Hulk Hogan is the Stupidest man in Wrestling...

[SlaverTickler]

Well I was going to go to bed, but I thought I should show everbody just how big of an idiot Hulk Hogan is.

Hogan on the Montreal Screw Job
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This just proves that Hogan doesn't care about the buisness when he isn't involved with it. What a jerk off.

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[FlockOfSeagulls]

What a great clip....thanks for posting

Do you not understand the difference between the ''wrestling persona'' and the actual person.

I have heard on many occasions that Bret said he didn`t want to lose in Canada. How freakin selfish is that. Or did you somehow not hear that???



I am not a big Hogan fan, but just one more time , maybe you will understand. Hogan is a character played by a person . I bet Mr. Calloway is a person outside the ring nad doesn`t walk the streets as the Undertaker

 

[primetime]

Another "boo hoo" Bret Hart moment? Who gives a flying %$@* about Bret Hart's screw job. It was way back in 1997, at the Survivor Series. The only people who keep bringing it up are Bret Hart fans. Obviously these people have no other reason to live but to constantly remind people that Bret Hart was "screwed" in the world of scripted wrestling. WHO CARES?!!!! It was interesting over a decade ago, but if you haven't noticed, NO ONE OUTSIDE OF CANADA CARES about a wrestler who was screwed in a "scripted" world.

Okay, Hulk didn't have exact details, but he doesn't care about the "screwjob". WHY SHOULD HE? Hogan is looking out for himself. He was in WCW at the time. Why should he give a rat's ass about what was happening in WWE when he himself already was known for backstage politics? You think Hogan is going to say "Oh poor Bret Hart! He was screwed by the man who helped create my iconic status and also helped create Bret's!" You have got to be blind as a damn bat if you ever thought Hogan was going to support Bret. Sad thing is, Hogan IS and WILL ALWAYS BE BIGGER than Bret Hart.

Screw Bret Hart. He's retired. He's made enough peace with McMahon to be inducted into the Hall Of Fame and have his DVD made. He seems to be moving on, why can't you?

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

Another "boo hoo" Bret Hart moment? Who gives a flying %$@* about Bret Hart's screw job. It was way back in 1997, at the Survivor Series. The only people who keep bringing it up are Bret Hart fans. Obviously these people have no other reason to live but to constantly remind people that Bret Hart was "screwed" in the world of scripted wrestling. WHO CARES?!!!! It was interesting over a decade ago, but if you haven't noticed, NO ONE OUTSIDE OF CANADA CARES about a wrestler who was screwed in a "scripted" world.

Okay, Hulk didn't have exact details, but he doesn't care about the "screwjob". WHY SHOULD HE? Hogan is looking out for himself. He was in WCW at the time. Why should he give a rat's ass about what was happening in WWE when he himself already was known for backstage politics? You think Hogan is going to say "Oh poor Bret Hart! He was screwed by the man who helped create my iconic status and also helped create Bret's!" You have got to be blind as a damn bat if you ever thought Hogan was going to support Bret. Sad thing is, Hogan IS and WILL ALWAYS BE BIGGER than Bret Hart.

Screw Bret Hart. He's retired. He's made enough peace with McMahon to be inducted into the Hall Of Fame and have his DVD made. He seems to be moving on, why can't you?

Just when I think you are out of your mind , you actually say something wise and truthful. I couldn`t agree more withya. Did I mention that Deion live just north of Dallas. and will be inducted as a Cowboy!!! haha

 

[primetime]

Lol...I like what you wrote too. I'm never out of my mind....

Probably just like you, I do get sick and tired of this guy weeping over Bret Hart. My goodness, NO ONE cares anymore and instead of celebrating Bret's career, all we ever see is "McMahon screwed Bret!", "Bret was screwed", and he makes a jillion posts about some "screw job" that really wasn't all that serious to begin with. If he ever used his brain and asked the average person on the street about the screw job, most of them would tell them they are more concerned about the rising cost of gas, the conflict in the world, heck, even if their favorite sports team is doing too well, the LAST thing on their mind is Bret Hart getting "screwed" in the scripted world of wrestling nearly 11 years ago.

Yet, we still hear about it......That guy is utterly pathetic. But, get ready to hear his retort about how Bret is so great and how Bret was screwed and McMahon and WWE is pure evil. Here we go again...

Oh yeah, Deion should be inducted in a 49er uniform. That's where he got his first ring...

 

[SlaverTickler]

I am not a big Hogan fan, but just one more time , maybe you will understand. Hogan is a character played by a person . I bet Mr. Calloway is a person outside the ring nad doesn`t walk the streets as the Undertaker

I'll bet he know what he's talking about, before he talks about it. Hogan did even realize Mania was only up to 13 at that point.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Lol...I like what you wrote too. I'm never out of my mind....

Probably just like you, I do get sick and tired of this guy weeping over Bret Hart. My goodness, NO ONE cares anymore and instead of celebrating Bret's career, all we ever see is "McMahon screwed Bret!", "Bret was screwed", and he makes a jillion posts about some "screw job" that really wasn't all that serious to begin with. If he ever used his brain and asked the average person on the street about the screw job, most of them would tell them they are more concerned about the rising cost of gas, the conflict in the world, heck, even if their favorite sports team is doing too well, the LAST thing on their mind is Bret Hart getting "screwed" in the scripted world of wrestling nearly 11 years ago

Yuur as dumb as your hero. Be it the events in Montreal, or "Main Eventing" the summerslam in London, Hogam can't keep anything the happened in the indastry that made him straight. In this post I never brought up one thing about McMahon, the only mention of him was made in the clip or by you... I am begining to thing you have a crush on Vince or maybe you want Hunter job as his official Helmet Shinner ? It's to bad you can't stick to the facts that Hogan is a moron.

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

The ONLY reason you don`t like Hogan is because he was a much bigger star than Hart. That just eats away at you doesn`t it.

 

[Heeko]

First off, I totally agree with Prime. WHY should Hogan even give a crap about this match? It wasn't his match and he had no resulting consequence based on the outcome. So tell me again, why should he care?

As far as it being part of the business and he should care, puh-leese. Do you really think Hart stayed awake at night worrying about who won what scripts that night?

The main point Hogan was trying to get across is that Bret Hart REFUSED to lose in Canada.

Here's a newsflash: Employees DO NOT tell the boss how to run things.

Hart will only be bigger than Hogan in Canada. Hulkamania made the WWE and the WWE made Hulkamania.

Just my opinion, but I think the three biggest influences to turn pro wrestling "mainstream" and get fans involved and actually wanting to watch scripted pro wrestling were: (1) Hulkamania (2) Austin 3:16 and (3) the nWo

Sure there are too many superstars that helped the industry to name, but imo these three elements were the biggest keys in getting pro wrestling noticed to not only wrestling fans, but casual or even non-fans. People on the street who had never even watched a minute of pro wrestling in their lives could tell you who Hogan, Austin and the nWo were. Now that's influence.

That's what draws fans and fans are what make the business survive.

 

[storm7400]

Why are we still considering Hulk a wrestler?

 

[Goodieluver]

Why should hogan give a flip about it?

The clip is stupid too, the "everybody knew about it" and then the rude\michaels moment.

Both were only done because they were angles(hart comin to wcw and a midget bret hart fighting michaels)

 

[SlaverTickler]

The ONLY reason you don`t like Hogan is because he was a much bigger star than Hart. That just eats away at you doesn`t it.

Nah, I have a Hulk Rules t-shirt, I cheered him at Mania VI at the Dome, I was heart broken when they did the double cross with the twin reffs, but when a guy says a documentary is "The most brutaly honest film ever made about wrestling. This Movie is a must see" (in regards to Hit Man Hart: Wrestling with Shadows) and then doesn't seem to know anything about the subject matter of said film he is either a liar or an idiot. It never bothered me that Hogan was a bigger star, because every body knows Hart could have a better match with anybody every time.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Why should hogan give a flip about it?

The clip is stupid too, the "everybody knew about it" and then the rude\michaels moment.

Both were only done because they were angles(hart comin to wcw and a midget bret hart fighting michaels)

Do you know that Rude was in WCW, because of the Screw Job. He didn't have a long term contract, and after the Survivore Serries he jumped over to WCW out of discust for Vince and loyalty to Bret. He also spoke up for Bret with Bichoff because he thought Bret was in on the Screw Job as an angle. In fact Ric is the only person to apear on both Raw and Nitro on the same night.

 

[Adam]

Just wondering. Why are we getting so testy with each other? I like my wrestling too, but jeez.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

The ONLY reason you don`t like Hogan is because he was a much bigger star than Hart. That just eats away at you doesn`t it.

I think everyone knows by now that Bret is better. You could hear how Hogan was being a bit sarcastic in that audio. Fuck Hogan

 

[SlaverTickler]

I think everyone knows by now that Bret is better. You could hear how Hogan was being a bit sarcastic in that audio. Fuck Hogan

Gordon Solie: Well ladies and gentlemen this is certainly and unexpected turn of events. It would apear as though Tickle_Fiend and the man they call SlaverTickler have actualy found common ground... how long will it last, only time will tell.

Thanks for the back up Tickle_Fiend, I certainly wasn't expecting that lol.


For those who don't know who the late great Gordon Solie was...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0813052/

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

I think everyone knows by now that Bret is better. You could hear how Hogan was being a bit sarcastic in that audio. Fuck Hogan

Wow

Many more comments like that and we might have to bump your status as being a COWBOYS FAN. THe greatest team there is!!!

 

[primetime]

I think everyone with at least half a brain cell knows Bret Hart is a better "wrestler" than Hulk Hogan. Let's get that out right now. Bret Hart's in ring skills are at least a billion times better than Hogan.

But what gets the mainstream fan interested in wrestling? PERSONALITY. CHARISMA. Like Heeko mentioned, you ask the general mainstream about wrestling and they could tell you who Hogan is, they could tell you who Stone Cold Steve Austin is, they could tell you who the NWO is. Mention Bret Hart and by and large, the mainstream population will vaguely know who he is. Except for Canada of course who worships a guy in "scripted wrestling".

You know why I mentioned McMahon? Because you are bringing up the screw job again. Who screwed Bret Hart in the screw job? McMahon. Every freakin chance you get, you talk about this vile hatred for McMahon. Everything always comes back to the Montreal Screw Job. This must be the single most devastating moment in your life. Get a freakin clue man! In the entertainment business, people get screwed. It's the nature of the business. As soon as you realize this, the sooner you will get over this stupid Montreal crap.

You never answer a certain question brought up to you. How the hell is Bret Hart to demand that he doesn't lose somewhere? Bret Hart was NEVER big enough to demand this. McMahon is no dummy. He wasn't going to take the chance of Bret Hart going to WCW with the WWE Title belt. Bret refusing to "job" in Montreal probably made Vince nervous. Bottom line is, Vince is the boss, he is LARGELY responsible for making Bret Hart a star and YOU NEED TO GET OVER IT. Damn, that was 1997 for crying out loud. WWE is still functioning WITHOUT Bret Hart. Guess the screwjob wasn't as bad as your mind thinks it is.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT BRET HART GETTING SCREWED ANYMORE. Get it yet? I mean for crying out loud, it was interesting knews back in the 1990's, but it's been almost 11 years. You must have no life if that "tramautic" event warped your life so much.

As for Hogan, again, I never said he was a saint, but WHY should he care about Bret Hart's predicament? He was too busy being a big star in WCW with the NWO. So he didn't get the events right, who cares? I can barely remember what happened in Wrestlemania 9-12. It makes me wonder though. If Hogan supported Bret Hart and agreed with him, you would be fawning over Hogan. Tell me I'm lying...

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Hulk has a legacy.

He's done good.

He's done terrible.

But most of all..

He's basically done with the WWE.

Now, let's hate someone who actually wrestles now-a-days.

 

[SlaverTickler]

But what gets the mainstream fan interested in wrestling? PERSONALITY. CHARISMA. Like Heeko mentioned, you ask the general mainstream about wrestling and they could tell you who Hogan is, they could tell you who Stone Cold Steve Austin is, they could tell you who the NWO is. Mention Bret Hart and by and large, the mainstream population will vaguely know who he is. Except for Canada of course who worships a guy in "scripted wrestling".

"We want hitman, we want hitman, we want hit man!" you know who that is, an entire school of kids in Indea. Remember that Hart Foundatin vs America well Bret Hart was getting cheared in every country he wrestled in. Bret Hart was wrestling in Japan back when Terry Bolea was still working under the name of "Sterling Gold", and was riding in a car with a guy named Lue Thez to events when the "Hulkster" was still working in a bank and having matchs with the AWA World Champion when he was pretending to be a guitar player.

The Hart name in general is international, this is a family that blead the indastry, and people all over the world know who he is. Why believe other wise is far beyond my ability to understand. I guess the Rockets Red Glair, and the Bomb Burtsting in Air, have blinded you to the idea that anyone who isn't an American born wrestler might be well known beyond the borders of thier own nation.

You know why I mentioned McMahon? Because you are bringing up the screw job again. Who screwed Bret Hart in the screw job? McMahon. Every freakin chance you get, you talk about this vile hatred for McMahon. Everything always comes back to the Montreal Screw Job. This must be the single most devastating moment in your life. Get a freakin clue man! In the entertainment business, people get screwed. It's the nature of the business. As soon as you realize this, the sooner you will get over this stupid Montreal crap.

Yet again you have know idea what you are talking about. It is true that my dislike for Vince begins with Montreal, but it didn't turn "VILE" (good word by the way) untile the death of Owen Hart. Owen's death, while accidental, if solid proof that McMahon has absolutly NO regard for the well being of his performers. Add to this his constant need to cash in on the death of these men (Pilman, Hart, Guerrero, Beniot) if proves he is deserving of my "Vile Hatred (again great term). Consider this, when the WWE learned that Benoit was dead, the canceled a pre-recorded show, and did a tribute to him with out learning all the facts, why, because McMahon wanted to squeaze every last bit of profit from him (I would bet that the coast of advettising time probably doubled, no proof but I'd almost bet my soul on it).

A few days later, when more about it came out, Vince pops up before SmackDown and basicly Dis-Own Brenoit, and if you didn't get "Hard Nocks: The Chris Benoit Story" well you are shit out of luck because chances are you'll never see any of his stuff again. Then it comes out that Benoit had brain damage due to blund head trama from chair shots, so what does the WWE do, they post the "Top 10 chair shots of all time". Why because they are scum, and Vince is the boss so he is the big peice of shit floating on top.

You never answer a certain question brought up to you. How the hell is Bret Hart to demand that he doesn't lose somewhere? Bret Hart was NEVER big enough to demand this. McMahon is no dummy. He wasn't going to take the chance of Bret Hart going to WCW with the WWE Title belt. Bret refusing to "job" in Montreal probably made Vince nervous. Bottom line is, Vince is the boss, he is LARGELY responsible for making Bret Hart a star and YOU NEED TO GET OVER IT. Damn, that was 1997 for crying out loud. WWE is still functioning WITHOUT Bret Hart. Guess the screwjob wasn't as bad as your mind thinks it is.

Ok, I guess I have further educate you. First off all Monteal wasn't entirly about being in Canada (though that was part of it, and I'll get to that later). These "long honoured traditions" Vince likes to hide behinde like a racest claiming certain people bare the mark of Cain, work both ways. One if for the Champ who is "doing the Honourse" and one is for the guy "recieving the Honours". Now Bret was leaving, and it is tradtion for a departing performer to drop what ever title he is holding to anoteher guy on the way out, at the same time the guy he is going to drop the strap too is expected to show respect and decorem to the person droping the title to him. Shawn failed to do so, and in turn Bret said he wouldn't drop the belt to Shawn. However if you believe Mic Foley (and who doesn't) it is rummored that Bret cam up with altenatives that would have put the belt on either ManKind or Austin. However with Hunter & Micheals (sp) making up 2/3rd's of the booking crew that wasn't going to happen.

Now for the "Not Losing In Canada Thing".

I have thought about this, and I couldn't understand it myself for a while, then I was watching an old interview Bret did on a show called "Off the Record" here in Canada, and I relized where Bret might be coming from. I am a bit of a booker wanna be, so I will try to explain with another example from a another fued, I hope you'll get where I am coming from.

Remember going into Mania 19 how Hunter had his little face to face with Booker T. Trips said some pretty racial stuff, using terms like "Nappy" and saying "You not a wrestler, your an entertainer" and finaly saying "Do you're little spinnaroony for me Booker". By all rights Booker should have won, based on the Davy Duke impersonation Hunter was doing. He did everthing short of putting black paint on his face and singing Mammy, and it was bad booking to put him over Booker in that situation. Bret's going to WCW was intended to help them book events in Canada, and the fact that Shawn was running down Canada, sticking the flag up his nose and other bull shit, is along the same line as what Hunter did to Booker. For Bret to lose in Canada under thos conditions would not have been good booking. Then again had he lost the title State Side to either Shawn, or somebody else, then he could have gone over by Count Out, or lost by DQ, but Vince was more interested in shitting all over a (14 year) loyal employee who was leaving because HE asked him to, and had the gut to stand up for himself regarding stipulations in his contract. WOW what a terrible person.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT BRET HART GETTING SCREWED ANYMORE. Get it yet? I mean for crying out loud, it was interesting news back in the 1990's, but it's been almost 11 years. You must have no life if that "tramautic" event warped your life so much.

I disagree, Vince has, and continues to profit from the Screw Jobe via his Evil Mr McMahon Charactore (that sprung from the Screw Job) and the WWE doesn't mind taking Jabs by having Hebner come out when Shawn had Benoit in the Sharp Shooter at the Backlash in Alberta, or by bringing it up in SmackDown vs Raw 06 (Good game by the way). It hasn't warped my life, I have a very good life, pissing on the wwe and is just one of the ways I get my kicks.

As for Hogan, again, I never said he was a saint, but WHY should he care about Bret Hart's predicament? He was too busy being a big star in WCW with the NWO. So he didn't get the events right, who cares? I can barely remember what happened in Wrestlemania 9-12. It makes me wonder though. If Hogan supported Bret Hart and agreed with him, you would be fawning over Hogan. Tell me I'm lying...

Ok... you're lying.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Hulk has a legacy.

He's done good.

He's done terrible.

But most of all..

He's basically done with the WWE.

Now, let's hate someone who actually wrestles now-a-days.

John Cena Sucks! (How's that?)

 

[primetime]

So, Bret was cheered in every country he went to huh? I guess Hogan, Flair, HBK (pre Montreal), Stone Cold, Randy Savage, HHH, Cena, Undertaker, Sting, Luger, Dusty Rhodes, and countless others have never been cheered for in other countries. You talk about Hogan's beginnings, but in the end, WHO THE HELL HAS THE BIGGER WRESTLING LEGACY? Hulk Hogan. Whether you like him or not, his impact on professional wrestling is far superior than Bret Hart's impact. Bret Hart definitely deserves recognition, but his legacy will never be as big as Hogan's, Austin's or even Ric Flair. You know that's the truth.

Another thing just to piss you off, Bret Hart is a legend around the world, but keep in mind, an AMERICAN company is what helped make him that star. Yeah, that little ol' Canadien needed an AMERICAN promoter to make him a bigger star around the world than he would have been if he never got involved with Vince. Remember that as you keep taking shots at the United States.

Why do you keep saying Vince doesn't care about his performers? Let's get one thing straight. It is NOT Vince's fault for Owen's death. It was an ACCIDENT. Those things happen. It is unfortunate and tragic, but damn, it isn't Vince's fault. Contrary to your ridiculous beliefs, Vince is NOT evil. He is a businessman and he must always does right for his business. Owen's death is a tragedy, but not Vince's fault.

I didn't think you could be any more ridiculous with your points of view, but when I read what you wrote about how Vince treated the Benoit situation, that tells me that you are a complete bitter man, who only lives for professional wrestling. Give me a break. ALL of Benoit's fans were shocked upon hearing the news of his death and Vince decides to have a tribute show. Now think about it. You just learn of Benoit's death on Monday, the day when you show Raw LIVE, now you have to do something. It was PROPER for Vince to do a tribute show. How could he know, just like ALL of us know what the details were of Benoit's death? What was Vince SUPPOSED to do? Tell me. Tell all of us what Vince was SUPPOSED to do in that situation? Was the Owen Hart tribute show also a way to make more money? Man, you are either incredibly blind with hatred or just plain stupid.

Now, like all of us, Vince learns more about Benoit's death, so he took the appropriate steps. If Vince was truly concerned about making money, couldn't he just talked about Benoit over and over and over again, so he could possibly get more merchandise sales? NO. Vince did the right thing and try to separate himself from a murderer. I guess Vince does have a decent bone in his body huh?

I hope to all that is right in the world that you never become a booker. Did you ever stop to think that HBK was "crapping" on Canada because that's what the storyline called for? Do you really think the whole "Canada vs United States" was REAL? HBK was SUPPOSED to ridicule Canada, the same way the Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff and Sgt Slaughter was supposed to trash the United States. Do you even know what a storyline is? Obviously not.

The "Mr. McMahon" character was started with his rivalry with Stone Cold Steve Austin, not Bret Hart. Do you even remember the storyline? You Canadiens had a problem with McMahon after 11/97, but the rest of the world saw Vince as the owner/announcer. When Austin was champ, that's when the "Mr. McMahon" character started. You want to be a booker? You would really suck....

The reason why Vince still makes fun of the "screwjob" is due to the fact that people like YOU have not let go of the "screwjob". Vince would not still make references to it, if the scandal DIED years ago. But everytime he goes to Canada, he gets the "You screwed Bret" chants. And you wonder why Vince still makes light of the situation....And you want to be a booker. I hope not. Wrestling would go down the drain....

Finally, dammit, Bret Hart himself has allowed himself to work with Vince McMahon. So why on this planet are you still crying like a bitch about the screwjob and the evilness of McMahon? GET OVER IT ALREADY. Be the bigger man. Learn to forgive and people just might start to like you....

And you damn well know you would love Hogan if he agreed with your views... You know I'm right.

 

[FlockOfSeagulls]

Right on the mark Prime...


Don`t waste your time on this guy ; he is truly clueless on professional wrestling

Maybe one day he will take off his Bret Hart colored glasses and see that Hogan , Flair and others were bigger stars than his Canadian hero.


I will state this clearly again. I am not a fan of Hogan, but he was a bigger star than Hart ever was

Bye the way, the last time Hogan made the rounds on his last comeback to the wwe , he wrestled in montreal. They gave him a standing ovation for OVER 10 minutes.

 

[SlaverTickler]

First of all, you back pedal like a bitch.

So, Bret was cheered in every country he went to huh? I guess Hogan, Flair, HBK (pre Montreal), Stone Cold, Randy Savage, HHH, Cena, Undertaker, Sting, Luger, Dusty Rhodes, and countless others have never been cheered for in other countries. You talk about Hogan's beginnings, but in the end, WHO THE HELL HAS THE BIGGER WRESTLING LEGACY? Hulk Hogan. Whether you like him or not, his impact on professional wrestling is far superior than Bret Hart's impact. Bret Hart definitely deserves recognition, but his legacy will never be as big as Hogan's, Austin's or even Ric Flair. You know that's the truth.

I've never denied Hogan having a bigger legacy, or being a bigger star. The point I was trying to make was that you claimed Bret was nothing beyond his own border, and that was not true.

Another thing just to piss you off, Bret Hart is a legend around the world, but keep in mind, an AMERICAN company is what helped make him that star. Yeah, that little ol' Canadian needed an AMERICAN promoter to make him a bigger star around the world than he would have been if he never got involved with Vince. Remember that as you keep taking shots at the United States.

I have no problem admiting that you guys know how to market like champs. Just remember it was you goverment's invetigation into the steroid "scandle" of the 90's that forced Vince to turn to the little guy from Canada who had already wrestled world wide before he was even in the WWE, and was known internationaly weather you want to believe it or not. Bret was also the WWE's most popular draw in Germany, and had one of the greatest matchs of all time with the Britsh Buldog in London. As long as you keep reffering to me as a winny Canadian I'll keep taking shots at the US. You could have called me any, a whinny Bret Hart fan to a Winny White Boy, craker, mayonase, mother fucker and I wouldn't have cared less, you're the one that brought Nationality into this not me.

Why do you keep saying Vince doesn't care about his performers? Let's get one thing straight. It is NOT Vince's fault for Owen's death. It was an ACCIDENT. Those things happen. It is unfortunate and tragic, but damn, it isn't Vince's fault. Contrary to your ridiculous beliefs, Vince is NOT evil. He is a businessman and he must always does right for his business. Owen's death is a tragedy, but not Vince's fault.

It is Vince's fault, because he is the boss, he calls the shots. Just because something is an accident, doesn't mean somebody isn't at fault. Vince was the guy who went out of his way to find a company that would do the rigging with out an extra harness. You sound like everyother McMahonite who can't wait to kiss Vince's ass. Where I come from the employer is responsable for the well being of his employies. Vince is evil, he is no better then a dirty street pimp. Once he is done whoring out his workers he could care less about them. Did you ever think the Beniot thing might never have happened if Vince had said to somebody "Tell Chris is he doesn't start blocking those chair shots properly I'm going to suspend him for a month without pay".

I didn't think you could be any more ridiculous with your points of view, but when I read what you wrote about how Vince treated the Benoit situation, that tells me that you are a complete bitter man, who only lives for professional wrestling. Give me a break. ALL of Benoit's fans were shocked upon hearing the news of his death and Vince decides to have a tribute show. Now think about it. You just learn of Benoit's death on Monday, the day when you show Raw LIVE, now you have to do something. It was PROPER for Vince to do a tribute show. How could he know, just like ALL of us know what the details were of Benoit's death? What was Vince SUPPOSED to do? Tell me. Tell all of us what Vince was SUPPOSED to do in that situation? Was the Owen Hart tribute show also a way to make more money? Man, you are either incredibly blind with hatred or just plain stupid.

Well I woke up Monday morning and heard on the news that Canadian Wrestler Chris Benoit and his family were found dead, that his wife and son were in sepret rooms, and he was discoverd in the weight room, having hung himself from a weight machien. That was on the radio in a city on the other side of the border. So Vince must have known fowel play had been involved. It wasn't only unnessasary, but it was in bad taist to do a tribute show. Every tribute show is a cash crab, because raiting = revanue, and Vince see's dollar sighns every time one of his top stars dies. Alot of fans were ticked that he didn't do something "In Memorie of" Micheal Lockwood (aka Crash Holly) when he died, I guess Vince didn't see any proffit in it because he wasn't a world champ, or considered for contention (so to speak).

Now, like all of us, Vince learns more about Benoit's death, so he took the appropriate steps. If Vince was truly concerned about making money, couldn't he just talked about Benoit over and over and over again, so he could possibly get more merchandise sales? NO. Vince did the right thing and try to separate himself from a murderer. I guess Vince does have a decent bone in his body huh?

Now like all of us, Vince learns more about Benoit's death, and realizing should have waited until he got all the fact before trying to profit from the death of an employee, and he goes into instant damge controle mode. He pulls all the Benoit merch from the shelves (so to speak) put's out the call to have all things relaited to Benoit removed from WWE.com and goes on TV to (more or less) dis-own Mr. Benoit, who's death probably never would have happened if it wasn't for the lack of safty conditions in the wrestling indastry. Then when it is discoverd Benoit was suffering from braindamage caused from his dedication to making thing look "authentic". I don't understand why you can't see these things, and how you can be so dedicated to a company run by a heartless bastard like McMahon.

I hope to all that is right in the world that you never become a booker. Did you ever stop to think that HBK was "crapping" on Canada because that's what the storyline called for? Do you really think the whole "Canada vs United States" was REAL? HBK was SUPPOSED to ridicule Canada, the same way the Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff and Sgt Slaughter was supposed to trash the United States. Do you even know what a storyline is? Obviously not.

Bret Hart was suposed to ridicule the USA too, but niether him or any of the other people you mentioned ever shoved the corner of the flag up their nose, or laid it out on the mat and humped it. It's funny how you don't like me taking shots at you country, but you seem to be pretty ok with the disrespect of mine. I guess thats that good ol' one sided "American Way". I guess we Canadians must be pretty close to perfect becuase Shawn couldn't come up with anything else to do.

The "Mr. McMahon" character was started with his rivalry with Stone Cold Steve Austin, not Bret Hart. Do you even remember the storyline? You Canadians had a problem with McMahon after 11/97, but the rest of the world saw Vince as the owner/announcer. When Austin was champ, that's when the "Mr. McMahon" character started. You want to be a booker? You would really suck....

Yet again you have your facts wrong. The evil promotore idea came out of the Screw Job, and Vince himself has said this on a show called Off The Racored. Following the Screw Job all sorts of people were pissed over what Vince did so Vince went with it and turned himself into a heel Promotor. You probably would think my booking syle would suck, because I wouldn't keep white guy who makes racist remarks to a black guy going into a match at WrestleMania champion. I wouldn't feed the "Money in the Bank" winner to Randy Orton on Monday Night Raw, and waist the title shot of a pretty popular worker. I would tag up good talkers with good in ring workers so they could learn from each other, and I would try to put the biggest belt on a guy who could work the mic and in the ring the best. I also wouldn't have waisted a great oprotunity to push an up and commer (MVP) by blowing a good angle (Flairs retirement) on a match with a guy who doesn't even work house shows (HBK). My only limit is I sometimes can't invision the closer, but if I was booking TNA, and could turn to James Cornet for advice I think I would do alright. Take the poltics out of it, and I could book them to a 2.5 tv raiting easy.

The reason why Vince still makes fun of the "screwjob" is due to the fact that people like YOU have not let go of the "screwjob". Vince would not still make references to it, if the scandal DIED years ago. But everytime he goes to Canada, he gets the "You screwed Bret" chants. And you wonder why Vince still makes light of the situation....And you want to be a booker. I hope not. Wrestling would go down the drain....

Vince keeps making a buck off the Screw Job because he is digging at the fans of the guy who wouldn't kiss his ass like a house boy, and reffused to lay down and get wipped like a field hand. I would make a good booker, and the fact that you don't think I would, makes me happy to no end.

Finally, dammit, Bret Hart himself has allowed himself to work with Vince McMahon. So why on this planet are you still crying like a bitch about the screwjob and the evilness of McMahon? GET OVER IT ALREADY. Be the bigger man. Learn to forgive and people just might start to like you....

Did you even read what I wrote. The screw job is just the tip of the iceberg. It started their, but his blantent disregard for the well being of his emplyees is such a disgrace that it's snow balled into a fuming hatred that won't die untill he does. If you don't like it, too fucking bad. I'll express my views on it whenever and wherever I damn well please. If thats a problem put me on ignore. Plenty of people like me, if you don't then I guess I have one more thing to thank God for

And you damn well know you would love Hogan if he agreed with your views... You know I'm right.

Yeah, you're right about that, I would. But at least if he had gotten the facts right on what happend I could probably still repect his view either way. Mind you Hogan probably didn't mind Hart's suport for him when Vince was shitting on him after the Warrior came along.

 

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Right on the mark Prime...


Don`t waste your time on this guy ; he is truly clueless on professional wrestling

Maybe one day he will take off his Bret Hart colored glasses and see that Hogan , Flair and others were bigger stars than his Canadian hero.


I will state this clearly again. I am not a fan of Hogan, but he was a bigger star than Hart ever was

Bye the way, the last time Hogan made the rounds on his last comeback to the wwe , he wrestled in montreal. They gave him a standing ovation for OVER 10 minutes.

I am glad you got that off your chest, because it certainly couldn't have come from your brain. Then again maybe you wiped it off of pt's ass when you were back their a moment ago. I'll tell you what... let me get back to you on that comment you made later.