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A question for Marines

ShiningIce

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Ok, I am SERIOUSLY thinking about joining the marines after talking to a friend who is one. I'm just a little foggy on what IT water training is and the gas chamber. Could a Marine please elaborate??? Thanx
 
If you're serious about it, then go for it, man. I'm not sure I understand you, correctly, though. IT water training? I think you're combining two things. IT is an abbreviation for something with several names. Individual training, "Incentive" training, etc. Simply put, this is what the drill instructors do with you when you screw up. Keep in mind, it's nothing abusive, just a lot of calisthenics that will cause you to leave a puddle of sweat on the floor of the squadbay, or get sand caked on you when you're out in the "pit". You won't typically see this sort of thing after boot camp, though, unless you belong to a unit full of hard-asses.

The water training you go through is your swim qualification, which isn't too hard, depending on how far you wish to go. I can't really tell you what's required beyond WS-4(the minimum required to qualify), since I'm not exactly what you'd call a great swimmer. At the basic level, you'll have to swim for 25 meters (not hard at all), jump off a 10 ft high (I think) diving board in the proper position(arms crossed over your chest with both hands clasping your blouse and crossing your ankles after you jump.), and then you have to perform 3 different exercises. This first is treading water for 2 minutes (this is where I get tired, because I have little buoyancy.). After that, the next one (I forget what it's called.) involves leaning forward in a sort of "deadman's float" position(It's a position they teach you in case you're stranded in water to prevent you from drowning), under water for a minute(if I remember correctly.), but you can come up for quick breaths, as long as you do it correctly(there's a particular way you have to come up.). I've had some problems with this when I did it right after treading water, because I was out of breath. Once they let me catch my breath, I didn't have any problems with this. Finally, the last one for basic qualification is the fun one: the blouse inflation. At the start, you're in the water holding the side of the pool. Once they say "Go," you take a deep breath, go under water, grabbing both corners of your collar, blow all the air from your lungs into the collar of your blouse, and then clasp the collar of your blouse tightly to your body, so as not to let air escape. If you've done it correctly, your shoulders will be inflated, and you'll be floating. You have to stay like this for an allotted amount of time (a minute or two, I think.).

As far as the gas chamber goes, it's gonna suck your first time. It's CS gas, which to say the least, is not pleasant at all. It will cause all the snot in your nose to liquify and drip everywhere, your whole face will burn, and after you're done, if you take a leak, do NOT hold your dick to do it! The gas chamber, overall, is not THAT bad, though. It's only bad if you panic. The way it works is that they'll have everyone walk inside single-file, with their gas masks on, until all four walls have people lined-up facing the center of the room. Once everyone is ready, they'll tell you to close your eyes, take a deep breath, hold it, and then break the seal of your mask by sticking two fingers into the side. They'll have you holding this position for about 10 seconds. Then they'll tell you to reseal and clear your mask. Next, they'll ask you to close your eyes and hold your breath, and then pull the mask up onto the top of your head, and you'll hold it there for about 10 seconds (Don't open your eyes!). After this is done and you redon and clear your mask, they'll tell you to close your eyes, take a deep breath and hold it, and then completely remove your mask and hold it out in front of you (This is where people begin to spaz, or they make the mistake of breathing.). This will be done for about 10 seconds, unless someone spazzes and tries to make a run for the door. This is when the drill instructors and/or the NBC (Nuclear-Biological-Chemical) personnel spear-tackle the foolish individual, who is no doubt more miserable than ever. This can cause a delay here and there. Keep in mind, though, this is only in boot camp. Once you're at an actual duty station, you only have to do swim qualification and the gas chamber once a year, and it's nowhere near as "nazi-istic" as it is in boot camp. The last time I was in the gas chamber, we were wearing complete MOPP gear, and all they had us do was break the seal.

Like I said, man, if you're serious about it, go for it. In particular, I recommend the 2800 field for an MOS, but hey, I'm biased. If you've got any other questions, let me know.
 
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To bend and thrust and kick up dust,
Hi-ho, hi-ho hi-ho hi-ho!

Bends and thrusts are good for you,
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It's called THRASHING, Dude! We had the "Silent Thrash Team" in our platoon!

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Rxx
 
how easy would it be for a marine to take down 3 BIG BUFF rednecks in a bar????
 
Damn, I wish I could join the Corps!

By the way, with my new short hair cut, my work colleagues tell me I look like a spitting image of Private Pile from Full Metal Jacket. Come to think of it, there is one police sergeant I'd like to blow away.........:devil:
 
only 3 red necks?

once you are a marine, you'll swagger in there and tell them to get help, lol. and you'll mean it! you'll get your ass kicked, but you won't mind, cause you'll have been getting your ass kick by profesinals in boot camp, lol
wait till you've been in for a few years before you start trying to settle old scores. get some experperience first. then lay the assholes out!
steve
 
Talked to Marine recruiter today hes got me pumped, as soon as I get back to cali I'm enlisting. He told me that the Marines have been covering the Armie's ass since day one. I wonder what Areenactor has to say about this..........
 
ShiningIce said:
Talked to Marine recruiter today hes got me pumped, as soon as I get back to cali I'm enlisting. He told me that the Marines have been covering the Armie's ass since day one. I wonder what Areenactor has to say about this..........

He'd probably tell you that it's spelt A-R-M-Y and that the army has existed for about 150(?) years more than the Marine Corps.LOL
 
The Marine Corps started in Tun Tavern, in Pennsylvania in 1775. Remember that one, ShiningIce, because you'll be asked a LOT of knowledge questions in general! In fact, I've got a document containing a complete listing of every type of question you could be asked about the Marine Corps. If you want, I could e-mail it to you. It has way more information then you'll be asked in boot camp, but it'll still be useful to have after boot camp, especially if you ever want to go on Meritorious Promotion boards (I don't know what your MOS is supposed to be, but if it's anything like mine, promotions come REEEEEAAAAALLLY slowly! Sometimes meritorious promotions are the only way to go.). I'm getting way ahead of myself, so let's worry about boot camp, first. There IS a knowledge test you'll have to pass on boot camp, and it will have 50-150 questions about Marine Corps history, uniform regulations, customs and courtesies, first-aid, combat, etc. It isn't a hard test at all, especially if you're paying attention when the Drill Instructors go over the questions with you.
 
He'd probably tell you that it's spelt A-R-M-Y and that the army has existed for about 150(?) years more than the Marine Corps.LOL


Thanx BigJim but he puts things so much more colorfully, Id just prefer to hear it from his mouth 😛
 
First off, don't let recruiters jerk you around and make you think something's really good, without having any true info on it, besides word of mouth. Always remember that they have a quota to meet. Don't sign ANYTHING until what you want and are 'guaranteed' is in black and white on the paper you're supposted to sign. Remember to read over everything carefully and ASK QUESTIONS. Don't let them just summarize things to you. Good luck.
 
i wish i had a buck for every lie a recruiter has told!

and the sob who told you that b.s. owes me (and you) 10 bucks for that whopper ice! lmao
the marines do an incredible job, no dought about it. look at their record in ww1, korea, nam, desert storm. hell almost all their actions have been ones for the books.
but covering the army's ass? what's this pukes name? i gotta talk trash with this boy! lolol
honestly, go talk to an army recruiter and you'll hear the same b.s., that's what their job is, to b.s. kids so the kid joins their branch of the service.
steve
 
Hey, I just sent you that document of Marine Corps knowledge (For all I know, you received it 3 or 4 times, because my Outlook acts weird, sometimes.).

Also, thx10050 and areenactor bring up good points about recruiters. I'm not trying to badmouth my branch (it applies to all branches, actually), but sometimes truth hurts. Recruiters are nothing but salesmen. Just like thx10050 said, make sure the details of your contract are completely clear, and once everything is written down, MAKE A COPY OF IT!!! I've known guys that made it all the way out to the fleet, and were almost screwed out of any enlistment bonuses they were guaranteed, because the paperwork got "lost" in Admin. Luckily for them, they made copies of all their information.

Another thing, regardless of what information the recruiter has to tell you, you may see things completely different from how he/she may have described it to you. You've gotta WANT to do this, because you're talking about a minimum of 4 years that you become property of the U.S. Government. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, because I think what you're doing is a great decision, but it's a MAJOR decision, as well. From my experiences, only good things have come from my being a Marine. Not everyone has the same experiences, though. All I'm saying is try your best to make sure you know what you're getting into. I know it's kinda hard, since I'm sure you have no idea what to expect, but get as much info from your friend as you possibly can. If you've got any other questions for me, let me know, and I'll answer them to the best of my ability (Geez, I should be getting Recruiter's Assistance points for this! 😀 ).
 
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ice?

does the poem mean that you did sign up?
good for you if you did. welcome to the wonderfull world of gun toting!
steve
 
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does the poem mean that you did sign up?


I found out that even if I only do the Marines for 4 years I can still be an officer, so I'm enrolling in Rotc at school and when I get out Ill enlist, or I could check out the Delayed Enlistment program.
 
If you go into ROTC, you can't enlist. And if you mean enlisting after your officer career is done, I see no point in that and I'm not even sure if that can be done...
 
Pardon my speech I mean Ill "join" the corps when I get out of ROTC, and Im pretty confused over what you just said......... 😕
 
Do some research on ROTC, if you haven't already. ROTC and enlisting are very different from each other. And if that isn't an understatement, I don't know what is. 🙂
 
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