the standard

Royce sure isn't anymore, lmao

I feel sorry for gracie, because the reason he was winning back then, was becuase nobody had ever seen brasilian jui-jitsu... Now, everyone in the UFC knows it.

thats right all these fighters had to study it for years to have a chance to beat that style. It has changed mixed martial arts forever. Royce has not fought in UFC in years and he is 38 and that is ancient in this sport. That would be like asking Pele to comeback now and try to compete with Ronaldo.

Thats a good analogy mate!


It would have been interesting to see Hughes fight Gracie when he was younger.

ShiningIce said:

Royce on his BEST could never beat Sakurabai

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That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.Funny thing is Royce isn`t even the best fighter in the Gracie family.

ShiningIce said:

Ah, but an opinion based mostly on FACT. For they have already faced eachother, and Gracie lost.

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Oh yea that was that BOGUS chokeout.What a joke

Anyone else sad about the fact that Randy Couture (sp?) retired?


I always enjoyed his fights.

Well since I am naturally biased in favor of wrestlers, yes I was pretty bummed. Especially since Liddel is a traitor and only uses his wrestling skills to keep the fights standing up. 😡

ShiningIce said:

BJ Penn will beat Hughes............. AGAIN.

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holy shit.. first of all, i thought i was the only one who was into MMA on this board.. ive tried talking about it before and there were maybe 2 people who were like yea cool.. and then i see this.. so thats awesome.. glad to see im not the only one..

as to penn/hughes rematch.. penn will never topple hughes again.. for one, hughes made a huge mistake (probably the dumbest thing ive ever seen).. he had penn on his back working the rear naked choke, and for some reason he decided to drop both his arms and go for bj's ankle.. gee let me think.. bj penn, black belt in brazilian jiujitsu and the first person to ever choke gomi out, is on my back.. what should i do? better stop defending or trying for a reversal or sweep and just go for an ankle lock.. he had no leverage or anything, he couldnt have cranked the ankle if bj gave it to him..

point being this.. bas rutten said it best.. its a learning game.. like if you are in a fight and you get armbarred, odds are you arent going to get armbarred again because you dont want to make the same dumb mistakes that got you there in the first place.. i think hughes will be a little more prepared if they ever did rematch.. but he has to get through GSP first fellas..

another point.. all of bj penns most recent fights have been terrible.. he only fought twice in 2005, losing to ryoto machida and pulling out a victory over the past-his-prime renzo gracie.. against GSP, he gave up after the first round.. he just gave up.. he got dominated for the rest of the fight.. bj penn may have at one point been the best pound for pound fighter in the world, but those days are gone..

sorry everybody, once i get going on this sport, its hard to stop.. and these are all just my opinions/analysis.. im not saying anybody is wrong

and about rampage in the UFC.. i dont think it will happen.. because rampage has already signed with the newly reformed WFA.. hes their poster boy.. first fight is later this month.. july 22nd.. rampage vs matt lindland.. the wfa has alot of good fighters, if you all havent heard of them/checked them out.. bas rutten is coming back, kimo is coming back, mayhem, razor rob mccollough, kit cope, ivan salavery, machida, jorge oliviera (upcoming chute boxe usa star), ricco rodriguez, art santore, ron waterman.. their first card looks awesome.. so if you havent heard of them, check them out.. and rampage vs lindland is going to be awesome

but, rampage is all about the money now.. if the UFC pays him enough, he will come fight chuck.. but mark my words.. renato 'babalu' sobral is going to take the belt at UFC62.. people underestimate him.. but hes going to take it this time

But that's what makes Liddell so brilliant though. He doesn't win because he's well-rounded. He wins because he makes you fight his fight. And some of his knockouts are so brutal, you can't help but cheer.

As far as Hughes vs. Penn goes, the next name on Hughes' dance card is Georges St. Pierre. Before Penn get his shot, Hughes has to survive the Rush and to be honest, I don't think he will. St. Pierre is younger, faster and SO hungry for that belt. I think a better fight would be St. Pierre/Penn 2 for the belt.

For competition, I think there's less competition in the UFC right now for Rich Franklin than for Chuck Liddell, but that's just me.

Snail Shell

Snail Shell said:

But that's what makes Liddell so brilliant though. He doesn't win because he's well-rounded. He wins because he makes you fight his fight. And some of his knockouts are so brutal, you can't help but cheer.

As far as Hughes vs. Penn goes, the next name on Hughes' dance card is Georges St. Pierre. Before Penn get his shot, Hughes has to survive the Rush and to be honest, I don't think he will. St. Pierre is younger, faster and SO hungry for that belt. I think a better fight would be St. Pierre/Penn 2 for the belt.

For competition, I think there's less competition in the UFC right now for Rich Franklin than for Chuck Liddell, but that's just me.

Snail Shell

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actually liddell is well rounded.. obviously hes an incredible striker, but he also trains in bjj and his base was wrestling.. he just never has to display his ground game, because he also has possibly the best takedown defense in all of MMA.. if you can get chuck down, you actually have a chance.. but half the battle is the takedown..

i cant say if st pierre will take it or not, but he is definately the #1 contender.. he has the best shot out of anybody to take the belt.. they are actually pretty evenly matched.. the one thing ill give st pierre is his reach advantage.. hughes is a stocky wrestler with short arms.. st pierre is HUGE at 170 and is extremely agile.. i see the rematch going alot like the first fight, minus the armbar.. st pierre didnt fight like himself, due to the fact it was MATT HUGHES.. but now he has been in there with him, he is a much better fighter (mentally and physically), and is hungrier than before.. so if hughes doesnt bring his A+ game, it could be the end of his reign..

theres always a problem with competition in the UFC.. except in the welterweight division and now the lightweight division.. FORTUNATELY, anderson silva has signed with the UFC and already tore through chris leben.. he might be fighting franklin next for the title, as thats how it was negotiated in the first place.. that would be a HELL of a fight.. but other than that, the only competition for franklin is mike swick (who fights david louiseau next), nathan marquardt, and chris leben if he gets back on track.. but honestly, i only see swick and silva as being a real threat..

as far as competition for chuck, he has already beaten pretty much anybody in the LHW division that poses a threat to him.. so its all going to be rematches until someone takes him out.. or they finally sign some decent LHW talent..

the next name they are saying is going for the heavyweight belt is JEFF MONSON.. hes an incredible grappler, but seriously.. put him in there with sylvia/arlovski, and he is going to be a different person after that fight.. literally..

i only see swick and silva as being a real threat..

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don`t forget about Tanner. i know he has been beaten twice but he is a very dangerous fighter

as far as competition for chuck, he has already beaten pretty much anybody in the LHW division that poses a threat to him.. so its all going to be rematches until someone takes him out.. or they finally sign some decent LHW talent..

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i would love for Babalu to take the belt from him,he is on a rampage.If he doesn`t i will bet my house on Tito being the one to do it.he won`t play Chucks game this time around.

anderson silva has signed with the UFC and already tore through chris leben..

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it seemed as though leben was believing his own hype about being ko`d...even if you think that...how are gonna try and move straight in on a world class striker with a reach advantage...

the next name they are saying is going for the heavyweight belt is JEFF MONSON.. hes an incredible grappler, but seriously.. put him in there with sylvia/arlovski, and he is going to be a different person after that fight.. literally..

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the HW division of the UFC is horrible.they need to sign some serios talent or just waste the division entirley....that being said-- AA over Tim by KO rd 1

i cant say if st pierre will take it or not, but he is definately the #1 contender..

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lol.....i can..."he will take it."

seriously though.....GSP can taste that belt.i expect a long battle with GSP winning.

i think i quoted your entire post bass......lol

MMA is the shit....anyone watch the PRIDE OWGP this past sunday?It was frickin fantastic!!

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From what I have seen recently on spike tv. This slyvia guy is a monster in the octagon. He just looks so focused. Again, shamrock is going to get a beating. Tito is younger and a much more focused fighter. I have been getting really into ufc lately. Ecw huh!!

as much as I would like to see shamrock DESTROY ortiz, I must admit, he has no chance. I predict an Ortiz victory in the first round.

drunkenmstr13 said:

don`t forget about Tanner. i know he has been beaten twice but he is a very dangerous fighter



i would love for Babalu to take the belt from him,he is on a rampage.If he doesn`t i will bet my house on Tito being the one to do it.he won`t play Chucks game this time around.



it seemed as though leben was believing his own hype about being ko`d...even if you think that...how are gonna try and move straight in on a world class striker with a reach advantage...



the HW division of the UFC is horrible.they need to sign some serios talent or just waste the division entirley....that being said-- AA over Tim by KO rd 1



lol.....i can..."he will take it."

seriously though.....GSP can taste that belt.i expect a long battle with GSP winning.

i think i quoted your entire post bass......lol

MMA is the shit....anyone watch the PRIDE OWGP this past sunday?It was frickin fantastic!!

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haha i think you did quote my entire post man.. and now im responding to all of yours.. i always have something to say about this sport.. read up on it everyday

tanner is definately a threat still.. he started training with chute boxe usa out in california and is starting to work his ground game more again, which is where he was such a threat in the first place (besides the clinch).. unfortunately though, he is going through a lot of personal trouble right now.. he keeps people updated through his myspace page.. he pulled out of UFC60 against jeremy horn because he wasnt mentally right.. i know he is going to make a comeback, and when he does, he is going straight back up the 'food chain'.. the man is a warrior

dude.. SO many people underestimate babalu.. he hasnt lost a single fight since his last fight with chuck.. since then hes beaten (LOOK at this list): trevor prangley, mauricio rua, jeremy horn, jose 'pele' landi-jons, travis wiuff, chael sonnen, mike van arsdale.. and those are just the people that are top caliber.. there are 3 other wins on top of that.. i really see him taking it.. and not just because of the people he has beaten since then..

once tito beats ken shamrock into retirement, he is either going to fight chuck again, or babalu if he wins.. i would LOVE to see babalu vs tito for the first time, instead of chuck vs tito for the second time.. that would be an EXCELLENT fight.. tito loves the ground and pound, but babalu is so good on the ground he would want to keep it standing.. either way, the light heavyweights are kinda shaping up a little bit.. they still need to sign some new talent though

leben wasnt there.. as soon as i saw them in the staredown, it just hit me.. i was like 'leben is gonna get knocked the f*ck out'.. silva was all calm and collected and focused on what he was there to do.. and leben was all like HEY LOOK AT ME IM CHRIS LEBEN.. all smiling during the staredown and stuff.. i think after he got hit with two stiff jabs and fell into the fence within the first 10 seconds of the fight, he realized he made a mistake.. after that he was just swinging wild shots and not defending himself at all.. i saw the knee coming from a mile away.. but i guess he didnt.. i wouldnt count him out as a top contender, but he obviously is not as good as he thinks he is.. he wasnt ready to face a world-class striker.. silva is going to tear through the middleweights.. id like to see swick fight the loser of silva/franklin.. that would be a good matchup.. swick is a beast

i agree about the hw division.. send arlovski to pride, keep sylvia around for the WFA, drop brandon vera and jeff monson to lhw, and scrap the rest of the division.. frank mir is done for.. he may still win a few fights, but he will never get his title back..

i dont know about GSP/hughes man.. i also think GSP will take it, but i can never count out matt hughes.. thats one of those fights that could seriously go either way..

i didnt catch the OWGP live, but ive seen all the fights since then.. i think the semi-finals are going to be big nog vs barnett because those two have never fought, and a rematch of crocop vs silva, except this time without the special rules.. i think it would end up big nog vs silva in the finals.. which has fireworks written all over it.. big nog has expressed interest in fighting silva too.. i cant wait to see what kind of prelims they have lined up for this..

honestly though, im more excited about the welterweight GP 2nd round coming up.. i think they are gonna put dan henderson up against either paulo filho or denis kang.. either of which would be an EXCELLENT matchup.. i dont see hendo losing the belt anytime soon though..

also, PRIDE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SHOW IN LAS VEGAS IN OCTOBER.. with the possibility of there being a title defense by either fedor or wanderlei.. im thinking about going.. they are having a show here in orlando next saturday called combat fighting championships.. i have seats three rows from the cage..