Chineese Tickle Torture

[kis123]

Or.....

He was an officer of the law doing his sworn job defending his government from subversives from within society.

Thank goodness that wasn't your mother, sister, wife, girlfriend, or anyone else personal to you. Would you feel the same way then?

 

[Texas_Tickle]

Or.....

He was an officer of the law doing his sworn job defending his government from subversives from within society.

So because she was a Christian, she got what she deserved?

 

[Texas_Tickle]

Subversives? It's pretty sad that we've still got a lot of places that put the basic human rights of pursuing a life of liberty and happiness beneath the ruling power. I thank God I'm a United States citizen, and that I can make the decision to pay fealty to the God of my choosing without having to worry about something like this happening to me.

Agreed. And while I like OddJobs and consider him a friend, I must very thoroughly disagree with what he stated.

 

[leafstk]

that is terrible!

😱 No kidding!

 

[Marauder]

I thank God I'm a United States citizen, and that I can make the decision to pay fealty to the God of my choosing without having to worry about something like this happening to me.

Great! I'll apply for citizenship immediately. I always wanted to celebrate my religion of fatalistic anarchistic satanism which requires me to publicaly piss on a star-spangled banner while cursing loudly and smoking a cigarette in a public place. Thank god the States still embrace people of all inclinations without persecution through either government or public.

Okay, it's a hyperbole. I don't agree with people being tortured. But pulling the "land of the free" card is not exactly wise given the current situation. "Terror alert red" anyone? I suppose that Oddjob wanted to act as an advocatus diabolii here. It's a bit tasteless, given the definite violation of human rights stated in the initial post, but it still raises the question of how firm your platform is when you judge others.

Also, the reference for the initial post is somewhat obscure and I'm not sure whether to believe it. I usually rely on Amnesty International reports to judge human rights infrictions, and this occurance hasn't been recorded by them. I find it too easy to use human interest reporting to sway opinions to readily go into moral outrage mode from something I read on the internet.

 

[Oddjob0226]

Or....

In a past life, the policeman was a puppy, and the woman ate him. Perhaps it was not repression, but destiny.

 

[TicklingIsLife]

nah, being shot would be too easy for them to handle. it's over to quickly. they need to feel what that woman felt like. (if the story is true). thus, a good baseball bat beating and then prison for many years where they could find some new "lovers" is the best thing for them.

Ouch

 

[Phineas]

Re: Sadly she is not alone

In China, worshipping God is grounds for immediate execution....no trial....no hearing..... just the firing squad

really? you may want to tell my wife's cousin, who's a practicing Catholic in China. They go to church regularly in Beijing. Mass is even held in Latin.

...and nobody put me in front of a firing squad for praying at any number of temples while I was there earlier this year.

the Chinese government opposes no religion that it doesn't feel opposes it. now granted, if the police really want to arrest you they'll make up any charge they damn well please, but God is not officially against the law in China, and certainly not grounds for execution by firing squad.

sorry if I shattered anyone's stereotypes, but I call bullshit when I see it.

 

[Texas_Tickle]

Re: Re: Sadly she is not alone

sorry if I shattered anyone's stereotypes, but I call bullshit when I see it.

Tell that to the families of those who were executed for refusing to denounce Jesus Christ.

Just cause it has not happened to your family (thank God) does not mean it does not happen.....

 

[Phineas]

I know fiction is a lot more appealing than the truth, TM... but you're completely missing my point. Worshipping God, Jesus, Buddha, or even potato salad is not against the law in China. If it was, there would not be a Catholic church in downtown Beijing.

That woman's arrest was the exception, not the norm.

The (corrupt) police probably felt the woman was an insurgent and just used her religion as an excuse to pull her in so they could bully her. I don't condone it, but the Official Party Line is not anti-religion in any form and there is open, public worship of God. My uncle's a judge in Xuzhou, so trust me... we'd know if it was against the law.

 

[Oddjob0226]

Re: Re: Sadly she is not alone

sorry if I shattered anyone's stereotypes, but I call bullshit when I see it.

Yeah, I can call it too - and I bet you're not REALLY sorry! So ha! Busted!

 

[Phineas]

Re: Re: Re: Sadly she is not alone

Yeah, I can call it too - and I bet you're not REALLY sorry! So ha! Busted!

 

[Haltickling]

As far as I know, the PRC shut down all Lamaist monasteries in Tibet, but not because they are against religion. The monks actually represented the worldly power in Tibet as well, and their monasteries were regarded as cells of resistance against China.

Nowadays, only the Falun Gong are forbidden, because they are considered a dangerous sect (dangerous to the party line). That places them in line with other dissidents and has nothing to do with religion. It's a political matter.

This doesn't excuse their violation of human rights, of course, nor does it excuse Western countries (including my own) doing a lot of business with the PRC...

 

[Phineas]

That places them in line with other dissidents and has nothing to do with religion. It's a political matter.

you're correct, Hal. Like I said above, the Chinese government is not against any religion that doesn't oppose the party; and even then, they're not against that religion because it's a religion, but because its members are considered political dissidents.

there's no hidden cells of Christians fearfully worshipping in their basements terrified the PLA is going to come busting down their doors and arrest them because they have a cross in their possession. even asking my wife if TickleMaster's assertion was true got me one of the strangest looks I've received from her in a long time... along with the response "that's ridiculous."

we can just as easily assert that being black in America is grounds for being arrested, beaten, and tortured because it happened to Rodney King, Amadou Diallo (sp), and that guy who sued the NYPD because some officers stuffed a plunger up his butt.

 

[Marauder]

Hmm, I went overboard there. You can't honestly compare the human rights situation in China and the U.S. of A. My post was over the top and a wanton provocation. I apologize for the implied attack. The non-anti-american part of my post still stands. I won't edit it, either - it can be used against me should I ever accuse someone of going off half-cocked.