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Do they have a word to describe Avril's Singing?

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Avril must have learned her singing style from Alanis.The way she kind of uses some sort of "inflection" in pronouncing some words.Some kind of rolling of the tongue or something.Does she not also expand words at the end of a line alot? (ie. "way" becomes "wayeeaaeeaeeaayeh!!!!).......
It's kind of irritating!!!

Then again - I guess I'm old!!
.....I don't know..it's early Monday and I've just seen one of her videos on MuchMusic and I wanted to vent
 
All I know is that both of her albums have been superb.
 
Hm...

Great songwriter, annoying voice, cute girl, but IMHO, no one's been able to pull off that "angry young woman" thing since Fiona Apple.

XOXO
 
Angry Canadian girl?

Beautiful voice coming out of that t-i-n-y girl--don't care for the 'angry Canadian punk-girl' act though, which is clearly a publicity ploy on behalf of the recording label/management team, in My opinion. Hey, it obviously worked!

Have you guys ever seen Amy Poehler's impression of Avril on Saturday Night Live this past year? It's downright *hysterical*--she's done it a couple of times, in fact, I was hoping she'd 'do' her on the show when Avril was the musical guest this past Spring. Guess her managers didn't think it *that* funny!
 
Bleh, she's horrible, IMHO....I'll take Kylie Minouge's music over any other females anyday.
 
Gotta give her credit for one thing: she must give one hell of a hummer, considering her fast rise to the top:devil:

The Sean Man
 
I don't have to give her credit for a damn thing. She probably even fouled THAT up. 😛
 
Mephistopheles said:
The fact some people here like her makes me worried about the future

Lololol...to quote the snooty waiter from Ferris Beuller: "I weep for the future."

The Sean Man
 
Like I said, a dime a dozen.

You can literally pick someone at random, tidy them up, give them an image, and BAM you've got another one of her.

Real talent takes years to develop, and with age it becomes more refined. Those ladies that play their own instruments, write their own music, are all natural, and are themselves get my respect. Like the Corrs. They get my respect, and love, and admiration.

This Avril girl gets nothing. WHO is she? Where did she come from? What the hell is she about? Who is she trying to be? Who is her audiance? What the hell is her agenda?

Theres nothing special about this one. She just seems like a niave, ignorant little flake to me. Meh, says I! MEH! 😱 😛
 
Celtic_Emperor said:


Those ladies that play their own instruments, write their own music, are all natural, and are themselves get my respect. Like the Corrs. They get my respect, and love, and admiration.



.....You mean there ARE women singers who don't have to strip to their undwear to sell cds?:wow: 😛 (actually, I know one...well, one that's working her way up..one of my friends was on some site called e-crap.com (and no, ladies, you won't be able to tickle-torture me into giving you her e-mail address. 😛 😛 )...they have a short article on the site each month called "Ms E-crap.com"..she's in the August one.

Dammit, unfortunately she's taken ( that's only cause I didn't meet her before that lucky sonofa...😛 😛 )
 
My word for Avril - - POSER.
Not that I'M punk at all.
She really wanted to be a country singer, which explains the high belt range. But she has no color in her voice. It's tight and screechy, and all pushed through her obnoxious little nose. And she can't sing live. At all. She has the live stage presence of a stale poptart with no frosting. Her songs are bearable at best, writing-wise, though the lyrics are trite, and the chord progressions and melody-lines predictable. Ear candy. Sour ear candy. The undeniable epitome of crappy pop - not punk, not unique.
Amy Poehler, however, IS brilliant.
"I'm Avril Lavigne! I'm Mad! MEH!"

Mwah!

-Bell :cool2:
 
Beautiful voice coming out of that t-i-n-y girl--don't care for the 'angry Canadian punk-girl' act though, which is clearly a publicity ploy on behalf of the recording label/management team

Well, actually that wonderful voice is also clearly on behalf of a nice piece of software called "auto-tune" and not to mention a very good studio engineer.

Seriously, her live performance on Rove Live (an Australian variety show) last year was one of the funniest things I've ever seen! I've seen many better high school performances. Out of tune, no emotion, she stood completely still and no phrasing whatsoever.

So the word you'd probably be looking for would either be 'bad' or 'manufactured.'

As far as anything else about her career or her song writing skills go... I stay far enough away from pop as I can so I've heard little else from her apart from that live performance.
 
He-Man said:
.....You mean there ARE women singers who don't have to strip to their undwear to sell cds?:wow: 😛 (actually, I know one...well, one that's working her way up..one of my friends was on some site called e-crap.com (and no, ladies, you won't be able to tickle-torture me into giving you her e-mail address. 😛 😛 )...they have a short article on the site each month called "Ms E-crap.com"..she's in the August one.

Dammit, unfortunately she's taken ( that's only cause I didn't meet her before that lucky sonofa...😛 😛 )

Oh yes, theres plenty, they're just diamonds in the ruff, and you have to search to find them as most of them aren't american or live in america.

The Corrs for example are a family band that consist of three sisters and one brother originally from Dundalk Ireland. They were all musically gifted and started at a young age, and supported by both their parent who were also muscians. As children and young teens they used to have gigs in lounges, etc. So they were performing at a young age.

Andrea Corr is the youngest of her four siblings, and she is the lead singer, she plays the tin whistle (a form of flute) and she also the piano.

Caroline Corr is the second youngest, and she plays percussion and drums, as well as the bodran. She's also a back-up vocal for Andrea and she also plays the piano.

Sharon Corr is the eldest of the three sisters, and she plays the violin, and also provides back-up vocals for Andrea. She also plays the piano.

Jim Corr is the eldest, and he does some back-up vocals, but mostly he plays the guitar, the piano, the keyboard, and pretty much every other instrument that they ever use.

They also have two gentlemen that accompany them on tours and such and provide bass and such for Jim when he's on the guitar or on the keyboard. One of their last names is Duffy I think, I can't remember the other guy's name rightn now. But they are both good and a great contribution to the band.

Anyways, if you are still reading this, I mention the Corrs also because they are natural beauties. They don't have to act a certain way to look cute, pretty or even sexy. They just are. They don't need pounds of makeup, they dress very classy sometimes, wearing very beautiful dresses that accentuate their features perfectly. On the other hand, they sometimes wear almost casual clothing. They actually aren't very fancy, flashy, etc, but they do have a good fashion sense.

They aren't stuck up, they are completely original, they sing like angels, especially when they do duets, and they've mastered their respective instruments.

And its all a wonder to believe they've still got it in their now 30s. Andrea is in her early 30s now, Caroline is just a couple years behind that, Sharon is about in her mid to late 30s, and Jim is actually pushing 40 or is 40 something. But they all don't look a day over 20-21, I swear. And its no tricks, not gimmicks, no camera, touch-ups or sound optimizers, etc.

Its all real. They don't flaunt their bodies like *****s. Sure, the sisters don't have large breasts, natural or fake, but they don't need to have that to be attractive and desirable. They have great looking bodies anyway. Jim's a hunk too. And I'm saying this as a heterosexual man.

I'd vouch safe that even one member of the Corr family could kick most of these other so called female "artist's" ass in a singing competition.

See, the problem these days is they get these young folks who may have a bit of potential, but all they really do is exagerate it greatly, work their Hollywood magic, and expect public relations, record sales, etc. to valid them as a good talent when they fail in so many ways. Alot of these young ones aren't even cut out to be where they are. If it wasn't because of breast implants, slutty clothing, bump and grind, dance like idiot and expect that to be filler for talent, pounds of makeup, etc, etc, then when you take that all away, they are literally nothing.

If I can't respect them as people when all of this is taken away, how can I respect them as "artist". "Artist" is a soft term, designed to excuse lack of talent, musical skills, and even singing ability. What happened to singer? Or to musician? People that have neither of these talents are refered to as "artist" most of the time, with exceptions of course.

If you are willing to shake your ass in front of a camera, be very suggestive with your male dancers, and dress like a tart while doing so, nothing else has to matter, and you'll sell.

It's a shame people love this. You are what you eat? Well, you are what you listen to also and watch. Not that I'm smacking those that like the likes of Britney, Christina, Avril, etc, but clearly there is better out there, and surely these hacks aren't worth the expense.

I'd go so far as to say their looks and their on and off stage shenanigans are the only things keeping people listening to them. What more are these little girls than persons without identity? We don't know them. They are the products of Hollywood, and they come a dime a dozen.

When people get tired of Britney and the others, rest assured Hollywood has more where that came from. They have the ability to create a popstar overnight, and in that aspect, its sad, as we have nothing but lack-luster talent to look forward to in the near and possibly distant future.
 
When people get tired of Britney and the others, rest assured Hollywood has more where that came from. They have the ability to create a popstar overnight, and in that aspect, its sad, as we have nothing but lack-luster talent to look forward to in the near and possibly distant future.

Now now, creating a pop start overnight is a little difficult even for Hollywood. Thats why they've set up things like Idol and Popstars. That way, they've got at least a months worth of well rating T.V. and an almost sure fire No.1 Album at the end of it. At least with the Australian artist, it seems to be almost a miracle if the group or artist remains long enough to get a second song into the charts at all.

Don't get me wrong, the singers are decent... thats what the months of T.V. and auditioning is there to make sure of. But it seems that after the companies have made money out of them once (sometimes twice) they are pretty much dumped for the next generation.

So far Australia has fallen for it at least 4 times these last few years.
 
Dont get me going on this subject...........

......ok, you got me going. Its all a massive conspiracy (do I sound like micheal more?) these silly "Pop Tarts" who have been convinced by others and by themselves that they are major song writing talents. Most of them have a mysterious "co-writer" who never gets any publicity, never gets seen going to award ceremonies or opening nights, he is a fat middle aged white bloke with a beer gut.

The pop tart gets picked up by a record company who saw her in a Tammy Wynett tribute band. They decide she has a passable voice or has about three decent notes available. More importantly they notice she looks very cute and has big hooters.

Then they send her to see Mr beer gut who gets her to warble aimlessly for a few hours, every now and then he will say stuff like "oh did you mean this chord?" or "yes i think you were trying to tell me you wanted a circle of fourths type middle eight" she just sits there saying yes, as if she knows what the fuck he is talking about. Then a couple of days later, after Mr beer gut is through telling her what to do, they sign an agreement making them joint song writers on the fourthcoming album.

Now of course the young teenage market does not want to see or hear music being performed by some bloke who looks like their Grandaddy. They want to see young teenage lasses like themselves, but, heres the important bit, the young pop tart has to be seen as authentic, she has to been seen to be, and has to believe herself to be a great songwriting talent.

Mean while Mr beer gut is on a very nice little earner, and keeps well out of sight.
 
@ The Pianist- I agree, but I think it sure is a rather flim-flammy way of doing it. To think you could have the next star in a few months time because of some tv show.

All these girls are are flavors of the month...or year.. and so on. Their time will be up, and we'll see them bitching and whining later for it, scraping for music deals, making even more public appearance, and trying to regain what they never really had- respect and natural, genuine talent.
 
Yup. I know for a fact that JEWEL didn't write a good number of her biggest hits - - "Foolish Games" it one of them. The writers are paid off bigtime not to claim any credit. Don't even get me started on Jewel though. Bah!
Mwah!

-Bell :cool2:
 
Re: Dont get me going on this subject...........

red indian said:
......ok, you got me going. Its all a massive conspiracy (do I sound like micheal more?) these silly "Pop Tarts" who have been convinced by others and by themselves that they are major song writing talents. Most of them have a mysterious "co-writer" who never gets any publicity, never gets seen going to award ceremonies or opening nights, he is a fat middle aged white bloke with a beer gut.

The pop tart gets picked up by a record company who saw her in a Tammy Wynett tribute band. They decide she has a passable voice or has about three decent notes available. More importantly they notice she looks very cute and has big hooters.

Then they send her to see Mr beer gut who gets her to warble aimlessly for a few hours, every now and then he will say stuff like "oh did you mean this chord?" or "yes i think you were trying to tell me you wanted a circle of fourths type middle eight" she just sits there saying yes, as if she knows what the fuck he is talking about. Then a couple of days later, after Mr beer gut is through telling her what to do, they sign an agreement making them joint song writers on the fourthcoming album.

Now of course the young teenage market does not want to see or hear music being performed by some bloke who looks like their Grandaddy. They want to see young teenage lasses like themselves, but, heres the important bit, the young pop tart has to be seen as authentic, she has to been seen to be, and has to believe herself to be a great songwriting talent.

Mean while Mr beer gut is on a very nice little earner, and keeps well out of sight.


LOL! You're funny. ^__^
 
steph said:
death??? 😛
XOXO

No, that's mort. 'Merde' means, well...fecal matter 😛 Or, the word Quentin shouted over and over in Louis Malle's Au Revoir, Les Enfants ("merde! Merde! Merde!"), when he woke up from the wet dream and noticed the mess...
 
Whoops! I was trying to figure out what language that was! LOL!

And OMG, Jewel--puh-leeze girl! (All that money and she can't fix her teeth???) Yuck!

XOXO
 
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