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attractiveness...how important?

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this thread is getting started by me due to a topic that was going on the Tickling Discussion forum. this is about attractiveness. there seems to be this line of thought between men and women about how we handle someone's attractiveness (or lack of..).

i notice that men are labed as "superficial, shallow" beings and that we should look at a woman's "inside" rather than her outside. now true, a woman's personality is probably the most important thing because i would much rather hang around someone who has a great personality than someone who is evil or dull. but why do women (not all women of course...) ask men to essentially go out with "non supermodels" instead of "supermodels"? wouldnt that a stereotype from women who think "non supermodels" would have better personalities than "supermodels"? couldnt a "supermodel" have an outstanding personality as well?

here is the bottom line. i dont give a damn how great your personality is, in order to make a romantic relationship happen, you have to be ATTRACTED to that person physically. they do not have to be "supermodel" types, but they have to have some kind of physical attraction. let's be real. a man (or a woman) will not have the "urge" if the person is not in the least somewhat attractive. am i wrong? no. it goes for both men and women.

now, would i choose a supermodel type, who's personality is shallow and vain, or an "average" woman who's personality shines? i am going to take the average woman, but ONLY if the average woman's looks are at the bare minimum of what i consider attractive.

anyone agree or disagree?
 
I more or less agree. Though I'd point out that what I find attractive isn't necessarily what you'd find attractive, and vice versa, and so it goes with anyone else.
 
Right. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder, Rod Serling was right. I have men friends drawn to bigger gals, others drawn to the skinny, for example. Here's the real truth that no one wants to alert you to: You can ALWAYS change physical appearance. Literally within minutes sometimes, to wit: change of hair color, a little make-up, more figure-flattering clothes (yes it IS a science!) botox shots even! Changing a self-absorbed bitch (as another example) into a considerate sweetheart is gonna take a hell of a lot more work.
XOXO
 
steph said:
Right. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder, Rod Serling was right. I have men friends drawn to bigger gals, others drawn to the skinny, for example. Here's the real truth that no one wants to alert you to: You can ALWAYS change physical appearance. Literally within minutes sometimes, to wit: change of hair color, a little make-up, more figure-flattering clothes (yes it IS a science!) botox shots even! Changing a self-absorbed bitch (as another example) into a considerate sweetheart is gonna take a hell of a lot more work.
XOXO

well said Goddess, I could'nt agree more!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....bottom line!
 
As has been said in this thread, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. For myself, my significant other, or wife, certainly wouldnt need to have stepped out of a fashion, or beauty, magazine, to win my heart. The most important thing to me is that she would have a good heart, and great personality. However, that being said, I feel there would have to be some type of physical attraction between us, to make the relationship work. A quote "average" girl, with a great personality, would be much more desirable to me, that a self absorbed, shallow, conceited girl who is considered "beautiful"., whatever that word means. Beauty is different things to different people, and, in my life, I have been attracted to many different types of women, from petite, to taller, and even a bit full figured, depending on circumstance. For me, the Mrs is going to have to have the whole package. Most importantly, character, a good loving heart, good values, and, yes, of less importance, but still a consideration, my physical attraction toward her.

Mitch
 
Id never go out with a woman that didnt have the initial 3 most important things to me. she must be very attractive, very fit and very ticklish. if even one of these are missing then im not interested. not even if shes the sweetest, kindest, most caring, lovable and friendly person on earth. :idontwann
 
i don't mean to sound shallow here, but i am definitely attracted to a certain type of man..one who stays in shape, has a nice build, masculine..sorry that's how i am..

tough, yet gentle.
rough, yet tender.

different strokes folks...
 
Very simple as to my tastes folks....if they can make me laugh, then I'm theirs for the taking. Looks are the least important aspect on my list and I can truely say that with a straight face. A sense of humor and a warm personality to me are the two most beautiful things one can find in another human being.
 
A comedian once said “ a woman know within 15 seconds if she’s going to sleep with you are not” Lust is the common factor of any relationship; we check each other out from head to toe before every saying a world. We will either settle or completely reject someone because of how they look.

The question also so be which gender is more open about rejecting someone because of how they look.

I would say male does.

Ladies will tell their best friend instead of the person they’re dumping.
 
If we are going only on physical looks,i can with all honesty say every woman i have dated,or had a closer realtionship with would be considered out of my league.I'm not bragging,thats just been my experience.Perhaps i have just been lucky in that regard.But for myself im more intrested in the person inside then some stunning beauty.Remember that old song A Bad Case Of Luvin You?A pretty face dont mean no pretty heart.
 
Attractiveness or no? I say no, don't get me wrong he has to have something like a 'spark' about him that makes me attracted to him, mostly personality, compassion and that he can make me laugh, but one of the tops for me is that I can be myself and he loves me for who I am not who I would wanna be (i.e. slimmer etc).

I can be attracted just by the way a guy walks, talks has confidence and treats others.

So to me looks isn't top of my agenda, a personality lasts far more than looks, its the person inside I fall in love with not the exterior.

For those people that go on looks alone, what happens to how you feel for someone if they get disfigured and you find them not so attractive then, do you dump them and move on to the next one?
 
Everyone wants a certain type, I think it is said that 95% of the population [Joe or Jane average] wants to date the other 5% [The beautiful]. Most of us think - "Why can't I have mr/ms Perfect?..." We all think we deserve it. It is natural to want a perfect partner. Women's Romance novels are not about some jobless wanna-be sweeping the woman off her feet with his welfare check.

For the looks thing - I find it weird that most beautiful women seem to go for the Losers. I have seen some women who are a "10" dating guys who are a "0" in looks, personality, finances... Often. So I doubt women pay much attention to looks. Not when it comes to dating.

But for the guys who date women out of their league in looks, how do they deal with the fact that his girlfriend will get asked out several times today? And probably a few times by a guy who has more money and better looks?

For the guys - here is a little secret - The less pretty women will be much more willing to satisfy your unconventional "needs" [fetishes] in the sack. 😉
 
lespieds said:
Everyone wants a certain type, I think it is said that 95% of the population [Joe or Jane average] wants to date the other 5% [The beautiful]. Most of us think - "Why can't I have mr/ms Perfect?..." We all think we deserve it. It is natural to want a perfect partner. Women's Romance novels are not about some jobless wanna-be sweeping the woman off her feet with his welfare check.

For the looks thing - I find it weird that most beautiful women seem to go for the Losers. I have seen some women who are a "10" dating guys who are a "0" in looks, personality, finances... Often. So I doubt women pay much attention to looks. Not when it comes to dating.

But for the guys who date women out of their league in looks, how do they deal with the fact that his girlfriend will get asked out several times today? And probably a few times by a guy who has more money and better looks?

For the guys - here is a little secret - The less pretty women will be much more willing to satisfy your unconventional "needs" [fetishes] in the sack. 😉

The less pretty women will....I dont think you can generalize something like that.Kinkiness has nothing to do with looks IMO.....
 
ChosenofMystra said:
Very simple as to my tastes folks....if they can make me laugh, then I'm theirs for the taking. Looks are the least important aspect on my list and I can truely say that with a straight face. A sense of humor and a warm personality to me are the two most beautiful things one can find in another human being.

Exactly to a word how I feel! In defense of men though, I think their brains are more visually wired than women's. That's why most pornography is made more for men and most strip clubs have female dancers 🙂
Not very fair for us who appreciate a fine male form is it?
 
bugman said:
If we are going only on physical looks,i can with all honesty say every woman i have dated,or had a closer realtionship with would be considered out of my league.I'm not bragging,thats just been my experience.Perhaps i have just been lucky in that regard.But for myself im more intrested in the person inside then some stunning beauty.Remember that old song A Bad Case Of Luvin You?A pretty face dont mean no pretty heart.


i also agree with my good friend buggy here..of course what's inside is what in the end counts the most..and you buggy are as beautiful inside as you are out..
 
isabeau said:
i don't mean to sound shallow here, but i am definitely attracted to a certain type of man..one who stays in shape, has a nice build, masculine..sorry that's how i am..

tough, yet gentle.
rough, yet tender.

different strokes folks...

You just described me perfectly! 😎
 
isabeau said:
i also agree with my good friend buggy here..of course what's inside is what in the end counts the most..and you buggy are as beautiful inside as you are out..

Oh geesh, :blush: Thanks love. :smilelove
 
It is always going to come down to a male/female thing. Now I think we all know there are exceptions to every rule and any generalization that says "all me are this way" or "all women are that way" is going to be wrong because people are complex and some are different, so keep in mind this is my opinion and it is mostly based on my own experience, and biological/medical science.

Sexually speaking, men are visual. They can claim to be sensitive and caring and only worry about a woman's inner most truth until the end of time, but unless they are wired different from the typical male, one of there most powerful and primary attractors is a visual one what they look like.
Females on the other hand tend to be more psychological, they want "alpha males". This is all basic scientific sense. We try to live according to complex moral codes and life mating without cheating on our partners, this is a fine (perhaps even admirable) thing to do, however we have evolved morally just as we have physically and our bodies are still "programmed" for lack of a better word on some old outdated software.

I think this whole conversation has to do with another little issue that wasn't addressed, if you are looking for a long term committed relationship, if you are attempting to pair bond, then the likely hood of personality being a key factor goes up.

It is different for men and women largely because it comes down to the fact that the woman's biological commitment to the sex act is greater. Pre contraception and abortion she ran the much higher risk of having to carry a baby to term and deal with it when she did. From a biological standpoint the man is less invested. So ultimately from understand the simple biological imperative of passing on your own gene sequence it makes sense the way both genders behave. Men use visual cues to figure out if the woman is fertile, and then may use other cues to decide if this it the one woman he wants to pair bond with or just one of many places he wants to spread his genetic material. For the female of the species they use a variety of visual, but also psychological clues to figure out if the man is able and willing to take care of her and her baby.

Now I am obviously not saying modern people go around thinking this way, I am saying it is their instinct, it can be over ridden by choice, but this is a VERY basic concept of how evolution leads to the way modern man and woman behave sexually.

I am not saying this kind of attitude is right or wrong, just the way I understand it to be from a biological evolutionary standpoint.
 
I agree and disagree.

When first getting to know someone for romantic reasons, I feel physical attractiveness is important. It's not at the top of the list of important things, but it's definitely on the list.

That being said, I have made friends with people over the years that I wasn't attracted to upon first glance. And after getting to know them, their personality transformed them into someone that I found attractive.
 
isabeau said:
i don't mean to sound shallow here, but i am definitely attracted to a certain type of man..one who stays in shape, has a nice build, masculine..sorry that's how i am..

tough, yet gentle.
rough, yet tender.

different strokes folks...
The others will get jealous when they hear you talking about me like that!
 
kered said:
The others will get jealous when they hear you talking about me like that!

Hey hold on here,i thought she was talking about ME. :shock:
 
Pardon me whilst I interrupt this scuffle over Isabeau... :jester:

With me, a great personality can make you very attractive indeed. I've always felt this way. I remember being 35, and very attracted to a woman in my line of work who was 60 and in not so great shape or health...all because she made me both think and laugh. If she wasn't married, I'd have said, yep...let's make this thing happen.

Nothing turns me off more than someone with a case of the stuck-ups.
 
I'll be completely honest. Attractiveness is pretty important to me. Obviously, if I'm not attracted to someone, it's not going to work. Enough said. I made the mistake of marrying someone I wasn't completely attracted to. My "nice" side settled for something less than what I wanted and it didn't work out.

I've made this mistake numerous times in my past. Dating people I was only half attracted to. Over time, I would get over those funny things that attracted to me and realize I wasn't as attracted to them physically anymore because it wasn't balancing out.

Thankfully, I am 100% attracted to my boyfriend and wouldn't change a thing about him. He's very sexy and very "my type". I feel like I've finally gotten something I deserve.
 
Knox The Hatter said:
Pardon me whilst I interrupt this scuffle over Isabeau... :jester:

With me, a great personality can make you very attractive indeed. I've always felt this way. I remember being 35, and very attracted to a woman in my line of work who was 60 and in not so great shape or health...all because she made me both think and laugh. If she wasn't married, I'd have said, yep...let's make this thing happen.

Nothing turns me off more than someone with a case of the stuck-ups.

Knox, i work with a guy who is 48,and his wife is 64.They have been married over twenty years.I had a cousin who was married to a guy almost thirty years her senior,and they were happy till the day he died.I'm not saying its that common,but it does happen......I have dated women older then myself and found them to be great partners,sort of wish i could find one now....
 
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