911 perpetrated by our own government?

[barney_rebel]

Folks;

Watch this video.

Seriously.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5239334224660559722&q=911+in+plane

It's a great vid that doesn't have a lot of speculation, just fact.

Also, I don't know how real this is, but also check out the video that shows up in the playlist on the right side of the page - "Judicial Watch Pentagon Plane Crash from September 11 - 9/11 - Video #1". Watch the explosion.

It just doesn't seem like a plane any bigger than a single-engine Cesna could cause that small of an explosion and leave almost no debri. Play from about 1:20, it's a static image up until then.

I'm not a conspiracy freak, just have an open mind... but those two vids, especially the first, is pretty damn compelling.

Tell me what you guys think.

I haven't seen 9-11 in Plane Sight yet, but from what Iread, they have some of their facts wrong, pointed out from this site: http://www.911truth.org/

A good move to definately watch is this one:

http://www.wkjo.com/

 

[barney_rebel]

Three more posts to go...

Now how about World Trade Center #7?
The mysterious cell phone calls from Flight #93?
The NORAD drills and the Pentagon mix-up?
The shady background of Mohommed Atta?
Who killed John O'Neil?

 

[Timewarp]

I'm not asking you to believe, I'm just asking you to pay attention. IF another "terrorist" attack is launched on the US, and IF they use it as an excuse to change the democratic nature of this country, what then?

We kick some ass, that's what. We didn't take it at Pearl Harbor, we won't take it now. And Vlad you have the best commentary ever, in fact that statement about this posters possibly being a terrorist led me to this joke. If he is one, he's really hitting the bottom of the barrel at this site.

 

[MistressValerie1]

Ban_gay, you need to send an e-mail to the forum owner at [email protected] but because he is very busy, it would be faster for you simply to create a new account with the name you want.

 

[Journia]

But Bengay needs to be rubbed on 😉

But the concept of it is....rubbed on what?

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

We kick some ass, that's what. We didn't take it at Pearl Harbor, we won't take it now. And Vlad you have the best commentary ever, in fact that statement about this posters possibly being a terrorist led me to this joke. If he is one, he's really hitting the bottom of the barrel at this site.

This thread is so old I can't remember what I said for sure, and seeing how it's been revived, I'm not so sure I want to go read through all of that again...

What I said initially still stands:

"I flushed my toilet that day, while, in the process of yawning. I'm sure that somehow this all figures into it, and is ultimately responsible for 9/11."- Count Vladislaus Dracula

 

[Journia]

Meow.

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

Ok, I couldn't help myself. I read through it again just for the hell of it. I still think what I said in my second post makes alot more sense than the jackass who think he's proving something or making a difference by making this video.

It's admirable that you'd want to expose a truth, but it's based far too much in conspiracy for it to begin to even be taken seriously.

The only thing this guy has going for him (the guy that made the video) is that it's all really believable at a glance, but falls apart under it's own weight upon closer inspection.

This isn't to say America isn't capable of commiting such an atrocity upon it's own people, but that it would not need to in order to invade Iraq or do anything else in the Middle East in a forceful or police-like manner.

We invade countries because we can. Period. I know that doesn't make it right, but we sure has hell don't have to sacrifice our own people as a counterfeit to make things happen. That would make us no better than the terrorist swine.

And last time I checked, we weren't exactly feeding out of a trough.

 

[Paradoxical]

The only thing this guy has going for him (the guy that made the video) is that it's all really believable at a glance, but falls apart under it's own weight upon closer inspection.

How so?

 

[Celtic_Emperor]

How so?

Because it's all speculation and flashy bits of this and that using real world knowledge to impress an unsuspecting, often ignorant audiance. He didn't provide anything concrete. It's just conjecture and clever clip blending and preying on the paranoia of conspiracy theorists. I'll give it to him, he made a nice video, but I didn't care for his tone of voice. He seemed TOO sure of himself, as if he somehow magically has the scoop and truth that we all don't, and that quickly put me off. He seemed proud of what he had done. Wow....thank you mysterious internet person! Thank you for opening my eyes! *sarcasm*

I could have done the same thing, and I wouldn't have been any more right because I made a video for it. He just wanted some attention and to stir the pot, and it's a shame you'd have to use the blood of the 9/11 victims to do it.

Completely shameful and shameless.

 

[Journia]

Uh oh....I am going to start the bomb shelter again.

 

[Betchass1]

Man, the think tank eggheads at our Universities need to put their time to better use. Terrorists were responsible for the 9/11 attacks not our government. The only thing we did wrong was to not come down on them even harder than we did. Terrorist groups will NEVER change the democratic form of government we enjoy in this country no matter what political party holds the White House, Congress, or the Senate. That's because while we might have our differences ALL Americans cherish freedom and most of us will defend it anywhere. That will be especially true if we ever have to do it on our own shores. I just wonder if any of the eggheads who wrote that article ever wore the uniform of one of the branches of our military, I would be willing to bet NONE of them did.

60% US voter turnout in 2004, and that's an upswing. Non-presidential vote years are typically FORTY percent. Democracy means nothing to Americans. We defend it while discarding it.

Think about that. The people holding checks and balances over the president were chosen by 40% of the eligible voters in the USA.