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Feel the powwwweerrrrr... of the Ultimate Warrioooooooorrrr!!!!! *SNORT*

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Feeling bored recently, I decided to write an online review about the DVD The Self-Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior. Thought I'd share with y'all that are wrestling enthusiasts. 🙂


I have mixed feelings about the content of this DVD. Growing up as a young teenager in the early 90’s, the Warrior was my favourite wrestler. The music, the frenetic and almost spastic ring entrance, the Incredible Hulk-a-like style inside the ring… Coming some years after his fall from grace and seeing he had a web-site (www.ultimatewarrior.com) I eagerly logged on to see what he was doing these days. The impression I got was that the man was a complete lunatic who had been possessed by his character like Linda Blair was possessed by the Devil in The Exorcist. His posts on his web-site are like an ever so slightly toned down version of his gibberings on promo slots during his wrestling days. One gets the impression that the man got bored of real life so made himself believe he was his character and wrapped himself up in a fairy story where he was the central (and only) starring figure. He could certainly have had a better claim to the “Narcissist” gimmick Lex Luger ran during the early part of 1993.

This is the impression we get from his contemporaries who are interviewed on the DVD too. Jim Ross, Ted Dibiase, Bobby Heenan, Vince McMahon, Jerry Lawler… All line up to castigate the Warrior and tell stories of how stiff his performances were, how little technical skill he had, what a self-centred egomaniac he was, and how selfish and ignorant he could be. I would have been horrified and outraged at this character assassination and instantly suspected another McMahon speciality screw job (a’ la Bret Hart) if it wasn’t for the fact that this was the exact same impression I’d gotten from the man’s own disjointed, ramblings on his web-site. I don’t doubt for a second that most, if not all, of these highly entertaining anecdotes are true. Having said that, I am left with no doubt that Vince McMahon is also an unprincipled liar and an opportunistic screw-job artist. The way he talks about the faults of others breaks the known bounds of hypocrisy, considering he is capable of being the most dishonest, conniving and unprofessional man in the industry. Him criticising the Warrior’s ethos is like a skunk complaining that a dog stinks. McMahon has a brilliant brain for wrestling and its various angles, but as a human being he is worth nothing. Doesn’t detract from the fact that he’s probably telling the truth about the Warrior here however.

Having said this, the Warrior is still my favourite wrestler of all time and this DVD not only gives you the career commentary, but five of his most memorable matches as an extra: his WWF debut against a “jobber”; his under 60 second IC title win against the Honky Tonk Man at Summerslam 88; his WWF title win against Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 6; the WWF title defence against Rick Rude at Summerslam 90, and the thunderous career ending match against Randy Savage at Wrestlemania 7. (The last one being my all time favourite Warrior match and not containing the cuts and rewinds the WM 7 VHS video had.) The wrestling content of this DVD is great, especially for us nostalgia lovers and especially for actual fans of the Warrior. Say what you like about the man (and I obviously have done) but the wrestler was great fun and captivating to watch. The interview content is also captivating and fun. The newer and younger guys (Christian and Chris Jericho – to name two off the top of my head) are all enthusiastic about the Warrior and recall his days with great enthusiasm (they never had to work with him mind you). Seeing Christian’s impression of a classic Warrior promo is side-splitting.

If you’re a fan of wrestling back in the early 90’s, then go ahead and get this, you won’t regret it. If you were a fan of the Warrior himself, then this DVD is probably worth sacrificing one of your internal organs for.
 
As they say, history is written by the victors.

I, too, loved the Warrior. Maybe he WAS a jerk, but you can't deny that when his music hit, you got fired up.

The dvd? A complete, organized burial and attack of Warrior. And there could have been a few more matches on there, in my opinion.
 
I loooooooooooove the Warrior! He rocked! I think he was a bit crazy (and the DVD made him seem more crazy!) I thought the DVD was cool but it made me feel bad fo the Warrior!
 
When I was like 9 years old, I honestly thought the Warrior was the greatest wrestler ever. Boy was I wrong. It's sort of like the people who actually thought Mike Tyson was a good boxer.
 
Best warrior story ever when bobby heenan was givin a shoot interview and he was discussing andre and how andre could do what he wanted. Warrior came at him and clotheslined him really hard, and did it again the next night when he wasnt supposed to. So next time warrior came at him, andre put his fist out and warrior ran full speed into andres fist and fell out of the ring

Andre then leaned to heenan and said "i think he's learning"
 
cool review man.....

these guys (warrior,hogan,hitman,savage) were my hero`s when i was a little kid.i`ve been wanting to pick up any of these DVDs about them.

it will be done tomorrow after reading the review.....
 
BigJim said:
If you’re a fan of wrestling back in the early 90’s, then go ahead and get this, you won’t regret it. If you were a fan of the Warrior himself, then this DVD is probably worth sacrificing one of your internal organs for.[/i]

Eh, defining what of the 80-90s wrestling you enjoy will bias you on this dvd. Yes i was a hulkamaniac, even wrote him aget well card when earthquake crushed him on the brother love show and he "Wrote me back" but as i grew older i learned of the lack of talent of hogan and most of the mainstream stars. I have to say tho, i saw a semi recent match between Hogan and great muta(before nwo but id say either early wcw or late wwf) and i was terrified that hogan did a technical move on muta and did a armbar then rolled him over with a leg takedown.

For fans of those times, its hard now since rf video went out of business but they are prob on ebay, a plethora of vids and best of compliations of rick rude, ricky steamboat and many others Those two had legendary matches
 
I enjoyed the Ultimate Warrior's matches and his schtick back in the "WWF" days. But seems in the last year or so, the guy has either been losing his mind or I'm reading way too many rumors. Two examples: that he actually had his name officially changed to "Warrior". The other, he made anti-gay comments during a speech at Yale.(Yale????)



Drew
 
If you would like to see just how great he is, go to his website where there is entry upon entry of how "everyone" has lied about him...

I liked him more when he wrestled with the Von Erichs in TX, but I was never a fan. Interesting story, he was actually supposed to be Big Van Vader for New Japan. But Vince signed him first and made him the Ultimate Warrior. So New Japan signed Leon White, who would go on to become Big Van Vader, then Vader when New Japan made WCW drop the "Big Van" and mask that released the smoke that he wore (they claimed it was copyright infringement).
 
Warrior was a great entertainer, but he was also a MAJOR flake. He got caught in his own 'warrior-ness', and went off the deep end. Remember his goofy promos, where no one could figure out what the hell he was saying? Well, he ALWAYS talks like that....again, check out his website, and proceed to scratch your head.

In any case, Warrior vs. Hogan at Wrestlemania 6 is one of my all time faves.
 
LovesHeels said:
Yeah, Bobby Heenan really ripped the guy a new one on that special.

And Hulk Hogan was a prick, too.

Hogan is Vince McMahon's puppet. He refuses to let any new, younger guys have the spotlight, and I don't know if he ever wrestles anymore but he really, really, really needs to hang it up.


Did anyone else think Bobby Heenan looked like someone recovering from a really evil bout of cancer or something? I've never seen someone so diminished in size. His voice sounded totally different too.

Hulk and Vince were both fucking hypocrites. They may have had some true points in what they were saying, but I was waiting for the phone to ring and someone off camera to say,
"Mr. Pot, there's a Mr. Kettle on the line for you."
 
The Sean Man said:
Warrior was a great entertainer, but he was also a MAJOR flake. He got caught in his own 'warrior-ness', and went off the deep end. Remember his goofy promos, where no one could figure out what the hell he was saying? Well, he ALWAYS talks like that....again, check out his website, and proceed to scratch your head.

Yeah, I agree totally Sean. Whacked out promos aren't a total DQ from being a great (Jimmy Snuka anyone?), but the guy has totally disappeared up his own arse. He actually believes he is the character he wrestled as.

The Sean Man said:
In any case, Warrior vs. Hogan at Wrestlemania 6 is one of my all time faves.

It was certainly a landmark moment, even if it wasn't the best match of all time.



Question: Would Vince have done such a hatchet job on Hellwig if he'd agreed to participate in the DVD?
 
Strider said:
When I was like 9 years old, I honestly thought the Warrior was the greatest wrestler ever. Boy was I wrong. It's sort of like the people who actually thought Mike Tyson was a good boxer.

Hellwig was a great wrestler (for those of us who appreciated his style anyway) and Tyson was in my opinion the second greatest heavyweight of all time after Ali, before he threw his life down the toilet and then shit on top of it for good measure. They were both great. That they eventually fucked up everything in their professional lives and are both total wankers is besides the point.
 
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Goodieluver said:
For fans of those times, its hard now since rf video went out of business but they are prob on ebay, a plethora of vids and best of compliations of rick rude, ricky steamboat and many others Those two had legendary matches


Vince now owns the marketing rights to all ECW, old WWF and WCW matches and events. They're selling them on amazon in double compilations. Just go there, click on "DVD" and then enter the event or the wrestler in the search field and up they'll come.

I'm going to get Bret Hart's pack next.
 
TklDuo-Drew said:
I enjoyed the Ultimate Warrior's matches and his schtick back in the "WWF" days. But seems in the last year or so, the guy has either been losing his mind or I'm reading way too many rumors. Two examples: that he actually had his name officially changed to "Warrior". The other, he made anti-gay comments during a speech at Yale.(Yale????)



Drew

He changed his legal name to "Warrior" back in 1994. Tosser.

Dunno about the anti-gay comments, but it wouldn't surprise me. He's so "conservative" he makes Dubya look like a commie. One of his pieces of advice for his "little Warriors" was to go to a peace demo pretending to be a fellow demonstrator, exchange a high-five with someone and then punch them straight in the face and ask them if they thought they could solve this without violence.

He'd have been right at home at Yale.
 
BigJim said:
Did anyone else think Bobby Heenan looked like someone recovering from a really evil bout of cancer or something? I've never seen someone so diminished in size. His voice sounded totally different too.

Hulk and Vince were both fucking hypocrites. They may have had some true points in what they were saying, but I was waiting for the phone to ring and someone off camera to say,
"Mr. Pot, there's a Mr. Kettle on the line for you."


Bobby Heenan had, I believe, cancer of the tongue or mouth. And actually had part of his tongue removed. Which explains the voice change. He explained this on the old WWE show "Confidential". I remember him saying he hadn't ate solid food in months.


Drew
 
TklDuo-Drew said:
Bobby Heenan had, I believe, cancer of the tongue or mouth. And actually had part of his tongue removed. Which explains the voice change. He explained this on the old WWE show "Confidential". I remember him saying he hadn't ate solid food in months.


Drew

It would explain both the voice change and the appearance change.
 
BigJim said:
Did anyone else think Bobby Heenan looked like someone recovering from a really evil bout of cancer or something? I've never seen someone so diminished in size. His voice sounded totally different too.

Hulk and Vince were both fucking hypocrites. They may have had some true points in what they were saying, but I was waiting for the phone to ring and someone off camera to say,
"Mr. Pot, there's a Mr. Kettle on the line for you."


Bobby heenan had some form of throat or mouth cancer about 4 years ago, before his books came out, it was either on his throat or his vocal chords

Btw i rate heenans books up there with the arn anderson book in greatness. Sadly they are so drowned by the garbage that foley and the rock and other wrestlers have put out
 
BigJim said:
Vince now owns the marketing rights to all ECW, old WWF and WCW matches and events. They're selling them on amazon in double compilations. Just go there, click on "DVD" and then enter the event or the wrestler in the search field and up they'll come.

I'm going to get Bret Hart's pack next.

I refuse to buy anythin related to mcmahon, which is a mortal wound to me because of the ecw issue. Whats more devestating is they re edited all the ecw matches they are re-releasin, im pretty sure its not even joey styles' origional match callin but him dubbin his own voice, which is heard by lack of enthusiasm as you would call a match being there. Also, they have dubbed over all of the intro music, and one of the things that i loved other than the promos and matches in ecw was the music, one of the first times i heard pantera and dope

Also with rf, u got stuff the companies didnt even really have. On the best of tapes, youd have house show matches, you'd have matches from japan and europe and especially for ecw, you had ecw fan cam, which was run directly thru rf video
 
Goodieluver said:
Bobby heenan had some form of throat or mouth cancer about 4 years ago, before his books came out, it was either on his throat or his vocal chords

Btw i rate heenans books up there with the arn anderson book in greatness. Sadly they are so drowned by the garbage that foley and the rock and other wrestlers have put out

Rock and Kurt Angle's books were so obviously written by ghost authors that I threw them away. Mick Foley's on the other hand I found entertaining, candid and above all... honest.
 
The impression I get of Hogan is that he's a fucking cry-baby with an ego larger than the late Yokozuna's arse.
 
BigJim said:
The impression I get of Hogan is that he's a fucking cry-baby with an ego larger than the late Yokozuna's arse.

Indeed. And even worse, Hogan distorts, embellishes, and downright lies about most of the events in wrestling for the past 25 years. The guy is so deluded by his own greatness.
 
I liked the guy when I was a kid...


I must say though Jim, when I read the thread title, I LOL'd. =P
 
Gremio said:
I liked the guy when I was a kid...


I must say though Jim, when I read the thread title, I LOL'd. =P


Ah, but you've never heard me do my imression over the web cam's mic. 😀 I did it for Laz and Mimi and Laz's only comment was that he was surprised the warrior had any nose left to snort through. :blaugh:
 
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