A skilled tickler ?

[minerva]

This thread about 'being lost in a zone in the hands of a skilled tickler’ made me think ....

I’d like to hear opinions from both ‘lees and ‘lers (and switches as well of course 😉 ) – what is it for you personally that makes a person a really good tickler?

 

[ViperGTS]

Attention to detail: being able to tell that very sublte, small changes in pressure can make big changes in the reaction of the lee.

Attention to the needs of the lee: When a lee is properly gagged, she cannot convey the need for a bathroom break, the feeling of pain, or the need for a drink. The ler must be able to identify body language, such as shortness of breath, painful facial expressions, and different tones of voice behind the gag.

Care for his victim: A good ler would never let the victim's welfare slip his mind, therefore he must always be aware of her comfort and safety.

Effective techniques: No one wants to be tickled by a stumbling oaf, so deftness of fingers and knowledge of ticklish spots is required. If the tickler knows how to get a great reaction from his torture victim no matter where he touched her, he's got at least some skill.

 

[Coda]

My initial thought was that obviously, a person who is best at eliciting laughter from their ticklee is the best tickler (which to be optimal would involve both physical and psychological skill). I've heard a few people say that the point of tickling for them isn't to be made to laugh, which I guess would imply different criteria.

I also wouldn't imagine that tickling skill on its own would necessitate the overall best tickling experience.

 

[brianspencer66]

Its transending the tangeble. Of being one with your lee. A co ownership, A sensual journey and not wanting to fully understand but its full of wonderment and embrace. A blending of mind body and spirit. For the lee a paradox of emotions. For the ler a thirst that always needs quenching. its ying and yang its good and evil.
An escavation of ones vunerable senses. skillfull tickling is a life force from the solar beams the life flow of the river. There should be no warning no begining no end no watching the clock nor compromise of your gifts, only the earthly lust for the present.

 

[Bugman]

what is it for you personally that makes a person a really good tickler?

Did i do ok? 😀

 

[Headsnap]

Ten fingers and a sensual streak. Everyone's good at tickling, it's not like it's a sport or anything is it? ^_^

 

[steph]

OMG! Everyone is so NOT~ yes it's a specialized talent...
XOXO

Ten fingers and a sensual streak. Everyone's good at tickling, it's not like it's a sport or anything is it? ^_^

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

what is it for you personally that makes a person a really good tickler?

For me personally...?

First, it must be someone I'm completely at ease with. I tend to hold back otherwise.

Second, they must be very attentive and patient and respond to what my body is revealing to them along the way. The lightest of touches is what drives me absolutely insane. But, of course, I love every second of it! In fact, that type of tickling will leave me hanging on the edge for hours on end if you pace it properly.

Third, a tickler with soft fingers and an insistant light touch will get to me every time. The softer the tool, be it fingers or artist brushes or whatever, the better it tends to work.

OK, I'm ready to be tickled now! It's a good thing I have Drew to play with!

 

[minerva]

Did i do ok? 😀

No! - You did great 🙂
(But that's not the point of this thread, silly )

 

[lk70]

I did a thread a long time ago about patience in lers. I like the ones who take the time to let things build rather than search for, identify and zoom in on really ticklish spots. A long period of constant moderate tickles is more likely to drive me out of my mind (in a good way) than a short burst of intensity such that I can't breath.

Here's the thread if you want to see what anyone else had to say:

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=87038

 

[paracarl44]

The Secret To Tickling Is.................

to make the person who is being tickled enjoy it.

 

[minerva]

I love this statement... "I did a thread a long time ago about patience in lers. I like the ones who take the time to let things build rather than search for, identify and zoom in on really ticklish spots. A long period of constant moderate tickles is more likely to drive me out of my mind (in a good way) than a short burst of intensity such that I can't breath."

fully agree 🙂

thanks to everyone for some very interesting answers and thanks lk70 for pointing me towards this old thread of your's - found some great posts there as well.

 

[slap'n'ticklee]

A skilful tickler for me...

Would have to understand me. Know what I like and know if its to be a playful or torturous session, know what my limits are and know that if I felt it should stop then he would stop or give me a breather.

Knows also what sort of bondage I like and feel comfortable with and get as excited about it as I do.

One that builds it up slowly so when new 'spots' are found we both take great delight.

But foremost, someone I can trust and be fully relaxed and natural with who likes to keep it fresh with surprises etc.

 

[Em Es]

A personal connection and communication

If the players hit it off, then they are on their way to good tickling because you can't connect as tickler and victim if you don't communicate well.

But don't let it discourage you if you get off to a slow start or, after a hot tickling encounter, the tickling does not go well another time. Just like sex, sometimes it may be fine and other times so-so.

 

[jaba]

I did a thread a long time ago about patience in lers. I like the ones who take the time to let things build rather than search for, identify and zoom in on really ticklish spots. A long period of constant moderate tickles is more likely to drive me out of my mind (in a good way) than a short burst of intensity such that I can't breath.

Here's the thread if you want to see what anyone else had to say:

http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=87038

What a great thread, Miss Minerva... 🙂

Miss LK's post here and her linked thread touched on a point I wanted to talk about....

Very few things frustrate me as much as when I watch a promising tickle movie that features an wonderfully ticklish lee, all tied up and ready to go, and in comes a bumbling, fumble fingered tickler (man or woman) who either (a), is such an inept tickler that he/ she gets miserable reactions from the ticklee, or (b), the tickler is so immediately aggressive that he/she pounces on the ticklee like a hungry jackal, quickly reducing the lee into a burnt out screeching wreck, too tired to laugh or even breathe......a horrible tickler can cause the perfect waste of a good ticklee......and that's a tragedy....

I think I'm a pretty good tickler.....not because of any innate inner ability or anything silly like that.....its because I am fortunate enough to tickle a wide variety of ladies, and like anything else, practice makes one better at what one does.....even a goofball like jaba.... 😉

Tickle tecniques vary, and no one stroke works for all lees, although some strokes are killer for just about all lees (jabas secret 😛)....

But as L K mentioned, and as has been my experience, it is not pouncing on the obviously most "killer tickle spot" that is most effective ......it is the slow and methodical, persistent tickling of areas approaching that spot....it is the effective tickling before reaching the really ticklish areas that drives your lee crazy, you can make them feel that this tickling will surely be the death of them far before you reach any obvious tickle spots....one lady endearingly described it as "wishing I could turn my skin inside out to escape the maddening tickle sensations, but never wanting it to stop".....

I like lady laughers, and ladies who laugh rather than scream are my favorite lees....so I don't reduce them to screamers during my tickling. But if I want to hear the deep rich full helpless laughter that makes me crazy, its in my best interest to be a good tickler who can sustain that wonderful laugh from my lee as long as possible.....

 

[tcklft]

As a ler I want my lees to enjoy themselves as much as possible. I watch their body language, listen to whatever they say, never use a gag and always use a safeword. I also ask them before, during and after the session if they have any suggestions. There's little that's more frustrating than playing with someone who won't tell you what they want.

As a lee I want and expect the same, which I try hard to communicate before we start. Unfortunately, some people have a certain set way of approaching these things, and aren't willing to change for love or money. Such people usually make really sucky ticklers.

Great question! 🙂

 

[Helena]

I think I'm a pretty good tickler.....not because of any innate inner ability or anything silly like that.....its because I am fortunate enough to tickle a wide variety of ladies, and like anything else, practice makes one better at what one does.....even a goofball like jaba.... 😉

Tickle tecniques vary, and no one stroke works for all lees, although some strokes are killer for just about all lees (jabas secret 😛)....

I must know what these "killer strokes for just about all lees" are. My curiousity is peaked, and I will not rest until I discover the answers I seek.

 

[minerva]

There's little that's more frustrating than playing with someone who won't tell you what they want.

While I agree, that talking about expectations, likes, dislikes, limits, etc is important, I'm more and more intrigued by the idea of 'being explored'.
Having a tickler finding a very ticklish spot you didn't even know about yourself can be a LOT of fun to say the least 😀
What do you think?

Again, thanks to everyone for your terrific answers so far.

 

[kered]

People, please don't flame me for this but I thought tickling was just tickling until I saw the demonstration Jonmath and Kittentoes put on at the Party in Philadelphia. There is a true art to tickling and I think that those of us who witnessed that event would agree. There was nothing sadistic or malicious in their demonstration. It was his skill and her pure trust in him that really got my attention. I am almost envious of their devotion to each other and hope someday soon to find that for myself.

 

[SilverHealer84]

As a ler I want my lees to enjoy themselves as much as possible. I watch their body language, listen to whatever they say, never use a gag and always use a safeword. I also ask them before, during and after the session if they have any suggestions. There's little that's more frustrating than playing with someone who won't tell you what they want.

As a lee I want and expect the same, which I try hard to communicate before we start. Unfortunately, some people have a certain set way of approaching these things, and aren't willing to change for love or money. Such people usually make really sucky ticklers.

Great question! 🙂

I think it also has to do with lees' personal preferences, too, but you sound like a really good ler to me, the kind I would feel very safe and trusting and liberated around (I have terrible trouble 'letting loose' when tickled). For me, the ler must be having fun and laughing too because the situation is so enjoyable, and not being sadistic or anything like that.

I also agree with Minerva here! Before a couple weeks ago, a couple places were discovered on my back and I never knew they existed before...that was fun! Light touches usually do the trick for me...going at it too long when kneading just above my hips/under my ribcage or my knees and it causes overload for me. A few nimble squeezes and tweaks now and again, mixed in with the lighter sensations, are fun as heck, especially when they're surprises! 😀

 

[cettorpes]

Skilled tickler

I agree with most of you that not ANYbody can tickle. I had some VERY unpleasant experiences with lers who thought tickling in a strong way is the best and I felt nothing just pain. Once I had a ler who did it so much that I couldn't get breath and just gave the air out of me, and nothing went in. I just looked at him in a begging way to stop, and couldn't say a word, just laugh and laugh, but he found pleasure in doing it, so I felt I am going to die. That was NOT pleasant at all.

To tell a good experience, too, once I met a man who could tickle me (and make me feel good) with touching me at a point under my ribs and keeping his hand steadily there. I really felt vibrations coming from his hand.

 

[drew70]

It takes a sensitive touch and an intuition of where and how to proceed. I personally feel women make better ticklers.

 

[Horatio]

All of what you guys are saying..

is totally valid and I would add that the most ticklish spot on someone can be their mind.

If I can get inside their mind by talking with them, taunting them, teasing them.. I truly believe you can make someone much much more responsive by crawling in their head. Find out what they love. What they fear. Tell them what you are going to do next. Make them beg and plead. Tell them you aren't going to stop - and make them believe you 100%. It's the kind of thing a skilled domme does. I think ticklers could learn a lot from a skilled BDSM domme.

 

[jaba]

chase her all around the castle.....

I must know what these "killer strokes for just about all lees" are. My curiousity is peaked, and I will not rest until I discover the answers I seek.

behave, Cinderella .....

if jaba ever gets you out of those glass slippers, you'll be giggling til the stroke of midnight!

 

[chickles_:)]

Would have to understand me. Know what I like and know if its to be a playful or torturous session, know what my limits are and know that if I felt it should stop then he would stop or give me a breather.

Knows also what sort of bondage I like and feel comfortable with and get as excited about it as I do.

One that builds it up slowly so when new 'spots' are found we both take great delight.

But foremost, someone I can trust and be fully relaxed and natural with who likes to keep it fresh with surprises etc.

Hiya All!
Wow, so many good replies that say pretty much anything I could otherwise think of! It sure has been my experience that all the positive advice can separate the "men from the boys" so to speak when it comes to good ticklers. The "boys" are the guys who jsut go for the thrill of the grab-n-tickle which can in the moment be fun.
But the men are the guys who are not afraid to go on a sensual journey with me into a time of shared enjoyment, fun, pleasure and uhm "stimulation" (okay, this starts to get personal and there is of course only one guy who gets to join me in the ultimate experience).

But i guess on second thought I have to say there's another side to being tickled that's totally playful. That is, I enjoy it too when a guy, or sometimes a girl too, just is bold enough to go for it on me. And then all that's been said about being relaxed in the company and that person's sensitivity to my limits counts - admitting of course that sometimes those limits are totally different than others.

Oh no! I was afraid if i got started answering this thread i'd probably say too much!😛

Sorry, friends.

Many blessings,
Chickles