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Army Vs. Marines

ShiningIce

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After talking to my Marine friend I was informed that the Marines do all the work while the army sits on their asses and takes all the credit!! Could both Marine and Army personel respond to this accusation???
 
If he's talking about ops, then, hmmm... take Camp X-ray, for example. The Marines were charged with establishing a POW camp for Al-Qaeda members in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Once we set it up, we wait for the JTF to get there to maintain it. This is made up mostly of Army personnel (This is the tactful explanation. We enjoy talking sh*t about the other branches all the time! It's all in good fun! For my own little escapade in trash-talking, go here.)
 
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Is hand to hand combat in the Marines superior to all other armed forces fighting??
 
Sigh!...

As a former Air Force officer...

Marines are:

Butch, budweiser on head crushing types (this qualifies as intellectual stimulation for them, since it involves their brain case and printed material).

Almost never as dumb as they look (but there are exceptions).

Out living in trailer-parks after retirement.

Air Force personnel are:

Generally less disciplined in the lower ranks, and more disciplined as you go higher in the E-rating.

Many of the officers are smug, self-righteous pricks (we have that in common with the navy), but generally have a REAL education of some sort. This only means that air force cluster-***** are usually at least more interesting than marine ones.

Army personnel are:

Individuals who ASK to be let into the trailer-parks, and are generally turned away. Sometimes can get a job cleaning them, though.

Usually alcoholics, florid faced by the time they make E-4. Heart conditions abound.

Try to join the American Legion Before they retire, for the free beer.

Naval Personnel:

Generally, even more smug and self-righteous than Air Force personnel are.

Very happy to have a nearly unlimited budget (Air Force next, then Marines and army fight over the scraps, guess who wins 😉 ).

Are at least sticklers for personal hygeine, which is more than can be said about the army! All that scrubbing bulkheads makes them "scrubbers for life".

Avoid marines whenever possible, since they tend to leak bodily fluids randomly (stains the dress whites, don't you know!).

🙂

Biscuit
 
oh boy now this is a great topic!!!

a chance to rip on the lesser services! lmao!
just going by regular service members, and not including the snake eater types, the toughest are the marines (also the dumbest). next are the army (too inlove with comfort to be marines).next are the rust picking squids, thats navy to the uninitiated. then lastly the biggest pussys of all the air farce!
now if we include the snake eaters, the seals are number one, followed by army green berets, next marine recon types, then army rangers. the toughest group in the air farce are the girl scout of america! lmao.
i hope this clears up any misconceptions.
hehehehe
steve
 
missed this the first post

ShiningIce said:
Is hand to hand combat in the Marines superior to all other armed forces fighting?? [/QUOTE


yes it is, but again that means not including the snake eater types.
the marines are the only service that still includes bayonette training. in the army they tell you "if they are close enough to use a bayonette on, you fucked up and deserve to die". the last guy from the air force that saw a bayonette in person fainted. in the navy they think it's a big knife to peel potatoes with. hehehe
steve
 
Army Vs. Marines and so forth...

Areenactor got it just about right. Barring the "I can kill 20 men before my breakfast of rabbit turds and tree bark" types, the Marines are the toughest service branch. I have a lot of respect for them as fighters. However...not too many great thinkers are ever going to come out of the Marines. The beer crushing quote is a great on, I might add...intellectual stimulation because it involves printed matter...lmao...
We Army types are generally regarded as second toughest, though this is usually in reference to the "real" soldiers - Infantry, Artillary, Armour, and especially Airbourne and Air Assault. Us postal workers are not usually so tough. We are, however, leaps and bounds ahead of...
The Navy consists of people can go through an entire term of service and never touch - or see - a real gun (barring the 16 inch battleship type guns). However, Navy tends to have the smartest - if likewise most arrogant - personnel. Also, Navy people have to make it through at least a decent basic training, as opposed to...
The Air Force is universally the pussiest of the service branches. They are usually nice guys, which is all well and good unless we actually are in a war. They used to be able to claim they were the "intellectual" branch, but then somebody realized that it simply wasn't true. They are, however, people I'm glad to have on my side...despite their lack of individual toughness, they DO fly some pretty kick-ass planes.
The special types are much tougher than any of us normal branches...to be a Navy SEAL you will actually get SHOT in training (while wearing body armour, but still). BUD/S training is by far the toughest in the world...you don't mess with a SEAL. AFter them is the Green Berets, then Marine Recon...the Air Force has Air Rescue or something like that, which goes in for downed pilots...yeah, I've never really heard of them either.
And all together, the US military is several dozen lightyears ahead of any other single country...we may trash talk each other, but when it comes right down to it, you don't want to mess with any of them...just ask Al Quaida and Saddamm.
 
How come no-one mentioned the Delta Force? LOL Speaking as an englisman who works with the British Army every day, I have to say I am bloody terrified of the US Air Force. Their best feature seems to be blowing up Brits and Canadians in marked aircraft while thinking they were Iraqis.

Of course in the British forces, the set up is slightly different. The Royal Marines are roughly on a par with the Green Berets and the Selta Force is roughly the same as the S.A.S. (Whom one american friend of mine was kind enough to say of, "They eat their own dead!") The Navy Seal are as tough as our S.B.S. and the Parachute Regiment in the army, is of the same level of training as the Marine Corps.Of course there is the problem that the US armed forces have 5 times as many men as the UK ones and a budget 250 times larger.😡


Semper fi............(Also the motto of the Devon and Dorset Regiment of the British Army.)
 
Well I have an appointment tomarrow to see my local recruiter and if all goes well after 13 weeks of hell Ill be one of the meanest, deadliest, most efficient killing machines walking this Earth 😎
 
What about the Chicken Stranglers? I've heard that they're generally acknowledged by other forces as among the toughest out there.
 
the chicken stranglers, biggles?

you'll have to forgive me, but i haven't heard of that term.
jim the s.b.s.? again i've been out of it too long i guess...?
your s.a.s. guys are awsome. i had a joint training mission with one of their boat crews in the north sea a long time ago. god they were good.
delta is a group on their own, sort of. flyer rescue is done by what ever forces are closest. usually the marines.
ice, think long and hard. this is a big decision. this will change you... wait, what am i saying! go for it, don't wait, go today!!!
lmao
good luck, and welcome to the club! HOORAAHH
steve
 
Flatfoot, what type of hazing went on in Boot Camp?? Do Drill Instructors actually physically assault you??
 
Re: the chicken stranglers, biggles?

areenactor said:
you'll have to forgive me, but i haven't heard of that term.
jim the s.b.s.? again i've been out of it too long i guess...?
steve

The S.B.S. is the Special Boat Service, as opposed to the S.A.S. which is the Special Air Service. The S.B.S. is the Royal Navy special forces unit, which probably makes it the equivalent of the Navy Seals. I'm pretty sure the S.A.S. are the same thing as the Delta Force. (They're in the British Army by the way, not the Royal Air Force! LOL)
 
Just to put my little two cents in....

MARINES ARE NUMBER ONE!!!!!

I find Marines to be 20 times sexier than Army men.... Heehee

(My assistant principal is an ex Marine... and I just hope he doesn't turn around fast one day because I am forever looking as his ass... Yummy... YES SIR!)

Course this count does not include Rangers ...... They top the charts!


Sigh! Whoopee to all men in uniforms..... (except maybe orange prison garb.... and sorry referees that never call my basketball games right! DAMN IT!)

One of my weaknesses... Oooo baby....
Live, Laugh and TICKLE
Sunriseticklee
:Kiss2:
 
There is no "hazing" permitted. In fact, you'll probably get a class from your Senior Drill Instructor on what he'll do to you if he catches anyone hazing any other recruits. As far as the Drill Instructors abusing you, they are not allowed to strike you. They may just give you a "correctional" shove in the right direction, with a loud and firm voice, and expect to do a lot of pushing, running, and side-straddle-hops(what jumping-jacks are called by Marines.). Don't be too afraid of the quarterdeck, or the pit. If you screw up, such as scratching your face when you're supposed to be at the Position of Attention, and get caught, expect to be sent to the quarterdeck, where you'll be doing a lot of Calisthenics. If EVERYONE screws up (or one person screws up for everybody!), expect to be sent outside to the sand pit with the whole platoon, where you'll be doing the same thing. There are times when you'll be hatin' life, wondering what the hell you got yourself into, but it's all good for ya. Remember, it's only 12 weeks! Also, I advise you to go to church every Sunday, because it's probably the only place where you can go and not expect to be screwed with, and people tend to find that God helps them get through it when they're miserable, and missing their family and friends, etc.
 
Flatfoot, My Marine friend mentioned something about a type of excerise that u have to do really fast and if you dont, They make you constantly drink water with no bathroom breaks and if you dont go fast you end up pissing your pants. Whats that called exactly?
 
SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!

BigJim said:
Does that include police uniforms Sunny? :devil:


YES!!!!!

Oh my GOODNESS! DO you realize that this is my biggest TICKLE FANTASY! The top of the line!?

DO you know how crazy I would go if a policeman kicked in my door... tied me/ handcuffed me some way.... OOOO to my desk (has to be at school!) and tickled me......... (plus other things.... heehee 😛 ) right in my classroom.

Oh my goodness! I am hot right now just thinking about it! *moaning*
*Shivering* *melting* As Double T would say... I'm so hot my DNA is changing! Ooooooo MMMM! 🙂

THAT is my number one fantasy! #1. No other comes close.

Damn... DAMN! TICKLE
Sunriseticklee
:Kiss2:

Oh my!!!!!!!!!! :wow:
 
Re: SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!

Sunriseticklee said:



YES!!!!!

Oh my GOODNESS! DO you realize that this is my biggest TICKLE FANTASY! The top of the line!?

DO you know how crazy I would go if a policeman kicked in my door... tied me/ handcuffed me some way.... OOOO to my desk (has to be at school!) and tickled me......... (plus other things.... heehee 😛 ) right in my classroom.

Oh my goodness! I am hot right now just thinking about it! *moaning*
*Shivering* *melting* As Double T would say... I'm so hot my DNA is changing! Ooooooo MMMM! 🙂

THAT is my number one fantasy! #1. No other comes close.

Damn... DAMN! TICKLE
Sunriseticklee
:Kiss2:

Oh my!!!!!!!!!! :wow:

God does love me after all! 😀😀😀
 
I have no doubt that he loves me... But it'd be easier to believe it if some sexy man in uniform came to my door.... (Not the Orkin man either! LOL)


OOOOOO OOOO OOO OO OOOOOOOOOOO
sigh

Sunriseticklee
:Kiss2:
 
ShiningIce said:
Flatfoot, My Marine friend mentioned something about a type of excerise that u have to do really fast and if you dont, They make you constantly drink water with no bathroom breaks and if you dont go fast you end up pissing your pants. Whats that called exactly?

Umm... I don't think he's referring to an actual exercise, but when you're getting smoked on the quarterdeck, if you look like you're going to pass out, they'll make you stop and pound water. Hydration is something that will be forced down your throat constantly (literally, and figuratively!). In boot camp, it kinda sucks, because they've got you drinking anywhere from 10-20 canteens a day (a canteen is equivalent to a quart of water!), and piss breaks aren't something they can interrupt their training schedule for. Aside from designated times they give for everyone to go (about 1-2 minutes for an 80-100 man platoon to all go to the bathroom, with about 4 urinal basins.), they can't always let individuals take piss breaks. Sometimes they do, other times they don't.

The flip side of the coin is what will happen if you become a heat casualty. If you pass out from heat exhaustion, the naval corpsman is going to give you what we call the "silver-bullet". Basically, they're gonna shove a big thermometer up your ass to check your body temperature (Not pleasant at all. I've seen it done to someone!), and probably cover you in ice. Aside from the humiliation and ass pain, you become more susceptible to heat exhaustion each time you suffer from it. My advice is to stay as hydrated as you think you need to be. They will have scheduled times throughout the day where they'll make you pound two canteens, and nobody will go anywhere until everyone's finished drinking. I didn't like drinking more than 10 a day, sometimes not even 5, but each person is different. You won't be getting much else to drink besides water, anyway, but drinking water until the bladder pressure forces you to piss yourself is definitely not pleasant. If you live in California, then you'll be going to boot camp in San Diego, where it's hot and dry. Stay hydrated!
 
ShiningIce said:
What exactly is Force Recon???

I couldn't tell you much about Recon, except that I fix their equipment (I swear, those guys cannot turn a volume switch without snapping it!), because I'm a tech. However, here is some information I acquired about Force Recon as it appears from www.forcerecon.org :

Mission and Training
The Force Reconnaissance mission is to plan, coordinate and conduct amphibious reconnaissance, deep ground reconnaissance & surveillance, battle space shaping, and limited scale raids in support of the MEF (Marine Expeditionary Force), MAGTFs (Marine Air Ground Task Force), or a JTF (Joint Task Force). The mission essential tasks are:
Conduct amphibious reconnaissance and deep ground R&S (Reconnaissance and Surveillance)

Conduct specialized terrain reconnaissance

Assist in specialized engineering, NBC (Nuclear, Biological and Chemical), Radio and Mobile Reconnaissance missions

Implant and/or recover sensors and beacons

Conduct ITG (Initial Terminal Guidance) for helicopters, landing crafts, and parachutists

Engage selected targets with Naval, Air and Ground guided support (Laser Guided Missiles, Artillery, Naval Gunfire, etc...)

Conduct post-strike reconnaissance (Battle Damage Assessments)

Conduct limited scale raids (destroy critical enemy targets, gas and oil platforms (GOPLATs), Military Interdiction Operations (MIOs), capture selected enemy personnel, and recover sensitive items / personnel)

Conduct other operations as directed

Force Recon training falls into two categories: Deep Reconnaissance and Direct Action (DA) missions. Each platoon goes through a two year work-up cycle to include: 6 months Individual Training Phase, 6 months Unit Training Phase (Deep Reconnaissance), 6 months MEU (SOC - Special Operations Capable) (Direct Action) Training Phase, and the 6 month MEU (SOC) Deployment. Upon return the platoon has a Post Deployment Phase where they prepare for the next work-up cycle. Post deployment can last three to six months.
The Individual Training Phase is where the Marines go to their specialized reconnaissance schools. Prior to deployment, each Marine in the platoon will go to the Basic Reconnaissance Course, Airborne School, the Marine Combatant Diver School, and SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape) School. Upon completion of their first float Marines can be selected to go to the advanced reconnaissance schools to include but not limited to: Ranger, Pathfinder, EMT, Military Freefall, Jumpmaster, Applied Explosives, and the Mountain Leaders Course (Winter and Summer).
The typical Unit Training Phase consists of the following training packages: Long Range Communications, Advanced Parachute/HAHO, Amphibious Recon, Combat Dive, Weapons and Tactics, Combat Trauma, Desert Patrolling, Mountain Patrolling, and Long Range Patrols.
The MEU (SOC) Training Phase consists of the Explosive Breaching Course, Close Quarter Battle Course, GOPLAT training, VBSS (Shipboard Visit Board Search and Seizures). During the TrUE (Training in an Urban Environment) training packages, the platoons can train in a variety of missions to support the MEU (SOC). The MEU (SOC) Missions include:
Amphibious Raids

Non-Combatant Evacuation Operations (NEO)

Reinforcement Operations

Security Operations

Humanitarian Operations

Seize Airfields and Ports

Conduct Counter Intel Operations

Signal Intelligence / Electronic Warfare

Direct Action Raids Maritime Interdiction Operations

Gas and Oil Platforms

Recovery Operations



Clandestine Recon and Surveillance
Specialized Demo
TRAP (Tactical Recovery of Aircraft and Personnel)

Did you sign up to be Force Recon, or is that what your friend does?
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH NO not me I'm staying FAAAAAAAAAAAAR away from Force Recon. I just wanna be a Rifleman or a Machine gunner in the regular infantry. The recruiter was saying something about Force Recon so...........HEY did u just say an entire platoon has to use 4 urnial basins???!!! wonderful 🙁 I wonder if ud be good enough to give me your expierince in the "Crucible" Flatfoot, its got me scared shitless.
 
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