I Love the USA!

[Devilution1]

The United States under George Bush is more corrupt than Nazi Germany under Adolph Hitler. At least Hitler tried to make his country better. He just went about it wrong. George Bush and his equally corrupt brother and father are on the verge of starting World War 3 all to send young men and women to die in Iraq to please the corporate swine who really run this country. Oh and if you still think you have freedom of speech then youre just being naive. There is more censorship in this country and disinformation on the evening news to make a person gag. The good old USA was trying to pass the Patriot Act long before 9/11. Makes one think if perhaps there was some government involvement in those planes crashing doesnt it? It certainly benefited their quest for the passing of the Patroit Act and despicable Homeland Security which reminds one of the SS. America is the devil of the world. Im curious if this post will be deleted or should I say censored like my thread about how sinister the American threat is in the current world. I gotta check on this this evening to see if a different opinion is allowed here.

 

[jj82277]

so let me get this str8, i see the avatar of the burning flag, and you say that the United states is and i quote "more corrupt than NAZI GERMANY UNDER ADOLPH HITLER", and you say this because "at least hitler tried to make his country better he just went about it the wrong way."

and the Bush family is risking WWIII by pleasing the let me get this right CORPORATE SWINE that really run this country, uh huh.


I have asked this question to others who share similar views, but i have not had a response, and sense you purport to be so bold, i will ask you, Are you content to just spew ultra liberal rethoric or do you honestly have any origionall comments to add to this discussion.

First off let me appologize to the Members that are of Jewish descent for this obviously calous and misinformed belittling of one of the greatest human tragedies in the history of Mankind that was the Hollocaust. I am only comforted by the fact that such ill advised statements can hardly be taken seriously.

as for the accusation that the Bush Administration has exceded a corruption level that owuld exceed one of the most purely evil and sinister govenments in the history of mankind who contemplated World domination to enforce his ideas, which he gangfully persued of completely annialating a race is just plain unexcusable. have you no decency sir. The idea that removing a regime that mass murdered and tortured innocent people of his own country, with no aperance of ebing any threat for nothing other than sadistic pleasure and liken it to the acts of the greatest monster in the modern era just speaks to your obvious inability to comprehend, or reason.

By the use of the word corprate swine i can only assume that like too many americans in this country you have blamed others for your own personal lack of prosperity, and in an attempt to justify your short comings you unleash your envious rage on the easiest targets right in front of you. I would only hope that in your 33 years that you have come to a greater maturity level than that. As i have posted before, everyone in this ocuntry wakes up with the same 24 hours to work with and the degree of everyones succes and wealth is directly proportional to the merrit of the sum of those 24 hours. don't blame those that were willing to sacrafice and build because you were not able to. I pose the same questions i posed to him What is an Rith IRA wha is the averaged return for a growth mutual fund since 1929 and what is the rule of 72, dare you to respond with the same level of boldness and disrespect that you have shown here today.

It is the curse of men that they desecrate the corpses of Giants, and i feel sorry for the millions of men and women that have given the most ultimate sacrafice to protect that symbol which you so freely desecrate in this public arena. The reason that i love this country so much is that even in the most blatent case of incorrect irrational thinking that someone as misguided as this will still be afforded the right to speak his views in peace without the threat of undue persecution, no matter how scued or unfactual his views may be. And that i may also too, respond in kind ina public arena in public debate which is one of the most coveted ideals of that flag, even as you burn it because as long as an american inhabits this earth old glory shall have a home.

 

[Devilution1]

I have nothing against Jews whatsoever. Just making a comparison. Believe me the Bush administration would do the same thing to citizens of countries like Rwanda which the US wouldnt ahem "liberate" because there is no money to be made by helping Rwanda. In Iraq theres loads of oil. Thats good for Bush's rich Texas friends isnt it? Oh but in your comments those born with a silver spoon oil barons wake up to same day of work as I, a humble elevator repairman....thats just stupid no offense man. Youre backing a mound of cockroaches in your comments sir and for being liberal and not having anything original to say you seemed quite surprised by me comparing the Bush administration to the Nazi Empire. And who are you to apologize to Jews worldwide? That was one of the most arrogant acts ive ever seen!!! Whats next gonna apologize for Hurricane Katrina or the Civil War?

 

[alf1]

Oh and if you still think you have freedom of speech then youre just being naive. There is more censorship in this country and disinformation on the evening news to make a person gag

ah those medias are evil ^^
But you are right about Bush administration just taking care of their oil business and totally forgotting people who need real help. Just an external point of view though.

 

[Camel26]

Jj--on behalf of the Jews on the theater, this Jew accepts your apology...🙂 However, I'm a liberal...please don't group all of us liberals into the same pen as the gent with the burning flag icon...I'm socially liberal...fiscally conservative...and would never compare or equate Dubya with Hitler...I am the granddaughter of a holocaust survivor and of one of the GI's who liberated the camps...Bush is quite possibly the biggest douchebag on the planet...but the fact remains that we live in a country where we are allowed to say we don't like our president, or make fun of him on national TV without having the gestapo come and gun us down...so everyone just chill the hell out...and Devilution--if you truly hate this country, LEAVE!!! Sitting here and bitching doesn't change anything...so why don't you take your energy and do something productive to change what you don't like? That is the difference between liberal and progressive...liberals sit back and bitch about what's wrong...progressives try to change what's wrong...

 

[Devilution1]

ah those medias are evil ^^
But you are right about Bush administration just taking care of their oil business and totally forgotting people who need real help. Just an external point of view though.

Thank you Alf! Its nice to see someone express an intelligent contrary opinion and not resort to the cheerleading Rah! Rah! America Rules!

 

[IrishTickle1]

Eh didn't you just go on an "America Sucks" Cheer/rant?

 

[alf1]

Oh, i'm just trying to see the dark side well hidden by the mass medias. And it's nothing new i think, people living in America must have noticed it too, but don't talk about it.

 

[Devilution1]

Eh didn't you just go on an "America Sucks" Cheer/rant?

No

 

[Devilution1]

and Devilution--if you truly hate this country, LEAVE!!!

Check my location slick. :tounge:

 

[BigNorm]

bush is a very big douchebag, yes, and it seems corporations are running the show, and things don't seem so nice. but that doesn't represent america.

USA is bigger than one man, one president, or any stinking corporation. and i say god bless america, damnit!

before world war 2, the united states was crawling out of a big depression, nobody wanted to go to war, but i'll be damned, when the japs bombed pearl harbor, we raced to war like a damn hornets nest, pearl was a pin prick compared to how we tore japan a new hole.

the heart and meaning of america will live on, no matter the circumstances, or which president is in office. just like in world war 2, some one fucked with us, and we're going after them like the damn grim reaper. someone once told me about the war in afganistan. "you know you got your asses kicked when your reduced to hides in CAVES!"

i just find it funny hearing terrorists in iraq, afganistan, and iran saying how we will tremble in fear and gonna kill us all. not a chance, you can't defeat the american powerhouse.

even if nazi germany somehow defeated all of europe and asia back in the 1940, they couldn't beat us. we have far superior numbers, technology, and like hello, separated between 2 vast oceans. hitler was fucked from the get go.

hot damn i love this country.

 

[alf1]

just like in world war 2, some one fucked with us, and we're going after them like the damn grim reaper

uh does it means that if the Japanese wouldn't have bombarded Pearl Harbor, USA would have never intervent in the second war, just watching other countries being massacred by the Germans ?

 

[IrishTickle1]

No

Actually if you read you original post, you'd see that you did. From all intensive purposes, you're trolling. You could have made a simple statement, but you had to go and insult people, in order to get a reaction from them. Chill out, man.


And Bignorm, not to belittle Americas contribution in WW2, by the war in the pacific was a massacre for both sides and America only stopped it by resorting to genocide. Granted it got the job done, but a lot of innocents died. And also, Germany was merely a couple of months of developing a nuclear long ranged bomber that would have levelled many American cities. It was due to a few very minor details that this never happened. (Lucky thing, I guess). Anyway, I'd just like to thank America for the Discovery Channel, which teaches me all these facts 😀

 

[alf1]

I'd just like to thank America for the Discovery Channel, which teaches me all these facts 😀

yeah long live Discovery Channel, but there were books before that told about it 😉

 

[BigNorm]

uh does it means that if the Japanese wouldn't have bombarded Pearl Harbor, USA would have never intervent in the second war, just watching other countries being massacred by the Germans ?

no, we helped out long before Pearl. we supplied our allies with equipment and machines of war, and sent over our best pilots to help the RAF. the people of america didn't want to go to war, and Roosevelt did what the americans wished. americans knew how bad it was, since world war 1 was pretty grim. we would've intervened, no matter what.

 

[alf1]

Thanx for this explanation bignorm. By the way one of my grandfathers battled by side with your GI's in Normandy 🙂

 

[IrishTickle1]

yeah long live Discovery Channel, but there were books before that told about it 😉

Yeah, but thanks to america mass producing tv shows, nobody needs to read anymore 😀

 

[BigNorm]

Thanx for this explanation bignorm. By the way one of my grandfathers battled by side with your GI's in Normandy 🙂

you mean on D-Day? or just in Normandy in general?

 

[Devilution1]

Actually if you read you original post, you'd see that you did. From all intensive purposes, you're trolling. You could have made a simple statement, but you had to go and insult people, in order to get a reaction from them. Chill out, man

Im not trolling thats for damn sure. I have respect for BigNorm, Alf yourself and every poster on this thread. You have a right to your opinion (for now) and I have a right to mine yes? The only reason it might SEEM like trolling is because I have strong opinions. However I backup my claims with history I feel. Now I know my facts wont be enough for most but I dont work in the Pentagon or the Oval Office....thank God.

 

[IrishTickle1]

Well the fact that you were wondering if the thread would be deleted or censored kinda shows that you knew people would be upset. Granted, you can "rage against the machine" all you want, hell I agree that the us government doesn't give much of a sh1t about anything other than money and power, and the accumulation there in, but can't we all just get along? And there's hardly a need to bring Hitler into this. That's a whole other kettle of fish and no one needs reminding of it.

And anyway. America may not be the land of the completely free, but it did give us endless web pages and forums like these dedicated to tickling!

 

[Devilution1]

As I said Irish I respect your opinion but I feel in these times its absolutely necessary to bring people like Hitler, Stalin, etc. and compare them to George Bush. I know the rest of the world is.

 

[BigNorm]

Im not trolling thats for damn sure. I have respect for BigNorm, Alf yourself and every poster on this thread. You have a right to your opinion (for now) and I have a right to mine yes? The only reason it might SEEM like trolling is because I have strong opinions. However I backup my claims with history I feel. Now I know my facts wont be enough for most but I dont work in the Pentagon or the Oval Office....thank God.

yes, you have a right to your opinion ( i think. i don't the rules in Berlin, but in the good ol USA, you can say whatever you please.)

you may believe in the Nazi way of life, or you may just hate bush or the USA, i don't care, i think your entitled to your opinion, not sure. but talk like that will get you alot of enemies.

 

[IrishTickle1]

As I said Irish I respect your opinion but I feel in these times its absolutely necessary to bring people like Hitler, Stalin, etc. and compare them to George Bush. I know the rest of the world is.

But there is no need to compare. If you think there is, you may as well compare him to mickey mouse or Ghandi. They have little to do with each other. Particularly Stalin, he was a psychopathic, paranoid nut! Bush is just an idiot. In fact the best comparison I heard about him was that he's like a contestant in the special olympics. You don't know how he got there, but you have to admit, it's funny watching him.

 

[zymankow]

Hi Folks,

I was just reading this topic being curious (forgive me in advance, my english is a crap). I was wondering, what You Americans like in Your country. No offense ment, just a question. I heard, yes, You can say Your opinion, without being gunned 🙂 but that's just the same here in ol' Europe, even in once communist countries like mine, so I got used to it. So please, "put something on the table"! 🙂 What's so great in the US? I've never been there, so I gotta know, what to visit/try out etc.
As for an opinion: the little number of Americans I had the luck to speak to, were alright in my book. Bit eccentric and loud for me, yes, but they were generous, and blessed with a good sense of humour.

And, Devilution: Personally, I wouldn't compare Bush either to Hitler or Stalin. I don't like him, but he's just a conceited kid of ma & pa. The other two were madmen, twisted by war and the horrors they had to experience.

best regards

Wildboar

 

[BigNorm]

what i like BEST about America, huh? well, hard to put my finger on one thing.

but to name a few, a great and big country, with diverse people, the freedom issue is a good thing, the most fair government. military superiority is a big plus.

it's all hard to put into words, just the whole package of it all, and the pride of my country, no matter then problem , we tackle it head on. and the fact we play big brother to the rest of the world is a good thing.

basically, you gotta be an american to see why we well up with pride about our country.