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Beautiful Ebony Soles tickled (OT racial argument, split)

alf said:
Yes, and after you say we're unopen minded etc etc. I suppose we're not welcome to Harlem eh ?
Where do you see fear by the way ???

Especially people like you are welcome to come to Harlem. You may learn something, If I ever have the opportunuty to go to Europe I'd go. Perhaps I'd learn something about the people there. Get to know people first, not the stereotypes you see portrayed on TV. People sometimes fear what they are not familiar with.
 
jaguar said:
Especially people like you are welcome to come to Harlem. You may learn something, If I ever have the opportunuty to go to Europe I'd go. Perhaps I'd learn something about the people there. Get to know people first, not the stereotypes you see portrayed on TV. People sometimes fear what they are not familiar with.



Well, then we are even in my eyes. And whenever I may have insulted you indirectly, my apologies. Still won't my opinion change and am I probably fairer than most of the people who are here, but have I forgot about discretion and other people's feelings.

If what you say above is true however, I don't have a problem with you. I haven never been to Harlem (for I have never been to the US) but I HAVE been to Paris and nearly 35% to 40% was of African origin from the people I saw there. You are right that they don't necessarely mess up the neighbourhood (that's also not what I believed before), for I didn't feel for a minute unsafe. Well except for a two-some selling junk and insulting everyone who refuses to buy. But two out of thousands of Africans is a minority.
 
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African cartoon feet

We all know that cartoon characters consist mainly of white and/or Asian casts (you must realize Africans take more to draw, lots of colouring work and thus harder to make it look pretty). There exist however an artist who is specialized at the feet of the most beautifull African women. The only thing the may be a turn off for some African viewers is the fact he often mentions white men in it (also a turn off for me, because they don't really suit those women generally, in exceptions it's of course possible). The concept is however only their feet, and licking them and only on a two-some pics (or a little more) does it tickle the lickee and does she laugh it out the Latin way (ji ji ji ji ji!)

Just become a member and take a look it these masterpieces.
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The second pic I featured to show samples is a bit what I meant for it being a turn off. The first and the last are my personal favorites. You should also imagine black ladies dominating white people for a change, only doesn't the dominating-thing have anything negative though (few wouldn't want to be dominated like that LoL), it is rather rewarding at the same time. A well, stupid comment anyway. LoL. I'm not always serious in the future I'll label non-serious quotes of me with this emoticon => :laughing:

Regards.
 

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Perhaps your definition of racism differs from Ours

witproduct said:
and since asians, hispanics, africans look more like each other, they really tend to be called to their race easier.
This statement is clearly racist/insensitive/stupid to me.
 
That was a really crappy way to word it. But I think he was talking primarily about things like hair color.
 
No Sir he was not talking about hair

Darkblade160 said:
That was a really crappy way to word it. But I think he was talking primarily about things like hair color.
Read every ignorant comment he has made & see for yourself
 
jaguar said:
This statement is clearly racist/insensitive/stupid to me.

Yes. I agree. I've seen some of his post over the months and he really gives me the impression of a George Will colonial attitude about race, gender.
 
This Is How

witproduct said:
It's also mainly because 90% of the tickling clips sended here are of Western women getting tickled. You shouldn't take this too hard, I think the label 'ebony' is respective enough to use amongst these boards (well I use it since A.N.A. production seem to find it suitable, and they're Afro-American themselves, I guess). Better than 'chocolate' that is. Of the poster knows her name, he can post it, for I have no total clue. I even have no clue of the name of 90% of the models getting tickled on the clips I saw. You know? White women also get labels as 'blonde, redhair, brunette', and since asians, hispanics, africans look more like each other, they really tend to be called to their race easier.
 
Yes I'm a racist, in your terms. Long time no chat, our jaguar! Did you know that jaguars are related to the BLACK panther? :weird: 😀
I'd say get over with it. You're like those Afros who mentally still live in 1600 when slavery was normal (gosh my Dutch ancestors were rich back then). You're the racist, because you don't get white humour and sarcasm, my mate. Just kidding! But, I'm neither playing Mr. Nice Guy anymore with you.

The fact remains, dear jaguar. You don't even come to my heels when it comes to empathy or extraversy. I have proven well enough that I'm not a racist, at all and that the term racism has become a severally abused insult and nothing more since 1970-'80 (that's the case in Europa, though I have to admit the circumstances are partially better now).

One other thing I'd like to conclude this with: is it so ignorant to have spoken African individuals and one Asian (a Cantonese from Hong Kong) who claim they themselves generally have more simularities with each other than white people do? Big deal! The world has not changed even if it would be a general fact to be taken for truth. You sir, have fallen in my regard from this day.
Also, if you think I'm affraid of you. I have the guts to tell this in front of most Africans. It doesn't take any guts actually. I only am affraid of criminals and of 1 out of 1000s of a particular group threatens me, only then I have fear which isn't based on racism but on the fact I'm getting threated in a racist anti-white fashion.

If you are an easy-going African person and you only like discussion and you only forcely disagree with me, you won't see me routing or galloping in my discussion from you. I find myself a rare pearl of Europeans who dares to say what he thinks. Most whites from Western Europe spread lies and that's (and that I admit) our cultural weakness. I have met many fellow Belgians who were friendly toward non-white individuals to only curse them as they were demons while among other whites. Note that that happens in other cultures as well, and even toward us whites! The fact remains many Europeans are self-destructive in their reasoning and the only thing I get accused of racism from is my assertive attitude. Yes, I remember it brightly very still, a (white) guy saying literally: "hahaha, a white making a fool out of himself in front of Africans, this pleasures me. Stupid racist whites! We should all perish!" These people really exist, and I am 100% sure such blacks also exist, as do any other heritage.

Yes. I agree. I've seen some of his post over the months and he really gives me the impression of a George Will colonial attitude about race, gender.

My whole family have lived their whole lifes in Europa and not a single nanometer outside of it. In fact, if there's one kind of people I have to puke of it are old colonial Belgians who were part of the Congo Free State and later Belgian Congo. I don't get what you mean and I think you're Mr. Forced Sympathy over here. I even am called a masculine feminist in real life, did you know? Understand though, I'm no wimp. No way would I blindly agree with everything they tell about people of other races and of the opposite sex. Examples enough of horrible people everywhere in the world.

GOSH I HATE MEDIEVAL WITCH HUNTERS! 😀


I'd like to know how did this thread become about race issues?

Well, as far as I remember, as this thread is very old (about one year or more), did it start with a comment of mine. I stated I liked the content posted. I saw someone replying they should lay off the usage of the therm "ebony" to label black people. I disagreed with him as I for one prefer white females, though in a romantic/cultural perspective, but next to that the clips were beautiful and nice to watch. I also claimed the label "ebony" is a noble one and I found it dumb and outmost silly that one African indivual may find it insulting (I forgot to mention it's only a good label when it comes to pornography, it's because of the looks they use the term like they compare us with ebony as ivory. They use the same principe as they'd label redhairs in this separate case, actually). This last detail has caused a small disagreement which evolved into an argument after I stated in a non-subtle way non-whites generally look the same because of the fact they all are brown-eyed and all have black hair in contrary with Europeans with blondes, redhairs, brown-haireds. I did mention I as individual am able to distinguist every individual easily after getting to know him/her though. Of course that itty bitty and irrelevant detail has labeled me a racist especially after I have shown the guts I have voted Vlaams Belang in Belgium which is a far-right separist party in Belgium (and I don't even support them 100% nor am a member of theirs back then in 2004 they were the best alternative in my vision, their small victory even has changed the other parties so it wasn't for nothing, though I didn't want to remain hypocrite so I told people I was a voter of that party most, among many actual racist, don't dare admit). So far my story.
 
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I would'nt want to come close to you at all

witproduct said:
Yes I'm a racist, in your terms. Long time no chat, our jaguar! Did you know that jaguars are related to the BLACK panther? :weird: 😀
I'd say get over with it. You're like those Afros who mentally still live in 1600 when slavery was normal (gosh my Dutch ancestors were rich back then). You're the racist, because you don't get white humour and sarcasm, my mate. Just kidding! But, I'm neither playing Mr. Nice Guy anymore with you.

The fact remains, dear jaguar. You don't even come to my heels when it comes to empathy or extraversy. I have proven well enough that I'm not a racist, at all and that the term racism has become a severally abused insult and nothing more since 1970-'80 (that's the case in Europa, though I have to admit the circumstances are partially better now).

One other thing I'd like to conclude this with: is it so ignorant to have spoken African individuals and one Asian (a Cantonese from Hong Kong) who claim they themselves generally have more simularities with each other than white people do? Big deal! The world has not changed even if it would be a general fact to be taken for truth. You sir, have fallen in my regard from this day.
Also, if you think I'm affraid of you. I have the guts to tell this in front of most Africans. It doesn't take any guts actually. I only am affraid of criminals and of 1 out of 1000s of a particular group threatens me, only then I have fear which isn't based on racism but on the fact I'm getting threated in a racist anti-white fashion.

If you are an easy-going African person and you only like discussion and you only forcely disagree with me, you won't see me routing or galloping in my discussion from you. I find myself a rare pearl of Europeans who dares to say what he thinks. Most whites from Western Europe spread lies and that's (and that I admit) our cultural weakness. I have met many fellow Belgians who were friendly toward non-white individuals to only curse them as they were demons while among other whites. Note that that happens in other cultures as well, and even toward us whites! The fact remains many Europeans are self-destructive in their reasoning and the only thing I get accused of racism from is my assertive attitude. Yes, I remember it brightly very still, a (white) guy saying literally: "hahaha, a white making a fool out of himself in front of Africans, this pleasures me. Stupid racist whites! We should all perish!" These people really exist, and I am 100% sure such blacks also exist, as do any other heritage.



My whole family have lived their whole lifes in Europa and not a single nanometer outside of it. In fact, if there's one kind of people I have to puke of it are old colonial Belgians who were part of the Congo Free State and later Belgian Congo. I don't get what you mean and I think you're Mr. Forced Sympathy over here. I even am called a masculine feminist in real life, did you know? Understand though, I'm no wimp. No way would I blindly agree with everything they tell about people of other races and of the opposite sex. Examples enough of horrible people everywhere in the world.

GOSH I HATE MEDIEVAL WITCH HUNTERS! 😀




Well, as far as I remember, as this thread is very old (about one year or more), did it start with a comment of mine. I stated I liked the content posted. I saw someone replying they should lay off the usage of the therm "ebony" to label black people. I disagreed with him as I for one prefer white females, though in a romantic/cultural perspective, but next to that the clips were beautiful and nice to watch. I also claimed the label "ebony" is a noble one and I found it dumb and outmost silly that one African indivual may find it insulting (I forgot to mention it's only a good label when it comes to pornography, it's because of the looks they use the term like they compare us with ebony as ivory. They use the same principe as they'd label redhairs in this separate case, actually). This last detail has caused a small disagreement which evolved into an argument after I stated in a non-subtle way non-whites generally look the same because of the fact they all are brown-eyed and all have black hair in contrary with Europeans with blondes, redhairs, brown-haireds. I did mention I as individual am able to distinguist every individual easily after getting to know him/her though. Of course that itty bitty and irrelevant detail has labeled me a racist especially after I have shown the guts I have voted Vlaams Belang in Belgium which is a far-right separist party in Belgium (and I don't even support them 100% nor am a member of theirs back then in 2004 they were the best alternative in my vision, their small victory even has changed the other parties so it wasn't for nothing, though I didn't want to remain hypocrite so I told people I was a voter of that party most, among many actual racist, don't dare admit). So far my story.
You are entitled to your scary/racist point of view, I'm entitled to expose it. Racist love to hide behind HIStory, it makes them sound educated. & in their minds the shameful racist past somehow justifies the insensitivity/stupidity of the present. Judge for yourself people.
 
Wrong! You read what you want to believe of what is written and try to change stuff in their context to your advantage. You are a racist hunter who sees more preys then there actually are. I on the other hand have tried several times to make myself clear why I'm no racist, simplicity is what I get in return anyhow.

One year ago "my kind" was welcome in Harlem, now I am as like caught by some contagious disease. As myself, you also change views as time progresses. Where mine get less radical, yours get it the more. Yes, there are people who mentally still live in the slavery of their ancestors centuries ago. Yes, that slavery might be a nowadays' result why the US has a gap between poverty and richdom this broad it has become and it has still remained outragious to be the truth.

One kind of people I despise: people who only point with their fingers and keep on hanging to the past and refuse to think of the evolutions and how to put them in analogy with our present day. I'm not saying you are like them, but they do exist. In the Netherlands an organisation like "Eer & Herstel" is a typical example of it. They are also heavily insulted by some terms one refers Africans as, and they always go back to the times of their slavery while in discussion.
Many of them are, I admit, intelligent and well-educated people with right intentions while others are just plain jerks who like to pick on stuff when there's picking on them. I'm not saying you're one to their kind, but I certainly would appreciate your laying off throwing insults like "racist" there where there isn't any racism at all.



As I want to state what I keep on believing. I am against colonisation and robbing lands empty and provoking conflict over there. I know nowadays stuff still happen which are just as shocking as the Holocaust during WWII in lands like Uganda, still today. I realize Europeans were there to provoke that chaos, yet not Europeans I personally know off. I'm not ashamed for their deeds, I accuse their deeds which aren't mine instead.
Know that the shameful past isn't shameful at all, but the past. People nowadays wanting it to become liek the olde days nowadays, they are shameful. If you think I should be ashamed of the past of the deeds fellow Europeans who most probably aren't even related to my family as most Europeans who remained in the old continent actually were slaves to their Industrial Revolution who had no free time but to work for only their living and no luxury, you're trying a little to hard to proof someones "true nature".
 
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I read what is written. Period

witproduct said:
Wrong! You read what you want to believe of what is written and try to change stuff in their context to your advantage. You are a racist hunter who sees more preys then there actually are. I on the other hand have tried several times to make myself clear why I'm no racist, simplicity is what I get in return anyhow.

One year ago "my kind" was welcome in Harlem, now I am as like caught by some contagious disease. As myself, you also change views as time progresses. Where mine get less radical, yours get it the more.

My interpretation of it has been accurate. You yourself confirmed it. I welcome all people to Harlem USA to see the beauty of African American culture. Not to put down other cultures. A jaguar being related to a black panther is in your feeble mind, funny or even relavant to what this topic started out as. Since I'm accusing you of being a racist, you might as well make a joke of it. Harmless to some. Proves my point to others.
 
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Well, it actually is no joke, but a parody of irrelevancy because of being personally insulted by still getting called racist for stupid reasons. It almost is just as relevant as the relacy of a jaguar and a black panther. It's innocent nonsense actually, as no single human takes it for truth and that is also cleared up by me some extra by using these annoying emoticons right behind it.

EDIT: I realize, just as yourself, we won't get allong at all within a short period. Times have become those of paranoia from every corner. Yes, even I am victim to it, as most humans are (fact: I often think about stuff and may not sound as clear everywhere, it's not to sound intellectual or something). Friends we may never become, most probably, and the more I stand still and think about it, paranoia of people is even understandable as I am one heck of an excentric individual with ever-evolving opinions which have been extreme one day before but thought out and thought out again until they didn't fit within my personality.
 
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I have split this long-running argument about race from the Vid Clips Corner, and I stronly admonish all concerned to keep it civil. This thread will be promptly closed if it devolves into personal flaming or abuse, upon which it is already bordering.

The only reason I didn't delete the argument outright is that I believe it raises some important issues. We try strenuously not to censor legitimate debate, even on uncomfortable topics, but we do insist that members maintain a reasonable standard of civility.

Thanks in advance,
 
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Just an FYI:

I live in an international community, so I can tell you this for a fact: All Asians don't look alike; and neither do all Blacks. They will only appear that way if one's eyes are not trained to notice the differences.

And yes, Blacks and Asians can come with natural blonde and with blue eyes. Such traits of albinism aren't limited to the "whites"; just as you can have pale skinned (albino) Africans. Back in high school, I had a class mate from Eritrea, she had green eyes which looked very striking in contrast to her beautifully dark skin...

If you spent most of your life in Europe, I'm sure u can appreciate the differences in appearance between somebody from Poland, or Germany, or Ireland... And would hardly tell the difference between a person from Morocco, Nigeria or Somalia (and trust me, they are very, very different in their appearance)... and vice versa.

Before making such assertions, why not google a bit; if one spends the same amount of time they would huntin' for tickle pics, on searching for pictures of people from other races, one would see that there are major differences from one "black" person to another.

I've always believed that beauty is in all races... and have had the blessing of witnessing it first hand 🙂
 
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