Brutal honesty needed!

[psychespet]

There's a person who's been wanting to contribute to Tickle Freaks, and who I've allowed to a few times. He needs a LOT of work when it comes to tchnique and filming, and I'm asking a favor of you guys: I'm posting an entire one of his clips here for free, in hopes that some of you can put some feedback into different/better words than I have.
Please, spare no criticism when viewing. I will give the constructive criticism to him, but will take anything you say into consideration:
Sugar in stocks Full clip for free!



TickleFreaks!


EDIT: I'm aware that this is not a good video. I'm looking for specific reasons why you think it isnt.

 

[MikeMike]

That clip is 88 megs. How long is it?

 

[psychespet]

over 15 minutes long

 

[cloudgazer2k]

brutal honesty? well, i think i can do that. here goes:

first, i was a bit worried about the ticklee. she seemed extremely uncomfortable, as if it were a true non-consensual scene. though i am sure she agreed to being in the video, it looked to me as if she were ready for it to end at the beginning.

the way she was tied was also a worry to me. while her hands were fine, the ankle stocks were very unsafe. with the way she was fighting in her bonds, those stocks could have, at best, sprained or bruised her, at worst, broken something. if someone is going to use such a device during a tickle-video, it should be secured.

add in the fact that no one seemed to really care about the ticklee's state of mind, that the scene continued to play out even though she was getting more and more upset as the seconds ticked by, was a bit upsetting. to play out a "scripted" non-con scene is fine. however, the complete disregard for the girl's safety and peace of mind was rather unsettling.

to me, the people involved in the video did not follow the basic rules of sane, safe and consensual play.

 

[LB_Ticklingisfun]

I must agree cloudgazer.

 

[psychespet]

brutal honesty? well, i think i can do that. here goes:

first, i was a bit worried about the ticklee. she seemed extremely uncomfortable, as if it were a true non-consensual scene. though i am sure she agreed to being in the video, it looked to me as if she were ready for it to end at the beginning.

the way she was tied was also a worry to me. while her hands were fine, the ankle stocks were very unsafe. with the way she was fighting in her bonds, those stocks could have, at best, sprained or bruised her, at worst, broken something. if someone is going to use such a device during a tickle-video, it should be secured.

add in the fact that no one seemed to really care about the ticklee's state of mind, that the scene continued to play out even though she was getting more and more upset as the seconds ticked by, was a bit upsetting. to play out a "scripted" non-con scene is fine. however, the complete disregard for the girl's safety and peace of mind was rather unsettling.

to me, the people involved in the video did not follow the basic rules of sane, safe and consensual play.

For what it's worth, it was her scene; meaning she planned it out, so it was definately consensual. She and the director are a couple who are worked together on it.

However, I agree with you entirely.

I wanted someone else to have some input though. I sort of took this project over, and this person/team had worked with the people running it before, so my feedback was sort of being ignored.

The bondage looked unsafe, the ticklee like she wasn't having fun, etc. but she was part of the planning. I can only blame the execution.

Thanks for the response/validation.

I've got a few more from the same director, which are more fun, but the camera work wasn't good. I'll try and see if some of it can be saved, and I'll post more here.

 

[hank2001]

I think you guys are making more of it than it was. It was a girl who wasn't ticklish just saying "ow" and "no" because she has to do something and what else can she say?

 

[Relentless]

IMHO it is not an enjoyable video when the ticklers are doing more laughing than the ticklee.

 

[psychespet]

I think you guys are making more of it than it was. It was a girl who wasn't ticklish just saying "ow" and "no" because she has to do something and what else can she say?

she actually is very ticklish, it's just the situation and the ticklers I think were completely out of whack.
I dont think she was ever in any serious distress, and I dont think that most people watching would feel that way, but it's just not what people are looking for in a tickling video. Also; in contrast to the expectation of what you would find in a tickling video, it looks worse than it is.
I imagine if I put that up for sale, pretty much anyone that bought it would be disappointed.

 

[psychespet]

thanks for all the feedback too guys! I appreciate the input

 

[TickleSwitch24]

pros and cons

+ I thought the ticklers and ticklee were attractive

+ I thought the taunting was awesome


- The girl was ticklish, but not laughing. Being tortured is OK, but laughing
is good too

- I thought the camera work was, at times, "low". As in, couldn't see all the
action because the stocks were in the way

- The stocks. If you want nice, loose squirming, just spread-eagle her and
keep the bonds loose

Honestly, I wouldn't have bought this clip, but I also don't buy that many. Really what it's missing is some laughter, and maybe something to switch it up. The whole video was pretty much the same except for the tickling method. Variety of clothing styles is an added plus. (some people like nylons, some people like high heels, some people like corsets, etc.) So if it was a little spicier and a had a little more variety, I think it would have been a great video.

 

[cncreteman]

I agree

There was nothing brutal or non consentual here, she was just a bit nervous maybe but far from upset or anything and yes, the ticklers laughed more than her which is not a good thing, oh, and the stocks, ,, with a real ticklish girl in them, her legs/ankles would have been toast!

IMHO it is not an enjoyable video when the ticklers are doing more laughing than the ticklee.

 

[summer]

The ticklers laughed more than the ticklee.

I didn't realize Calstar was back in business.

Reminds me of some of their lamest efforts.

 

[EvilTickler82]

The only thing I have to criticize about this video is the stocks her feet were in..very ineffective, and even dangerous... the stocks should've been fixed to the bed, or, as mentioned, a spread-eagled position would've been much better.
But the rest of the clip is quite nice I think. She's rather ticklish, and of course she fights it..now that's what we all wanna see, isn't it? 😉
The fact that the ticklers laugh more than she does doesn't disturb me at all..it shows how much fun the girls have torturing her
Regards
Tom

 

[alaffamnt]

The ticklers did WAY too much talking.

 

[BorisandNatasha]

Worthless since the girl was not ticklish. If she was, she would have been hurt in the flimsy bondage apparatus.
Blunt you want? Not good. This time.
There is nothing more to say about this.


Boris

 

[psychespet]

The only thing I have to criticize about this video is the stocks her feet were in..very ineffective, and even dangerous... the stocks should've been fixed to the bed, or, as mentioned, a spread-eagled position would've been much better.
But the rest of the clip is quite nice I think. She's rather ticklish, and of course she fights it..now that's what we all wanna see, isn't it? 😉
The fact that the ticklers laugh more than she does doesn't disturb me at all..it shows how much fun the girls have torturing her
Regards
Tom

There was nothing brutal or non consentual here, she was just a bit nervous maybe but far from upset or anything and yes, the ticklers laughed more than her which is not a good thing, oh, and the stocks, ,, with a real ticklish girl in them, her legs/ankles would have been toast!

Honestly, I wouldn't have bought this clip, but I also don't buy that many. Really what it's missing is some laughter, and maybe something to switch it up. The whole video was pretty much the same except for the tickling method. Variety of clothing styles is an added plus. (some people like nylons, some people like high heels, some people like corsets, etc.) So if it was a little spicier and a had a little more variety, I think it would have been a great video.

- The stocks. If you want nice, loose squirming, just spread-eagle her and
keep the bonds loose

Yes, the stocks were a big part of the issue I had. i think that you can use portable stocks, but they have to be in the right place and set in a way that the girl wont be hurt, or holding back because she's trying not to be

 

[BorisandNatasha]

Oh and allow me to add....the ticklers were good but they did not have a receptive victim to tickle and again I must say that that makeshift stocks could have broken both of the ticklees legs or at the very least hurt her bad if she were ...really ticklish. It was all production flaw for the most part.


Boris

 

[psychespet]

Oh and allow me to add....the ticklers were good but they did not have a receptive victim to tickle and again I must say that that makeshift stocks could have broken both of the ticklees legs or at the very least hurt her bad if she were ...really ticklish. It was all production flaw for the most part.


Boris

I agree with you that the stocks were not used correctly, and that it was a production flaw. Those are stocks that both the hands and feet are supposed to go though, which would put the lee in a much more safe position if used correctly.

She is actually ticklish; i've tickled her myself just for fun. I think it was the situation that made her clam up, and i dont blame her.

 

[psychespet]

The ticklers laughed more than the ticklee.

I didn't realize Calstar was back in business.

Reminds me of some of their lamest efforts.

can you give me a better idea of what it is that you didnt like? I appreciate the time, but I'm looking for specific examples to help either improve his production or rationale for calling it quits with him.

 

[jj82277]

IMHO it is not an enjoyable video when the ticklers are doing more laughing than the ticklee.

and we aren't taking about priscilla james evil laugh while the lee is still in hysterics, we are talking about 5 minutes of ticking on not ticklish feet.

it is jsut a reminder that chemistry is something that has to be learned, and that everyone is not born an instinctive tickle samari. i think that the taunting was a nice attempt, but it fell flat because the reactions of the lee didn't match that intensity.

the black thing has to go. the little half feather that was just being waved around that didn't touch her half the time. i think it was more of a distraction than anything.

ticklephiles are inherently reaction junkies. laughter, taunting, etc. as long as it is genuine then anything that gives us more insight into the events that are going on and how they make the people involved feel stimulates the parts of our twisted minds that like the idea of tickling someone. and don't focus too much on one body part. i am as much a foot guy as anyone else, but my favorite place to tickle is the most ticklish spot of the lee.

when you look around this is actually a pretty tough market because you have guys here that are real players who have real players as lees on the net in competition. reality is everything.

 

[blktklr]

Brutally honest

Not that bad. I think a few changes would improve the video.

1. If you're gonna use stocks make sure that they're secure and safe. (It made MY ankles and shins hurt just watching).
2. Lose the feather. If you/re gonna use a feather, use one that's doesn't look worn out. It's very distracting and doesn't look like it tickles her at all.
3. Just a smidgen less talking by the 'lers.

Other than that, I feel that the makers of this clip are capable of doing excellant work in the future. Good luck!

 

[psychespet]

Not that bad. I think a few changes would improve the video.

1. If you're gonna use stocks make sure that they're secure and safe. (It made MY ankles and shins hurt just watching).
2. Lose the feather. If you/re gonna use a feather, use one that's doesn't look worn out. It's very distracting and doesn't look like it tickles her at all.
3. Just a smidgen less talking by the 'lers.

Other than that, I feel that the makers of this clip are capable of doing excellant work in the future. Good luck!

thanks for the feedback! I think they've got potential too, which is why I sought this feedback. Getting it form multiple people will help them understand that It's not just my opinion.
I agree with all your points too, btw.

 

[psychespet]

it is jsut a reminder that chemistry is something that has to be learned, and that everyone is not born an instinctive tickle samari. i think that the taunting was a nice attempt, but it fell flat because the reactions of the lee didn't match that intensity.
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ticklephiles are inherently reaction junkies. laughter, taunting, etc. as long as it is genuine then anything that gives us more insight into the events that are going on and how they make the people involved feel stimulates the parts of our twisted minds that like the idea of tickling someone. and don't focus too much on one body part. i am as much a foot guy as anyone else, but my favorite place to tickle is the most ticklish spot of the lee.

I couldnt agree more. Chemistry makes all the difference in the world.

I was trying to explain the part about reaction. One of the videos that he sent me was an entire clip of closeups on the tickling, with no shots of the faces at all, and more dialog than laughing.

 

[tku]

...ticklephiles are inherently reaction junkies. laughter, taunting, etc. as long as it is genuine then anything that gives us more insight into the events that are going on and how they make the people involved feel stimulates the parts of our twisted minds that like the idea of tickling someone...

Nicely put 🙂

...I was trying to explain the part about reaction. One of the videos that he sent me was an entire clip of closeups on the tickling, with no shots of the faces at all, and more dialog than laughing.

I can't think of a good clip I have seen which has no facial shots with more dialog than tickling...sounds a bad recipe to be honest.

I don't mind a bit of talk, but in the main I prefer the tickler to shut up and get on with the task at hand. I don't want to hear the 'ler laughing away either...it's distracting and only detracts from a clip, in my opinion.

Also, those wispy feathers that were used in the clip you posted should be burned! The only good feather is a stiff quill, not something out of a pillow 😀

Thanks 🙂