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Commuter plane crashes in Kentucky

isabeau

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a delta comair crashed after take off at the Blue Grass Airport in Lexington Kentucky..killing every one on board..the plane was headed to Atlanta..forty seven people and three flight crew. bad weather is the factor, reported so far...update..one survivor...critical condition...a report is saying the plane took off on the wrong runway...one that is too short for the plane..the plane went down in a wooded area...explosion heard..also reporting the plane might have been too heavy..
 
update....plane took off on the wrong runway...far too short for that plane..whose fault is that?
 
elfriend said:
someone survived!!!! Are you serious! That is one lucky dude!
Yeah, it was the flight's first officer, in fact. So, as much as we wish everyone had survived, it's fortunate in a way that if anyone were to live through it it would be one of the flight crew since, if he/she recovers, he/she will be able to shed a lot of light on what happened (I certainly don't mean that as a pun playing on what I'll write below). The last news report I heard quoted a first responder--or perhaps the local coroner, I forget which--who said that the deaths of the rest of the crew and passengers were being tentatively determined as "fire related," and from that he excluded smoke related. Horrible. More tragedy: among the passengers was a young couple who had gotten married just the day before.

I also heard indications that the wrong, short runway the plane tried to take off from was lit in the pre-dawn darkness but it wasn't supposed to be. As a pilot (private, not commerical) myself, as much as we're trained always to go by the book and check and double-check everything, it's easy to fall back into a routine and do things by reflex. You tend to tone out the control tower's complete instructions sometimes (and many times they talk so fast or the radio communications are so poor I can't understand them fully, and you don't want to be a pain in the ass every time and make them repeat things) and just go by habit. There's one runway with the lights on, O.K., that must be the one they want me to use, and 99 times out of a hundred it is. This is not in any way offering an excuse for pilot error, but I'm afraid this is what the story will be in the end.
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Nedstacey2 said:
Update: now they say the short runway was in fact not lit. Shoulda known better than to rely on a TV news report only about 12 hours after the fact. From the new details I've heard, it's really a mystery why the plane went down that runway.
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ahh thanks for that..hmm well if the co-pilot happens to survive maybe he can tell us what happened..
 
isabeau said:
ahh thanks for that..hmm well if the co-pilot happens to survive maybe he can tell us what happened..
Yes, isabeau, indeed the indications now are that although the chief pilot taxied the plane up to the (wrong) runway, the first officer himself was in control on takeoff. Incredibly ironic. And questions about the controllers, or rather controller, in the tower. Apparently there was only one on duty where there were supposed to be two, and I heard a report that the one turned his back after giving the flight clearance to take off. That in itself is not against the regs--after the ground gives clearance, the responsibility for what happens next is generally ascribed to the aircraft's pilot(s)--but an understaffed tower would make the situation all the more tragic. KLEX is not a busy airport, so what if there had been someone from up high paying attention so that he/she could have warned the pilot he was going down too short a runway? The takeoff could most likely have been aborted with no worse a consequence than that the plane might have gone off the end of the runway, bumped and bruised as may have been some of the passengers and crew, with the remote possibility of a small fire breaking out, but everything and everybody still safely on the ground. 🙁
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