10 Things I Hate About Tickle Videos

[tcklft]

Oh, what the heck. Here's a pair o' peeves:

Lees who don't laugh. Call me whacky, but I'm drawn to a good laugh like a moth to the flame. To me a good laugh sounds like ha-ha or tee-hee, not oog, argh or skreeeee.

Nuttin' but m/f. I can certainly understand a producer wanting in on the action, but c'mon, guys, through me a frickin bone here. Women can tickle just as well as men, and look a hell of a lot better doing it too. Producing the occasional f/f clip won't kill you. And no, I don't want your sorry ass tickling the lee out of frame either. Get a life for fuck's sake.

There, now I feel better.

 

[jmsdarke]

I'd also like to end this note with a bit of surprise at the lack of hostility here. I'm rather impressed that it hasn't degenerated, as you said, into a shouting match.

Kudos to us. maybe we're learning to "use our words".

JD

 

[jmsdarke]

I'd rather hear nothing and see the awkward expression on a model's face, than listen to fake, coerced, obnoxious laughter that isn't even choreographed to the tickling.

I like your point here.

A ticklee struggling with contorted facial expression and a violently twisting body can be hot. At times it can even feel more authentic and true as though you're touching her ticklish soul, sometimes.

JD

 

[llllllll]

I like your point here.

A ticklee struggling with contorted facial expression and a violently twisting body can be hot. At times it can even feel more authentic and true as though you're touching her ticklish soul, sometimes.

JD

Amen bro.

 

[tophat]

11. Full clothing throughout the video

There are probably as many tastes and turn-offs as there are tickling fans. For many of you it seems to be nyloned feet. For me, an upper-body fan, it is not being allowed to see skin.

I don't need full frontal nudity. I don't need nudity throughout the whole clip. But some nudity is essential for me, or the clip is virtually pointless. Sort of like tickling someone and only see the laughing face.

So, producers, please don't forget about the skin. Start clothed if you want, but at some point undress the lee. At least partially.

I know that everybody don't think this is necessary and that "a sexy dress can be sexier than no dress", but for me it is an absolute requirement.

-tophat

 

[randomguy85]

Hmm, I would have to say all of the above as well as non stop, unnecessary commentary by the ticklers. Taunting and teasing is one thing, but when all you her is the tickler laughing mockingly louder than the ticklee and you hear them yelling "Woooooo! Woo HOOO! Weeee!" etc etc, I just want to say "Shut the fuck up!" No sir, I don't like it Taunting and teasing is one thing, but the tickler is most certainly not the focus, so stop upstaging the ticklee. Thats my 32 cents.

J J

 

[randomguy85]

There are probably as many tastes and turn-offs as there are tickling fans. For many of you it seems to be nyloned feet. For me, an upper-body fan, it is not being allowed to see skin.

I don't need full frontal nudity. I don't need nudity throughout the whole clip. But some nudity is essential for me, or the clip is virtually pointless. Sort of like tickling someone and only see the laughing face.

So, producers, please don't forget about the skin. Start clothed if you want, but at some point undress the lee. At least partially.

I know that everybody don't think this is necessary and that "a sexy dress can be sexier than no dress", but for me it is an absolute requirement.

-tophat

Ah, next time I should read previous responses too! Because I agree with the above comment of Tophat. I love women, and have a deep respect for their bodies. I see beauty in any woman. So when you take one of these beautiful creatures and have them in our beloved circumstance of tickling, it is just a damn shame to me to not see more of the woman. Now I'm not saying "Take it off! Take it off!" But I am saying "Work your way! Show some skin! But in time! Make us want it! " Etc etc. Some producers are all about "Non nude only" which is respectable, and some viewers are not fans of the flesh, to each their own I suppose. But I am, and I do agree with tophat; starting clothed and working to it, and it doesn't need to always be fully nude. But hell, it's like having sex with your cloths on... Boooooriiinnnngg. HA! That's all from me kiddies!

J J

 

[herodotusrexx]

a complaint about clip posts

Different people seem to want to see different things in clips and many people (myself included) are not interested in most of the clips that are posted. Tastes are very specific, at least for many it seems.

I wish there was a better way to narrow the search for what I am interested in seeing. Some standard set of information that would be present in every post that could be searched for and that would not yield false positives.

For instance, I click on "Search This Forum" and type in "topless OR nude or nudity" (I guess you can tell where tastes lie) and most of the posts that come up match because somebody says "I wish she were topless" in some reply to the original post.

It would save the users of this sight a lot of time downloading material they are not interested in and save the sight operator a lot of bandwidth costs that are now used to download clips that ultimately are not interesting to the downloader.

I suggest you producers come up with some standard form for your posts and work with the site webmaster to implement some sort of search system that does a better job of searching.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[jkb]

One peeve I have with videos (out of many) is producers' seeming reluctance to tickle any place but the armpits, stomach, and feet. What about the neck, legs, knees, etc.? I would especially love to see more breast and groin tickling.

I know that last part may be a bit hard at points and I'm not saying that producers should be sexually assaulting a girl. But I believe in "If it's bare, it's fair". If a girl is willing to get naked for the clip, then I can't believe she wouldn't be OK with having her breasts and privates tickled. It annoys me to see a girl tied up completely nude and watch as the tickler avoids her breasts as if there were cooties on them. I could see not touching any areas covered by clothing, obviously. Even not touching the breasts or groin of a girl in a bikini is perfectly A-OK with me (I would love to see more of it, don't get me wrong), but a completely naked girl? C'mooon........

Again, I'm not saying that a producer should violate a girl against her will or anything like that. Just that well, like I said: "If it's bare, it's fair". I'd rather see producers go by that.

 

[jmsdarke]

One peeve I have with videos (out of many) is producers' seeming reluctance to tickle any place but the armpits, stomach, and feet. What about the neck, legs, knees, etc.? I would especially love to see more breast and groin tickling....

I understand what you mean and have been working to address it myself. The way I'm dealing with it is I have all my models fill out the following online modeling form before they shoot with me:

http://www.esurveyspro.com/Survey.aspx?id=93ff0b17-ee3f-442c-9ba7-39d70998cbef

and by the way, I'm up to 33 models who've filled this out to shoot.

You can see that they specifically identify where they are comfortable to be tickled by a guy or a girl.

I'd strongly recommend other producers find some similar method. You can setup your own only form for free at eSurveysPro.com.

What I've found specifically with nipple tickling is that girls without breast implants are more likely to be ticklish on their nipples. However, for some girls, tickling on the nipples is instantly sexually arousing and makes them feel like they're shooting a porno.

So be advised that there are several sides to the private area tickling issue. As for necks and ears, not all are ticklish enough to produce (IMHO). When I shot Angela Ryan and Scarlette yesterday, both of their necks were very sensitive. When I've tickled other models there, I felt like my fingers were just dumb rubber chickens.

The groin usually gets a real rise if the clothing and pose give you the right access. That can make some ticklees ready to negotiate to give you their car in exchange for stopping the tickling.

JD

 

[LeeAllure]

Hey James,

This thread has so much useful information in it, it's hard to
know where to begin! I love the exchange of ideas, and
while I think it would be great if producers had their own
forum, it's good to have this feedback from viewers as well.

Thanks for starting it, and sharing some of your business
practices with us. I can see them becoming standard, in some
ways, among most tickling producers, especially the 10
things poll.

Lee

 

[mrmiguu]

No way to choose the MOST villainous transgression!

The guy keeps looking back into the camera
that one gets a dishonorable mention AND shouldn't be done!...by man
OR woman!!!

Bad (defective or lacking) bondage
Dang....read a book and practice....yes....this one is a bad one!!!

Fake ticklee reaction and response
....drawn and quartered......these felons should be drawn and
quartered!
....or at least put out of business!
Very little reaction from the tickle model
(see above)

Very poor lighting
....this one is rampant and I've contacted numerous new and old
producers letting them know I have produced and still teach video, but
to no avail.....friendly advice given free doesn't seem to fly out
here...

Really weak tickling technique
(see above above)....why do they even try....I don't get this one other
than the profit motive...which won't find much validation if they keep
up the shoddy work....but a bunch still do it....like they've never
touched a bare foot in their lives - before that shoot!

Thanks for putting it out there, jmsdarke! And if you talk to any of these producers...send them my way!!!

 

[jmsdarke]

Glad to see another video production professional here. I'll check in with you on my lighting peice to collaborate before I release it. This will written and include both photos and video as well as video tutorials for the post production processing.

JD

 

[jmsdarke]

.....friendly advice given free doesn't seem to fly out
here...

Angela Ryan and I were discussing that very issue yesterday. I'd love to see many tickle video producers making the kind of material rich in both content and production value that could help expand our customer base significantly beyond our small (but growing) community.

I imagine a much larger tickle video production community at least 10 times our current size with more than 20 times the customer base. This drives how I do what I do as a producer.

JD

 

[mrmiguu]

Please do that!

Glad to see another video production professional here. I'll check in with you on my lighting peice to collaborate before I release it. This will written and include both photos and video as well as video tutorials for the post production processing.

JD

Would love to hear from you....and share some ideas on lighting....looking foreward to seeing how it develops....I already suggested doing a video production class for people doing fetish videos to bring up the quality to a fetish event organizer....we'll see where that goes, but your work sounds like a great foundation for something like that. Again, looking forward to the connection.

 

[mrmiguu]

Great!

Angela Ryan and I were discussing that very issue yesterday. I'd love to see many tickle video producers making the kind of material rich in both content and production value that could help expand our customer base significantly beyond our small (but growing) community.

I imagine a much larger tickle video production community at least 10 times our current size with more than 20 times the customer base. This drives how I do what I do as a producer.

JD

I think the community needs better quality and has been asking for it...and deserves it. There are some new ways to move, I think, in solid directions. The customer base can be increased, I'm sure, with some of these improvements, some small tune-ups to vid quality and presentation.

OK, and one more thing......I have had just about enough of that perpetual-motion-camera-work....dang, like it's a music video or something...there's nothing like a well-composed, solid, well-lit shot of good tickle action....the action should be in the lee and ler, not in the camera movement.

 

[romandigits01]

Agree With Nearly All Of These Posted Sentiments

1.)I definitely do not like it when the Producer(usually male), feels that he needs to be in the camera shot, constantly looking into the camera-and detracting away from the ticklee-
More f/f is always good......

2.)Fake- assed ticklishness/Poor tickling/Non-ticklish models ("Oh Robert", "Oh Robert")....horrible, man, horrible.All in the same category to me.Don't ever think that because you as a producer thinks that "<em>This woman is so 'hot' it doesn't matter how ticklish she really is because all guys are doing are paddling their oars anyway out there......."</em>We all_____it's just the fake sh** is better left on the cutting room floor.

3.) Some verbal teasing is good, but there's a limit....I feel it's bad enough when the guy HAS to hog the scene by his presence alone----but on top of that having to say a bunch of stuff really ruins the privacy of my own thoughts......if you get my meaning.


Just my .02.......Good poll

 

[COOLCAT88]

I've purchased my fair share of clips over the years, so I guess I feel entitled to share my dislikes.
1. When someone's feet are being tickled, they should not be motionless. Even if someone isn't ticklish, and a producer doesn't care and shoots a tickling video with her anyway....for the love of God tell her to wiggle her feet around! Don't just sit there while someone furiously scrabbles their fingernails on your soles like your paralized from the waist down. Tickling is kind of like an action-reaction thing. I realize it may be tough finding ticklish models, but tell them to at least act like it. Please!

2. Plots. Any and all. Really, how many spies in the real world capture another one and tickle her? C'mon. Less talky, more tickly. No offense, but most of the storylines are so f-ing goofy, it takes away from the eroticism. Brief introduction are good, even casual conversation, but try to shy away from double agents and genies popping out of bottles. Remember, these are just opinions people. Other people may love cheesiness.

3. Forced laughter. I know for a fact that ticklish women do not ALWAYS laugh when tickled. One of my old flames of 4 years laughed the vast majority of the times I'd pin her down and give it to her, but if she was pissed or cranky, she would still react and wiggle, but she didn't always giggle. She just tried to get away. I'd rather hear nothing and see the awkward expression on a model's face, than listen to fake, coerced, obnoxious laughter that isn't even choreographed to the tickling.

There. I feel better. Sorry if I offended anyone, again, these are only opinions. I wish I was in a situation where I could produce my own videos. But I can't, so thanks to everyone who does. I hope this thread helps weed out people who are truly into the fetish, and chumps trying to steal money off of our perversion!


Dan

Yeah, that's a big one.

And going off on the plots, Put some more effort into them. For instance, If you're making a tickling video about spies, and you're the Tickler, and the victim, usually the Ticklee and female mostly, at least look the part.

 

[randomguy85]

Ah, that is where my opinion changes! I enjoy the plots. Not always though, I do agree that many are goofy and half assed. But when a worthwhile plot is incorporated, or even a short and sweet plot, it makes the clip more interesting for me. It gives it a purpose rather than BAM, girl tied to a table being tickled out of the blue. Everyone knows the biggest running joke is the acting in porno movies, you sit there and laugh at them. Cheesy plots in tickle films more make you sit there like this until the tickling starts. However a good plot, even if the acting is par or sub (though I'll admit I actually have seen some decent acting in several clips), those clips I eat up. But as was said before me, personal opinions.

J J

 

[jmsdarke]

On the issue of story based tickle videos, I approach it from two points of view when producing.

1. I've had more girls than guys recommend plots.

2. At a certain point, even I get a bit numbed to the no-plot 'just tickle the shit out of her' video clip.

To me, more than a plot is the matter of giving context to the tickling. I think that a well presented context can heighten the sense of fantasy fulfilled.

JD

 

[Darth Sidious]

Great points made! I will certainly keep these factors in mind (to the best of my ability) as I continue to produce. I share everyone's passion here... having grown up for years watching clips from here.... so in a way... I feel an obligation to give back better quality than what I had so that others may enjoy 🙂.

 

[marger]

The Thread I Waiting For

More f/f is always good......

....but, a lot of female actors feel good by posing/acting to the camera and don´t recognice that they are covering the tickelee and their reaction.

I hate that

marger

 

[dl99up]

Good poll man.
I'm probably going to be alone on this, but the main thing I hate is NUDITY!!!
I mean if I want porn, I'll go watch porn!! Tha'ts supposed to have skin in it.
I mean, when you pay to see tickling, you want TICKLING!!!! Handjobs, BJ's
and sex belong in SKIN VIDS!!!!
Again, it's just me, but I feel all that other crap should stay on the porno side
and leave us tickling lovers in peace.

I agree with most of the other things you put up to vote on too.
Give me pretty girls, pretty feet, and lots of laughter any day.

 

[Cif]

To be honest, if a guy is going to be doing the tickling, I'd much rather see a semi-attractive guy who isn't a complete 'tard doing the tickling because I get awkward watching the weird guys who do most of these videos, apologies to you all if you read. But if you're weird about it or goofy, you make me feel weird and that makes me feel uncomfortable. Just get a woman who actually knows how to tickle to do it

Screaming women, over the top bondage, gags and so much advertising because if you're trying to get me to buy your video, then show me what i am getting for my money.

However, I hate the most are videos where its purely somebody being tickled with something that buzzes stupidly because it doesn't interact the tickler into the proceedings and it absolutely boring and irritating to watch.

 

[LeeAllure]

However, I hate the most are videos where its purely somebody being tickled with something that buzzes stupidly because it doesn't interact the tickler into the proceedings and it absolutely boring and irritating to watch.

I totally agree, and would add the hairbrush rubbed on a foot.

And there are rare exceptions to a toy rule, but I like the
interaction as well, and I love knowing that *I* am causing
the reaction, not a piece of inert plastic. Even if it does move.

Lee