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911 perpetrated by our own government?

I agree that we live in a f*ed up world 🙁 I often talk about politics with fellow activists or very close friends, but I don't usualy discuss it with casual aquaintances or on non-political message boards (especially here, lol) because it's hard to sway opinions online and it can tend to alienate people.
 
Dunno how I found this post. Just so people know.

There is pretty hard core proof that The Bush Administration knew the terriorst attacks were coming, and many other countries have already tried to have George Bush tried in international court. Not terriorsts, other countries of the U.N. Germany was the main backer of this, although there were others.

It's also interesting to note that, laws were passed after 9/11 that had no chance to pass before 9/11. For example, did you know that you can now be arrested without a trial?. Your phone lines can be tapped, and your house can be entered without prior knowledge, or a warrant?.

Just so you know. I'm sure i'll get spammed with hate because of it. It's the truth though people, I can show you if you want.

You're welcome to argue it with me if you want. [email protected].
 
there is quite a bit of evidence to suggest that the towers were collapsed in a controlled demolition (with explosives), the evidence of this is

a)If u look at the close up videos of the towers collapsing (there isn't many due to fix news etc) you'll see that there are explosions around multiple support areas straight before they collapsed

b)Whilst a) could have been due to the attack caused by the planes, the actual fire in both towers went out before they collapsed.

c) the towers fell with the maximum gravity possible, which can only be achieved through explosives

d) wtc 7, the building next to the twin towers also collapsed due to "small fires" (due to the official report) how does a building collapse due to small fires?

e) the support beams from the wreckage were recycled as soon as possible and only $600,000 dollars spent on the investigation into their collapse (whereas millions on bill clinton fucking an intern)

whilst i am still unsure on this theory there is no doubt in my mind that they knew about this and it is likely that the pentagon attack was not a terrorist attack. i believe this because

a) the damage done to the building was minor compared to other 757 crashes that have happened in history - the damage itself did not match the size of the plane
b) despite the damage to the building being minor the government claim that the plane and it's passengers vaporised which explains why no bodies were found however they reckon they found traces of dna in the wreckage (convenient eh?)
c) the actual footage showing the attack on the pentagon by a cctv camera shows the date 12th sept 2001 - a day after the actual attack
d) the pictures released by the government were from a cctv camera that apparantly went at 100 frames per second and was blurred in order to hide the identity of whatever hit the pentagon - there are no cctv cameras that go at 100 frames per second and even tho if the frames are put together the footage is still "laggy". the speed of the footage also shows that the explosion upwards was going at 6000 miles per hour (is 6000 mph realistic? i dont think so)
e) only minor wreckage was found however about 60 tons of wreckage should have been recovered
f) the section that was hit was evacuated before the attack
g) in a later interview rumsfeld accidentally sed the pentagon was hit by a missile
h) reports from radar staff say that an american military aircraft was flying behind the object that hit the pentagon - the type of aircraft used to control Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in combat

in my honest opinion (and i dont mean to offend anyone by this) that 9/11 to bush was what the reichstag fire was to adolf hitler - in the 1930's hitler used the burning down of the reichstag parliament building to bring in his enabling act that allowed him to persecute opposition parties and later jews. I believe that (and i think it's absolutely sick) bush just sees 9/11 as an excuse to wage his "war on terror" which is really for personal gain, which has taken thousands of innocent lives (even the official figure shows more than tenfold the bodycount of 9/11) and ironically made the west a more likely target for terrorists.

a final thought for the readers - with iraq george bush claimed that he suspected that iraq had wmd's (which they didnt) so invaded them, another justification was the disgusting persecution on iraqi people by saddam hussein. Now if these were the only reasons why not invade a country which has a) concentration camps b) threatened the west with nuclear war c) neighbouring a friendly country and has also threatened that. well that country does exist and it's called north korea, the reason bush didnt invade that was because it is not a muslim state so therefore the 9/11 attacks could not be linked to them, and also because north korea has no oilfields (do not forget that DICK cheney used to be the director of Halliburton oil)

please excuse grammar as i am typing fast

p.s - the fbi definition of "terrorism is as follows -

the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

well this seems to me what george bush has done to iraq, surely that makes him a terrorist, and if he's a terrorist then it doesnt surprise me if he let 9/11 happen
 
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John D. Schmidt said:
Man, the think tank eggheads at our Universities need to put their time to better use. Terrorists were responsible for the 9/11 attacks not our government. The only thing we did wrong was to not come down on them even harder than we did. Terrorist groups will NEVER change the democratic form of government we enjoy in this country no matter what political party holds the White House, Congress, or the Senate. That's because while we might have our differences ALL Americans cherish freedom and most of us will defend it anywhere. That will be especially true if we ever have to do it on our own shores. I just wonder if any of the eggheads who wrote that article ever wore the uniform of one of the branches of our military, I would be willing to bet NONE of them did.
T'is what you think my man....T'is what you think...
 
ban_gay, all your life? Just joking...hmm...interesting essay.
Yes...I am a fast reader.
 
Journia said:
ban_gay, all your life? Just joking...hmm...interesting essay.
Yes...I am a fast reader.

Long story on that one (need my damn member name changed because it was a typo when I first registered 😀)
 
I am trying to help you get pming. You have to get to eleven posts then you can do it after about an hour or so. Hit me back.
 
Journia said:
I am trying to help you get pming. You have to get to eleven posts then you can do it after about an hour or so. Hit me back.

9/11 is a touchy subject. No one ever wants to believe their own government could be a) involved b) negligent.
 
But got to head to bed though - tomorrow is a new day.

Time to think of a new member name... ugh this name sucks!
 
yeah, that one'll get you lots of enemies. And also a lot of teasers....heh...
Bayer...all my life...tylenol....all my life.....bengay.....all my life.....hehe....Good night.
 
Folks;

Watch this video.

Seriously.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5239334224660559722&q=911+in+plane

It's a great vid that doesn't have a lot of speculation, just fact.

Also, I don't know how real this is, but also check out the video that shows up in the playlist on the right side of the page - "Judicial Watch Pentagon Plane Crash from September 11 - 9/11 - Video #1". Watch the explosion.

It just doesn't seem like a plane any bigger than a single-engine Cesna could cause that small of an explosion and leave almost no debri. Play from about 1:20, it's a static image up until then.

I'm not a conspiracy freak, just have an open mind... but those two vids, especially the first, is pretty damn compelling.

Tell me what you guys think.
 
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Dang...that is graphic....so close to reality....i love it....Must have more.
 
Journia said:
Dang...that is graphic....so close to reality....i love it....Must have more.


Um... dude. I posted that at 11:48, you replied at 11:50. there's no way you could have watched it in that span of time.
 
I was actually referring to the clips of the planes hitting the WTC buildings...very close to reality. I love it.
 
Tranquil shot, before anything of note:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9977/1sw1.jpg

There's something approaching from the right - It's difficult to make out. But, there's no way it can be the nose of a plane, it's WAY too thin:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9937/2cf6.jpg

The first frame of the eplosion. There is what appears to be some kind of contrail following the path of... whatever it was. Again, way too small to be a plane. Aside from this, I don't see any wreckage at all:http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/903/4qx1.jpg
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3154/3rf7.jpg

Next frame. Same conclusions as above:
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/903/4qx1.jpg

I got these shots from another video I found at the link I gave y'all in my previous post - This vid is titled " Judicial Watch Pentagon Plane Crash from September 11 - 9/11 - Video #2" and you can find it on that page. It was allegedly taken from a security camera that records every other frame, which is why the sequential frames seem discontiguous.

Is there something I'm just not seeing, here??
 
ban_gay said:
But got to head to bed though - tomorrow is a new day.

Time to think of a new member name... ugh this name sucks!
You'd have to send the owner an e-mail at [email protected] but because he is very busy, it would be easier to just create a new account with the name you want.
 
Without reading all the replies I may reiterate some items. There is no possible way controlled demolitions could be set up to withstand the heat of the jet fuel fires as long as the towers did stand. The FAA was ramping up security with it's usual speed, remember the FAA is tasked with both security and helping the airlines survive. The military was already preparing for a desert war in the summer of 2001 to deal with alqueda (sp) they knew something was coming but not what. Last but not least let us remember that it was the 8 years of Clinton that shrank the military, CIA, NSA, and FAA budgets making it more difficult to track the threats. Sorry for the rants but everyone who say's the Bush was in the wrong forgets he was only President for 9 months when this happened.
 
Journia said:
yeah, that one'll get you lots of enemies. And also a lot of teasers....heh...
Bayer...all my life...tylenol....all my life.....bengay.....all my life.....hehe....Good night.

But Bengay needs to be rubbed on 😉
 
Papabear said:
Without reading all the replies I may reiterate some items. There is no possible way controlled demolitions could be set up to withstand the heat of the jet fuel fires as long as the towers did stand. The FAA was ramping up security with it's usual speed, remember the FAA is tasked with both security and helping the airlines survive. The military was already preparing for a desert war in the summer of 2001 to deal with alqueda (sp) they knew something was coming but not what. Last but not least let us remember that it was the 8 years of Clinton that shrank the military, CIA, NSA, and FAA budgets making it more difficult to track the threats. Sorry for the rants but everyone who say's the Bush was in the wrong forgets he was only President for 9 months when this happened.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Danger
 
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