After last night's speech by Bush......

[Bugman]

Lionhart wants me to run for president in 08,would you care to be my V.P.? 😀

 

[maniactickler]

Primetime is right. Osama knows that liberalism has weakened this country.

 

[kis123]

Liars,theves,alcoholics and drug addicts? I thought we were talking about the Bush family,not the Kennedys.

No, we're talking about the BUSH family; the Kennedys are no longer in office and I personally don't care about them-they've had their run. I'm concerned about who's in office now and who's tearing our country apart.

We can spend billions on a war in Iraq we're not winning while people struggle to survive right here in the US; he's the worst president I've ever had to live with.

 

[Bugman]

You must be to young to remember Jimmy Carter,kis.But i still respect you and like you.😀

 

[kis123]

i didnt get the see (or hear) the speech, but it amazes me how many people criticize Bush. is he the best President ever? no. is he the worst? depends on your point of view. and out of curiousity, how many of these "Bush is an idiot" posters are Democrats. i think an overwhelming majority are.

nothing wrong with that, but keep this in mind. if the United States leaves, everything isnt going to be rosy. Iraq will turn into an abyss of complete chaos. if that happens, guess who gets the blame? the United States. once our troops leave and the Iraqis destroy themselves, the same people criticizing Bush now, will criticize that he didnt "clean up the mess he made". the United States is "damned if we do, damned if we dont".

another thing that concerns me is what Mr. Osama Bin Laden said about us Americans. he believes that Americans do not have the stomach for a long conflict. he knew that if this country gets into a "fight" that doesnt end quickly, the American public will sour and demand that we "retreat". face it, Americans like "instant gratification". it hurts me to say it, but Osama is right. Americans do not have the patience to win a war. from the outset, Bush said this wasnt going to be quick and this "war on terror" was going to take years, but lo and behold, Americans are crying that we should leave. my opinion is this, we leave now, those terrorists and other "rogue" nations will have the confidence that the United States can be beaten. look how bold Osama got when the Russians left Afghanistan. there is no way in hell Afghanistan should have been able to hold off the Soviets but they did and that emboldened Bin Laden. he called us a "paper tiger". everyone knows we have the power to destroy anything in our path, so to fight us, they cant fight the way we normally see conflict. it's a patience game for them. everyday of their lives they are in some kind of battle. what's a typical American conflict on a daily basis? "should i get fries with that?".

Basically Osama called us a bunch of punks and bitches with no guts to fight. he KNEW the American public would start to get tired of war and start complaining because the war is not "over" yet. guess what? he is right. i have friends that served in Iraq and yeah, it sucks to be over there. soldiers are dying over there and it is a truly tragic thing. but, leaving will not be a good idea until everything can be stabilized over there. leaving will only cause MORE problems, not less. if you want to complain about Americans dying, can we please have the same kind of outrage with gang violence in this country, which is taking MORE INNOCENT LIVES than the entire Iraq conflict? naw, as long as the gang violence doesnt come into your life, why should you care about that innocent little girl that gets caught in cross-fire? why should you care about kids getting shot because of they accidently crossed into gang territory? no, Americans want to bitch about a conflict that we need to see to the end. we have no choice people.

okay, send your angry responses my way...just remember though. you have your opinion, i have mine....

I personally don't want one of those punks or bit**es dying to prove how tough we are ending up my son or even daughter. I'd rather be a living punk than a dead hero fighting in a war that NEVER had to happen in the first place. He went past the UN, other nations, and even Americans to get in this war, now he says "oops?" Give me a friggin' break!

Osama has a point; his people have thousands of years of constant fighting in the Middle East. We're really no match for them on the long term. Send all the troops you want, they'll just keep sending more. They have basically worn folks out and will continue until we quit or end up killing everything over there.

Who told you I didn't care about the gang problem in this country? I have two houses across the street from me that I know drug activity is happening. Hey, since they are so good at killing over territory, send them to the middle east instead of troops with decent jobs, families, and lives. I wouldn't cry one tear over some gang banger getting his butt blown away over there-that's one less strain on my tax dollars IMO.

There's always a choice, either end the war by blowing Iraq off the map, or end it by sending the troops home. The longer this war goes on, the stronger and confident they get. We're playing into their game now; whether you like it or not, it's the truth.

 

[kis123]

You must be to young to remember Jimmy Carter,kis.But i still respect you and like you.😀

I remember six years of Nixon and two years of Ford; how could anyone realistically expect Carter to have great success after those two? He had nothing to work with but past scandal, screw up, and poorly attempted clean ups-I think he didn't deserve all the bad rap he took over his presidency.

There is nothing on earth that'll convince me that our present president isn't the worst one in my history.

 

[tkrexx]

Hmm...I heard talk of oil fields worth dying for? Once again I'm forced to quote a Professor from the old shool daze: By the year 2000 we'll be fueling all our vehicles with straight ethyl alocohol. He failed to predict, however, that the oil companies do not yet own all the farms, so that alternative fuel thing will be out of the question for the foreseeable future, no matter who is Pres. After all, who backs every Pres candidate? Think the Pres is gonna cut his own strings? Do any of you think the U.S. would have any interest at all in the Middle East if we grew a new crop of cheap gas every year? And yes, despite what the oil co.- led experts tell you, producing that sort of feul IS alot cheaper.

 

[Babbles]

In short

I remember six years of Nixon and two years of Ford; how could anyone realistically expect Carter to have great success after those two? He had nothing to work with but past scandal, screw up, and poorly attempted clean ups-I think he didn't deserve all the bad rap he took over his presidency.

There is nothing on earth that'll convince me that our present president isn't the worst one in my history.

Yes, exactly -- and this utter imbecile puppet inherited the first secured, balanced budget in HOW many presidencies?

From the non-military scholar who was lambasted by Republicans for avoiding Vietnam to enjoy a Rhodes scholarship, possibly inhaling a few times and having affairs which were only his wife's business. But that minor misconduct was supposedly "impeachable"

while this inarticulate, & more importantly *uninformed, AWOL yuppie allowed himself to be manipulated into office, numerous times, into killing thousands unnecessarily as governor, and president, with an illegal war ---
he did NOT adhere to UN policy, did NOT wait another mere few weeks,
IGNORED his own ambassador (& others) who announced there were no *traces of WMD, before and after
OUTED said ambassador's CIA agent wife (or allowed someone else to do so) resulting in the likely deaths and torture of who knows how many others agents,
and of who knows how many Iraqis and others falsely accused & mistreated by our military in a lovely international scandal, or now, those civilians drawn into the uncivil chaos created by this bumbling administration

because he had NO ENTRY PLAN, NO EXIT PLAN, NO PLAN PERIOD,
NO SUPPORT, he flushed international good will and sympathy over 9/11 to abandon Osama BinWho? as tkrexx put it, in effect
to INVADE a country with a dictator who should've been removed by the UN with international support

NO BODY ARMOR for innumerable soldiers (but Halliburton's raking it in, see Cheney's smug hunter's grin...)
NO FORESIGHT with regard to the destruction of (forget the thousands of innocent Iraqis & Americans who've died due to his gross negligence here)
THE ANCIENT MESOPOTAMIAN TREASURES, THE SOUL OF IRAQ
THE HANGING GARDENS OF BABYLON, ONE OF THE ANCIENT WONDERS OF THE WORLD now swept into uninformed American sandbags or plundered from Saddam's palaces and unguarded museums

Sooooo
Our rather positive international standing after 9/11 and the successful retribution against the literally evil Taliban who were annihilating the Afghani people's standard of living for decades

was flushed along with the surplus, in tax breaks for the mega-rich
trickling down to a few hundred, if that, for the average schmuck

along with social security

along with education (leaving too many minds FAR behind these damn standardized tests,
we're growing test-taking robots here, people, like our proud C student president)

along with innumerable environmental protections this toxic oilman has REVERSED, domestically and internationally
----and THAT makes us even MORE popular with the rest of the world, as we guzzle & pollute everyone else's resources, as if this invasion wasn't stupid, selfish & shortsighted enough

But this isn't global warming, and polar bears are just fine thanks, since the ancient ice caps aren't suddenly crumbling and they don't need to swim 60 miles to get to more food and shelter.


And no healthcare improvements, quite the reverse. Canadian borders are closed, and what was that nice little FLU SHOT SHORTAGE that ran rampant last year because Duhhbya didn't allow for enough serum to be produced or brought in?

Pharmaceutical companies (and insurance) are bleeding us to death "legally," and NOW seniors can't even get meds from Canada, much less FLU SHOTS.

And oil & gas is skyhigh "because of the war..."
EXCEPT prices plummet before the November elections. Gee. 🙄

And let's not forget THE OTHER UNNECESSARY DISASTER which was KATRINA. Who gives a flying pig's tucas about poor Democrats?
GORE moved faster to save more people than our "president" who didn't pay a bit of attention to the ADVANCED NOTICE everyone else received, along with the unqualified FEMA head who also got his job via nepotism.

OH, and his favored head of the CIA can't tell you the difference between Sunnis and Shiites, or the significance of such information generally..... Yes, Bush's father headed the CIA at one time, and if this is any reflection....

You do realize the Europeans have been LTAO for the past six years, along with the rest of the world, when they're not shaking their heads and spitting blood.

 

[tickledgirl]

Your filling your students heads with liberal propaganda? this is why i say the education system is failing in this country. the liberal education machine is poisoning our kids.

The education system is failing so badly that people don't even know the difference between "Your" and "You're." It's disgraceful!

 

[maniactickler]

The education system is failing so badly that people don't even know the difference between "Your" and "You're." It's disgraceful!

Lets not nit pick now. YOU'RE embarrassing yourself here.

 

[maniactickler]

I remember six years of Nixon and two years of Ford; how could anyone realistically expect Carter to have great success after those two? He had nothing to work with but past scandal, screw up, and poorly attempted clean ups-I think he didn't deserve all the bad rap he took over his presidency.

There is nothing on earth that'll convince me that our present president isn't the worst one in my history.

Please dont make excuses for the weakest, most pathetic president to ever serve this country. (carter) even with things the way they are, carter couldnt hold Bushs jock strap.

 

[kis123]

Please dont make excuses for the weakest, most pathetic president to ever serve this country. (carter) even with things the way they are, carter couldnt hold Bushs jock strap.

Get real!!!

Hell, by the way he's been running the country the last six years, I didn't know Bush had a place to put a jock strap! He will go down as the worst president in my lifetime's history-just wait and see.

Carter attempted to bring fairness and compassion in a place where there was no room for it and that was his only mistake!

Let's leave the foreign policy stuff for a bit because both said presidents failed miserably. At least under the Carter administration we could afford to go to school! How many Americans are in thousands of dollars of debt in the name of education? I'll probably get my AARP card before I finish paying for mine!

Did you know that the pell grant maximum set in Carter's administration is the same amount over two decades later? Under the Bush administration, there are no good paying trade jobs. It seems like nowadays, you have to get a bachelors degree for dog-catching! Why can't he help making college more affordable? Then again, why can't he control a war he started? Why hasn't he done anything domestically except vote that marriage is a union between a man and a woman? Why bushie? Why?

At least I got you to graduate out of the Tourette's thing and blurt short paragraphs as opposed to you six-words-or-less outbursts. See, I knew I could help you with something..........

 

[Vae]

The education system is failing so badly that people don't even know the difference between "Your" and "You're." It's disgraceful!

Ah, touche. 🙂

 

[maniactickler]

Get real!!!

Hell, by the way he's been running the country the last six years, I didn't know Bush had a place to put a jock strap! He will go down as the worst president in my lifetime's history-just wait and see.

Carter attempted to bring fairness and compassion in a place where there was no room for it and that was his only mistake!

Let's leave the foreign policy stuff for a bit because both said presidents failed miserably. At least under the Carter administration we could afford to go to school! How many Americans are in thousands of dollars of debt in the name of education? I'll probably get my AARP card before I finish paying for mine!

Did you know that the pell grant maximum set in Carter's administration is the same amount over two decades later? Under the Bush administration, there are no good paying trade jobs. It seems like nowadays, you have to get a bachelors degree for dog-catching! Why can't he help making college more affordable? Then again, why can't he control a war he started? Why hasn't he done anything domestically except vote that marriage is a union between a man and a woman? Why bushie? Why?

At least I got you to graduate out of the Tourette's thing and blurt short paragraphs as opposed to you six-words-or-less outbursts. See, I knew I could help you with something..........

I disagree.

 

[kis123]

I disagree.

With which part? Would you like to elaborate or do I get to guess? 😉

Or are you doing to six-words-or-less thing again?

 

[maniactickler]

With which part? Would you like to elaborate or do I get to guess? 😉

Or are you doing to six-words-or-less thing again?

Im doing my tourettes thing that you enjoy.

 

[primetime]

this is hilarious to call the current President the worst ever. hell, how can a President be considered a failure? the last time i checked, the United States is still a country that exists and not taken over by another nation. the United States still has the Bill of Rights. most Americans are not confronted with terrorist violence every day (save for gang violence). most Americans have jobs. Most Americans arent starving. if a President was truly bad, i think our overall quality of life would be vastly different. but nooooo, Bush is a failure and he is the worst President ever because he sent us to Iraq. funny how it was DEMOCRATIC Presidents that escalated the Vietnam war, but the Republicans are the evil ones... give me a damn break. all 43 Presidents (in reality, 42 individuals) have made sure our country is still in one piece. If Bush ever signs our surrender to another foreign power, and our way of life is gone, then you can call him the worst President ever. until then, stop griping because you are not in his shoes.

i know, i know, you can do a better job. yeah, right.

 

[drew70]

The education system is failing so badly that people don't even know the difference between "Your" and "You're." It's disgraceful!

Yes, almost as disgraceful as resorting to spelling and typos to put down one's opponent. Bottom of the barrel for any on line debate, but hardly surprising.

 

[maniactickler]

this is hilarious to call the current President the worst ever. hell, how can a President be considered a failure? the last time i checked, the United States is still a country that exists and not taken over by another nation. the United States still has the Bill of Rights. most Americans are not confronted with terrorist violence every day (save for gang violence). most Americans have jobs. Most Americans arent starving. if a President was truly bad, i think our overall quality of life would be vastly different. but nooooo, Bush is a failure and he is the worst President ever because he sent us to Iraq. funny how it was DEMOCRATIC Presidents that escalated the Vietnam war, but the Republicans are the evil ones... give me a damn break. all 43 Presidents (in reality, 42 individuals) have made sure our country is still in one piece. If Bush ever signs our surrender to another foreign power, and our way of life is gone, then you can call him the worst President ever. until then, stop griping because you are not in his shoes.

i know, i know, you can do a better job. yeah, right.

This is to be expected by your typical liberal Bush bashers. if he invented the cure for cancer and ended world hunger, theyd still hate him. theres no hope for them.

 

[kis123]

this is hilarious to call the current President the worst ever. hell, how can a President be considered a failure? the last time i checked, the United States is still a country that exists and not taken over by another nation. the United States still has the Bill of Rights. most Americans are not confronted with terrorist violence every day (save for gang violence). most Americans have jobs. Most Americans arent starving. if a President was truly bad, i think our overall quality of life would be vastly different. but nooooo, Bush is a failure and he is the worst President ever because he sent us to Iraq. funny how it was DEMOCRATIC Presidents that escalated the Vietnam war, but the Republicans are the evil ones... give me a damn break. all 43 Presidents (in reality, 42 individuals) have made sure our country is still in one piece. If Bush ever signs our surrender to another foreign power, and our way of life is gone, then you can call him the worst President ever. until then, stop griping because you are not in his shoes.

i know, i know, you can do a better job. yeah, right.

As a matter of fact, I do think I could do much better. I'd start by listening to the people who elected me in the first place. They didn't want to go to war remember primetime? Remeber all the polls and protests primetime-Americans didn't want to go to Iraq. But Saddam had WMD and that is a huge US issue. Oh, Saddam was buddies with Osama who, btw there has NEVER been any legitimate proof he was the great 911 mastermind, has there?

I think before I sent thousands more troops over the last five years, I would have periodically assessed success. I also would have been training Iraqi to defend their own country so we could eventually transitioned out.

Instead we have over 3000 Americans dead, thousands more wounded, thousands more than that mentally scarred and damaged who just get sent home to deal with it on their own. Why is there no real program waiting for soldiers when they come home from Iraq to help transition them back into civilian life and make sure they're okay? No such program exists and I've talked to enough soldiers' families to know this is true. They struggle to find sanity on their own primetime, or did you know that?

I wouldn't have just looked at things short term since my daddy was able to end the Gulf War so quickly. I would've respected the fact that the Middle East has been at war since practically the beginning of time and they don't mind dying for their beliefs regardless of what Americans think about them.

You know in Native American culture, when there was a decision to be made, the thought process went through six generations. In some Asian cultures, they map out decisions over 100 years (which is why they're always ahead of us in business, education, and other levels). This president doesn't impress me as following his decision making through six minutes!

Cmon' prime, he blew it plain and simple! But you and maniac go in flames with him if you want to. Besides, you'll probably never know how I would ever handle it; your white house won't accept my brown-skinned self in there to find out anyway. So although I've made plenty of better decisions than he has made to date, the world will never benefit from them because Americans love their white men in the white house.

I don't know where you live, but I see signs of failure all over the place, people are leaving my city and state in droves because there are no real jobs here. Even those with bachelor and masters degrees are hard pressed to find jobs that will appropriately pay them per their education and experience. I'm making about 15,000 less per year on the average because it's either that or be unemployed. I shouldn't have to move in order to find work-local jobs should be available.

And since you've repeatedly mentioned gang-violence, what is being done about that? Let me answer that for you-nothing! He's such a great president who really cares for Americans; what has he done about it? Nothing! I have a solution for that too; since these gang-bangers love to kill over territory, I'd gather them up and send them to Iraq instead of troops who are decent people raising families and living decent lives. Since they have no respect for human life anyway, their dying in Iraq is of little consequence to me.

And maniac, the man is entirely too self-absorbed to solve anything like curing cancer and world hunger. Hell, he hasn't lifted a finger to help with poverty and hunger right here in America. He's so busy with his Iraq baby that he's basically bastardized his own people here in the US. If you want to argue that prime, answer me one question: in the six years he's been president, what has he done domestically of any importance that you can remember?

 

[kis123]

Im doing my tourettes thing that you enjoy.

Ummm......now try to go back to my previous post and attempt to post something of substance to back up your statements provided that you can manage that. The Tourette's thing's really getting old.......

 

[tickledgirl]

Yes, almost as disgraceful as resorting to spelling and typos to put down one's opponent. Bottom of the barrel for any on line debate, but hardly surprising.

Context is everything. (Though that'd mean you would have to read maniac screeching, so I can see why you skipped that.)

Ordinarily I agree, and I normally don't comment on grammar or spelling. But if you post about the horrid state of education, you should try to avoid looking uneducated yourself.

 

[primetime]

that's why i find this bashing of Bush hilarious. the way people react towards this man, they make it seem like this country is falling apart at the seams. granted, would i ever call "Dubya" the best President ever? hell no. but the worst? come on, give me a break.

again, our country is STILL the best nation out there. would you rather live in any other country than this one? this country is still functioning, just like when people say Carter was a "bad President", just like everyone under the sun complained that Bush Sr. was destroying the country, just like Herbert Hoover destroyed the nation, just like Lyndon Johnson was sending our kids to their deaths in Vietnam.

bottom line is, the biggest complainers of a President are USUALLY from the opposite party. if there is a Democrat in office, the Republicans are complaining that the President is a joke. if there is a Republican in office, the Democrats are crying that he's an imbecile and destroying our nation. dont people see that no matter who's in office, society will never be close to perfect? no matter who's in office, we will still have major problems in American society. Kis, you talk about what Bush has done with the gang problem, well, what the hell did Clinton do? gangs STILL exist whether Bush is in office or not. it is more of a local government responsibility to curb gang warfare.

people also tend to forget that the President doesnt have absolute power. you think Bush can just wave a wand and everything that ills American society will go away? no, he has to go through Congress and the rest of the politicians. Bill Clinton said he would improve the healthcare of this nation. did he? if he did, what, Bush came in and reversed everything? c'mon people, stop blaming one man. Kis, you keep crying over the fact that Bush is sending troops to a quagmire. well, do you have the SAME criticisms about John F Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson? those were Democratic Presidents sending troops into a war that made no sense. At least with Iraq, we're supposedly fighting for oil. what the hell was Vietnam about? it was a Republican President who got us out of Nam.

bottom line, stop bitching about one man. did he make mistakes? yes. is he the worst ever? no. i am telling you right now, leaving Iraq in the state it's in will be a bigger mistake than leaving our troops there. until Iraq gets stable and their government can actually fend for itself, we need to be there. leaving the country in a mess will only embolden terrorists and rogue nations that they can beat the United States. they know we have impatient people who will not have the will power to finish the job. and if you think about it, how true is that of our society? we start something, but never finish. this mentality was not caused by Bush. it has been caused by so many good years of war free times. Americans as a whole have no idea what it is like to battle every day like people in other countries. what other nation do you know that is preoccupied with diet programs? they wish they can be "fat" like us Americans. when will people see that our society better straighten itself out and stop relying on one man to save them? whatever happened to self responsibility? no, we cant have that. The President needs to save us from everything.

like i said, unless you are the President of the United States, you will never know how difficult the job really is. will that stop you from complaining? nope.... but at least try to understand.

 

[kis123]

I never said the US is a bad country; I said Dubya's a sucky president!

If this country let people like me or some very talented people of different gender and skin color run things, maybe we'd get more than the same old tired rhetoric and crap that's been shoved down our throats since this country's inception. But I doubt if it'll ever happen in my lifetime because the old school of thought that this country should be run by white men is very much entrenched and I don't see it changing any time soon.

You're not getting the best and brightest, you're getting the richest and who can raise the most money and can sling the most mud during a campaign. Hell, he's the first president in my lifetime who was nearly taken to the Supreme Court because of the issues surrounding the votes in his brother's state. Give me a break, there's a lot of mud and blood on his hands.

As far as Johnson and Kennedy are concerned they have their share of blood too. You do remember how Kennedy died right? Those who live by the sword....

As an American citizen, I do have the right to free speech whether you like it or not. I am free to say that I didn't vote for him and that he's done nothing positive for this country. You have yet to answer my question; what has he done domestically for this country in six years? You know why you won't answer that? Because he's done NOTHING and you know it! Just because you voted for him and he's a total flop, don't get upset with me because I'm telling the truth about him. And yes, if I was old enough to vote for Carter, I would have and I would've been on the receiving end of some tough and sometimes undeserving criticism. So I guess I should understand why you and your Bush-ites defend him so.

I voted Clinton in office and talked about him like a junkyard dog when he messed up. But even he hasn't messed up to this extent and you know it.

 

[maniactickler]

As a matter of fact, I do think I could do much better. I'd start by listening to the people who elected me in the first place. They didn't want to go to war remember primetime? Remeber all the polls and protests primetime-Americans didn't want to go to Iraq. But Saddam had WMD and that is a huge US issue. Oh, Saddam was buddies with Osama who, btw there has NEVER been any legitimate proof he was the great 911 mastermind, has there?

I think before I sent thousands more troops over the last five years, I would have periodically assessed success. I also would have been training Iraqi to defend their own country so we could eventually transitioned out.

Instead we have over 3000 Americans dead, thousands more wounded, thousands more than that mentally scarred and damaged who just get sent home to deal with it on their own. Why is there no real program waiting for soldiers when they come home from Iraq to help transition them back into civilian life and make sure they're okay? No such program exists and I've talked to enough soldiers' families to know this is true. They struggle to find sanity on their own primetime, or did you know that?

I wouldn't have just looked at things short term since my daddy was able to end the Gulf War so quickly. I would've respected the fact that the Middle East has been at war since practically the beginning of time and they don't mind dying for their beliefs regardless of what Americans think about them.

You know in Native American culture, when there was a decision to be made, the thought process went through six generations. In some Asian cultures, they map out decisions over 100 years (which is why they're always ahead of us in business, education, and other levels). This president doesn't impress me as following his decision making through six minutes!

Cmon' prime, he blew it plain and simple! But you and maniac go in flames with him if you want to. Besides, you'll probably never know how I would ever handle it; your white house won't accept my brown-skinned self in there to find out anyway. So although I've made plenty of better decisions than he has made to date, the world will never benefit from them because Americans love their white men in the white house.

I don't know where you live, but I see signs of failure all over the place, people are leaving my city and state in droves because there are no real jobs here. Even those with bachelor and masters degrees are hard pressed to find jobs that will appropriately pay them per their education and experience. I'm making about 15,000 less per year on the average because it's either that or be unemployed. I shouldn't have to move in order to find work-local jobs should be available.

And since you've repeatedly mentioned gang-violence, what is being done about that? Let me answer that for you-nothing! He's such a great president who really cares for Americans; what has he done about it? Nothing! I have a solution for that too; since these gang-bangers love to kill over territory, I'd gather them up and send them to Iraq instead of troops who are decent people raising families and living decent lives. Since they have no respect for human life anyway, their dying in Iraq is of little consequence to me.

And maniac, the man is entirely too self-absorbed to solve anything like curing cancer and world hunger. Hell, he hasn't lifted a finger to help with poverty and hunger right here in America. He's so busy with his Iraq baby that he's basically bastardized his own people here in the US. If you want to argue that prime, answer me one question: in the six years he's been president, what has he done domestically of any importance that you can remember?

Hes kept the economy in pretty damn good shape after 911. not too mention hes done a good job of protecting us from anymore terrorist attacks here. maybe hes not the best president we've ever had, but id sure take him over any worthless liberal president any day of the weak.