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[CarolinaTickler]

I'm sure most of you have heard this story by now, if not here is the link to it.

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=903780

Part of me is kind of angered by the fact that one team would disrespect another like that and keeping running the score up in the fourth quarter by using a full-court press and launching 3 pointers. But the other part of me feels that Dallas Academy should have been able to score some points and not get held to 0.

I wouldn't be annoyed by the running up the score part if these were professional athletes and I doubt I would be if these were college athlete who are rewarded with a scholarship, but we're talking about teenage girls at a school of just 20 people on a team of 8. None of those girls are on a scholarship to play for their school when the team hasn't won a game in 4 seasons. I don't blame the girls on the other team so much as I do their coach. Should the girls on the Covenant team thought to pull up some? Yeah sure, but I think it goes back to the coach still calling a full court press in the 4th and allowing them to shoot 3 pointers. Sports is about more than just winning. There is an element of sportsmanship (or sportswomanship should it be the case) that is involved and blowing a team out like that sends the wrong message.

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

It was on local news last night. The winning team has decided to forfeit game on account of good sportsmanship; Mark Cuban has invited the other team to a Mavs game and have a private suite

 

[CarolinaTickler]

I think them forfeiting the win is a nice gesture and if the opposing team accepts their apology (which I believe the report said they had), it should be the end of it. But knowing how most parents are, I'm sure this will lead to the coach being removed and blowing up the situation.

 

[Carsomyr]

What the shit??? There's no reason for them to forfeit the game! Sport is about WINNING! Blowouts happens, I mean so the other team obviously sucked bigtime... The winning team was having fun, nothing wrong with that. If the losing team sucked so much they could just have decided to lose on walkover.

Seriously, this is the bad side of "sportsmanship"... I know this was just some high school team, but you play a sport to WIN... People need to get into their heads that second place is first loser. Sportsmanship to me is about respecting your opponent, but you do that by always playing at your very best. Had the other team slowed down and started fooling around, that would have been a lot less sportsman-like IMO.

Whyyyyyy does the winning team have to appologize for being awesome??? 🙁

 

[maniactickler]

They should continue playing the game like they are supposed to. its not their fault they are great, or everyone else sucks.

 

[CarolinaTickler]

You play to win the game, not embarass your opponent who you were heavily favored against before the game began. This isn't like two fairly equal teams were playing each other and towards the end of the game one team decided to keep pushing under the fear their opponent might comeback. This was one team with only 8 players who hadn't won a game in 4 seasons getting routed by another team with a full varsity roster.

How is it respecting your opponent to play all out into the fourth quarter when you were already winning 55-0 at halftime? That isn't respect for your opponent at all, it is adding insult to injury. Especially when your opponent doesn't have a full roster and you are running a full-court press against them late in the 4th. Or when you are in the 4th quarter and you are still jacking up 3 pointers. "Playing hard" late in the game against an undermatched oppenent when you have the game won is called being a bully.

If the students at Dallas Academy had started to hard foul them or refused to shake their hands after the game that would be bad sportsmanship. Instead they stayed on the court and kept playing. To me that sounds like sportsmanship.

Again the fact remains, they are just high school girls. It isn't like this was for the state title or some huge prize where they should play their hardest and go all out the entire game. This was a game against an opponent that Covenant was highly favored against who hadn't won a game in multiple seasons. There is a big difference between playing hard and disrespecting your opponent by continuing to press the full game when they have yet to score.

I think that forfeiting the game was a proper gesture to show that you are sincere about your apology, but it wasn't necessary. All it would have taken was an apology. No one forced them to forfeit the game, they did so of their own choosing which makes the gesture and the apology seem more genuine.

 

[Goodieluver]

Game is not over till the buzzer

This forfeit issue makes me sick

Modern sports teaching has started to teach kids "its ok to lose"

Bullshit. Losing makes you better yourselves

I played 4 years on a last place little league team, my final year i tore up the field with hitting because i bettered myself

The whole "everybody is a winner" thing is sickening

Yeah, and theres TWO superbowl champions right? GMAFB

 

[Carsomyr]

Like the very enlightened fellow above me says, this type of behaviour only breeds a loser mentality.

Over here, pretty much every sport is swamped by it: "Oh yeah, it's nice to just be here, it's participating that counts!"

Bullshit.

Sucks for the losing team, but hey that's sports for ya. There's always a winner and a loser... If you can't take it, then don't play. Sports = Competition, I wouldn't hesitate to crush the opposing team in the exact same way.

Edit: Granted, I probably wouldn't have been able to keep my motivation up like this team did. But just because they did that doesn't make it bad sportsmanship. Such a big win could also send a message to the other teams they might face in the future: "We never stop, we are the unbeatable machine" or whatever.

 

[Goodieluver]

Should the NFL apologize for the lions sucking in the NFL this season and let them play the superbowl?

 

[Carsomyr]

Should the NFL apologize for the lions sucking in the NFL this season and let them play the superbowl?

...wrong sport for me! 😀

But people were ripping on Team Sweden in last years Hockey World Juniors, just because they beat Denmark with 10-1...

So by that logic, Team Canada should have forfeited this years wins against Khazakhstan, Germany and the Czech Republic, and thus play in the relegation round rather than winning the gold medal? Again, NO! They should just keep bringing their A-game, and wait for the other teams to catch up... they shouldn't start playing crappy too.

More on topic though: The fact that these were kids are in high school makes it even more acceptable IMO. Seriously, let the kids have some fun, they're young and passionate! I guess the other team didn't enjoy it much, but again, they must obviously enjoy playing on some level, or they wouldn't just keep at it.

 

[CarolinaTickler]

Your analogy with the Lions doesn't work because a lot of teams did pull up when they had a huge lead against them. Also, as I already stated, you are talking about a group of professionals who are paid to play football. These are teenage girls playing for their high school team. Also, there is a level of fair competition in the NFL, every year there is a draft where the worst team gets the first pick overall and you are able to go out in free agency and purchase players. Again, these are high school kids. The one school, Covenant, has 4 times as many students as Dallas Academy. Covenant has a JV girls team and a Varsity girls team whereas Dallas doesn't have enough players to have a full girls varsity squad and were only playing with 8 people.

Like I have said, no one asked them to forfeit the game. They did so of their own choosing. Do I personally think they should have forfeited? No, but I understand why they did and I think the gesture was appropriate to show the apology was sincere.

 

[Goodieluver]

Your analogy with the Lions doesn't work because a lot of teams did pull up when they had a huge lead against them. Also, as I already stated, you are talking about a group of professionals who are paid to play football. These are teenage girls playing for their high school team. Also, there is a level of fair competition in the NFL, every year there is a draft where the worst team gets the first pick overall and you are able to go out in free agency and purchase players. Again, these are high school kids. The one school, Covenant, has 4 times as many students as Dallas Academy. Covenant has a JV girls team and a Varsity girls team whereas Dallas doesn't have enough players to have a full girls varsity squad and were only playing with 8 people.

Like I have said, no one asked them to forfeit the game. They did so of their own choosing. Do I personally think they should have forfeited? No, but I understand why they did and I think the gesture was appropriate to show the apology was sincere.

The patriots the past 2-4 years have been point snobs and have delib ran up scores on teams, having brady pass over the field when up 20 or more and going for 2 pt conversions.

Even Belichek said, you play to win

 

[CarolinaTickler]

The patriots the past 2-4 years have been point snobs and have delib ran up scores on teams, having brady pass over the field when up 20 or more and going for 2 pt conversions.

Even Belichek said, you play to win

Again, you are comparing professional athletes to high school girls. It isn't an equal analogy. One group is making hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to perform the best they can at their job, the other group is young girls whose primary job is to be a student and get no compensation for how well they play. Also, as I previously stated, in the NFL every team gets a draft pick each year and is able to sign players in free agency. These were high school teams where one school had a clear advantage over the other because they are essentially 4 times larger than they are. Also there is a difference between 100-0 in basketball and 52-7 (the patriots largest margin of victory last year). In one scenario you have a team that went scoreless and in the other Belicheck did pull his starters toward the end of the game. You analogy just doesn't hold up.

You also bring up another point. All those times the Patriots were running up the score on people, you heard talk of players possibly trying to take out Tom Brady. That's the reverse side of running the score up on someone. You run the risk of embarassing the other team and them deciding to take it out on you physically. That is just an unwritten rule of sports. You don't embarass your oppenent or they may send in a goon and try to hurt one of your players.

Also, no offense because you may be a Pats fan, but the majority of Americans feel that Belicheck is a classless ass who wouldn't even shake Eric Mangini's hand after a loss. I think the fact that Bill Belicheck feels it is ok to run the score up and embarass an opponent kind of proves my point with the ammount of class he tends to show out on the field. 🙂

 

[maniactickler]

This political correctness crap sickens me. too many bleeding heart liberals out there. if they could have won 200-0 then so be it. i think the team that scored 0 points should have quit for being so shitty and non competitive. this is the real world!

 

[McNoodle]

What I would of loved to have seen is after the first half, have the losing team forfeit (if willing) and then merge the two teams together to play the 2nd half for fun and friendship building. That way the proper team still won, the game isn't a huge blowout and it shows the true meaning of highschool sports imo.

 

[Goodieluver]

Again, you are comparing professional athletes to high school girls. It isn't an equal analogy. One group is making hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to perform the best they can at their job, the other group is young girls whose primary job is to be a student and get no compensation for how well they play. Also, as I previously stated, in the NFL every team gets a draft pick each year and is able to sign players in free agency. These were high school teams where one school had a clear advantage over the other because they are essentially 4 times larger than they are. Also there is a difference between 100-0 in basketball and 52-7 (the patriots largest margin of victory last year). In one scenario you have a team that went scoreless and in the other Belicheck did pull his starters toward the end of the game. You analogy just doesn't hold up.

You also bring up another point. All those times the Patriots were running up the score on people, you heard talk of players possibly trying to take out Tom Brady. That's the reverse side of running the score up on someone. You run the risk of embarassing the other team and them deciding to take it out on you physically. That is just an unwritten rule of sports. You don't embarass your oppenent or they may send in a goon and try to hurt one of your players.

Also, no offense because you may be a Pats fan, but the majority of Americans feel that Belicheck is a classless ass who wouldn't even shake Eric Mangini's hand after a loss. I think the fact that Bill Belicheck feels it is ok to run the score up and embarass an opponent kind of proves my point with the ammount of class he tends to show out on the field. 🙂

I dispise the pats(as well as majority of the afc) but i dont hate him for showing how good his team is.

Should the 85 bears apologize for being the shit kickers they were that season and holding the falcons to negative yards?

Its the principle. In modern times kids are being taught "everybody wins"
Second place is ok, etc etc

You learn from losing

and now more bullshit, the HS fired the coach

 

[CarolinaTickler]

We keep going back to this, they are not pro athletes. These are teenage girls. There is a huge difference between a job and a game of high school basketball. Every year teams are given the chance to compete through the draft and free agency. These were 2 high school teams where one school has more than 4 times the number of students than the other and the larger school has a JV and Varsity team. The comparision between high school girls playing basketball and people playing for money as a job doesn't work. Should the two teams have even been playing one another? No probably not, but the fact remains that they did play one another and they other team ran the score up.

The girls who played for Covenant should be thankful that the Dallas team didn't start to hard foul them once it got out of hand. It's in poor taste to run the score up on an opponent like that.

No one is disputing that they shouldn't have lost the game. Losing does help breed character and no one has a problem that they kept score in the game and one team outscored the other. The problem stems from the fact that they had the game won before halftime and they continued to run up the score. No one is making an issue out of the fact that one team won and one team lost. I coach for 5 and 6 year olds and the YMCA won't keep score, but the kids still know who won and who lost and they want you tell them what the score is. Winning and losing is never the issue. It is the fact that there is right way to win and a wrong way. Running up the score to an 100 point win and embarassing an inferior oppenent is not the right way to win.

I don't think the coach should have been fired for running the score up but I personally think the only reason he was fired was because he wouldn't toe the line that the school had set. I think it was more of an issue of not abidding by the statement the school had made, and if that is the case he should be fired because the school is his employer and he desented from the public statement they put out.

 

[maniactickler]

Kids are the ones that need to experience the difference between winning and losing, not professionals. this is a life lesson.

 

[Goodieluver]

We keep going back to this, they are not pro athletes. These are teenage girls. There is a huge difference between a job and a game of high school basketball. Every year teams are given the chance to compete through the draft and free agency. These were 2 high school teams where one school has more than 4 times the number of students than the other and the larger school has a JV and Varsity team. The comparision between high school girls playing basketball and people playing for money as a job doesn't work. Should the two teams have even been playing one another? No probably not, but the fact remains that they did play one another and they other team ran the score up.

The girls who played for Covenant should be thankful that the Dallas team didn't start to hard foul them once it got out of hand. It's in poor taste to run the score up on an opponent like that.

No one is disputing that they shouldn't have lost the game. Losing does help breed character and no one has a problem that they kept score in the game and one team outscored the other. The problem stems from the fact that they had the game won before halftime and they continued to run up the score. No one is making an issue out of the fact that one team won and one team lost. I coach for 5 and 6 year olds and the YMCA won't keep score, but the kids still know who won and who lost and they want you tell them what the score is. Winning and losing is never the issue. It is the fact that there is right way to win and a wrong way. Running up the score to an 100 point win and embarassing an inferior oppenent is not the right way to win.

I don't think the coach should have been fired for running the score up but I personally think the only reason he was fired was because he wouldn't toe the line that the school had set. I think it was more of an issue of not abidding by the statement the school had made, and if that is the case he should be fired because the school is his employer and he desented from the public statement they put out.

Competition is competition

College athletes compete just as hard if not more than pro
High school athletes compete hard as well

Blame the director who scheduled the game.

 

[kis123]

All of this testosterone......geez! Time to inject a little estrogen in the mix and calm some of you down.

My daughter has been playing basketball since she was 10; she played at school, intramurals, and traveling leagues from middle school to college where she now plays NCAA. She was taught by EVERY coach that is is unprofessional and unsportsmanlike to run the score up the way this team did. That was ridiculous for a coach/professional to do. This is one of the reasons why these players get to the pros and act crazy; no one ever taught them any manners along the way!!

Now that I said all that........I do NOT believe that it was necessary to apologize. The team only did what the coach said and that's what they're supposed to do. The other team was obviously overwhelmed if they couldn't score one point, but still, that's not the other teams' fault.

I hope the coach has learned a lesson; salt in an open would is overkill! This is high school and these girls aren't getting a dime to play. I wish those of you who keep comparing this to professional athletes realize that that's an apples to hand grenades comparison-you just can't compare the two equally.

My .02 cents on this-may the tomato throwing begin!

 

[Goodieluver]

All of this testosterone......geez! Time to inject a little estrogen in the mix and calm some of you down.

My daughter has been playing basketball since she was 10; she played at school, intramurals, and traveling leagues from middle school to college where she now plays NCAA. She was taught by EVERY coach that is is unprofessional and unsportsmanlike to run the score up the way this team did. That was ridiculous for a coach/professional to do. This is one of the reasons why these players get to the pros and act crazy; no one ever taught them any manners along the way!!

Now that I said all that........I do NOT believe that it was necessary to apologize. The team only did what the coach said and that's what they're supposed to do. The other team was obviously overwhelmed if they couldn't score one point, but still, that's not the other teams' fault.

I hope the coach has learned a lesson; salt in an open would is overkill! This is high school and these girls aren't getting a dime to play. I wish those of you who keep comparing this to professional athletes realize that that's an apples to hand grenades comparison-you just can't compare the two equally.

My .02 cents on this-may the tomato throwing begin!

The first time the team let up is when they were up 24-0
Now by this time i assume scrub players were put in to get playing time they prob rarely get. Assuming they use the entire shotclock and score, they will still rack up alot of points.

The winning team also only scored 12 points in the 4th quarter

And i tend to listen to the vince lombardi philosophy
"If you lose, you're out of the family"

and some of the pro's are now being indoctrinated with the "Everybody is a winner" standard and that losing with grace is almost better than winning in glory.

 

[maniactickler]

All of this testosterone......geez! Time to inject a little estrogen in the mix and calm some of you down.

My daughter has been playing basketball since she was 10; she played at school, intramurals, and traveling leagues from middle school to college where she now plays NCAA. She was taught by EVERY coach that is is unprofessional and unsportsmanlike to run the score up the way this team did. That was ridiculous for a coach/professional to do. This is one of the reasons why these players get to the pros and act crazy; no one ever taught them any manners along the way!!

Now that I said all that........I do NOT believe that it was necessary to apologize. The team only did what the coach said and that's what they're supposed to do. The other team was obviously overwhelmed if they couldn't score one point, but still, that's not the other teams' fault.

I hope the coach has learned a lesson; salt in an open would is overkill! This is high school and these girls aren't getting a dime to play. I wish those of you who keep comparing this to professional athletes realize that that's an apples to hand grenades comparison-you just can't compare the two equally.

My .02 cents on this-may the tomato throwing begin!

This is the problem! the school system is filled with bleeding heart liberals! no wonder why this country is falling apart!

 

[kis123]

Thanks for reminding me how glad I am God made me female......... I truly hope some of you never become parents. Look out for the world if you do!

 

[CarolinaTickler]

Competition is competition

College athletes compete just as hard if not more than pro
High school athletes compete hard as well

Blame the director who scheduled the game.

There is a difference between competition and running up the score. The game wasn't even competative after half-time. When that happens it is no long competition, it is called being classless.

I do partially blame the directors for scheduling a game where you have one school that is 4 times smaller than the other with only about 20 girls in the entire high school.

However, there is a difference between Pro Athletes and High School students. Just like there is a difference between high school students and college athletes especially because college athletes are compensated for their play with scholarships. I personally don't think you should ever run the score up on an opponent because it shows a lack of class, but I can understand it more when athletics is your job.

 

[The Fallen Angel]

you play to win and dont appoligize for it, ever heard the phrase run it up and leave no doubt. That is what they did and they shouldnt appoligize for being the better team, no matter what level