Girl Next Door vs. Naked Skanks

[Tidas]

Generally the type of girl that is willing to be naked on video is automatically much more of a skank than a cute, clothed girl who needs a few extra bucks or just had nothing better to do that day than make a tickle vid...Personally I much prefer the cutie pie in the tank top and shorts or jeans or whatever...nude tickling just doesn't do it for me. (unless it's with my Ellie )

 

[tulipangel]

I dig naked chicks or naked guys! How about neked girls/guys next door? That's hot!

 

[ShadowTklr]

Automatically?????????????????????

Generally the type of girl that is willing to be naked on video is automatically much more of a skank than a cute, clothed girl who needs a few extra bucks or just had nothing better to do that day than make a tickle vid

Automatic condemnation. Hmmmm.
I'm still confused about this "skank" title being used to describe women who are "willing to be naked on video." When I use the word Skank, it usually implies someone who is a low-life, usually dirty, unkempt, and uncaring about their own hygiene. Has the word changed that much in only 10 years? What the hell is a Skank these days?

If one can be a skank simply by being willing to pose nude for video, then...well...holy shit, that's just the pitch-black pot calling the kettle a skank, no? 😕

 

[drew70]

To me, it's kind of silly to argue about a term of slang. It's use and meaning will change from one year to the next and from one person to the next. If these guys think of women who pose naked as skanks, who are we to say they are wrong for it? I don't agree with it, but I'm glad these guys feel free to express an unpopular opinion dispite the harrassment from the opinion police.

 

[isabeau]

you know.. the girl next door does on occasion get naked..does that make her a skank?

 

[Helena]

I think that the videos that feature women who are completely and helplessly tied are my favorite, but I like naked and clothed models just about equally. There are moments when I just want to watch all out naked tickling, and I am so glad that there are video companies that cater to my needs. I also have moments when I like the models to have some clothes on, and I am glad that there are video companies who cater to my need for that as well. I like variety. It keeps life interesting.

 

[jim66e]

Just to shed some light on the whole skank meaning issue, here is one of the definitions from dictionary.com

One who is digustingly foul or filthy and often considered sexually promiscuous. Used especially of a woman or girl.

So I presume that is what the OP was using when he used the term skank, esp the sexually promiscuous part. People can agree or disagree on whether being filmed naked counts as being sexual promiscuous.

Personally, since tickling isn't a sexual thing for me I like the girl next door approach. But I know my views are in a the minority here.

 

[method11236]

Good posts.

I, like Jim, believe that in order to have a constructive discussion, one must define the terms in question. I do believe that I misrepresented my definition of 'skank' in my initial post. Not every girl who appears naked in a video is a skank. However, certain video companies seem to hire girls who I see as generally unsavory and/or foul by no standards other than my own completely biased personal perception.

For instance, Silvercherry has lots of naked ladies in their videos, and they don't strike me as sleazy or skanky because I don't have that perception of Silvercherry the company. On the other hand is a company like Dungeon Maidens. The name of that company is synonymous with skank in my mind, for no real reason other than thats how I feel. I also feel this way about several other video companies. So, I suppose the initial thread is confusing in that its purpose was ill defined. I was asking two questions in one:

1) which do you like more: a) wholesome, clothed, girl next door tickling
b) nude or scantily clad sexual tickling.

2) The second purpose of the thread was to state my opinion that some video companies strike me skanky, sleazy, porn enterprises (no offense, everybody's gotta make money). This assessment is based on nothing but personal observation: everything from the look of the girls, to the settings and bondage, to the tickler's clothing to the name of the company. Starting over, I am curious, 1) which type of tickle atmosphere of the two listed above do you prefer and 2) do you also feel that some video companies are dirty skanky porn enterprises (which is not a bad thing). Hope this clarifies the thread. I now realize it should have been two seperate threads but the topic seemed linked in my understanding.

Cheers,

Meth

 

[TicklishLurker]

Well, no matter how people might protest otherwise, we're all here because tickling is sexual for us. It's a fetish - a sexual fetish. You can cry all you want that it's "innocent fun" but it's not. If it was you woudn't be here.

That being said - while I don't purchase videos because of my living situation, it depends on how I'm feeling as for the pictures I view. Sometimes I want full nudity - sometimes I don't.

It depends more to me how the gal looks - ones with nasty, rotten looking teeth, unwashed hair, unshaving pits - don't want to see it. There's a picture by that Yaqi person of a blond being tickled in a pink bikini that just buts the crap out of me because there's this weird ring-thing under the skin of her armpit. Like if she's got a tumor growing there. There's another (don't know by who) of a woman with a total 80's hairdo and someone pulling a feather through her toes who has NASTY teeth - I actually think there's more then one but in the other she's being armpit tickled and it's an ever closer picture, so you get to see how green and ugly her teeth are. Like they picked up some drug addict off the street.

Now that, to me, is a skank. Go to a dentist, lady!

 

[cloudgazer2k]

i prefer clothed tickle models more than nude. models that are in a teddy, shorts and a tank top, or just a black thong and bra...it works for me better. it leaves something to the imagination (reason #2 why my girl has only been photographed in clothes). however, nudity in a tickling vid isn't just for looks. it's the total vulnerability, the illusion of control lost. sometimes the more devious side of me wants so see a model partially or fully nude as she withstands the tickles. and on a personal note, i'm very thankful that there are ladies out there willing to put their sanity on the line for some extra cash to be videoed in their most vulnerable moment. as another poster has typed in the past, that's my two cents.

 

[Amnesiac]

Easily resolved query

Well, consider these things:

1. Girls-Next-Door do get naked, just not in open view. Doesn't mean some of them don't WANT to.

2. "Girl-Next-Door" is a title, and titles are marketable.

3. There's a difference between exotics and skanks. Not all exotics are skanks, and not all skanks are exotic.

4. Tickling videos need REAL TICKLISH GIRLS...you can go either way from there.

Too much hullaballoo is made about "Girl-Next-Door". Christian attitudes about sex and anything-related-to-sex made the image of sexually ignorant girls to be the ideal...coincidentally, Judeo-Christian society encourages us to seek out the ideal in a materialistic way; which kinda means society created its own disease. Since the ideal is reserved for the elite (under the whole "deserves" thing), and we always want what we can't have, many people covet the sexually unattainable Girl-Next-Door, since everybody is taught to believe that girls living in your neighborhood are clean and can't be had. This conditioning is so extensive even the girls themselves believe it.

And if you don't believe that, you can be made to believe. Girl-Next-Door is a title, and titles are marketable. Advertising can make a market with the right campaign, and I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people who started liking the Girl-Next-Door thing because the advertising made them think it was real and better than it really is.

Finally, exotics tend to be victims of neglect/trauma/abuse. Victims of abuse instinctively compensate for these underdeveloped personality traits with exaggerated behavior, mostly in appearance, self-image, and sexuality. Victims of sexual abuse are ususally hyper-sexual or asexual, and you can find exotics who inhabit both spectrums. Whichever one you prefer depends entirely on the various influences and experiences in your life that shape your sexual tastes.

Me, I'm greedy. I like both.

Either way, the real problem is LACK OF TICKLISH WOMEN. You need REAL TICKLISH GIRLS in videos...everything else is window dressing trying to appeal to sex to compensate for the fact that the tickling is FAKE. Supply real tickling and real ticklish girls, and you can go anywhere you want from there. Girl-Next-Door or Exotic and I don't care...if she's ticklish, I'll watch.

'Nuff said.

 

[Goodieluver]

I'm sure there are some highly moral, self respecting girls that are putting themselves through college, there's a few of those....and a whole lot of skanks!! Women who will do anything for attention or money.

Here are some skanks we all know: Courtney Love, Anna Nicole Smith, Paris Hilton, Condaleeza Rice

Therefore would not every girl in a tickle video be considered a skank cuz they are portraying their bodies for a fetish company and being paid for it and are being marketed to an adult consumer base who majorly watch them for sexual gratification, and some of these actresses of which do this for college or other purposes for needing money.

As long as the girl is attractive(in my eyes) and ticklish, i could care less how they look. My two fave companies are bleu fetish and Parkers, both are rather opposites but both provide great material and i have never been dissapointed by their supurb material.

It may be just me but this thread reminds me of a Über thread years ago about consentual tickling vs non consentual tickling, which do u prefer and how "moral" is it.

 

[some1somewhere]

I perfer the "girl next door" girls. but that is why the free market is great, there will be companies that arise to fill both needs.

 

[method11236]

Technically...

It doesn't matter if they're nice girls next door or skanks. All that matters is how they are portrayed and how I perceive them. I have never seen one girl next door nor a single skank. All I have seen is my mind's perception of these girls based on a few minutes of them being tickled. They might all be sunday school teachers. They might all be prositutres with the clap. Who cares what or who they really are?

...Well, I do. If you can convince me that a model being tickled REALLY is a cheerleader, a babysitter, a nun, a company exec, then I guarantee I'll buy your videos every time. I challange video companies to start providing us with these real women from society.

Girls next door and skanks are BOTH done for. What we need is old women, muslim girls in hijabs, goth chicks... I need real women with a distinct role in society being tortured.

Cheers,

Meth

 

[Goodieluver]

I, like Jim, believe that in order to have a constructive discussion, one must define the terms in question. I do believe that I misrepresented my definition of 'skank' in my initial post. Not every girl who appears naked in a video is a skank. However, certain video companies seem to hire girls who I see as generally unsavory and/or foul by no standards other than my own completely biased personal perception.

For instance, Silvercherry has lots of naked ladies in their videos, and they don't strike me as sleazy or skanky because I don't have that perception of Silvercherry the company. On the other hand is a company like Dungeon Maidens. The name of that company is synonymous with skank in my mind, for no real reason other than thats how I feel. I also feel this way about several other video companies. So, I suppose the initial thread is confusing in that its purpose was ill defined. I was asking two questions in one:

1) which do you like more: a) wholesome, clothed, girl next door tickling
b) nude or scantily clad sexual tickling.

2) The second purpose of the thread was to state my opinion that some video companies strike me skanky, sleazy, porn enterprises (no offense, everybody's gotta make money). This assessment is based on nothing but personal observation: everything from the look of the girls, to the settings and bondage, to the tickler's clothing to the name of the company. Starting over, I am curious, 1) which type of tickle atmosphere of the two listed above do you prefer and 2) do you also feel that some video companies are dirty skanky porn enterprises (which is not a bad thing). Hope this clarifies the thread. I now realize it should have been two seperate threads but the topic seemed linked in my understanding.

Cheers,

Meth

I do not hate any tickle company out there and applaud\thank them for the work but i will simply state obvious things.

I ask what is your official definition of sleazy. For dungeon maidens i presume because alot of it deals with forced orgasm F\F torture. You mention silvercherry cuz u dont have the sleazy impression of them but silvercherry does more than just tickle videos, they do handjob\footjob videos as well. So why does this not cause you to have the "Sleazy" impression of that company?

To me, it seems your definition of sleeze is what apperance they have, if they look like a girl next door who doesnt cause trouble and is innocent then that is the girl next door, but if she's inked, multicoloured hair or seemingly wild, then she is a skank and hence considered "dirty"

So what makes one company sleezy and another nice?
As for providing real women in society, you want the companies to show yearbook fotos and other type stuff to prove for you that said girl was a cheerleader or something along the lines? As with movies, its about the fantasy, i know arnold isnt a cybernetic creature or hercules or conan, its the fantasy.

 

[Capnmad]

I like variety!

You're welcome to your own opinions of people and companies, and it's a free country, and so you may cast sweeping generalizations of same based on the single criteria of appearing nude.

I, however, disagree with the premise on it's face, lest I should disdain that skanky "Spirit of Justice" who had the audacity and Girls Gone Wild-mentality to bare her breast on national TV while standing behind Attorney General John Ashcroft! Thank goodness he and the Bush Administration had the good sense to save future generations from skankdom and skankological influence by covering her exhibitionism with an innocuous curtain! Yes. I think that did us all a lot of good.

I don't know -- this all seems totally reductio ad absurdum to me:

1. I imagine you like tickling vids. I think you said as much. I think you also said you don't assess women who do tickling vids clothed as "skanks". Cool. I concur.

2. I imagine you like naked women. If you're lucky enough, maybe you've spent time with some. I imagine in your assessment, the fact that they got naked in front of you didn't automatically make them skanks. If it did, did you sleep with skanks? What does that say about you?

So why, if being naked doesn't make you a skank, and being clothed and tickled in a video doesn't make you a skank -- why, sir, does being naked and tickled in a video qualify one for skankhood? Please explain to me the nuances and variation in degrees of skankosity, so we can have a proper understanding. (And prithee, for humor's sake, feel free to add any other skank-derived words I may have missed. 😀 )

I love women. Period. Naked, clothed or in between, relaxed or panting and sweaty, taut and toned or soft, curvy and sexy, and tickled teasingly, erotically, and/or fiercely 'til they're crazy (with a slight bias toward the latter two, or better, a combination of the last three! ).

I'm not one to limit myself in what I view nor in what I draw. I find women inherently beautiful, and know enough to say that just because one agrees to be naked and tickled does not speak at all to promiscuity nor otherwise to their character or content as a good and decent person. Assumptions of skankitude (one's aptitude for skankness -- yay! I found two more "skank"-based words!) based on such variables as nudity I find spurious at best and totally untenable at worst.

I like 'em all, by damn. And nudity in a tickling vid is just like whipped cream on my frappuccino -- just makes it better. ...now if I could only find nudity and whipped cream in a tickling video! 😀

 

[Babbles]

Capnmad re: qualifications for skankhood.

BRAVO!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[chicago]

Obviously it's all a matter of opinion.

I think "Girl Next Door" isn't just a look, but more an image, an act.

A lot of BleuFetish's videos feature girls with piercings, tattoos, and funky hair colors, but also, a lot of them, even while naked, seem shy or innocent and are described as cute and insinuated to be girl-next-doorsy. (Of course BleuFetish features other types of girls too.)

I guess what I'm saying is that naked or clothed, both could be this Girl Next Door, because I am pretty sure the girl next door occasionally gets naked and perhaps even has *gasp* sex, as much as that may ruin the image for you.

I'm rambling here, and it's probably all been said in previous posts, but I'm lazy so I haven't read them all. Skank and/or Girl Next Door is an opinion.

Fin.

 

[method11236]

So why, if being naked doesn't make you a skank, and being clothed and tickled in a video doesn't make you a skank -- why, sir, does being naked and tickled in a video qualify one for skankhood? Please explain to me the nuances and variation in degrees of skankosity, so we can have a proper understanding. (And prithee, for humor's sake, feel free to add any other skank-derived words I may have missed. 😀 )
__________________________________________________________

Well,

Being naked, tickled or being naked tickle and forced to have an orgasm while being nailed by a midget in a chimp suit DOES NOT MAKE YOU A SKANK! Whether or not a girl is a skank is a judgement I make based completely on my perception of her, her laugh, her haircut, the bedspread on the bed to which she is tied, or the company that produced the video. I have no idea if any of these girls are skanks are not...I just think some are.

The original purpose of this thread was to find out if people liked girls they perceived as "nice" or "naughty" as well are for me to criticize some video companies at will.

Also, the idea that every company is doing God's work by providing us with tickle vids is bull. They should be subject to the free market like any business. I hope the Last Laugh and French Tickling have record profits. I hope Tickle Horror goes out of business so the companies I like will make more money and then they can hire a midget in a chimp suit to nail some skank-ass skeezo chicken head slut rag while she's being tickled in the nude.

Cheers,

Meth

 

[Babbles]

Precisely.

I hope Tickle Horror goes out of business so the companies I like will make more money and then they can hire a midget in a chimp suit to nail some skank-ass skeezo chicken head slut rag while she's being tickled in the nude.

Cheers,

Meth

No need to comment further.

Feel free to remove your foot before your suffocation has been completed.

Is this thread deletable by any chance....???

 

[chicago]

What exactly is a Chicken Head?

I don't think that phrase caught on for a reason.

Or maybe it has caught on...

What the hell do I know

 

[Bugman]

I love that girl next door type myself,but just taking her clothes off does not make someone a skank.That is such an ugly word.To each his own i guess.

 

[method11236]

I agree.

Taking off your clothes doesn't make you a skank. Being a skank makes you a skank. This is why we need more interviews with models before and after tickling. Not just so we can hear them say the T word and jag-off to it. But so that we may discover just who is and who is not a skank.


Meth

 

[Aachen1983]

Taking off your clothes doesn't make you a skank. Being a skank makes you a skank. This is why we need more interviews with models before and after tickling. Not just so we can hear them say the T word and jag-off to it. But so that we may discover just who is and who is not a skank.


Meth

I agree there has been a rise in the bodacious skank population.