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Celebrity AI tickling

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Credo 420

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I get that this is technically artwork but it's also very clearly celebrity and mainstream so I don't know if deleting it because it's in the wrong place is appropriate.
 
Sounds like a more personal prejudice towards AI then what actually makes sense but whatever
 
Also what's happening with YouTube has nothing to do with what's going on here LOL

There hasn't been good mainstream stuff on YouTube for years
 
Credo 420 said:
Sounds like a more personal prejudice towards AI then what actually makes sense but whatever
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Nope. I have zero issues with AI

AI isn’t real, it’s fake and artwork, this forum is for mainstream clips and videos.

AI belongs in the art section, it has nothing to do with mainstream no matter who’s involved in the video.

It’s no different than someone creating a picture of say Margot Robbie in stocks, that’s artwork of a real celebrity but not mainstream
 
Yeah, absolutely no problem with an AI section, but let's keep the mainstream section for mainstream content.

I don't want to see "Sabrina Carpenter gets tied to an X-frame and WRECKED" on here - only to find that it's an AI video. Don't toy with my feelings like that.

I do enjoy the stuff you've been posting, Credo, but this just isn't the right spot for it.
 
Credo 420 said:
Sounds like a more personal prejudice towards AI then what actually makes sense but whatever
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I think what you may be missing is that, for many people, the whole appeal of mainstream content is its realness -- its authenticity.

For example, would you put a fetish-porn clip of an actor cosplaying as Candice Owens in the "celebrity" subforum? To most people, that would be obviously absurd, but AI is essentially the same thing. AI is just using a computer program to do the cosplaying instead of an actor.

So no, it has nothing to do with prejudice. It's about reality vs. imitation.
 
Studious_Hustler said:
I think what you may be missing is that, for many people, the whole appeal of mainstream content is its realness -- its authenticity.

For example, would you put a fetish-porn clip of an actor cosplaying as Candice Owens in the "celebrity" subforum? To most people, that would be obviously absurd, but AI is essentially the same thing. AI is just using a computer program to do the cosplaying instead of an actor.

So no, it has nothing to do with prejudice. It's about reality vs. imitation.
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Absolutely. If I can add to that - the appeal of mainstream tickling is also in its scarcity. It's so rare to discover a scene where your favourite actor/actress is tickled in some situation or another, so it always feels exciting and urgent.

Part of what I enjoy about this kink is how rare it is to see it in the wild or in the mainstream. We don't always eat but when we do we sure eat good.
 
Credo 420 said:
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How does it make sense for FAKE videos to be in either section for REAL videos or confirmations? How about a painting of some celebrity being tickled, should that be in this section?
 
I am honestly a bit surprised AI Artwork doesn't have it's own subsection, yet. It seems like there are plenty of pieces to justify the addition of a subsection for it.

Personally, I can take it or leave it, but I do dislike that people are not properly titling it as AI artwork, at times.
 
Some good points here and I think I was wrong. This makes sense.

I was probably also looking at the particular clips that I had put up in how they were a little bit more story based and not necessarily just an image animated. But scrolling through the art forum I could definitely see how it would be extremely convoluted to have all the different AI shit over here just cuz it involves celebrities. I get it.
 
Also I totally get the not labeling it as AI thing. I was actually hoping to pass it off as real at first glance LOL but I see why it's better to label it especially with YouTube. I retitled the actual Candice Owens video to have ai in it.
 
I’m likely an outlier on this, but there’s something slightly off-putting about the AI thing with celebrities. It’s one thing to create art or write a story or similar. It's entirely another to have a program manufacture what seems to be a real video using a real person doing things they would not be doing willingly normally. Just because they make movies or tv or whatever doesn’t magically make it different than if a family member came to me upset that someone manufactured a video that appeared to show them doing things or having things done to them that they would never do. It just kinda make it seem very… just.. hmmm. Again, I’m likely alone in thinking like this here, but we all feel and think how we do. I do feel like AI content should be labeled and potentially in its own “channel”.
 
mainstream materials, they are very rare and unique, AI content should be in another section, since this does not apply to uniqueness and everyone can do whatever they want, I think TMF administrators will allow you to post AI materials in the mainstream section only after the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame the first AI musician will appear
 
There's already an AI actress getting movie roles so an AI artist in the Hall of Fame isn't that far off.

As far as it being wrong to make videos of people without consent. I think that is a legitimate question. They're also might be some pretty serious guardrails put in place soon but then again it's making a fuck ton of money.

I think you have a better argument when it comes to regular people. Not that it's any less fucked up but celebrities are already in the public light.

Also up until more recent AI like Sora etc, it had been frowned upon and against a lot of policies to make a likeliness of a known person.

That shit has flown out the window though because Sora content that's getting the most attention is generations of celebrities past and present. Ultimately I expect the hammer to fall with this kind of stuff but in the meantime it's open season. There's also celebrities that have already signed up and given over their likeliness. It's even possible through the generation to see which ones the AI struggles to represent in comparison to one that is definitely in their system.

There's just a lot to this.
 
Some of the very celebrities that might be painted as victims of the AI could very well be the investors into the companies at the same time. It's good to keep all this in mind.
 
I 100% have so many issues with AI that it would take a massive blog post to discuss it. Especially after 14,000 Amazon layoffs and being replaced by AI. Artists work being "borrowed" by AI, and so on and so forth. If it were up to me, there would be no AI content on the TMF, but im clearly not in charge, so...

Still, it brings me a little bit of joy deep down inside when AI published content is posted and gets very little views/comments on here. I think the majority of us are unified in our feelings towards AI content.

What the mods need to do is create a separate sub-forum on the TMF for "AI content". I dont want to see machine learning slop mixed in with human artwork in the tickling art section either. I would rather segregate it to its very own section where it cam be entirely avoided and ignored if we so choose.

In fact, I think when I am done typing this hateful anti-AI post, im going to message the administrators and suggest this very thing. AI may be the future, but it doesnt HAVE TO BE a part of our future.
 
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Some of the very celebrities that might be painted as victims of the AI could very well be the investors into the companies at the same time. It's good to keep all this in mind.
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Yeah, I'm sure that one or two celebrities who MAY have opted in for the use of their likeness or made/be making deals with AI companies TOTALLY justifies the sloppy, de facto deepfakes of the vast majority of their colleagues who didn't.
 
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Yeah, I'm sure that one of two celebrities who MAY have opted in for the use of their likeness or made/be making deals with AI companies TOTALLY justifies the sloppy, de facto deepfakes of the vast majority of their colleagues who didn't.
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Deep fakes are actually a HUGE problem, and the issue is only going to get 100x worse in the future. I just dont understand how anyone can get any pride or satisfaction from creating deekfakes of people without their consent in fetish-like or sexual situations.

And then other people get their rocks off on it as if it isnt fake. And the worst part is its getting harder and harder to tell if its fake or not. In my opinion, the TMF should take a stand against deep fakes and ban them, but again, im not in charge.

I imagine though if somebody started making deep fakes of TMF members including some of the people on here who get their livelihoods from tickling content, that stuff wouldn't fly...

Deepfakes are morally and ethically wrong. Anyone that says or tries to argue otherwise is part of the larger problem.
 
Well calm down bro, you sound very uninformed.

And yeah when someone throws up a 2 second clip of a poorly animated video with no audio, that's AI slop. Yet convincing videos with a little bit of story, like I've been putting up have been getting lots of views and attention.

So I think it comes down to using AI as a tool or just letting it be its own slop.

And by the logic of this being so wrong.. that would mean any story written about celebrity tickling, any artwork drawn, etc... would all be immoral in the same way. So if we're outlying AI we should outlaw tickling stories etc.

Also you would be surprised how many people have sent me messages asking for clips.

Most people do it in DMS rather than on the site because people just start insulting the AI or whatever.
 
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I just put up a Rhea Ripley video.
Ana Kaspariann, Ronda Rousey, Neve Campbell, and Jennifer Love Hewitt in the chamber.

Lots of people have been asking for Jenna Ortega but I've never seen any of her work. LOL

Maybe I'll watch scream 5 and 6
 
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