Do Models Ever Research This Product, Before They Sign The Papers?

[TRU]

It seems like a lot of the models that realtickling, tickle abuse, silvercherry and other companies hire, have no idea what they are getting themselves into? I mean, they think they are getting into some light hearted tickling, and its an easy way to make some money. Yet, they seem to never bother researching into the product, and they come into the shoot with a naive attitude about the whole thing. And a lot of times, they end up hating the experience and never come back? I know this is the case for maybe half of the videos I've ordered.

I think its funny too. I mean, a lot of these girls don't realize how ticklish they really are until they get strapped down and get tested. I personally think its awesome, but I also think they are naive.

 

[LD_Tickler]

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of models were like this. It's the same for anything, no matter how prepared you think you are for something, the actual experience can steamroll you.

 

[Redmage]

Some models do, some don't. However you might also want to consider that "She had no idea what she was getting into" or "Once we started, she wanted to stop" makes great marketing copy.

 

[rhiannon]

Plus, I am pretty sure every model gets a safeword (would be pretty stupid if they didn't!). So they can end it at any time! If they think it's worth hanging in there longer for the money - their decision!

 

[Tickle Abuse]

It seems like a lot of the models that realtickling, tickle abuse, silvercherry and other companies hire, have no idea what they are getting themselves into? I mean, they think they are getting into some light hearted tickling, and its an easy way to make some money. Yet, they seem to never bother researching into the product, and they come into the shoot with a naive attitude about the whole thing. And a lot of times, they end up hating the experience and never come back? I know this is the case for maybe half of the videos I've ordered.

I think its funny too. I mean, a lot of these girls don't realize how ticklish they really are until they get strapped down and get tested. I personally think its awesome, but I also think they are naive.

Please dont assume anything about tickleabuse and imply that I trick models because it isn't true. Some of the lees are friends or friends of friends, and other are models or people I meet on the street. EVERYONE MUST look at my website and watch the video samples. For one, so that they can tell me whether they are as ticklish as my girls in the samples and secondly so they know what they are getting themselves into exactly. I don't want anyone here at my place who isn't open minded and thinks tickling is for freaks and I certainly can't use someone who isn't ticklish. That's why my videos come out the best, I only will film people who I don't mind hanging out with in my home. Shoots are more like parties and not formal at all.

I have heard from other people and have been shown proof of atleast one producer who uses deceptive ways to get models, but I don't believe most producers of any fetish do this. I tell the girls exactly that they are going to have the shit tickled out of them and its ok to change your mind, this is why I will never do a nonconsentual video, for one it isn't possible to really produce one and no point in saying it is real. Would you want to be tricked into signing a model release for one thing and end up being in a video you knew nothing about?

You see many of my girls coming back again and again, why? Because they are told the truth about everything ahead of time, they are treated with respect, and every model can buy back their videos back at any time if they ever have a change of heart about being in a tickle video. To date, not a single model has brought back his/her video.

 

[Sandrock74]

Please dont assume anything about tickleabuse and imply that I trick models because it isn't true. Some of the lees are friends or friends of friends, and other are models or people I meet on the street. EVERYONE MUST look at my website and watch the video samples. For one, so that they can tell me whether they are as ticklish as my girls in the samples and secondly so they know what they are getting themselves into exactly. I don't want anyone here at my place who isn't open minded and thinks tickling is for freaks and I certainly can't use someone who isn't ticklish. That's why my videos come out the best, I only will film people who I don't mind hanging out with in my home. Shoots are more like parties and not formal at all.

I have heard from other people and have been shown proof of atleast one producer who uses deceptive ways to get models, but I don't believe most producers of any fetish do this. I tell the girls exactly that they are going to have the shit tickled out of them and its ok to change your mind, this is why I will never do a nonconsentual video, for one it isn't possible to really produce one and no point in saying it is real. Would you want to be tricked into signing a model release for one thing and end up being in a video you knew nothing about?

You see many of my girls coming back again and again, why? Because they are told the truth about everything ahead of time, they are treated with respect, and every model can buy back their videos back at any time if they ever have a change of heart about being in a tickle video. To date, not a single model has brought back his/her video.

Thanks Tommy, that was all really informative. The trivia geek in me likes to know all this "back stage" or off camera stuff.

 

[mabus]

I have heard from other people and have been shown proof of atleast one producer who uses deceptive ways to get models, but I don't believe most producers of any fetish do this. I tell the girls exactly that they are going to have the shit tickled out of them and its ok to change your mind, this is why I will never do a nonconsentual video, for one it isn't possible to really produce one and no point in saying it is real. Would you want to be tricked into signing a model release for one thing and end up being in a video you knew nothing about?

You see many of my girls coming back again and again, why? Because they are told the truth about everything ahead of time, they are treated with respect, and every model can buy back their videos back at any time if they ever have a change of heart about being in a tickle video. To date, not a single model has brought back his/her video.

DAMN, if only you could entice Lauren back.....in pantyhose, with no stocks so she actually laughs again.... shucks!
Of course that begs the questions, why do some girls, like her, not want to return? Why'd they sign up in the first place, then that's it?
Why do some girls who do it regularly, not return? Do the producers get tired of them, or do they decide to leave?

We all look back and think of the models who just KICKED ASS, like Ariane at RealTickling, Priscilla for those who liked her, Glenora at Tickling Paradise, etc. If anyone asks about them, the producers just ignore us. (I am certainly not the only one, I'm just the only one who wonders aloud why the producers don't answer all those guys back honestly, because they are fans, and are simpy curious...with the intent of giving said producers, MONEY for the new VIDEOS.)

And who are these producers who trick their models...and how do they trick them? Wouldn't the models beat the shit out of the producer once he untied them? How can they even sell the videos without consent forms?
I doubt I'd buy from those guys if I found out who they are, that's why I want to know. I have this thing about models who WANT to be tickled, in real life, and in the story of the clip, I certainly don't want to pay money for one who really DOESN'T want to be tickled!

 

[mabus]

Thanks Tommy, that was all really informative. The trivia geek in me likes to know all this "back stage" or off camera stuff.

I would LOVE to see behind the scenes at a tickling shoot. I've bought movies just for the making of featurettes. Tickling Paradise is the only company that I've seen offer these clips, though Tickletown has offered a few clips of Chesh talking about role playing games before a shoot, that was really cool.

 

[rhiannon]

There can be plenty of reasons why they don't come back....their financial situation improves....they move....they get a partner who doesn't tolerate it.....

 

[Tickle Abuse]

There can be plenty of reasons why they don't come back....their financial situation improves....they move....they get a partner who doesn't tolerate it.....

The BIGGEST reason why a model won't come back is a new bf, lol, especially for younger girls. More mature models often are recently single/divorced and just want to try something new and fun once, though many do want to come back. Of course some people come for the money, but not just for the money, I don't want people like that. It's like anything else, you can't expect people to work for free, but the appeal for my girls is that they get paid to have an awesome time!

 

[Tickle Abuse]

I would LOVE to see behind the scenes at a tickling shoot. I've bought movies just for the making of featurettes. Tickling Paradise is the only company that I've seen offer these clips, though Tickletown has offered a few clips of Chesh talking about role playing games before a shoot, that was really cool.

I really want to buy another camera just for behind the scenes stuff, and also so I can film multiple angles and make some pic in pic videos. I have experimented with pic in pic, its kinda cool, lol, but maybe not worth the trouble. But a second camera would go in the hands of one of the models, especially brand new girls documenting their first tickling experience with thoughts and clips of her watching other girls getting tickled ahead of her. That would be interesting for sure.

 

[skelyrata]

Is part of the game

There are many reasons why a model stop working for a studio. Mostly they just retired and move on to do other stuff, like graduated from collage, got a regular job, got married, etc. Some girls just do it once, just for experimentation and thats it.

I agree with Tickle Abuse. Don't asume they stop coming because they hated the experience.

I follow the same steps, Tickle Abuse does. When a model contact me, I ask her to take a look at my site so that she has a good idea of what to expect. Even if she is a profesional model that goes around different studios, every producer has a different style, so her experience with one might not be the same as with another one. Thats why is important they see the samples and the site before agreeing to come for the shoot.

Now even the more experienced of models, if you press the right spots on her body will go insane laughing, cursing and yelling. Thats a good tickle do. Find the spots and exploit them. And that will bring the cursing and the "I hate this!". But thats like telling someone "I'm gonna kill you!" is just blowing out steam. After the session is over, and they get time to breath and relax, everything is happy and cordial.

You would be surprise, but many models actually get excited when they find a tickler that know how to push them to their limits and at the end they keep saying "Thats was a good one!", even if they were screaming "I hate this!" during the entire session.

One example of this was my dear Emily. She loved the before and after feeling, but hated going through the tickling.

It happens a lot with Lexi Lee when i find a spot and she is out of control and can't stop laughing, she starts saying "I hate you!" but is just adrenaline talking. At the end of that kind of sessions she is the one that says "That was a good one!".

At the end of the day, this is why we love tickling. Is very unpredictable. You never know how the model will react.



Now, having said that, I have also heard of some "producers", not necesarily tickling producers, but fetish in general, that trick the models with a "just tickling" shoot and once they are all tied up and helpless they do everything except tickling, and ignoring the models screams for stop or obvious side that she is non consenting the acts. This bad producers are giving good producers a really hard time earning models trust and I think it would be very beneficial if those models give details of who are this yerk producers and warn other models to avoid them. From the information I have gathered from the models, this "yerk producers" don't privide a link for a website, but offer a big amount of cash and thats how they fish their prey. My recomendation for any girl, or model who is seeking jobs, if they don't have a website where you can see their other work, ask for references, but above all be careful.

 

[marcusb]

I'm with Tommy on this one...

Full disclosure up front. Everyone knows what will happen in advance.

 

[rhiannon]

I also don't think that someone who totally hates being tickled would actually go for it. I mean, we all have been tickled at some point in our lives!

 

[TRU]

Please dont assume anything about tickleabuse and imply that I trick models because it isn't true. Some of the lees are friends or friends of friends, and other are models or people I meet on the street. EVERYONE MUST look at my website and watch the video samples. For one, so that they can tell me whether they are as ticklish as my girls in the samples and secondly so they know what they are getting themselves into exactly. I don't want anyone here at my place who isn't open minded and thinks tickling is for freaks and I certainly can't use someone who isn't ticklish. That's why my videos come out the best, I only will film people who I don't mind hanging out with in my home. Shoots are more like parties and not formal at all.

I have heard from other people and have been shown proof of atleast one producer who uses deceptive ways to get models, but I don't believe most producers of any fetish do this. I tell the girls exactly that they are going to have the shit tickled out of them and its ok to change your mind, this is why I will never do a nonconsentual video, for one it isn't possible to really produce one and no point in saying it is real. Would you want to be tricked into signing a model release for one thing and end up being in a video you knew nothing about?

You see many of my girls coming back again and again, why? Because they are told the truth about everything ahead of time, they are treated with respect, and every model can buy back their videos back at any time if they ever have a change of heart about being in a tickle video. To date, not a single model has brought back his/her video.

My apologies man, and I didn't really think about it like that. Also, thank you for the post, as it has brought more insight into the behind-the-scenes, if you will.

EVERYONE MUST look at my website and watch the video samples. For one, so that they can tell me whether they are as ticklish as my girls in the samples

 

[bowl101]

But a second camera would go in the hands of one of the models, especially brand new girls documenting their first tickling experience with thoughts and clips of her watching other girls getting tickled ahead of her. That would be interesting for sure.

Great ideas.

Anything documenting other experiences/angles is great.

Maybe even videotape them from literally the second they walk into your place to when they leave.

 

[solesonface]

I've also wondered about price points. I guess a free burger isn't good enough payment?

 

[rhiannon]

Definitely not! A friend of mine who produces videos has set prices. He pays from 90 - 220 Euro for a 3 hour shoot.

 

[solesonface]

Definitely not! A friend of mine who produces videos has set prices. He pays from 90 - 220 Euro for a 3 hour shoot.

Damn. I was hoping a value meal and a coupon, but I understand.

 

[Lord Doctor]

I dunno. I think the "not knowing what they're getting into" is oft times part of a script. Given that these days you've got to cover your back a hell of a lot with people suing for a stubbed toe (slight exaggeration). Not downplaying any of the vids - there's some good stuff around - but if I was a producer I'd make sure the models knew exactly what they were getting into.

 

[COOLCAT88]

It seems like a lot of the models that realtickling, tickle abuse, silvercherry and other companies hire, have no idea what they are getting themselves into? I mean, they think they are getting into some light hearted tickling, and its an easy way to make some money. Yet, they seem to never bother researching into the product, and they come into the shoot with a naive attitude about the whole thing. And a lot of times, they end up hating the experience and never come back? I know this is the case for maybe half of the videos I've ordered.

I think its funny too. I mean, a lot of these girls don't realize how ticklish they really are until they get strapped down and get tested. I personally think its awesome, but I also think they are naive.

How can anyone honestly say that models don't research what they are getting into? We are at the age where if you look on the internet, you'll find info on just about anything!

Anyway, i'm sure that for all these videos where the models have naive attitudes or whatnot, it's all acting.

 

[skelyrata]

sort of

How can anyone honestly say that models don't research what they are getting into? We are at the age where if you look on the internet, you'll find info on just about anything!

Anyway, i'm sure that for all these videos where the models have naive attitudes or whatnot, it's all acting.

Every time go to a doctor and I get a shot, even though I know what is coming, and I have had inyections before, it always hurt a bit, and I always say "ouch"! It doesn't matter how much I prepare myself for it.

I think the same applies for tickling and other aspect of life. Just because the model knows in advance what is going to happen, doesn't mean that she can predict how is going to be. Every doctor has a different pulse, and came make the experience of a shot very different. The same for tickling. There is always surprise.

true there is also always a degree of performing for the audience, but is like reality shows, even though is real, participants always add a degree of performing to make the show more interesting, and despite what they say, there is always some sort of script that guides them through the show.

 

[DownUnder]

This is a great thread. And Tommy's single post not only debunked a few myths, but also showed a few business truisms in my research about the industry.

There is a tacit assumption that fetish producers have to resort to "trick" tactics to entice models. Truth be told, I used to think that too. I used to think that the world of feet/tickling is so sleazy, why would anyone want to get into it voluntarily? There must either be a lot of money involved, or deception.

Then I realised: it's just another product. A product needs material and suppliers. And models are just a kind of supplier. A buyer would always want to find the right supplier, which makes it imperative for the producer to get the right model. Which makes what Tommy said about making his models watch sample videos make complete sense.