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Any astronomy enthusiasts here...

ticklishscribe

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Any astronomy enthusiasts here, I have a question...

I'm thinking of buying a telescope and I need some advice.
 
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I know very little about astronomy, except the galaxy is amazing to look at
 
Hi Scribe , In Irvine California there is a quality telescope company named MEADE . From their selection they have a model thats preprogramed to help you find what you looking for. You will be paying for the quality. Hope this helps you and enjoy it , sure alot to see .
 
ticklishscribe said:
I'm thinking of buying a telescope and I need some advice.

Point the big lens at the sky and look through the little lens. Not the other way around. 😀
 
My father used to have a very nice telescope, it was a Meade refracting telescope (don't know what size but it was pretty big) that he connected to his laptop. On his laptop he had a program called "stargazer" (i think, this was a few years ago) that not only had celestial landmarks programmed into it but allowed you to save your own points to return to each day. You just tell the program where you want to go and the laptop tells the telescope and it moves for you.
 
More than you want to know, perhaps.

Hi,

I'm an astronomy professor, and get this question all the time from my students. You didn't say how much you already know, so I'll assume you're starting out.

There are two big questions to consider: what's your budget, and do you want to be able to take pictures through the 'scope?

If you want to spend less than $200 to $300, buy binoculars and a decent tripod instead. A pair of $200 binoculars on a steady tripod will show you more than a wobbly, cheap telescope that will end up in the back of your closet. Many people start with a scope in the $300 to $500 range, and if they get hooked, go on to a second scope in the same price range as a computer, $1,000 to $1,500. (Of course, I know an orthopedic surgeon with a $45,000 teak, mahogany, and brass scope looking out through a scratched-up plexiglass skylight in his bedroom!)

Buying a telescope is like buying a computer or being a good 'ler, it's all about performance. With a computer, you want the fastest machine you can get for your budget. With a telescope you want the largest diameter (aperture, they call it) for your money. If the tripod is sturdy (and most over $300 will be), everything else is secondary. Get the largest scope you can afford; you can always add accessories later.

Don't be fooled by ads for flimsy department store scopes that brag about the "power" (magnification) of the telescope. Any telescope can give you any magnification! Telescopes have at least two optical elements. There's the big lens or mirror that collects the light (the objective). It's the expensive heart of the telescope, and changing it would be like changing the processor chip in your computer. But then there's the little eyepiece lens on the other end. It's a lot cheaper, and they both affect the magnification. So when you own a telescope, you buy 2 to 4 eyepieces (at a few tens of dollars a piece), and swap them out to change the magnification. Since more magnification gives you blurrier images, you usually end up using low or medium magnification.

The choice of refractor (all lenses) versus reflector (an objective mirror) is pretty much irrelevant in the price range of beginning scopes, but if you go for a second scope in the $1000 range, you'll want to read up on the choices first.

The other big question is, do you want to take pictures? You'll need a camera that can take time exposures (a "bulb" setting), an adapter to fit the camera onto the telescope (often called a t-adapter which fits to an adapter ring specific to you camera body, usually a small few tens of dollars), and most importantly, a motor-driven telescope that will compensate for the Earth's rotation and follow the motion of the stars as they rise and set. That can add a couple hundred to the cost of your scope, but if you want to take pictures, it's well worth it.

A good place to check out brands is in the two major astronomy hobby magazines, Sky & Telescope (available at most book stores) or Astronomy (available at bookstores and many groceries). They only accept ads from reputable dealers. Both have buyer's guides in the January issues, and both have beginner's suggestions online at:

http://SkyandTelescope.com/howto/scopes/article_241_1.asp

and

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=ss&id=9

I also recommend finding your local hobby group. Most of them have public viewing sessions where you can look at and through a variety of scopes and talk to the owners - find out what they like and don't like.

Many motorized scopes today are "go to" scopes. You can use a handpaddle or connect to planetarium software such as The Sky on a laptop. After setting them up and telling them the time and location, you simply select an object from the list on the handpaddle, or click on an object on the sky chart on the laptop, and the telescope points to it. Great for finding lots of things quickly, but it can be a crutch that keeps you from learning your way around the sky, one of the real joys of the hobby. I have one but only use it when I just cant find things by "star-hopping" with a good chart.

Go easy on accessories to start. Get a scope with a sturdy tripod and maybe three eyepieces. Spend a little more for a good low-power, wide-angle eyepiece - you won't regret it! (I have a high power eyepiece that atmospheric conditions allow me to make use of a few times a year, but I spent $120 for a good low-power, wide-angle eyepiece that I love!) Get a good guidebook, and maybe some software that displays star charts (Voyager, The Sky, Starry Night are all very good, but top-end. You can download freeware to start, and there are places online like Heavens-Above.com where you can print out simple constellation charts, but they won't specifically show good telescope targets.) Things like filters can come later.

A personal hint. I'm often hearing from students who spent hundreds or over a thousand dollars on a good scope, took it out a few times, got disappointed, and haven't used it in years. Their problem was that they didn't learn what to look at. They pointed it at several bright stars, found they all looked alike, and gave up. At the beginning level, it's not about stars. It's about planets, nebulae, galaxies, star clusters, comets, etc., and you have to learn where to find them. Invest in a good beginner's guide book for telescope owners, with a decent set of star charts. My personal favorite, which I use routinely, is Nightwatch by Terence Dickinson. A good beginner's list of targets is the hundred or so Messier objects. Mr. Charles Messier was a comet hunter who created a list of nuisance objects he kept seeing and suspecting they were comets. The list includes many of the brightest star clusters, nebulae, and galaxies. [Since planets are always moving, you won't find them printed on the charts in books. You'll have to go to charts in magazines or online to find them.]

OK, enough rambling; I hope this helps! I'll shut up now!

Feel free to e-mail me if I can answer any questions.

🙂 E. Bunbury
 
Thanks to all...

You have offered some excellent advice that has greatly narrowed my search. You might say I am now looking at individual stars rather a whole galaxy :happyfloa :Hyrdrogen y.
 
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ticklishscribe said:
You have offered some excellent advice that has greatly narrowed my search. You might say I am now looking at individual stars rather a whole galax :happyfloa :Hyrdrogen y.

Hiya, scrib'ler :bunny:
I confess i'm into star watching too. Which among my friends makes me a strange girl but im used to it... being THIS ticklish certainly creates that image too! :blaugh:

Anyway, thanks for bringing this up. i so miss the stars where i am now... way too much light pollution. I will never forget the first time i saw Saturn or the moons of Jupiter with my own eyes (telescope aided of course but still it wasn't pix) I was like :atom: :atom: :atom: :bowing: TOTALLY AWESOME!

Stargazing is also really romantic! being alone on a cool night so close to point out the stars that you can feel his breath on your hair,,, anyway you get the picture.:cupid:

thanks Ebunbury for the telescope advice!! You really know your stuff!

Many blessings,
Chickles :redheart:
 
Ok, I've got some comments to toss into the ring:

1. Meade makes excellent scopes and binoculars.

2. so does Celestron, but I think their prices are a little higher.

3. you get more aperture-bang for the buck with a reflector (mirror) than with a refractor (all lenses). A five inch refractor runs about $850, which will buy 14 inches in a reflector with a Dobsonian mount (primitive but effective).
If you want a 14-inch refractor you must first take out a second mortgage on your house.

4. refractors are great for the moon and the planets, but reflectors (with the larger aperture) are better for nebulae (galaxies, Crab Nebula, etc).

For terrestrial viewing, refractors win hands-down, because with a reflector the image is upside down ( don't ever try that with a hangover).

5. I recommend against computerized 'finder' scopes for three reasons:

a. you miss the joy of learning the sky.
b. pricier.
c. they're a bitch to set up properly (must be exactly pointed and exactly level to work right. Correct me if I'm wrong here EBunbury. By the time setup is complete, the sun's up and it's time to go home anyway).

6. I also recommend against equatorial mounts (follow the sky) for the same reasons presented in 5(b) and 5(c).

7. If you want a reflector, go with the Dobsonian mount, but first be sure your vehicle can transport it. They're pretty big.

8. If you want a refractor, go with either a 3-inch (80mm), or a five-inch (130mm). I recommend the 5-inch. Go with a simple tripod mount.

Bottom line, get yourself a Meade 5-inch refractor with a tripod, just like mine 😀
 
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re telescope ?

+ 1 on everything that E Bunberry said.
PS Here is a link to a page on NASA's site where you can ascertain the times when the International Space Station and or the Space Shuttle can be seen. Note, good binoculars are best for this viewing due to the speed of the objects.
 
Thanks for everyonne's responses...

What do people think of the skywatcher brand?
 
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