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HELP, Old School Rap Question! La Di Da Di?

BellaRisa

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Please help settle a bet:

A friend's wife mentioned that she didn't know who Slick Rick is. I described him and said "he did 'La Di Da Di' among other things". My friend attempted to correct me, saying that 'La Di' was Doug E. Fresh. I insisted that while they were a team at the time, it's usually considered a Slick Rick tune and he performed it back in the day. Everywhere we look it up it either says both of them or Slick Rick featuring Doug E.Fresh, and the lyrics are under Slick Rick-which to me means that Slick Rick performed it. But my friend insists that since Rick was part of the Get Fresh Crew it has to be considered a Doug E. Fresh song.

When you folks think La Di Da Di, do you think of Slick Rick first or Doug E. Fresh ?

(And yes this is petty, we don't care :devil: )

Thanks!

Bella
 
Charlie Rock of Harlem World crew was instrumental in bringing Slick Rick and Doug E. Fresh together when Doug requested an introduction after he had seen him win local MC battle contests. It was at an MC contest at the 369 Armory on 142nd street in Harlem, given by promotion partners Ray Chandler & Charlie Rock, The Rick & Doug were formally introduced by Rock.

As a 19-year-old in the summer of 1985 he scored his first big hits, "La Di Da Di" and "The Show."


Looks like they did it together in 1985......

By 1985, Fresh was one of the biggest names in rap music, and his first single for Reality, "The Show/La Di Da Di," became a hip-hop classic. It was recorded with his Get Fresh Crew, including MC Ricky D (only later to gain fame as Slick Rick),


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slick_Rick

http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/doug_e_fresh/bio.jhtml
 
As I recall - being about the only white kid in Duncanville TX listening to rap in 1984-85 .... maybe the only kid period! - "The Show" and "All the Way to Heaven" were more Doug E. Fresh songs with Slick Rick playing a major supporting role in them as a part of the Get Fresh Crew, while "La Di Da Di" was more of a Slick Rick song with Doug E. Fresh playing a major supprting role in it. At the time, it even seemed like the Get Fresh Crew didn't have much to do with that specific song (like, it was just a duet rather than a full crew production.....) but obviously Venray's research discounts the prespective I had at that time. So that's what I know.
 
"La Di Da Di" was more of a Slick Rick song with Doug E. Fresh playing a major supprting role in it. At the time, it even seemed like the Get Fresh Crew didn't have much to do with that specific song (like, it was just a duet rather than a full crew production.....)


See, Slick Rick (MC Ricky D back then) performs the song solo on the classic cut, in fact the lyrics support that with Rick referring to himself several times(see below). Rick is the lone voice unless Doug intro's him for the first three lines (and I don't think he even did that), so most consider it a Slick Rick tune. I think either I'm right or it's a draw but it's NOT a Doug E, Fresh rap.


MC Brown Splenda



Okay party people in the house...
This is something you never witnessed before...
Yes, it's the incredible doug e. fresh...
With his partner, the grand wizard mc, ricky d
D, and that's me in the place to be.
We goin' to do it for '85, kick it live, allright?
Cuz you know, you're all sick of all these crap rappers
Biting their rhymes because of they're back steppers.
But when it comes to me and my man doug fresh here,
There is no competition 'cause we are the best, yeah.
But as impress, which we approve
And yeah, we realize that we are on the move,
So listen closely so y'all don't miss
As we go a little something like this, hit it!

La-di-da-di...
La-di-da-di...
La-di, da-di!
Yo peep this

La-di-da-di, we like to party
We don't cause trouble, we don't bother nobody
We're, just some men that's on the mic
And when we rock upon the mic we rock the mic right
For all of y'all, keep y'all in health
Just to see you smile and enjoy yourself
Cause it's cool when you cause a cozy conditioning
Which we create, cause that's our mission
So listen close, to what we say
Because this type of shit happens everyday
I woke up around ten o'clock in the morning
I gave myself a stretch up, a morning yawn and
Went to the bathroom to wash up
Put some soap on my face and my hand upon a cup, said
Mirror mirror on the wall
Who is the top choice of them all
There was a rumble tumble, five minutes it lasted
The mirror said, "you are you conceited bastard!"
Well that true, that why we never had no beef
Then i washed off the soap and brushed the gold teeth
Used oil of olay cause my skin gets pail
And then i grabbed the file for my finger nails
I'm true to the style on my behalf
I put the bubbles in the tub so i could take a bubble bath
Clean, dry, was my, body and hair
I threw on my brand new gucci underwear
For all the girls i might take home
I got the johnson's baby powder and the polo cologne
Fresh dress, like a million bucks,
Put on the bally shoes and the fly green socks.
Stepped out the house stopped short, oh no




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Went back in i forgot my kangol
Then i dilly, dally, i ran through the alley
I bumped into this homegirl named sally from the valley
This was a girl playing hard to get
So i said "what's wrong?" cause she looked upset
She said uh, "it's all because of you
I'm feeling sad and blue
You went away
And now my life is filled with rainy days
I love you so
How much you'll never know
Cause you took your love away from me"
Now what was i to do
She was crying over me and she was feeling blue
I said, "don't cry, dry, your eyes
Here comes your mother with those two little guys"
Her mean mother steps and says to me "hi!"
Hit sally in the face and punched her in the eye
Kicked her in the belly, and stepped on her feet
Slammed the child on the hard concrete
The bitch was strong, the kids was gone
Something was wrong i said what was going on?
I tried to break it up i said, stop it, leave her
She said, "if i can't have you she can't either"
She grabbed me closely by my socks
So i broke the hell out like i had the chicken pox
But uh, she gave chase, she caught up quick
She put a finger in the face of mc rick, and said
"why don't you give me some play?
And we can go cruising in my (oj)
And if you give me that ok
I'll give you all my love today
Ricky ricky ricky, can't you see
Somehow your words just hypnotize me
And i just love your jazzy ways
So mc rick my love is here to stay"
And on and on and on she kept on
The bitch been around before my mother's born
I said, "cheer up!" i gave her a kiss
I said, "you can't have me i'm too young for you miss"
She said, "no you're not," then she starts crying
I says, "i'm nineteen", she says, "stop lying!"
I said, "i am -- go ask my mother
And with your wrinkled pussy, i can't be your lover!"
To the heart tick tock you don't stop
To the heart tick tock you don't quit, hit it!
 
Actually, bella its both. They both give credit to the song.

Indeed. Doug E Fresh is provides all the beat/music--via "human beat box"--to that song. I'm surprised no one mentioned that yet.

I'm definitely dating myself now, but I believe this is also back when he and Buffy (a.k.a. Buff Love...a.k.a. Doc Nice......a.k.a. "The Ox that Rocks" lol) from the <i>Fat Boys</i> would each claim to be the "Original Human Beat Box." The debate rages on... LOL yep. petty. 😛
 
Brown Splenda!? Applause!!!

I guess if you were going to get really truly hard core legal about it, you could look into the ASCAP archives and see if Doug and Rick both got writing credit. But I think in terms of plain ol' public acceptance, I think most people identify it as a Slick Rick song (and yes, with much where-did-my-youth-go embarrament, I forgot all about Doug E. Fresh doing the beat box on that single).

But he was called Ricky D then.... that is interesting. See, there is a Bowowow song from the early '80s that makes a reference to a "Ricky D"; at the time Malcom Mclaren was managing Bowowow and going to the very basic street rap of the period for inspiration (culminating with his rap album 'Duck Rock'). Rick would have been a very young teen, if that old, at the time so I doubt he's the inspiration for the lyrics - there were probably a lot of people going by similar names back then...)

But then again, maybe even in 1982 or so he was rapping, and known well enough in the street circles that he inspired someone from another continent involved in a completely different genre of music? Intreauging.
 
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