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Advice for future NESTees

Capnmad

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NEST Advice

I decided to start this thread as more a list of suggestions for future NESTees, be they newbies or other. This is not a criticism or praise thread, but recommendations to future participants who don’t know what to expect, or feeling out of place, are facing their own learning curve to tackle. Contributions encouraged.

If you’re thinking about attending next year, consider the following:

Start your NEST now. If you’re a lurker, or shy, quiet, reserved or whathaveyou, de-lurk immediately. Start posting. Show us what you’re about. You have nothing to lose by being known and talking to people here, unless you’re some sort of sawed-off jerk. Let’s hope you’re not. The vast majority of the people here are very kind, friendly and understanding folks. Get to know at least a handful of people online (think, kids: handful=5) very well -- people you can feel comfortable with. That’s the first place to start. I can’t emphasize it enough. This group will be crucial to your enjoyment of festivities. If you’re not a member of a group, you may feel left out. Knowing one or two people isn’t enough, as they may abscond with another clique, and you will have no plans, know no one else, and empty time and idle hands are very unfortunate things for an aspiring ‘ler to have. As the charming Bella told me, “It’s all about who you know.” The more people you know, the better.

While you may be discouraged at being left out, don’t be offended by cliques. You will need them to an extent. Cliques are naturally formed by every large group of people for the sake of communication dynamics and comfort (you can’t very well have a group of 50+ people trying to participate in the same conversation, now can you? At least, not efficiently.). NESTers (wait, is it NESTees or NESTers? Oh,well...) seem to be a fairly amorphous group, bound by a common interest, but cliques, naturally, will form. You may eventually find yourself in one, too, as you get to know people. There may be future efforts made to make things less segregated, and give some greater sense of belonging or direction to activities, or perhaps, more organized plans may evolve which would be especially useful to newbies, but if not, you should be prepared for the possibility of not knowing where to go or what to do. You’re responsible for your experience. Regardless of conditions, this is why that core group of five people is so crucial -- when in doubt, if you’ve made these friends in advance, they’ll probably be able to hook you up with some direction or place to go.

Know that people aren’t just there for tickling. It’s a social event. Try to be sociable. Even if you’re shy. Most people are multifaceted, no matter our common interest. I hope you’re multifaceted, too. It makes you more interesting. I came chiefly wanting to meet people -- to find more people like me -- enjoy the company of others, revel in the diversity of people and personalities, and of course, join in the activities related to our common interest. Some in attendance may not be interested in tickling or being tickled at all (however counterintuitive that may first seem when attending a gathering of ticklephiles). They may just really need to feel out the scene first. Not everyone is as comfortable in their own skin as you, or some may be more so. Understand and appreciate the diversity of the human condition in this regard, and respect it. Feel free to offer invitations to activities to anyone or ask to participate therein, but understand you may be turned down for any number of reasons. If you’re meeting someone for the first time and have only chatted with them briefly prior, I don’t think asking them if they want to play is untoward (it is, after all, our common interest, and they always have the choice to turn you down), but also offer them the option to just talk if they’d rather. I still don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, and it gives them another way to better know you, if they want. If they’d rather not do either -- and some may not -- you did what you could, invited politely, offered conversation as an alternative, and that’s all you can do. Unfortunate? Perhaps. But there’s no shame in being turned down.

Know that there will be some discrepancies between online personalities and how they are in real life. Some persona discrepancies are bigger than others. On one side there is misrepresentation, and on another, misinterpretation. The human condition is riddled with both, which is why communication is an art, not a science. Just do your best, roll with it, and get to know people as they are if you have the time, and hope they’ll try to get to know you as you are as well. If you are offered no time, suck it up, and move on. Don’t get hung up on trying to get to know any one person, no matter how nice they may seem. There’s still a bunch of people you likely haven’t met, most of them very cool. Try to shake off the shyness and get to know some of them. People you've missed out on this time may very well be there the following year and may be more able and ready to spend time trying to get to know and understand you and others the next go round.

Elders of the community or simply those well connected with others might pick up some slack if there are blanks in the schedule by letting others know if there are get-togethers going on in their rooms.

I think it’s not only good to know as many people as possible, but also an exceedingly bad idea to go to one of these things knowing few to none, no matter how much you may want to attend, or how much you want to get out of your shell. While I don't want to discourage anyone from going who really wants to, if you don’t know anyone well, or only one or two, I would actually recommend NOT attending unless you are of the extraordinarily lucky, very few, very open and gregarious variety. Hence, the “Start your NEST now” recommendation. But that must be your decision.

However, I’ve made a protocol for a bad planning situation:



IF you’re facing the worst-case scenario, which in my assessment would be:

1.) You have ignored my recommendation of starting your NEST now (one year in advance), and know few to none, but have decided out of personal desire or need to attend NEST anyway.

2.) You’re not especially gregarious in person, but more the quiet, reserved sort who takes a bit to get warmed up to people before conversation really starts flowing, and face the prospect of asking to tickle/be tickled by someone with the same apprehension of a schoolboy asking a girl to dance for the first time.

3.) There’s a big question mark in the schedule where there seems to be essentially nothing planned.


The DON’Ts:

1.) DON'T seclude yourself to your room. No one knows who you are, or where you are.

2.) DON'T leave the hotel. You don’t know where the Hell anyone else is either, and trust me, trying to find anyone beyond the confines of the hotel is far too troublesome.


The DOs:

1.) DO find the room of an organizer, and see if there’s anything going on. (You may have needed to visit this room to register or somesuch. Even if you missed registration, find out who the organizers are and spend at least a bit of time getting to know them -- they are very much your hosts and should be acknowledged early on, not to mention, thanked for their service. Their work is what has afforded you a place there.)

If you can’t find the organizer’s room, or there’s nothing going on there...

2.) DO wander the hotel aimlessly. All floors.

Now, I understand, the second “DO” does sound strange, perhaps even counterintuitive. Nevermind that. Trust me. Do the second “DO”. If need be, take a snack or a book to read while you walk (Who knows? It may be a while).

Why do the second “DO”? Probability dictates if anyone recognizes you from a net pic or the social, and you’ve presented yourself as at least a half-way decent human being, sooner or later, someone entering or leaving a room where there’s some impromptu tickling going on will recognize you and say, “Hey! We’re tickling people over in Room X! You wanna’ join us?”

And there you go.

I lucked out at one point after a late evening of unfortunate aimlessness, was discovered by a fellow NESTee, and directed to a room of people playing almost immediately after stepping out of my room. You may not be so lucky, and it may take a while, so, like I said, bring a snack. 🙂 Eventually, odds are someone will find you and direct the lost lambs to the rest of the flock (...or to the slaughter, depending on your preference. 😉 ). And there, discern protocol on tickling/being tickled by others by watching those around you, asking questions where you remain uncertain, and cautiously following suit in participating.


These opinions are my own.

If anyone has anything to add to these, please do.

If anyone disagrees with any of these, please make yourself heard.

I want to make sure next years newbies have at least as good a time, or hopefully, better than I had.
 
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As the charming Bella told me, “It’s all about who you know.” The more people you know, the better.


Now see, this is why I do a search on my name every now and again 😉 . If I may clarify a bit, NEST and other large gatherings aren't so much about who you know or even knowing lots of folks; rather, having fun all weekend involves making sure the people you *do* know have fun things planned.

Here's a PM I sent months ago to a friend for whom this was the first NEST, when I was asked how to behave and how best to have fun. That person had a fabulous time BTW :xpulcy: :

The very best thing I can tell you is to treat NEST like any other party. Seriously. Yes there's tickling, but that's not why it's so popular and why we regulars have been going back for so many years now. We keep coming back to see incredible friends and eat and laugh and have a blast, the tickling is actually just a little part of the weekend even though it's happening all around. NEST friends are forever friends, corny as that might sound. Do *not* make it about 'scoring', trying to find someone to tickle. Of course that's what you want, and that will happen naturally as you make friends, I promise. Don't let yourself be the lonely voyeur in the corner, come ready to be social just like you would at a neighborhood BBQ if you'd just moved in. Be ready to speak up and discuss what movies you like, what you like to do for fun, your fave bands, that kind of thing. Don't be afraid to jump into conversations, that's how you meet people at NEST. If you hear people are going to get dinner, ask if you can go then have fun-they won't say no, at least I've never heard of such. Every single "popular" person you read about on the TMF that the other NEST folks all seem to love was brand new once. All they did was talk and smile and treat people well and be *fun*, and care more about getting to know us as people than about our feet and ribs . That's honestly all there is to it, trust me.

I stand by this, and I'll add taking the time beforehand to figure out whatcha wanna do over the course of the event so any dead time is filled in a way you'll enjoy.

Bella
 
>Smacks head!<

God, I’m stupid somedays.

Something I just thought of, one more thing I could have done that probably would have greatly enhanced my experience (though just a guess): You may be a bit of a loner, and comfortable in that role, or at least familiar with it. Not everyone is so comfortable or familiar with being on their own, or even talking one-on-one. Some will travel in groups for comfort, especially in unfamiliar environments.

So here’s a good policy: If you want to meet and talk to someone after the social’s over, don’t invite them to your room to talk -- invite them, AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS. Maybe have refreshments for everyone, if you can swing it. Sooner or later, everybody’s gotta’ eat. Some pizza and sodas aren’t too hard to drum up for a late-day get together -- OJ, bagels and cream cheese, jam or even lox for a morning crowd won’t run you too much. Remember, this is a thing that comes around only once a year. Be a decent host for a bunch of people. You may or may not get to talk to who you want, but at the least, you’ll probably make some new acquaintances over the food, and everyone’ll come away learning that you’re a pretty decent guy or gal. Hard to lose out entirely with this approach, I wager...

Next year, maybe.

I’ll start saving my pizza money now -- there’s gotta’ be a Donato’s in Philly, right?

Okay -- anyone else?
 
bella said:
As the charming Bella told me, “It’s all about who you know.” The more people you know, the better.



The very best thing I can tell you is to treat NEST like any other party. Seriously. Yes there's tickling, but that's not why it's so popular and why we regulars have been going back for so many years now. Every single "popular" person you read about on the TMF that the other NEST folks all seem to love was brand new once. All they did was talk and smile and treat people well and be *fun*, and care more about getting to know us as people than about our feet and ribs . That's honestly all there is to it, trust me.



Bella

Hi Bella,
This was my experience at my first N.E.S.T. and I could and should have made it much easier on myself.
Even though I'm not the person that you sent this P.M. to we had a similar conversation at breakfast Saturday morning and it helped me tremendously.

I probably came off as shy at first because I sat down at a table of old friends knowing nobody. It can be a little scary. To back track a little, I arrived late on Friday night (after circling for an hour over Philly) and held my heavy bag in my hand for over 45 minutes waiting for the shuttle driver. I had worked very hard all day, trying to make sure I was free for the weekend. Then after a three hour flight, I was tired and very anti-social. The girl that I shared the shuttle with was in a worse mood than I was and a little rude. I thought for sure she was a Nestee at the time but I never saw her again. I got out of the shuttle and the first thing I noticed was LeeAlure in a pink t-shirt that said tickle she looked so cute. Knowing what I know now that shirt was very ironic. She smiled at me but I was in such a bad mood I barely smiled back and I think that she got a very bad impression of me because she was less than friendly to me all weekend. I tried to be nice anyways and never took it personally. After all I am a Ler and not ticklish. Even the great LeeAllure couldn't break me (I dare you) :evilha: . The only one that tried was the very lovely Lori, but all that happened was she lovingly punched my arm and said why aren't you ticklish? That story is in another post. The other people outside were, now remember I was tired, I barely looked and I didn't know them yet, so I may be wrong. My guess is ticklishgiggle,Bratgirl and Lisha (You're The Best) possibly in Jamie's pink wig. Jamie may have been there as well. Once I checked in, I washed my face took a deep breath and said to myself get social. I went downstairs back to the lobby and everyone was gone. So I decided to catch up on some work on the hotels computers. Jamie came down to the lobby with Bratgirl and I thought they were a couple some other guys were watching TV I think Sugar was with them as well. Like an idiot I didn't talk to anyone. Mostly because I was so angry with myself for acting like a snob and an idiot when I arrived. I could have met some of the coolest people at NEST before most people even arrived 😱 . I went up to my room and then back down for a drink and Alchemy was in the lobby as well he actually came up to me and asked how things were and I gave him a three word answer then I went to bed tired and depressed. I got caught up in my own self loathing and made things so much harder on myself than they had to be. The next morning is when I had breakfast with Bella, Chris, Jan, Alchemy, Danimal and Andy I think there were probably others. Bella told me that I may have a really bad time but to make the best of it. She scared me into clearing my mind of all the stress in my life and work at being the friendly laid back guy that I usually am. After that I met LK70 and she was really nervous too and I felt much more at ease after meeting her. She drove me to the drugstore to get my KY Jelly ( I bet many Lee's wish she hadn't). She is super nice, super cool and super ticklish, hey wait a minute she must be Supergirl. After that I met everyone at the meet and Greet. Feathery and his wife agreed to let me tickle her in the pool at the pool party and the action never stopped for me after that. I hope that this true story helps new people when they finally make the decision to come to N.E.S.T. If you are female and self conscious about your looks. You have nothing to fear, you will always feel love and appreciation from all of the males at N.E.S.T. in an unbelievably safe environment :triangle: .
P.S. Jan and Bella thank you for being so kind to a scared Newbie at that breakfast it really helped turn things around.

As a Footnote: I should also ad that I have been to many fetish parties and have never had trouble finding play partners. So even though I met many people and had a great time. If you are even a little shy make sure you meet people first. When I met people they always asked my screen name and were always disappointed that they had never heard of me. I did contribute a lot to TickleTheater but most people here don't go there very often. Now that I do contribute I lose around two hours of sleep a night :scared: I will have to cut down
 
since i have about 350+ days to go before the next NEST, these tips will go a long ways for me and my lady. thanks for posting the help so i don't have to go asking loads of questions hours berfore i left. :veryhappy
 
What Bella said is right on spot....

My first time at Nest I thought I was attending a tickle gathering where people would play and watch others play and view movies and the like...


That IS a part of what happens the day of the main event, but that is NOT what nest is....

The time spent before and after the main event is more important to Tracy and I...

I found out quickly that nest is a place where you can drop your guard and be yourself...totally....There is no other place I know of that this is true...

Good friendships are made there....long lasting ones.....All you need to do is open up and be yourself....There are no judgements.....just acceptance...

It is the main reason that Tracy and I go back each year...

And...it is important to stay in touch with the friends you make and not just wait until the next time nest rolls around again...


Ray
 
ok as a person who doesnt know how to break the ice, wat should i do, the idea of messaging random people it doesnt make sense to me, please help i would like to attend the next NEST
 
venray said:
What Bella said is right on spot....

My first time at Nest I thought I was attending a tickle gathering where people would play and watch others play and view movies and the like...


That IS a part of what happens the day of the main event, but that is NOT what nest is....

The time spent before and after the main event is more important to Tracy and I...

I found out quickly that nest is a place where you can drop your guard and be yourself...totally....There is no other place I know of that this is true...

Good friendships are made there....long lasting ones.....All you need to do is open up and be yourself....There are no judgements.....just acceptance...

It is the main reason that Tracy and I go back each year...

And...it is important to stay in touch with the friends you make and not just wait until the next time nest rolls around again...


Ray

Well said Daddy, I couldn't agree more :Kiss2:
 
What a great post!!!

Morgan - This post is awesome!

It really captures lots of the great ideas and recommendations that first time Nesters can use to help break the ice as well as helping folks coming back again, who were shy at their first one, to feel more comfortable at the next.

When Nest comes around again I'll ask the Mods to pull this up to the front of the line for a time so newtimers can get some ideas on how to make help integrate themselves into the party.

And another recommendation for anyone new... Hang out with me! My room is always rockin' and a rollin'. Rockin' out to tunes and ticklees rollin' around on the bed! I'll always put up notices where my room is so folks can come visit and/or register or just hang out.

And I always appreciate the help getting the sodas and water and munchies to and from my room or going out shopping to get stuff as Snail Shell found out. I put that man to work along with Danimal and me on Sunday picking up all the food and then getting it up into the club. Offering to help is always appreciated and certainly helps get you involved.

Thanks for starting this thread Morgan!
 
As I elsewhere posted already, I can basically subscribe 100% what you wrote. I only partially made myself known before attending and had not fixed any specific appointment with anybody. Nonetheless, doing what you said at the NEST (wandering around, being social, discreet but active, and being open to socialization) made my experience 100% positive. Honestly, couldn't think any better, in terms of knowing [great] people (including the ones I just talk to only few times, as for example, Bella), sharing our passion and feel welcome.

I'd like to emphasize one more thing. Attending NEST is turning to be not only an isolated one-a-year-time experience. It is important in the interactions in this forum too. Knowing who you are talking to in the chatroom brings the discussion to a higher level, you start having "friends" in the forum. Personally, I barely had few PMs with members in here (never had a very good reason to PM)... now it is a completely different story.


Capnmad said:
I decided to start this thread as more a list of suggestions for future NESTees, be they newbies or other. This is not a criticism or praise thread, but recommendations to future participants who don’t know what to expect, or feeling out of place, are facing their own learning curve to tackle. Contributions encouraged.

If you’re thinking about attending next year, consider the following:

Start your NEST now. If you’re a lurker, or shy, quiet, reserved or whathaveyou, de-lurk immediately. Start posting. Show us what you’re about. You have nothing to lose by being known and talking to people here, unless you’re some sort of sawed-off jerk. Let’s hope you’re not. The vast majority of the people here are very kind, friendly and understanding folks. Get to know at least a handful of people online (think, kids: handful=5) very well -- people you can feel comfortable with. That’s the first place to start. I can’t emphasize it enough. This group will be crucial to your enjoyment of festivities. If you’re not a member of a group, you may feel left out. Knowing one or two people isn’t enough, as they may abscond with another clique, and you will have no plans, know no one else, and empty time and idle hands are very unfortunate things for an aspiring ‘ler to have. As the charming Bella told me, “It’s all about who you know.” The more people you know, the better.

While you may be discouraged at being left out, don’t be offended by cliques. You will need them to an extent. Cliques are naturally formed by every large group of people for the sake of communication dynamics and comfort (you can’t very well have a group of 50+ people trying to participate in the same conversation, now can you? At least, not efficiently.). NESTers (wait, is it NESTees or NESTers? Oh,well...) seem to be a fairly amorphous group, bound by a common interest, but cliques, naturally, will form. You may eventually find yourself in one, too, as you get to know people. There may be future efforts made to make things less segregated, and give some greater sense of belonging or direction to activities, or perhaps, more organized plans may evolve which would be especially useful to newbies, but if not, you should be prepared for the possibility of not knowing where to go or what to do. You’re responsible for your experience. Regardless of conditions, this is why that core group of five people is so crucial -- when in doubt, if you’ve made these friends in advance, they’ll probably be able to hook you up with some direction or place to go.

Know that people aren’t just there for tickling. It’s a social event. Try to be sociable. Even if you’re shy. Most people are multifaceted, no matter our common interest. I hope you’re multifaceted, too. It makes you more interesting. I came chiefly wanting to meet people -- to find more people like me -- enjoy the company of others, revel in the diversity of people and personalities, and of course, join in the activities related to our common interest. Some in attendance may not be interested in tickling or being tickled at all (however counterintuitive that may first seem when attending a gathering of ticklephiles). They may just really need to feel out the scene first. Not everyone is as comfortable in their own skin as you, or some may be more so. Understand and appreciate the diversity of the human condition in this regard, and respect it. Feel free to offer invitations to activities to anyone or ask to participate therein, but understand you may be turned down for any number of reasons. If you’re meeting someone for the first time and have only chatted with them briefly prior, I don’t think asking them if they want to play is untoward (it is, after all, our common interest, and they always have the choice to turn you down), but also offer them the option to just talk if they’d rather. I still don’t think there’s anything wrong with that, and it gives them another way to better know you, if they want. If they’d rather not do either -- and some may not -- you did what you could, invited politely, offered conversation as an alternative, and that’s all you can do. Unfortunate? Perhaps. But there’s no shame in being turned down.

Know that there will be some discrepancies between online personalities and how they are in real life. Some persona discrepancies are bigger than others. On one side there is misrepresentation, and on another, misinterpretation. The human condition is riddled with both, which is why communication is an art, not a science. Just do your best, roll with it, and get to know people as they are if you have the time, and hope they’ll try to get to know you as you are as well. If you are offered no time, suck it up, and move on. Don’t get hung up on trying to get to know any one person, no matter how nice they may seem. There’s still a bunch of people you likely haven’t met, most of them very cool. Try to shake off the shyness and get to know some of them. People you've missed out on this time may very well be there the following year and may be more able and ready to spend time trying to get to know and understand you and others the next go round.

Elders of the community or simply those well connected with others might pick up some slack if there are blanks in the schedule by letting others know if there are get-togethers going on in their rooms.

I think it’s not only good to know as many people as possible, but also an exceedingly bad idea to go to one of these things knowing few to none, no matter how much you may want to attend, or how much you want to get out of your shell. While I don't want to discourage anyone from going who really wants to, if you don’t know anyone well, or only one or two, I would actually recommend NOT attending unless you are of the extraordinarily lucky, very few, very open and gregarious variety. Hence, the “Start your NEST now” recommendation. But that must be your decision.

However, I’ve made a protocol for a bad planning situation:



IF you’re facing the worst-case scenario, which in my assessment would be:

1.) You have ignored my recommendation of starting your NEST now (one year in advance), and know few to none, but have decided out of personal desire or need to attend NEST anyway.

2.) You’re not especially gregarious in person, but more the quiet, reserved sort who takes a bit to get warmed up to people before conversation really starts flowing, and face the prospect of asking to tickle/be tickled by someone with the same apprehension of a schoolboy asking a girl to dance for the first time.

3.) There’s a big question mark in the schedule where there seems to be essentially nothing planned.


The DON’Ts:

1.) DON'T seclude yourself to your room. No one knows who you are, or where you are.

2.) DON'T leave the hotel. You don’t know where the Hell anyone else is either, and trust me, trying to find anyone beyond the confines of the hotel is far too troublesome.


The DOs:

1.) DO find the room of an organizer, and see if there’s anything going on. (You may have needed to visit this room to register or somesuch. Even if you missed registration, find out who the organizers are and spend at least a bit of time getting to know them -- they are very much your hosts and should be acknowledged early on, not to mention, thanked for their service. Their work is what has afforded you a place there.)

If you can’t find the organizer’s room, or there’s nothing going on there...

2.) DO wander the hotel aimlessly. All floors.

Now, I understand, the second “DO” does sound strange, perhaps even counterintuitive. Nevermind that. Trust me. Do the second “DO”. If need be, take a snack or a book to read while you walk (Who knows? It may be a while).

Why do the second “DO”? Probability dictates if anyone recognizes you from a net pic or the social, and you’ve presented yourself as at least a half-way decent human being, sooner or later, someone entering or leaving a room where there’s some impromptu tickling going on will recognize you and say, “Hey! We’re tickling people over in Room X! You wanna’ join us?”

And there you go.

I lucked out at one point after a late evening of unfortunate aimlessness, was discovered by a fellow NESTee, and directed to a room of people playing almost immediately after stepping out of my room. You may not be so lucky, and it may take a while, so, like I said, bring a snack. 🙂 Eventually, odds are someone will find you and direct the lost lambs to the rest of the flock (...or to the slaughter, depending on your preference. 😉 ). And there, discern protocol on tickling/being tickled by others by watching those around you, asking questions where you remain uncertain, and cautiously following suit in participating.


These opinions are my own.

If anyone has anything to add to these, please do.

If anyone disagrees with any of these, please make yourself heard.

I want to make sure next years newbies have at least as good a time, or hopefully, better than I had.
 
QBWeaver said:
And another recommendation for anyone new... Hang out with me! My room is always rockin' and a rollin'. Rockin' out to tunes and ticklees rollin' around on the bed! I'll always put up notices where my room is so folks can come visit and/or register or just hang out.

Your room was my ice-breaker! 😀 *hugs*
Even if I was still very nervous and not knowing exactely what to say, the feeling of community in your room before the registration was the first lighthouse in the sea of NEST...

Newbie folks... remember her words! 😀
 
Cool.

I'm glad this is getting some more contributors on here. Thanks for adding your thoughts, all of you, please continue, and certainly, thanks for the props, QB. I just think this is all very important stuff for incoming NESTees to give some thought, as I gave it relatively little before jumping in. I'm familiar with being a loner, didn't really know what to expect, knew nearly no one, and figured that'd be cool -- but it wasn't as cool as it could be. Just trying to save future NESTers the hassle of feeling left out or lost...

Another thought, and again, simple stuff here. Actually show up. Fully.

To explain: Long story short, the conservative and overbearing nature of certain of my family members to constantly pry into my life requires that I concoct a cover-story to attend something like this when it lasts a whole weekend. They simply wouldn't understand it. In fact, when I returned, I had to console an upset parent who was concerned I hadn't called every night. But everyone has their own family issues, I'm sure.

This year, my alibi was quite easy. I'm a comicbook fan, and the Wizard World Comic Convention was in town. That's what I told them I did. And indeed, I attended, and wanted to do so, as I was looking for some original art. I did the con in the mornings, and NEST in the afternoons and evenings, sort of. Good plan, right?

Wrong.

NEST is a big event. There's lots of people. It only happens once a year. It should demand your full attention. (Of course, these are only my opinions, but take them for what they're worth). Don't waste your time other places doing other things. Don't busy yourself or fill your schedule with other activities. "Fashionably late" DOES NOT APPLY HERE. Get here EARLY (especially if you already have met some of the people, or have posted your pic here, and can recognize or be recognized -- NOTE: Think about posting your pic here if you feel comfortable doing so. I thought I recognized a member hanging all by his lonesome at a local diner, but he likely wouldn't have known me from a hole in the ground, and I wasn't 100% positive, so I didn't speak to him. Missed opportunity to get to know someone early. If you don't have the benefit of recognizing each other on sight working to your advantage, you'll probably miss out on opportunities like this, too.). Meet folks, and spend time with them. If they're amiable to the idea, talk with them and get to know each other.

I got in late, missed the official registration (and could have met cool people even there -- even at something so mundane sounding as "registration"!), and lost opportunities there, too. Trust me. Come EARLY.

I know everyone has a truckload of crap going on in your lives besides this. Try to drop it. Just for a weekend. Try not to be preoccupied with what's going on at home, at work, or anything else. Doing so will hinder your ability to think, communicate and engage people, and will cripple your chances to know and be known. This is a vacation of sorts from your outside life. Treat it as such, forget about other issues as best you can, relax, and be yourself.

Next year, if I attend, given that the comic convention will almost assuredly not be so conveniently scheduled as to coincide with NEST, I'll have to be more wily in my cover-story. It's a shame that I have to have one to begin with, but hey, that's life. I won't have the complications of scheduling time to attend other events to weigh me down, and I'll doubtless have a much better time.
 
Oh, and just to connect my first post with my last one: The first one, I mentioned being left with empty time on my hands, and the last, I mentioned overscheduling myself:

I overscheduled my mornings and early on when I could have just been feeling out the scene, and making crucial connections with people who could have helped me out, made suggestions and offered direction to activities and whathaveyou. And then when I returned to the hotel, because I lacked those connections, I was lost. I made for myself a perfect storm of suckhood.

Don't do as I did, boys and girls! Learn now! Start now! Delurk and post! Arrive early! Talk to people! And then, next year when you leave this event, hugging everyone you've met, you'll be remembered as part of our large, diverse family -- and not the inbred cousin that everyone whispers about, either -- no, but rather that handsome guy or gal who's got their choice of MIT or Harvard, and everyone wants to know and have their picture taken with! Yes children! This all can be yours if you just heed our advice! 😀

And now...

theniteavenger said:
ok as a person who doesnt know how to break the ice, wat should i do, the idea of messaging random people it doesnt make sense to me, please help i would like to attend the next NEST

Good question, avenger. Thanks for joining the thread. Random PMing ain't the way to go. You want to start your NEST now? Cool. Here's how you get to know people online:

1.) Do what you're doing now. Post. Post on every imaginable topic (though, early on, maybe steer clear of the contentious issues like politics and religion). Let your thoughts be heard. Be personable and civil. Eventually, someone will respond to something you've posted, provided you've added something substantial to the discussion. Respond in kind. Keep posting.

2.) If you've got a talent, let it show. If you're artistically gifted, post some art (preferably related to the topic we're here for -- tickling). Not an artist? Try your hand at some tickling fiction. People are putting up their first attempts at tickling fiction all the time. We're a friendly crowd, so don't be shy. If a person criticizes your writing rudely or out of turn, a half-dozen other people will pile up on them and tell them to be nice or leave. It's a generally good, civil group.

3.) Chat. I don't do it often, but it seems to work for some. I've met a couple of cool folks there, so give it a shot.

Try any of these, but I think posting is key. Have something fresh to say. Start an interesting topic or contribute to one. Show us your personality. If you're a pretty cool guy, and fun to talk to, you'll be in little back-and-forths on threads and then PMs in no time, probably.

Work at it. Show us who you are, and be patient. You'll get to know people, they'll get to know you, and having started your NEST now, you'll have a much better time next year than if you hadn't.

Take care, and thanks for asking! I wish you luck and skill.
 
Again, always think GROUP.

Forgive some of this if it seems at all "Captain Obvious", but to some, it's less so than others.

One more thing: If you've never been to a gathering, but you've tickled people before, you've likely done so singularly -- that is one-on-one. Probably some friend or other, sometime, or some boyfriend or girlfriend, whathaveyou. That's what you're accustomed to. That's pretty much the norm (at least to my experience -- maybe some of you are luckier than I?!) outside NEST.

Inside NEST, group tickling (a bunch of people in a room, a few 'lees with usually between 1-3 'lers for each, or as many or as few as they feel comfortable with at the time) is the norm, near as I can tell. Surprising? Yes. But fun, too. Typically the pattern is to tickle for a few minutes (after explicit permission is acquired by all involved, of course), and then slow the pace or stop, depending on the resilience of the 'lee, and resume as common sense permits (and frankly, I was astonished at the stamina of most of the 'lees I saw).

Remember, the rules of no uninvited touch always apply, and just because one 'lee is being tickled by a bunch does NOT give any implicit permission for you to join in. Here, do as I did, and wait -- a 'lee can't exactly give permission for anything in the middle of being tickled. Be patient and wait for a lull. Enjoy the scene while you wait. Observing is often nearly as much fun as participating. You're there to learn, too, so watch and learn. The room I was in had Terorizer (sp?) doing an excellent job of "reffing" the scene -- deciding when someone could or couldn't join in, and when a 'lee had had enough. Identify the person in charge (the 'lee is ALWAYS in charge in terms of who tickles them and for how long, if you don't know already, and working in concert may be someone, like I said, being a "referree" of sorts). Pay attention to what all parties in charge say, and comply.

I was just reading a post by one attendee who seemed a little apprehensive about the numbers of people involved in a single tickling session, and seemed to have felt a bit out of place. We're all friends here. We're all here because of a common interest. And though group tickling may not be something you're accustomed to, you'll find it's quite enjoyable and liberating, not to mention, it tends to put everyone at ease eventually, as it's a social group acceptance thing, and generally speaking, there's safety in numbers for all. Trust me -- do the group thing I mentioned earlier, and invite a group to your room if you're sociable enough and up for it, or wander about and find another room with a group elsewhere, and if you're a stand-up guy (or gal) and there's room, you'll probably be allowed entrance.

Don't be misled by the social. After "getting to know you" activities were over, and general announcements made, people generally broke up into clusters to chat, and I spotted a 'lee with a 'ler just gently tickling her feet off on the side of the room. Another 'ler shortly followed. I assumed, "Okay, so some people talk, and some people tickle, and maybe those tickling now will talk later, and vice-versa."

I'd chatted with a couple of people there at the social, hadn't really seen any real group tickling break out, and so the group-tickle format never really entered my mind, or at least was never set as the norm. ("Group tickling? Multiple 'lers on one 'lee? Pah! That's just a fantasy, or at best, a rarity -- stuff you see in videos!" -- Wrong. It's fun and done here, frequently, safely, and with care.)

I figured asking someone you had chatted with a bit to chill in your room, have a bite to eat, chat some more and maybe be tickled if they chose was cool. Nice for an ideal situation between two shy people, right? Wrong! Try again! The "ideal" situation is very rarely the real one, so don't be mistaken, and don't assume -- EVEN THOUGH you're at a tickling get-together, and EVEN IF the person you want to invite has given intimations before that they want to be tickled by you. Trust me. Again, always think GROUP: Invite a GROUP, find a GROUP, join in a GROUP. This CANNOT be over-emphasized.

It's a key rule to follow, and followed in concordance with the rest of the rules of conduct that are outlined by organizers in e-mails and reviewed when you get there, and your own common sense, you should have a great time.

That's all I can think of right now, but if I have any additional insights as I go, I'll be sure to update this.

Please, if there's anyone else with any other insight or suggestion they want to share, please post it here. It would serve newbies to be better prepared.
 
I think you gave some great advice Capn and you too Bella. I really enjoyed meeting you Bella. You are very sweet!





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The comic we talked about

Hi Cap,
Sorry i didn't mention you in my posts but I didn't know your screen name. I try never to mention anyones name unless they have no screen name like Lori or Ginger. For all I know those are fake names but what's in a name anyways. They are both incredible girls besides they both have their pictures up on this sight so they can't be too shy. Back to the reason I'm posting, you are a great guy and people really like you but you can't take things too seriously especially at a gathering like NEST. Anything negative that happened to me I just shrugged it off I wasn't going to be put in a bad mood, like on Friday night, by things that were completely out of my control. I am adding a scan of one of the very very few Northguard comics.

P.S. LK70 I am not whining. :atom: We all can't be as beautiful and perfect as you. 🙄
 
Capnmad said:
I decided to start this thread as more a list of suggestions for future NESTees, be they newbies or other. This is not a criticism or praise thread, but recommendations to future participants who don’t know what to expect, or feeling out of place, are facing their own learning curve to tackle. Contributions encouraged.

If you’re thinking about attending next year, consider the following:
.....

The DON’Ts:

1.) DON'T seclude yourself to your room. No one knows who you are, or where you are.

2.) DON'T leave the hotel. You don’t know where the Hell anyone else is either, and trust me, trying to find anyone beyond the confines of the hotel is far too troublesome.


The DOs:

1.) DO find the room of an organizer, and see if there’s anything going on. (You may have needed to visit this room to register or somesuch. Even if you missed registration, find out who the organizers are and spend at least a bit of time getting to know them -- they are very much your hosts and should be acknowledged early on, not to mention, thanked for their service. Their work is what has afforded you a place there.)

If you can’t find the organizer’s room, or there’s nothing going on there...

2.) DO wander the hotel aimlessly. All floors.

Now, I understand, the second “DO” does sound strange, perhaps even counterintuitive. Nevermind that. Trust me. Do the second “DO”. If need be, take a snack or a book to read while you walk (Who knows? It may be a while).

Why do the second “DO”? Probability dictates if anyone recognizes you from a net pic or the social, and you’ve presented yourself as at least a half-way decent human being, sooner or later, someone entering or leaving a room where there’s some impromptu tickling going on will recognize you and say, “Hey! We’re tickling people over in Room X! You wanna’ join us?”

And there you go.

....


These opinions are my own.

If anyone has anything to add to these, please do.

If anyone disagrees with any of these, please make yourself heard.

I want to make sure next years newbies have at least as good a time, or hopefully, better than I had.


Hiya Capnmad!:bunny:
This was so good to hear!! I have had people suggest i go to a NEST-thingy but honestly, i have been like WAY too shy to try it... not knowing how it would work - and being involved here has meant that it didn't seem like a great idea...

There's something, Any advice on going in for the NEST when you're connected witha guy who probably doesn't want to go??

Anyway, thanks for the advice... If i ever do get to one of these, i'll have a better idea of how to make it good! :veryhappy

many blessings,
Chickles:redheart:
 
I'm still apprehensive about doing something like this...no not because of the usual stuff. I'm unsure if my personality/sense of humor would actually go over there or simply alienate me from most. What type of personalities are prominant?

Also...when is drinking allowed? I mean, I like alcohol..so having a few beers/shots/kegs would seem natural to me, but I understand the whole issues with it.
 
meangry said:
I'm still apprehensive about doing something like this...no not because of the usual stuff. I'm unsure if my personality/sense of humor would actually go over there or simply alienate me from most. What type of personalities are prominant?

Also...when is drinking allowed? I mean, I like alcohol..so having a few beers/shots/kegs would seem natural to me, but I understand the whole issues with it.


I would have to say there are lots of different personalities present. Many people are friendly and outgoing and I would say that those people made a very serious effort (without seeming to really) to bring the more quiet and shy people into the festivities. And most of the quiet and shy people came out of their shells pretty easily.

There were sweet people, smart ass people, annoying people, sexy people, quiet people, loud people and everything else you can think of. And it was all good. Reallly really good.

Alcohol? There was some in some of the hotel rooms. I didn't see one person who seemed intoxicated. There was a small amount at the gathering and the serving of it was carefully controlled and monitored by one person. Again, no one seemed to be even a little buzzed. Too much alcohol ruins the fun anyway. But if you think you'd like a beer or two to help you relax and loosen up, that's fine.
 
Hey Chickles!

chickles_:) said:
Hiya Capnmad!:bunny:
This was so good to hear!! I have had people suggest i go to a NEST-thingy but honestly, i have been like WAY too shy to try it... not knowing how it would work - and being involved here has meant that it didn't seem like a great idea...

There's something, Any advice on going in for the NEST when you're connected witha guy who probably doesn't want to go??

Anyway, thanks for the advice... If i ever do get to one of these, i'll have a better idea of how to make it good! :veryhappy

many blessings,
Chickles:redheart:


Thanks for asking, Chickles...

Trying to do NEST when one party "probably doesn't want to go" is probably not the best idea. Going your first time and meeting a lot of new people in a new environment is difficult as it is, but doing that while looking after a person who ranges from very tentative to potentially unwilling I can only imagine would greatly inhibit your experience. That, and some people tend to cluster with whom they know, and don't get to circulate and meet with everyone else, and that's really more than half this thing -- socializing.

So while I would suggest at least contemplating the possibility of attending on your own, don't lose hope yet! We've got a year before it rolls around again. If you like, PM me and let me know a little more detail about the nature your friend's reservations and concerns, and we'll brainstorm and see if we can find ways to assuage them, and maybe find ways to encourage him to explore this with you. If you and I can't figure anything out, I'll direct you to some other people more knowledgeable and experienced, and you can see if there's anything they'd suggest, okay?

Keep the faith!
 
chickles_:) said:
Hiya Capnmad!:bunny:

There's something, Any advice on going in for the NEST when you're connected witha guy who probably doesn't want to go??

Anyway, thanks for the advice... If i ever do get to one of these, i'll have a better idea of how to make it good! :veryhappy

many blessings,
Chickles:redheart:

I hope you don't mind my answering this one as well, Chickles.. I've been the reluctant other party.. :scared:

My husband has been interested in tickling for most of his life. It was not until we'd been together for almost three years before the subject was really brought into the open between us. Not that he hid the interest, browsing tickling sites, downloading pictures, etc. I finally came out and asked and he was very frank about his interests. I love the man, so I tried to understand. I joined the TMF, primarily as a lurker, hoping for some interesting insight from someone here. I just couldn't get my mind around the idea of a whole community based around an interest in tickling.. *TICKLING* for gods sake! I guess it coulda been diapers and a binky, so I got lucky right? :manicd:

Anyway, when Ray and I were invited to a gathering (SBGI) back in 2001, I know Ray probably had the same nervous feelings that you may be having about your significant other. I was reluctant, scared, and very definite that my attending was only to let him get it out of his system, although I worked very hard to go in being open-minded. Knowing that QB Weaver and DVNC were assisting NJjen with hosting the gathering as well as attending helped. They are both very experienced gathering organizers and openly advocate safe play. That did not stop me from lining up my alternate plans, so we'd have something to do when I freaked and wanted to leave.

Walking into the hotel suite where the gathering was being held was rather surreal. I was immediately greeted like a long lost friend, cheerfully invited to join a tickling vendetta against the *still* unroken TTD, then went into the smokers / conversation lounge to get to know other attendees. The fact that this gathering was only about 20 people at any given time may have helped as well. Needless to say, some of the friends we made at that first gathering are some of our dearest to this day. We are actually attending two weddings this year, and both are friends originally met at that gathering. Due to those incredible almost instant friendships, my comfort level was such that I actually participated in a few tickling "scenes" and found that I enjoyed it. Sometimes too much! LOL

Keep in mind that smaller gatherings are being held all around, and might be easier ways to get your significant others feet wet. You might also see if any around you host "munches", which are basically luncheons with others from the community, just a way to make the friends without the onus of having to play, or praying someone will let you play with them. Doing so might make first gatherings far easier, especially if you are lucky enough to have any of your munch friends attend.

I hope that we'll see you next year! ;-)
 
In short

Don't hesitate!!! :xpulcy: This group is truly amazing -- I've been lurking for years also, and am soooo glad I finally went. If I was comfortable, as a neurotic voyeur (or "voyeuse," thank you Jonmath!! :bump: ) there's *certainly nothing to worry about!! 🙄

Take the normal safety precautions you would while traveling, like calling a close family member or friend when you arrive, or having them call you, giving them your basic travel info as you would for any other trip, such as your hotel & room number so they can contact you,
so both you & your family feel more secure,

but you'll quickly realize you really are in a very protective circle of friends, as cliche'd as that may sound (yes I also pretended this was a "professional conference" so as not to freak out the family...) but as long as you exercise common sense & plan ahead
(and visit QB as soon as possible!! :dogpile: ) you'll quickly be enveloped in a positive blast :atom:
 
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