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8 home runs today, a sweep of the Cubs in Chicago even, the best record in baseball, unbelieveable (22 games above .500).

I know they haven't done as well against the top teams yet, but thankfully at least they're competitive again, actually more than competitive. I'm a realist and realize that it's not a guarantee we'll make the playoffs, the season isn't even half over yet, but isn't it good to see someone new leading a division this late in the year?

With the Red Wings and Pistons, while not having great playoffs, finishing with the best regular season record and now the Tigers on pace to do the same it's still great to be great professional sports team fan in Detroit right now.

I know, we still have the Lions...
 
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The tigers are doing pretty good, so far....... the last time they were great was 67, that was a good year. The Redwings will always be my team though,always have.
 
The Tigers are now seeing the seeds they've planted come to fruition. Just look at what that farm system has developed. Verlander, Bonderman, Granderson, Shelton, Inge, etcetra. Though some of those names have struggled, the point is they're still home-grown starters for that team. This is what my Orioles are currently trying to do with the likes of Ray, Cabrera, Bedard, Loewen, Penn, Markakis, and so on. Hopefully they'll surprise some people and be where the Tigers are sooner than later. But as for the Tigers themselves, I'm enjoying this team very much, even from a distance. I always love it when a franchise that's been down for as long as they have springs back to life.
 
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tckleguy said:
8 home runs today, a sweep of the Cubs in Chicago even, the best record in baseball, unbelieveable (22 games above .500).

I know they haven't done as well against the top teams yet, but thankfully at least they're competitive again, actually more than competitive. I'm a realist and realize that it's not a guarantee we'll make the playoffs, the season isn't even half over yet, but isn't it good to see someone new leading a division this late in the year?

With the Red Wings and Pistons, while not having great playoffs, finishing with the best regular season record and now the Tigers on pace to do the same it's still great to be great professional sports team fan in Detroit right now.

I know, we still have the Lions...
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I will simply state this: Who doesnt beat on the sCrUBS? There is a reason why they remain the joke of MLB with apathetic fans and being run by andy mcphail(fail) and will resume to be a doomed franchise till they get a new manager and dump the messiah(prior) and kerry "Balsa" Wood

I have to note, the Whitesox are only 1.5 games behind them and the Sox are currently 5-1 against the tigers this season. Teams can do whatever outside of the division but what counts most is interdivisional play and losing maroth aint helping them. Yes i am biased but it will be the sox owning the division again, with arguably the best 3-4-5 hitting combination in baseball with thome-konerko-dye.

As for good feeling, i wouldnt say this is late in the season, we're about a month away from the halfway point and right now they are breezing thru a real easy schedule with pujol-less st louis, houston is streaky but then pitt. The biggest part of the season will be july-aug when the sox play the tigers 12 times, that will determine the division

And to quote Sox grinder rule 71, "If at first you succeed, Repeat"
 
Adam said:
The Tigers are now seeing the seeds they've planted come to fruition. Just look at what that farm system has developed. Verlander, Bonderman, Granderson, Inge, etcetra. This is what my Orioles are currently trying to do with the likes of Ray, Cabrera, Bedard, Loewen, Penn, Markakis, etcetra. Hopefully they'll surprise some people and be where the Tigers are sooner than later. But as for the Tigers themselves, I'm enjoying this team very much, even from a distance. I always love it when a franchise that's been down for as long as they have springs back to life.
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After several years of "espn experts" proclaiming bonderman will be a cy young candidate, they had to possibly be close in guessing once so this could be the year. Im sure peter gammons is waiting for zach grinke to he can proclaim "i told everyone!
 
Man, for Greinke to win a Cy Young, he'll need to get the hell out of KC. As bad as that team is, he could lead the league in ERA, strikeouts, and still have a, say, 8-17 record. KC is another city that deserves better. MUCH better. I still remember the days of George Brett and Frank White. Class guys, and terrific ball players. Unfortunately, untill they're finally sold to someone who cares, they're stuck in limbo.
 
Adam said:
Man, for Greinke to win a Cy Young, he'll need to get the hell out of KC. As bad as that team is, he could lead the league in ERA, strikeouts, and still have a, say, 8-17 record. KC is another city that deserves better. MUCH better. I still remember the days of George Brett and Frank White. Class guys, and terrific ball players. Unfortunately, untill they're finally sold to someone who cares, they're stuck in limbo.
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Im just saying how clueless and biased ESPN media analysts are. Last year before the season began, they picked AL cy young probables, and said it would between nate robertson and zach greinke. Now freddy garcia and Mark Buehrle have repeatedly shown amazing stuff and both have impressive W-L records in their careers not to mention a decent offense. Its funny how the two probables were some of the worst pitchers in besuboru and mark started the all star game.

KC is a dump run by crooked people, all the revenue sharing money goes into his pocket and not to the team
 
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I knew what you were getting at, and I agree 100%. I was just making a general comment on how bad the Royals are, and how it's so sad for an organization that used to be very classy. I should know all about that, being a die-hard fan of the once proud Baltimore Orioles. 😉
 
Adam said:
Oh, don't misunderstand me. I knew what you were getting at, and I agree 100%. I was just making a general comment on how bad the Royals are, and how it's so sad for an organization that used to be very classy. I should know all about that, being a die-hard fan of the once proud Baltimore Orioles. 😉
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Hey, if any year for balt to make a run, its now, with the yankees wounded, boston\toronto sluggin it out, balt has a chance, got a stellar relief\closer
 
Yeah, you're right about the relief corps. That was actually a major weakness at the start of the season. But now, the O's have shipped out some of the dead weight in guys like Halama and Brower, and brought up young guys who are really impressing and getting guys out consistently like Britton and Birkins. Chris Ray is an absolute stud as closer. I'm glad we didn't try to match Toronto's ridiculous offer for B.J. Ryan. He may be good, but not $47 million good. Most starters don't even get that much.

I'd love for us to be able to make a run, but in order to do so, the starting rotation really needs to step up. Bedard and Cabrera are still inconsistent. Bedard, however, has been pretty good his last 3 starts, and was absolutely phenomenal last night against Florida (8 IP, 2 H, 12 K, 0 BB). I'm still waiting for Cabrera to put it all together and be as dominant as we've seen he can be on a more regular basis. Kris Benson has been very good for us, and hopefully won't struggle in the 2nd half like he has traditionally. We've also brought up Adam Loewen and Hayden Penn, 2 of our best prospects. Loewen's been about what you can expect of a young pitcher getting his first test of the majors... some good, some bad. Penn recently underwent an appendectomy, so he hasn't pitched for the big club yet. Leo Mazzone was extremely impressed with him in spring training though, and I liked what I saw out of him during his brief call-up last year. Lopez and Chen have been truly awful, and need to be shipped out the second another team shows even minimal interest. They're not part of our future. So yeah, you can tell I'm a die-hard. 🙂
 
lrtk36 said:
The tigers are doing pretty good, so far....... the last time they were great was 67, that was a good year. The Redwings will always be my team though,always have.
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I really thought the the Tigers won the World Series in 1968 versus the St.Louis Cardinals and also if I remember correctly didn't the Tigers win a World Series in 1984 when they started the season 35-5? I also recall them going to the playoffs in 1987. In 1967, the Cardinals played the Boston Red Sox in the World Series.
 
Goodieluver said:
I will simply state this: Who doesnt beat on the sCrUBS? There is a reason why they remain the joke of MLB with apathetic fans and being run by andy mcphail(fail) and will resume to be a doomed franchise till they get a new manager and dump the messiah(prior) and kerry "Balsa" Wood

I have to note, the Whitesox are only 1.5 games behind them and the Sox are currently 5-1 against the tigers this season. Teams can do whatever outside of the division but what counts most is interdivisional play and losing maroth aint helping them. Yes i am biased but it will be the sox owning the division again, with arguably the best 3-4-5 hitting combination in baseball with thome-konerko-dye.

As for good feeling, i wouldnt say this is late in the season, we're about a month away from the halfway point and right now they are breezing thru a real easy schedule with pujol-less st louis, houston is streaky but then pitt. The biggest part of the season will be july-aug when the sox play the tigers 12 times, that will determine the division

And to quote Sox grinder rule 71, "If at first you succeed, Repeat"
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Pujols played the entire weekend against the the Tigers. The Cardinals got blasted out of Detroit. The Astros with Roger Clemens did not slow down the Tigers and now the Tigers are leading the division by 2.5 games over the White Sox. The Tigers are now 55-25 and are starting the month of July with the best record in baseball at the midway point of the season ( since there is 162 games to a season it is half over ). The Tigers have now won 7 straight and head out to Oakland and Seattle before the All Star break. The Tigers on their 10 game West Coast swing in April were 7-3. This team is consistant and plays extremely well on the road. Will the White Sox win this division? Probably. But I believe that the Tigers are for real and will make the playoffs for the first time since 1987. The Tigers can play 41-41 the rest of the season ( .500 ball ) and still have 96 wins. That is impressive. What is more impressive than that is their team ERA is 3.45. There is not substituting for good pitching. The Red Sox and Yankees will not both be going to the playoffs this season.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Pujols played the entire weekend against the the Tigers. The Cardinals got blasted out of Detroit. The Astros with Roger Clemens did not slow down the Tigers and now the Tigers are leading the division by 2.5 games over the White Sox. The Tigers are now 55-25 and are starting the month of July with the best record in baseball at the midway point of the season ( since there is 162 games to a season it is half over ). The Tigers have now won 7 straight and head out to Oakland and Seattle before the All Star break. The Tigers on their 10 game West Coast swing in April were 7-3. This team is consistant and plays extremely well on the road. Will the White Sox win this division? Probably. But I believe that the Tigers are for real and will make the playoffs for the first time since 1987. The Tigers can play 41-41 the rest of the season ( .500 ball ) and still have 96 wins. That is impressive. What is more impressive than that is their team ERA is 3.45. There is not substituting for good pitching. The Red Sox and Yankees will not both be going to the playoffs this season.
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Well, also must be mentioned, the entire NL got destroyed by the AL. Also, pujols came after a 15 day layoff with no swinging, so it takes some time to get that timing back

As for the tigers being real, i will address that with their record against the AL central or better, the record against the sox and twins
 
Goodieluver said:
Well, also must be mentioned, the entire NL got destroyed by the AL. Also, pujols came after a 15 day layoff with no swinging, so it takes some time to get that timing back

As for the tigers being real, i will address that with their record against the AL central or better, the record against the sox and twins
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He hit 3 homeruns in that series against a team with an ERA of 3.50 which just happens to be the BEST in Baseball. He was an extremely good that weekend against the Tigers.

The Tigers still have the best record in baseball. The Twins have not gained any ground on the Tigers during the Twins hot streak. Why do you think that is? The Twins until they dropped 2 straight to the Royals had won 20 of 22. Do you know that while the Twins were going 20 of 22 that the White Sox were 18 of 22 and the Tigers were 20 of 24? Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, the Tigers are for real and will make the playoffs this season.
 
Goodieluver said:
Well, also must be mentioned, the entire NL got destroyed by the AL. Also, pujols came after a 15 day layoff with no swinging, so it takes some time to get that timing back

As for the tigers being real, i will address that with their record against the AL central or better, the record against the sox and twins
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I have to make another point about these Tigers that nobody in baseball or their fans have pointed out. In the Tigers last 72 games ( which is 9 games short of a half a season ) the Tigers are 50 wins and 22 loses. That equates to a .694 winning percentage. Please find me a team that has done that this season over that same time period. Now the Tigers head to Seattle in a slump of sorts since they have lost 3 of their last 5 games. But they are 8-4 on the West Coast so far this season. The Tigers are a very interesting team. A team that should be taken seriously only because this team they can play 33-44 ( that is 11 games under .500 ) and STILL win 90 games. In fact, if they win 38 of their last 77 games they will win 95 games ( that is still under .500 ball ). Please tell me how many teams can play under .500 at this point of the season and still finish with 90 to 95 wins. I will save you the research. Only one team can play under .500 and get to 90. But they cannot get to 95 wins and still play under .500.
 
Goodieluver said:
I will simply state this: Who doesnt beat on the sCrUBS? There is a reason why they remain the joke of MLB with apathetic fans and being run by andy mcphail(fail) and will resume to be a doomed franchise till they get a new manager and dump the messiah(prior) and kerry "Balsa" Wood

I have to note, the Whitesox are only 1.5 games behind them and the Sox are currently 5-1 against the tigers this season. Teams can do whatever outside of the division but what counts most is interdivisional play and losing maroth aint helping them. Yes i am biased but it will be the sox owning the division again, with arguably the best 3-4-5 hitting combination in baseball with thome-konerko-dye.

As for good feeling, i wouldnt say this is late in the season, we're about a month away from the halfway point and right now they are breezing thru a real easy schedule with pujol-less st louis, houston is streaky but then pitt. The biggest part of the season will be july-aug when the sox play the tigers 12 times, that will determine the division

And to quote Sox grinder rule 71, "If at first you succeed, Repeat"
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I wonder how those White Sox are doing from 6 1/2 games behind? Repeat??? You will have to try to hold off the Yankees and Blue Jays to even make the playoffs. The Tigers certainly made their statement this week.
 
Goodieluver said:
Well, also must be mentioned, the entire NL got destroyed by the AL. Also, pujols came after a 15 day layoff with no swinging, so it takes some time to get that timing back

As for the tigers being real, i will address that with their record against the AL central or better, the record against the sox and twins
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Well I haven't heard you address anything after the Tigers beat the White Sox two out of three. I wonder why that is. I also wonder why the Tigers are leading the White Sox by 7 1/2 games. I wonder if has to do with Bonderman, Robertson, Minor , Verlander , Rogers and ,of course, Zumaya and the rest of the staff and team???
Or maybe Guillen is now pissing off his team with all the tantrums he is having publicly in the dugout.
 
ticklingfeet4fu said:
Well I haven't heard you address anything after the Tigers beat the White Sox two out of three. I wonder why that is. I also wonder why the Tigers are leading the White Sox by 7 1/2 games. I wonder if has to do with Bonderman, Robertson, Minor , Verlander , Rogers and ,of course, Zumaya and the rest of the staff and team???
Or maybe Guillen is now pissing off his team with all the tantrums he is having publicly in the dugout.
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and despite all that people still think the Tigers are a mirage. They will lose. Period. end of sentence

Besides, why is a Mets fan concerned about the Tigers?? 😱
 
natural tickler said:
and despite all that people still think the Tigers are a mirage. They will lose. Period. end of sentence

Besides, why is a Mets fan concerned about the Tigers?? 😱
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Just like the Cubs right??? It is 98 years and counting for them. I guess anyone can have a bad CENTURY though!!!

You are right, I am a Mets fan, but you are a Cubs fan. Why are you so concerned what I am posting about? :wow:
 
natural tickler said:
and despite all that people still think the Tigers are a mirage. They will lose. Period. end of sentence
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Of all people, YOU are the one stating this?!? You keep predicting the Cubs to go to the Series and I have yet to see THAT. With a team that is 35 games over 500, they're a mirage?!? The fans don't seem to think so. They're coming out and spending their money. The team keeps putting out and winning. I mean, really, Minnesota has been on a screaming winning streak and they can barely buy a break to catch the Tigers. They could play .500 ball and probably still make the play-offs with the numbers they have. Besides, I'd think you'd be happy for them since they're helping put the White Sox in a deeper hole. That is, unless you'd rather see the White Sox, your across-town rivals, go to the Series again?! 😕
 
sadira said:
Of all people, YOU are the one stating this?!? You keep predicting the Cubs to go to the Series and I have yet to see THAT. With a team that is 35 games over 500, they're a mirage?!? The fans don't seem to think so. They're coming out and spending their money. The team keeps putting out and winning. I mean, really, Minnesota has been on a screaming winning streak and they can barely buy a break to catch the Tigers. They could play .500 ball and probably still make the play-offs with the numbers they have. Besides, I'd think you'd be happy for them since they're helping put the White Sox in a deeper hole. That is, unless you'd rather see the White Sox, your across-town rivals, go to the Series again?! 😕
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No, I think people think its a mirage simply because last year they were 71-91. People thought they would improve, but not playing like this. It is hard for them to gauge which team they are watching. Even you at the beginning of the season did not think they would play like this. This is virtually the same team from last year, improving 55 games overnight. To me, this is too good to be true. They are a good team this year, but I do not believe you expected this. That is all I'm saying. And if it so happens that the across town rivals gets knocked out, great, that means the entire city if Chicago will be watching TV together. Please don't think I'm knocking your team, I am just simply trying to find out what team we are looking at

Hope that clears things, if not, oh well, I know I got it coming in October 😀
 
natural tickler said:
No, I think people think its a mirage simply because last year they were 71-91. People thought they would improve, but not playing like this. It is hard for them to gauge which team they are watching. Even you at the beginning of the season did not think they would play like this. This is virtually the same team from last year, improving 55 games overnight. To me, this is too good to be true. They are a good team this year, but I do not believe you expected this. That is all I'm saying. And if it so happens that the across town rivals gets knocked out, great, that means the entire city if Chicago will be watching TV together. Please don't think I'm knocking your team, I am just simply trying to find out what team we are looking at

Hope that clears things, if not, oh well, I know I got it coming in October 😀
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The only person I have heard call it a mirage is you. As far as what team you are looking at: You are looking at the team that has had the BEST RECORD IN BASEBALL since May 6th. That is what YOU are looking at and you can't change that as of July 29th. The Twins were the Tigers latest victims tonight in the Metrodome as the Tigers beat the Twins 3-2 in 10 innings. The Twins fall back into third place and 9 1/2 games behind the Tigers and the White Sox who beat Baltimore 6-4 remain 8 1/2 behind the frontrunning Tigers.
 
Yep, have to add a note here. Last year the Tigers were about the same team as this year with a couple of exceptions (Rogers and Granderson mostly). However, Guillen and Ordonez were both hurting, Pudge was having a rough time and they didn't have Leyland. They also didn't get Pilanco until later in the season. Now I won't say that I expected them to be where they are right now but I did expect them to be in the hunt for the playoffs. I think Kenny Rogers for his maturity and willingness to work with the younger players and Polanco and Granderson are certainly keys to this seasons success, but Jim Leyland is the big reason for the turn around. He has allowed the chemistry to develop and emphasised the basics, which is what baseball is and has always been about. I don't know what the future brings, but I know a good product when I see one, by talent alone, and thanks to TF4F and Sadira we got to see one first hand and they are as good as reported. It makes for a really fun year of following our local boys of summer. :cool2:
 
Just beat the Twins...again. Beat Liriano...again. That's twice in 10 days Miner has beaten Liraino.

76-36, 10 game lead. 50 games left, they can go 25-25, still have 101 wins, which would mean Chicago would have to go 35-15...that's awful tough.

This doesn't guarantee getting out of the first round of the playoffs, but I'm starting to feel better about our chances.
 
tckleguy said:
Just beat the Twins...again. Beat Liriano...again. That's twice in 10 days Miner has beaten Liraino.

76-36, 10 game lead. 50 games left, they can go 25-25, still have 101 wins, which would mean Chicago would have to go 35-15...that's awful tough.

This doesn't guarantee getting out of the first round of the playoffs, but I'm starting to feel better about our chances.
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You are right it does not gaureentee anything but the fact that the Tigers are young ( especially the pitching staff ) that gives you hope for a VERY bright future. Who knows maybe the Tigers can go on a 15 year run. It would be nice to see.
 
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