Fan Asks To Tickle Feet Of Female DJ

[mustang]

From what I read, nobody cares about the guy who won the contest and asked to trade the dinner date for a foot tickling session. Lord Phineas poo-pooed the idea that there are people who like to tickle feet, but are not sexually aroused by it. Case in point...there is a new couple who do do tickling videos on Youtube. They are becoming really popular. In at least a couple of the videos the guy begins with a disclaimer that says to them tickling is not meant to be sexual and is only something that they find fun to do. It is a polite way of saying, 'If you are a perv, go away, we don't do these videos for you'. No one considered that the contest winner might fall into this category. That might explain why he was so up front about it. It may well have been harmless fun to him. We will never know. Most of the concern was in regard to the DJ who found out through the fans' email that foot tickling was sexual to some folks. She expressed surprise to hear that simply because it was new information to her. She was young and hadn't encountered a foot man to that point in her life. She wasn't sobbing, hysterical, and emotionally traumatized for life, but to read some of the posts you would think so. She didn't seem to be freaked out by one of her co-workers who confessed to her that he too had a foot fetish. She was just getting her experiential cherry popped...call it an epiphany of sorts. She and her co-workers probably went out for drinks later and had a big laugh about the whole affair and she probably learned more from her co-worker who had the fetish. But, all kinds of imaginary boogums were superimposed on this harmless situation that you would have thought that foot rape was about to occur. My whole point is that I was flabbergasted by all of the nuanced nit-picking, moralizing, blame for this and that by TMF-ers themselves. I don't think that most church folks judge so harshly. I saw the situation as a potential teaching moment for someone who was just getting their feet wet (pun intended) in regard to the foot world. I mean how can we hope that our fetish becomes more acceptable and mainstreamed if the straights aren't informed that foot fetishism is quite common. In fact, in the early 70's, I believe 1972, the American Psychiatric Association removed foot fetishism from being a deviancy, because it is statistically too common to be classifies as such. Anyway, I informed the DJ that the fetish was quite common and that she should check out Howard Stern for confirmation. If we don't say things to normalize our fetish who will? A couple of folks chastened me for emailing that saying that it was not wise or something to that affect. WTF!! So, to some on this forum it is an errror to state truthful facts about our fetish in order make it more acceptable! What is wrong with this picture? That is one reason why I said that the hyper-moralism, the hair-splitting, and the blame game could be a form of projection. Another way of saying the same thing is that we are always guilty of that which we condemn in others. That may take a little bit of reflection. But, much of the convoluted bullshit that was spewed from the typing fingers of the respondents could well be tied in with the fact that some people haven't come to peace with this fetish and they manifest this by all the drivel that made a mountain out of this molehill. Actually, I have witnessed this type of behavior before on this forum in regard to other posts...especially the moralizing. Sometimes there seems to be an attitude that says if you don't see things my way and if you don't follow my protocol in regard to tickling, then you are some sort of fucked up person. I'd love to hear a follow-up from the DJ. It would be cool if by this point in her life she had a boyfriend who loved to tickle her feet and the thing that helped her to accepting this was all the things that she learned about this fetish when this whole thing came up to begin with. Think about it. Most of us have tickled the feet of a lot of straight girls. For each one of them there was a time when they had never heard of this fetish and at first it may have seemed weird to them. But with education and experience they grew to accept it. I'll bet that the learning curve for each girl who eventually winds up with a foot guy is very similar. Surprise or maybe even shock when she first hears about it. Then she meets some guy who has the fetish and she sees that he is not some deranged hunchback from a Frankenstein movie, and grows to accept it. That has been my experience all my life and I have dated and married only straight women who grew to enjoy my fetish or at least enjoyed getting me off in regard to it. Moral of this story...lighten up and get over your self-righteousness moralizing and your over-active imaginations about all the supposed psychic harm that might be inflicted upon the girls whose feet are tickled. I mean we are only talking about tickling feet. And, I never felt the least bit guilty when I was being aroused when tickling a girl's feet when she wasn't aware of it. That seems to be a big moral problem with some. Maybe I should hire a lawyer to write up a disclaimer of some sort that explains if I tickle her feet I might get aroused by it. That way the tickling can be done with full disclosure, all squeaky clean and moral and no one is getting any furtive ya-yas. That one is a laugh and a mystery coming from fellow foot/tickling fetishists...Foul! Foul! You got an illicit sexual thrill by tickling the feet of someone who didn't know that you were getting this thrill. Gnash your teeth and repent you unclean foot rapist!

 

[april]

My two cents on the commenters. There are a particular type or "like minded" type of men on here that seriousley sexually objectify women and refuse to listen to any reason. It asstounds me that these commenters completely set asside logic. Even if every last woman on here point blank tells them that not only are they terribly mistaken, it also makes them uncomfortable, they simply dont care. Boys...I hope you stocked up on kleenex and lotion because your hand will continue to be your best friend

 

[rhiannon]

No one considered that the contest winner might fall into this category. That might explain why he was so up front about it. It may well have been harmless fun to him. We will never know.

But it is very likely that it wasn't just harmless fun to him - for the very reason that Phineas already pointed out. Why would a guy who just likes tickling as harmless fun ask for it instead of a dinner date that would have taken way longer and would mean a lot more contact with the DJ? Wouldn't that be more fun to anybody who considers tickling just as "harmless fun"?

I mean, if I win a dinner with George Clooney, why would I trade that kind of quality time for ten minutes of tickling his feet if that ten minutes tickling weren't a fetish of mine, therefore meaning a loooot more than two hours of dinner conversation?

Oh, and by the way: paragraphs really encourage people to read a long text like you just wrote!

 

[Phineas]

Maybe what some people in this thread view as "creepy" I just view as pragmatic.

You view it as pragmatic. The woman, however, stands a pretty good chance of considering it creepy - and since it's her body you feel like playing with, ultimately it's her interpretation that matters, not yours. If what you're doing is working for you, more power to you. But I suspect that it's not.

And mustang - I'm not going to re-hash myself yet again in response to that rambling wall of text, especially if you're going to be snarky and resort to name-calling. Do I know for sure that you're wrong? About the projection and guilt bullshit, yes. I do. About the winner not having a foot fetish? You're right, he might not - but based on the behavior I've witnessed here over the years, chances are extremely high that he does. Your YouTube couple are the exception that proves the rule, and you'll also note that they're a couple. IE, two people intimate with each other engaging in an intimate act for fun. Whether or not they're getting off on it, it's still a more intimate act than, say, shaking someone's hand. And as y'all like to ignore despite women constantly telling you otherwise, jumping from "hello" to "can I touch you" with nothing in between is a turn-off.

This is why I hate these kinds of discussions - because sarcastic idiots like to reduce the reasonable viewpoint of "treat her like a human being" to "don't try to touch any woman anywhere anytime ever without a signed notarized contract in triplicate", or rant about how everyone is "demonizing" people. Read the thread again. You'll note that most of the discussion has focused around the landslide of creepy idiots who deluged the DJ after the fact, not the winner himself. You'll also note that very few people assumed the request itself was some horrible slight against humanity, but that it was probably inappropriate to ask. Others disagree. You'll also note my original thoughts on the subject were that the winner probably wasn't being unreasonable in asking. Read that again, because it's pretty obvious you have a reading comprehension problem. I sided with the winner.

Is it our responsibility to educate people about our fetish? Sure. Here's the thing though (and this is coming from someone who, despite your mad assertions, came fully to grips with his fetish years ago and has nothing but fun with it) - you start small. If you're trying to ease a vanilla into being comfortable with your tickling fetish you don't immediately bust out the X-frame, baby oil, and rotary belt-sander feather device the second she says "maybe". And, in that context (there's that word again!), a dozen people stampeding a woman on the fence about it all is overkill.

You'll also note nobody said the DJ was horribly traumatized or freaked out about it, so stop with the rhetorical nonsense about "foot rape". Nobody's gone down that path but you, skippy, so stop trying to derail the discussion.

Finally, the only people who ever call me a condescending know-it-all are people who can't argue against my points. You're not being a know-it-all if you're right. It's not my problem if most of the people here are socially retarded. The ones who aren't tend to send me private messages telling me how bang-on my posts are. Most of them are women. Think about it.

 

[Mane'o]

Rarely have so many said so much about so little. From the bare facts provided by the OP my simple mind is not as nimble as so many others to glean so much about motives and desires and what the DJ and the prize winner were actually thinking and considering. On the other hand, like the old ink blot tests, it may be that the really interesting stuff is not what little we know about that long forgotten DJ and the momentary winner of a dinner he gave up, but what others are reading into those sparse data points. And from there the discussion takes off leaving DJ and would-be dinner guest far in the distance. Gotta love this forum.

 

[mustang]

Ah! Mane'o...thanks for a reasoned, balanced, and sane response. I though that I would like you. You said much of what I was trying to say except in a much more succint way. I should have said something like this entire series of posts is much do-do about absolutely nothing and left it at that. Like you said so eloquently, most of the tripe that was posted was superimposed, imaginary, mindless froth from the mouth. I still say that Phineas is a pontificating, know-it-all blowhard, but he is apparently not bright enough to see that his last post is a testimony to that fact. But, I guess that I should take the high road and apologize to Phineas. Phineas, I am deeply sorry that you are a pontificating, know-it-all blowhard. That has to be a heavy burden to bear. By the way, send me the names of your co-deceived female cheerleaders so that I can be sure to avoid them. I have a feeling that they are the pain-in-the ass moralizers that I was referring to. No offense intended...just the observations of an unbiased observer.

 

[mustang]

April, in real life I am a great admirer of women. Generally speaking women are heroes of mine. I do not intend to sexually objectivize them. I admit to being blunt and lacking in the romantic graces. I speak frankly about my sex life/fetish life in regard to women and I realize that this might be offensive to some women on this forum, but I direct my sexual comments to the males...no way to filter the women out. I grew up rough and tumble, just a cut above a biker, and am not sqeamish in the least when it comes to sexual discussions. Again, I don't mean to be rude and crude, but I realize that the feminine mind may take exception to some of the ways that I address sexuality. But, rest assured in my own perhaps primitive way, I hold women in high esteem. All of my life they have functioned as saviors to me. Without them I would either be in the gutter, in prison, or dead.

 

[Oddjob0226]

Everyone was using everyone in this situation. And originally that was fine.

If you stop and think about it, yes, the winner wanted to tickler her feet, possibly using that experience for his own nefarious interests. But he had the good taste to not bring them up. So if we can assume that he wanted to do this purely - and quietly - for sexual reasons (not sure how that’s wrong if you look at all the ‘mainstream’ clips and images around here), that's fine, but can’t we also assume that when Guy Laliberte (founder of Cirque du Solei) said he wanted to tickle the astronauts during his visit to the International Space Station that he also wanted to do that for his own secret jollies? Any Disney Channel tickling is automatically aimed pedophiles, the new favorite bad guys?

Regarding our own selfish interests….. we all catch a break in life now and then, and we will give a break to others from time to time for the same reasons. The contest winner wanted to "use" the DJ for tickling play (and took a risk at putting himself out there publically by stating his interest…. via a question, I’ll add, not a demand or expectation). The radio station was "using" the public via this contest to get ratings, ‘using’ the DJ employee as the bait. The station and the DJ were even willing to go with the tickling suggestion, using the winner to garner attention to their company. Great publicity/all consentual = no problem. Everyone involved had their own self-interest. Everyone was using and willing to be used.

The issue took a broader turn when - just like anything dealing with OJ Simpson, Trayvon Martin, “Balloon Boy”, etc. – a bunch of interlopers who had NOTHING at all to do personally with the thing at hand, got involved. Then, and only then, did things get weird (or, too weird). The winner’s request was odd but as it turned out not offensive. It was when all the other unsolicited parties started chiming in that things got ugly. It was they, not the original contest winning requestor, who created the wrong.