does this really happen?

[rhiannon]

So Viper, have you yourself ever experienced getting aroused from something you hate?

 

[ViperGTS]

So Viper, have you yourself ever experienced getting aroused from something you hate?

One individual's personal experience or lack thereof does not validate any generalized fact or rule. With any rule there are exceptions, and whether the person who finds themselves able to be forcefully aroused while taking part in an activity they truly detest is the rule or the exception, the fact is that it can and does happen, which answers the OPs question.

 

[Grant]

Short answer: Yes. Some people I know get turned on by taking something they would otherwise say no to and I could quite see that myself. To do this ethically requires proper consent.

 

[Gadilici]

OK, mentally aroused, no. Physically, yes.

You can make a man erect by strangulation. Even if the man does not like having his oxygen cut off, and dying of suffocation, he will get erect.

They've done studies where women were mentally/emotionally turned off or even revolted by things (they were shown porn), and they did all the electrical tests to see if their brains lit up with the stimulation. The women showed no arousal in the brain. Yet, their bodies had gotten aroused. Hard nipples, ever moistening vaginas, etc. Physiologically, they were showing arousal.

I have heard of rape victims who have gotten wet, etc, even tho they wanted no part of what was happening. The body does work independently of will sometimes. I've heard of that being used by defense lawyers. Fortunately, with decreasing success. It could well be where "Her body said yes" comes from.

If a woman is tied totally against her will, being violated against her will, and her violator strokes and plays with her vagina, she will get wet. Physical arousal. Regardless of how she may hate it. Just like a raped man being stroked to erection. Or a prostate exam causing one.

And pain can do this sometimes to some people. There is not much that applies to every human being. I doubt this would. But MANY are capable of this experience. Doesn't mean they'll be happy when they remember it. But it can happen. If pain or injury happens to the thighs or near areas to the genitals, the blood flowing into the area can cause physical arousal.

I've gotten hard lifting weights. Not cause I like it (I don't), but the exertion, particularly during leg exercises, makes more blood go that way, and I get erect. Which is reeeely bad.

Now, you can't make someone mentally/emotionally enjoy something they hate unless you re-program them. Sorta like the Manchurian Candidate. Or if they want to change that for whatever reason, you can do it thru exercises, hynosis, NLP, whatever.

But you cannot physically do something the other person hates, and have them ENJOY it, unless they are a masochist. But it does not mean their body will not respond as if they are aroused. Body and mind don't always synch up.

Christopher

 

[rhiannon]

If a woman is tied totally against her will, being violated against her will, and her violator strokes and plays with her vagina, she will get wet. Physical arousal. Regardless of how she may hate it. Just like a raped man being stroked to erection. Or a prostate exam causing one.

Back to the beginning again....that would mean she has something done to her that she actually normally likes! If he was inserting a hot iron in her vagina, she will not suddenly be turned on by it!

The physical sensation is NOT HATED!

One individual's personal experience or lack thereof does not validate any generalized fact or rule. With any rule there are exceptions, and whether the person who finds themselves able to be forcefully aroused while taking part in an activity they truly detest is the rule or the exception, the fact is that it can and does happen, which answers the OPs question.

I'd like to see examples!

 

[ViperGTS]

Five seconds spent searching Google.

 

[rhiannon]

Wrong example again. Being aroused during rape doesn't count, because it's actually sex going on, which USUALLY causes arousal! It has to be something that doesn't cause arousal at all, even if it's with your significant other!

 

[ViperGTS]

Wrong example again. Being aroused during rape doesn't count, because it's actually sex going on, which USUALLY causes arousal! It has to be something that doesn't cause arousal at all, even if it's with your significant other!

Wait. Rape "doesn't count" because it'd be a pleasurable thing for the person if it weren't for the fact that it's not a pleasurable thing?



Tickling is a physical interaction. A percentage of the human race can and do find any kind of physical touch to be sexually arousing in a bodily sense regardless of whether or not it is wanted or liked.

if someone really hates being tickled, genuinely hates it, could they still be turned on? "s/he hates it but her/his body loves it"?

The answer to the OP's question is yes. Period.

If you want examples and proof, go fucking google it yourself instead of just arguing an opinionated point based on personal opinions and baseless assumptions.

 

[rhiannon]

Wait. Rape "doesn't count" because it'd be a pleasurable thing for the person if it weren't for the fact that it's not a pleasurable thing?

Wrong! It would be a pleasurable thing for the person if it was done to them by somebody else!

Tickling is a physical interaction. A percentage of the human race can and do find any kind of physical touch to be sexually arousing in a bodily sense regardless of whether or not it is wanted or liked.

And that ís what I doubt! The presumption of this thread is that the tickling is hated by the person, and someone who gets aroused by a feeling that they hate is a masochist, period! If people hate a sensation, that sensation cannot cause arousal unless they are masochists!

But I guess you don't understand what I am trying to say!

 

[ViperGTS]

Wrong! It would be a pleasurable thing for the person if it was done to them by somebody else!



And that ís what I doubt! The presumption of this thread is that the tickling is hated by the person, and someone who gets aroused by a feeling that they hate is a masochist, period! If people hate a sensation, that sensation cannot cause arousal unless they are masochists!

But I guess you don't understand what I am trying to say!

So let me get this straight. According to your repeated statements, what you are saying is that it is not at all possible for any human being on the face of the planet to experience an involuntary physical reaction of arousal as a natural, albeit unwanted, response to an otherwise non-sexual stimulus?

Are you really that self-absorbed? To think that your personal opinion and experience is the rule of thumb for the entire human race, in spite of the actual facts that have been brought to light in this thread that prove otherwise?

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Ok, now my 2 cents again. Rape really is no pleasure (I cantell ya) and there's nothing arousing with it. It's juz a fucken pain and that's it. And I think with ticking it's the ame when a person hates it. Then the person only feels uncomfortable or even pain and that CAN'T be arousing. Sorry to disappoint ya.

(Oh and Rhiannon, even a masochist likes what is done to jim or her, even if it's pain, but that's a pain he/she wants.)

 

[Raytheon]

I think it would be purely down to the situation the person who hates being tickled was in. I used to know a girl who would actually punch you if you went anywhere near her feet and it had cost her boyfriends in the past. One nights drinking she put her feet in my lap and told me to tickle her. So i did, and she sat there rolling around giggling and laughing and then pushed me off. Then she straddled me and said watching me getting turned on tickling her, in turn, turned her on.
My girlfriend at the moment hates tickling but she says when she has me tied to the bed and she knows shes about to put me through tickle hell and gets that power feeling over me its a huge turn on for her...lol

 

[rhiannon]

So let me get this straight. According to your repeated statements, what you are saying is that it is not at all possible for any human being on the face of the planet to experience an involuntary physical reaction of arousal as a natural, albeit unwanted, response to an otherwise non-sexual stimulus?

Are you really that self-absorbed? To think that your personal opinion and experience is the rule of thumb for the entire human race, in spite of the actual facts that have been brought to light in this thread that prove otherwise?

The facts you have brought to light in this threat are obviously not otherwise non-sexual! You have been talking about rape, the links have been about rape, and that is a sexual stimulus! A non-sexual stimulus would be...I don't know...being spit in the face! Getting your balls kicked (if you are NOT into ballbusting!).

. Rape really is no pleasure (I cantell ya) and there's nothing arousing with it.

I have to be with Viper on this one, there are actually people who do feel sexually aroused during the rape, but that doesn't mean they are mentally enjoying it. Most of the time it makes it even worse!

Oh and Rhiannon, even a masochist likes what is done to jim or her, even if it's pain, but that's a pain he/she wants

Can be, but not always. Some masochists don't enjoy the pain itself, but that they are being obedient to their top or actually that they do feel uncomfortable.

 

[Amanda Cortez]

I have to be with Viper on this one, there are actually people who do feel sexually aroused during the rape, but that doesn't mean they are mentally enjoying it. Most of the time it makes it even worse!

As I said, it hasn't been arrousing and I don't wish that to anybody

 

[rhiannon]

As I said, it hasn't been arrousing and I don't wish that to anybody

Not for you. For others, it can be. How else would it be possible for a woman to rape a man? Plus, the pure physical reaction doesn't mean the brain recognizes it as lust. It's a most disturbing experience for the people who come across this phenomenon.

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Anyway, but I stil think the whole thing is sick. I'm out of this discussion.

 

[rhiannon]

Personally I wonder why anybody would want to know something like if this would actually be possible!

 

[Amanda Cortez]

Yeah ..I also don't see any sense in it. It's weird, sick and disgusting. As I said earlier I would castrate the person who does that to me.