Calling all lees - a ler is in need of your insights

[mykal]

First, I would like to start out by saying that, being strictly a ler, finding a forum like the TMF and learning that there are actually people out there that are 'lees still tends to blow my mind, and is also something that my mind still hasn't fully accepted as fact. For this reason, this post may ramble a bit as I try to get my thoughts out, so I beg forgiveness well in advance.

This leads me to my question. For all you lees, male and/or female. What is it that you enjoy about being tickled?

I had a girlfriend who enjoyed it because for her, if someone tickled her, it meant that they cared enough about her to make the effort of tickling her. But for her, it never was anything more, and when we were together she let me tickle her more to indulge me than because of any enjoyment that she got from it.

So, I am appealing to the lee population of the TMF to help enlighten me as to the lee perspective on being tickled. Help a poor 'ler understand things from the 'lee point of view.

Also, I heard mention in the chatroom earlier today that being tickled can be very much a love/hate kind of thing. Once again, forgive my being obtuse, but could any lees that feel that way clarify exactly what you mean by that?

I thank you in advance for any and all answers that I receive.

Mykal

 

[cecilia]

First, I would like to start out by saying that, being strictly a ler, finding a forum like the TMF and learning that there are actually people out there that are 'lees still tends to blow my mind, and is also something that my mind still hasn't fully accepted as fact. For this reason, this post may ramble a bit as I try to get my thoughts out, so I beg forgiveness well in advance.

This leads me to my question. For all you lees, male and/or female. What is it that you enjoy about being tickled?

I had a girlfriend who enjoyed it because for her, if someone tickled her, it meant that they cared enough about her to make the effort of tickling her. But for her, it never was anything more, and when we were together she let me tickle her more to indulge me than because of any enjoyment that she got from it.

So, I am appealing to the lee population of the TMF to help enlighten me as to the lee perspective on being tickled. Help a poor 'ler understand things from the 'lee point of view.

I like the way being tickled while being restrained feels. It's scary in a pleasant sort of way. And I like that unbearbly intense feeling; I like wanting to stop it and not being able to stop it and having it go on and on🙂


Also, I heard mention in the chatroom earlier today that being tickled can be very much a love/hate kind of thing. Once again, forgive my being obtuse, but could any lees that feel that way clarify exactly what you mean by that?

I thank you in advance for any and all answers that I receive.

Mykal

 

[phatteus]

Celia, I think you forgot something, dear...


Mykal, to answer your question, I suppose the drive of the ticklee is one of a shift of power. Why do some men like to be chained to the wall and whipped or burned or kicked in the groin? It is a matter of power. Some men (and women) find being degraded very erotic.

For me, being tickled is a very erotic thing. I have described tickling to a girlfriend as "sex, but all over my body". So for me, being a ticklee is an extension of my sexuality. (Note, as a result, I love being tickled by women, but am abhorrently disgusted by being tickled by other men.)

 

[Lazarus]

Was 100% 'Ler

Until I had met Meems, I was 100% 'Ler......and she was pretty much 100% 'Lee.....

Now that she's had a taste of tickling an Xtremely (pun intended) ticklish man 24/7, and I have been subjected to the MOST torturous tickling a human can go thru.....

I am now about 50/50 on the Ler and Lee, and I can't speak for Meems....

But, as far as being the 'Lee....there is NOTHING more erotic when it comes to tickling than being tied down and helpless, and the woman you love standing-or stradling- over you, looking all sexy, and as she starts wiggling her fingers, knowing that sadistic grin on her face.....


MMMMMMMMMM......GOOD!!!!!

But, it's just the trust; the love knowing that the other person will respect and honour your safewords, and provide aftercare.....


Besides, being as my last match is coming up sometime in the next few months, being tied and tickled is a GREAT way to work on my cardio and endurance.....


Thank you very much.....



Wil

 

[Knox The Hatter]

I've sat and thought about it,and the truth is I simply can't answer this question to your satisfaction. I just like to receive as much as I like to give...

 

[JPie1]

actually very well said Knox, my thoughts exactly. I love being a ler but there is something open and releasing about being bound and tickled.

 

[wigglesngiggles]

Can't speak for others but being a lee is the one time that I totally shed all the layers of my day to day life...ie...full time worker...mother...financial planner...etc...etc. And the REAL ME comes forth. Kindof like that saying "what you see is what you get", the giggles and laughter is totally me letting go. Its not only me physically but mentally letting go and in return the ler may see the "little girl", "prim and proper" or the "wicked wench" in me come bounding forward.
What can I say? LOL..it's food for my soul!

 

[Ayla ny]

the adrenalin rush. the complete lost of control and any inhibitions. the sensation itself. the giving of your self-control and body to someone else. that satisfied and exhausted feeling afterward, mixed with lingering tingly sensation and leftover adrenalin.

or... sometimes... just the fun, sweet panic you feel when you see that look in his eye before he has even touched you.

to name a few. 🙂

I would suggest reading a few of the stories written by ‘lees, from a ‘lees perspective. they speak volumes. sometimes it’s easier to put into a story than it is to explain.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Well, I'm 100% lee and for me the excitement is a little bit of sexual and a little bit of flirty and a little bit of just being able to let loose and scream your head off if that's what the situation calls for 🙂 Not to mention I'm a VERY touchy-feely person in general so i LOVE to be massaged, tickled and touched in general. And even though tickling isn't entirly sexual for me, I really do prefer to be tickled by guys. A couple of my very very close friends that i've known practically my entire life can get away with tickling me (they're female) but as far as any other females are concerned it really is a big huge fat disappointment. I mean it's like a waste of being tickled lol Here i am being tickled (which is great) but because it's by a female and tickling holds a little sexuality for me, i can't enjoy it.

Wow...don't feel bad apparently I ramble too lol Anyway, my point is..i like tickling for a bunch of little reasons, the sexuality, the flirtyness, and the fun 🙂

That was kinda all over the place but..i hope it helped 🙂

 

[chrisheaven]

I enjoy both ler and lee roles- revenge is so good!!

 

[mykal]

Thank you for all the responses

I wanted to thank all the lees for the their responses. I found them all to be very informative and very helpful. Also, if any other lees out there wish to add their ticklish two cents, please feel free. The more the merrier.

Mykal

 

[Eternal Tomboy]

Let's see if I can find the right words.....

To explain why I love something that most people find excruciating (except for those that hang around the TMF of course...lol)..hmmmm.

I'm a bit of a tomboy, and tend to put up a kind of a "don't f*$# with me" attitude with guys (in a playful way, of course. I've always got a bit of a smile on my face and spark of fun in my eyes when a guy starts with me). Whenever a guy wants to wrestle around or rough house with me (which I'm usually more than willing to do), I'm not going to give in and say "mercy" too easily.
Now, those guys that actually know me, know that this "attitude" of mine is only skin deep (I'm pretty much a tomboy, with a girlie girl hiding underneath...lol). I put up my "tough girl" front mainly because it gives the guy the "green light" to play with me, and it also lets them know that they don't need to handle me with kid gloves. I also find that most guys love the challenge that I present when I'm confronted (again, in a playful way.)

But the REAL reason I start off with this kind of attitude is becaue I LOVE the thrill of defeat...yes, I said defeat. Winning in these instances is no fun for me. I love to be brought to the point where I have to give in and admit defeat. Weird? Maybe. Especially considering that I have a stubborn streak a mile long, and hate to give the other person bragging rights. But aside from my bruised ego, I LOVE all other aspects about forced submission (assuming that the person making me submit is doing it in a playful way)

Along with the thrill of defeat, I also get a huge rush from the actual ticklish sensations. Just talking about tickling gives me butterflies, and actually doing it gives me an adrenaline rush like I get when I ride roller coasters.

I also love to laugh (even when tickling isn't involved...lol). It is a great stress reliever! For me, there is nothing sexier than a guy with a great sense of humor. Every guy I have ever been attracted to has been able to make me laugh (even when I'm pissed off). I work with a couple of guys that can change a crappy day at work into something fun just by goofing around with me. I love that. Once I get laughing, any chance at being a grump goes straight out the window! 😛



Maggie

 

[starfires]

As you've probably noticed by now, lees are all different, though there are some groups that share common trends.
As for me... where shall I begin. I like the sensation itself, the laughter, the ability to let go and enjoy the moment, the adrenaline, the touch, and the full body workout potential. Tickling as a phenomenon also fascinates me intellectually. I suspect if I understood it completely, it wouldn't be as fun anymore.
By the way, what you said about discovering the existence of 'lees is interesting; could you please describe what that was like? (I've always been a ler and a lee, and I was rather surprised to find out that there exist people who are one but not the other. (Not as surprised, of course, as I was to find out that there were others, period.))

 

[mykal]

How it felt to discover lees

I have two answers for this question. A short one and a long one.
First, here's the short one:

For me, learning that there actually are lees out in the world allowed me to start accepting my love of tickling as being okay.


Now for the long one:

I've been a ler for as long as I can remember, first just because I just enjoyed tickling and then later it became part of my sexuality. Before I found out that I wasn't alone, I felt, first and foremost, as though there might have been something wrong with me because I wanted to tickle women and also found it erotic. But then, even if I could accept the fact that tickling was a part of my sexuality and that it was ok, all of the feedback that I got from the mainstream media and at home told me that being tickled was unpleasant and tortuous and that tickling someone was cruel. Needless to say, I had a hard time coming to terms with everything.

The first time I realized that I wasn't the only person to find tickling erotic was when I was 20 years old and a friend of mine was reading through the ads in the back of some magazine. There was a small ad from someone selling fetish videos. My friend was laughing about it and reading the list of fetishes aloud. I wasn't really paying attention until I heard him say 'tickling'. I acted as though it didn't affect me, but my heart was hammering in my chest because I realized that I wasn't alone. I was so relieved and excited, but at the same time, the idea of people enjoying being tickled was still something that I couldn't conceive of. Then, with the help of the internet and newsgroups, I found that there were lots of people into tickling, but I still hadn't been exposed to lees.

Finally, after finding the TMF, it has been a lot like group therapy. 🙂 When I first started lurking, I had trouble accepting the fact I really wasn't alone. I still had a lot of guilt and went through one or two of the imfamous PURGES that have been discussed from time to time. Ironically, it wasn't until I happened to stumble across the TKLovers forum hosted by ForeverRio and TickleFan and saw a discussion area just for lees that it finally clicked and I could start to accept that there are lees that enjoy being tickled. Also, knowing that there are lees has enabled me to put aside the guilt that I've carried around because I'm a ler. It is finally sinking in that tickling is something that can be shared. (Reading of several of the true stories posted here has also helped)

Btw, that is also the main reason for my starting this thread. It's kind of like asking someone to pinch you just to make sure that you aren't dreaming.

Mykal

 

[BOFH666]

Arghh, I’ve tried about six different ways to answer this, and I’m still not happy that I’ve got it right. The problem is there’s a lot of very personal stuff that I don’t want to put on a public forum out of respect, so if you or anyone else want to discuss any of this, feel free to e-mail (address is in my profile) and I’ll see what I can do to explain things a little better.

Anyway, I think maybe the best way to answer this is with a very short flashback to my first ‘real’ tickle experience. I’ll leave out the details, but suffice to say a very pretty lass I’d had a crush on for the last two years or so decided to play around. Now I had just turned 18 at the time, she was about a year older and we ended up back at her place. Problem was I had this weird concept, still do for that matter, that I won’t sleep with someone for a one night stand no matter what, if there’s nothing there emotionally it just seems dead somehow. Strange but true.

As I said, I was only 18 and didn’t have the graceful diplomacy (cough) I do today. We talked for a bit, she made a move and I cut it short in a way that really wasn’t subtle. We talked a bit more, well, okay, I talked, a lot, very quickly while trying to dig myself out of a very large hole, and I think she finally understood where I was coming from. As tensions eased off she jumped me and we ended up rolling around tickling each other until she got behind me, pinned me to the floor and had me in tears shortly after. I’ve never known anyone like her when it comes to tickling you silly, but no matter what she tried I wouldn’t agree to what she was asking. She wasn’t asking it seriously I don’t think, just curious to see how long I’d hold out from doing something I didn’t want to do (or rather, did want to do but thought I shouldn’t).

We got together for real a short time later, and tickling was a regular part of our foreplay. Which brings me neatly on to the answer to your question, as the reason I love doing this hasn’t changed. While it is an intensely erotic experience, for me the real ‘reward’ if you will is the look on your ticklers face when they realise how much trust and faith you’re putting in them after they’ve tickled you half to death. There’s also the whole battle of wills thing to play around with, and the relaxation you feel afterwards, when all the stresses and troubles of the day have been driven out, beats any massage you’ll find on this or any other planet. Unfortunately that relationship was, let’s say cut short and leave it at that.

In short, while I love both tickling and being tickled, given the choice my idea of heaven is a real inventive lass, a couple of days in a secluded location and having her not only test my limits but push me way beyond them, because when I trust someone enough to do that, to allow myself to be in that position, that’s a person that I will love unconditionally for as long as she’ll have me.