I'm feeling like a monster. Some thoughts from you would be helpful.

[Helena]

I thought that I was a submissive lee that liked to receive a really harsh tickling.

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely, and if I know they hate it, I love to watch it happen. There was a clip on here recently that was called "Another Massacre" with duct tape, bondage, and 2 ticklers attacking baby oiled feet. I loved that.

I recently witnessed someone being tickled, and I watched it happen and loved viewing it. This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

I would like to hear from someone who will tell me the truth. I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

 

[toneus79]

You're a monster

However if it is any help, I sometimes feel like a monster. The trouble is I don't know where to go to buy one (perhaps the toy shop)

 

[isabeau]

I thought that I was a submissive lee that liked to receive a really harsh tickling.

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely, and if I know they hate it, I love to watch it happen. There was a clip on here recently that was called "Another Massacre" with duct tape, bondage, and 2 ticklers attacking baby oiled feet. I loved that.

I recently witnessed someone being tickled, and I watched it happen and loved viewing it. This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

I would like to hear from someone who will tell me the truth. I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

nooo that doesnt make you a monster. i love to watch those types of clips also, but for me i envision myself as the one receiving the tickle torture. also i love reading the stories about kidnapping and being interrogated, its a thrill for me to place myself in their shoes lol.. no pun intended.

ps i also get hot thinking about it... but i myself wouldnt want to be the one giving the tickle torture, i want to be on the receiving end....

isabeau

 

[tulipangel]

Your not a monster... I happen to find it quite sexy to see that too!

 

[Ticklerguy4u]

I dont think its the torture you are attracted too. But the tickling that excites you. I doubt you wouldn't have the same reaction if the girl wasn't giggling but crying.

 

[FunJoe]

No. your not a monster. I enjoy watching those types of clips,too. I think
almost all of us like watching those types of clips.

 

[drew70]

I know how you feel. There's the part of you that knows it's wrong to inflict tickle torture on an unwilling victim. It breaks all the rules of decency and fair play. But then you see it happen in a clip, or a movie, or in real life, and it excites you so much, you find yourself struggling to maintain your composure. The outrage of the victim and audacity of such a tickler. Yeah. Been there many times.

Perhaps you've come to a place in which you're imagining yourself as the tickler in a non consensual tickling scenario. If it hasn't happened yet, it's on the way, trust me. As long as you indulge these feelings strictly within your imagination, you're okay. Another thing you can do is find a willing ticklee who will do some roll playing.

I myself can't stand being tickled. The sensation is so overwhelmingly crippling and despairing, it really is pure toture. Dispite that, I still want it and need it. When I walk away from an intense tickling session, I feel like my emotions and my psyche have been washed clean. It's a euphoric feeling that everying is going my way and there are no troubles or worries in my little world. I tell you this because sometimes it isn't so monstrous to tickle torture somebody. 🙂

 

[sole seeker]

I thought that I was a submissive lee that liked to receive a really harsh tickling.

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely..

I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

Everyone has different facets to their subconscious. Some parts awaken later than others. We all evolve. There's nothing wrong with this. It's well known and written about extensively in literature that everyone has a darker side to their nature.

Also, you will probably be surprised occasionally by some of the things you find yourself responding to. I know this is true in my case. My advice is to not let these things disturb you. Just accept them and go on from there. Your subconscious desires are not things you elect for yourself. Your actions are another matter.

 

[starfires]

I have developed a sadistic streak, and really get off on watching other people get tickled insanely, and if I know they hate it, I love to watch it happen. There was a clip on here recently that was called "Another Massacre" with duct tape, bondage, and 2 ticklers attacking baby oiled feet. I loved that.

I recently witnessed someone being tickled, and I watched it happen and loved viewing it. This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

I would like to hear from someone who will tell me the truth. I am not used to these feelings. I feel so hot thinking about that.

Yeah, I think that's pretty dark (I won't say "evil" -- let's reserve that for people who actually torture others against their will, as opposed to just think about it). However, enough of us here (myself included) are just like you, that it doesn't make you a freak -- unless being into tickling in general counts.
I'd say as long as you don't act on your fantasies, you're ok, though sometimes the line can get blurry. What somebody is getting tickle tortured out of their mind, and you have the power to interfere and stop it, but don't -- does that make you a monster? I suppose it depends on your reasons.

 

[leeboy]

I wouldn't worry about it Helena, it's all a part of the whole tickling experience. I think all of us started off as one or the other. More of a lee or more of a ler, but as time goes by the two kind of blend into one interest in both ! I'm in Ma too ! I sent you a pm.

 

[Lord Doctor]

Now... this will most likely not make sense.
A monster you're most probably not.
I'm not fond of the idea of forcing tickling (or anything else) on someone who hates it.
But then I'm sure that there are those who hate the sensations of tickling, yet still like being tickled because they are submissive or whatever, and get something out of it even though they hate being tickled.

So it's probably not that bad, really.

 

[Dandy Jack]

I think that

Now... this will most likely not make sense.
A monster you're most probably not.
I'm not fond of the idea of forcing tickling (or anything else) on someone who hates it.
But then I'm sure that there are those who hate the sensations of tickling, yet still like being tickled because they are submissive or whatever, and get something out of it even though they hate being tickled.

So it's probably not that bad, really.

it's great to see someone tickle tortured. When I was in high school I was the constant victim of girls tracking me down and tickling me. They thought that it was fun to tickle me because I was such a smart aleck. It was embarrising to be tickled in a public place. To have my arms stretched over my head always seemed to make me feel even more helpless. (My sides were my extreme ticklish spot.

Later in life I seem to have lost most of my ticklishness. Still to this day when I see someone helplessly tickled I become aroused and exicted. I think what I love the most is to see someone go from being in control to losing total control. I remember that feeling well.

Just as some people have commented, I imagine myself being grabbed held down and then tickled. When you are tickled like that one tends to panic at first... then you realize your helpless state. You laugh your head off... and there is simply nothing that you can do until your ticklers release you. It can tickle so bad. I love that feeling.

I'm always in great amazement to see it happen... that's especially true of someone who hates to be tickled. The fighting, the struggle to remain in control... and finally the loss of control and slipping into a laughing mess of screaming, crying and laughing. It's one of the most enjoyable experiences that I have experienced on this earth.

I don't think that you are a monster to enjoy seeing someone get tickled against their will. If anything we have something in common... because I love to see it.

Dandy Jack

 

[nowayjose]

This person is not into tickling, and she screamed alot, and I really got off on her suffering. Am I a freak?

Well, congratulations and welcome to the club of sadists. You should however keep in mind that real life is different from fantasies and video clips.

 

[Dandy Jack]

People that enjoy

Well, congratulations and welcome to the club of sadists. You should however keep in mind that real life is different from fantasies and video clips.

seeing other people ticked against their will are not sadists. To even imply it means that you have missed the point of why people come together in this forum.

Real life and fantasies can easily be one in the same. It is for me. I love to see girls helplessly tickled. I also make it happen. For me it is all in the spirit of fun.

To make personal attacks about a certain lifestyle is pretty shortsighted. People prefer different things. I happen to prefer tickling.

If you don't like tickling or relate to it... then why are you here?

Dandy Jack

 

[toneus79]

seeing other people ticked against their will are not sadists. For me it is all in the spirit of fun.

Just to play devils advocate here, if I decided to Tickle you against your will, because I found it fun, would you enjoy that ?

 

[kis123]

Just to play devils advocate here, if I decided to Tickle you against your will, because I found it fun, would you enjoy that ?

I'm glad someone got around to asking this.

And no, I don't think Helena is a monster-but I personally get no thrill out of non-consensual tickling at all. I do not enjoy the look of suffering on the lee/victim's face. I do not enjoy taking someone's power and control away if they didn't consent to it. And if it's done in public it only makes it worse for me to deal with.

I enjoy ticking when it's consensual, fun, playful, sensual, and depending on the scene, sexual. Anything over the lines and I'm first turned off, then I get pissed off.

 

[TikleBelly]

seeing other people ticked against their will are not sadists. To even imply it means that you have missed the point of why people come together in this forum.

Real life and fantasies can easily be one in the same. It is for me. I love to see girls helplessly tickled. I also make it happen. For me it is all in the spirit of fun.

To make personal attacks about a certain lifestyle is pretty shortsighted. People prefer different things. I happen to prefer tickling.

If you don't like tickling or relate to it... then why are you here?

Dandy Jack

Perhaps you have missed the point of why people come together in this forum.

Seeing people being tickled against their will is not what a lot of people here enjoy.

I enjoy consensual tickling. I sincerely do not enjoy seeing or participating in truly nonconsensual tickling.

For me the rush of tickling a woman that truly enjoys being tickled is one of the main reasons why I come to this forum.

There is a wide variety of people in this forum and each have their own particular reasons and interests in tickling.

Nonconsensual tickling is among the interests of some of people here in this forum, but certainly not of everyone or even a majority of them here share that particular form of tickling.

 

[Dandy Jack]

tickling is always

Just to play devils advocate here, if I decided to Tickle you against your will, because I found it fun, would you enjoy that ?

fun for people that enjoy tickling. I have been tickled many times against my will. It was scary at first but in the end I loved it.

Someone with a special thing for tickling enjoys all forms of tickling. So the answer is yes!

A devil or an advocate will never understand... When someone is bit by the tickling bug... they love tickling here or there they love tickling everywhere.

Dandy Jack

 

[toneus79]

fun for people that enjoy tickling. I have been tickled many times against my will. It was scary at first but in the end I loved it.

Someone with a special thing for tickling enjoys all forms of tickling. So the answer is yes!

A devil or an advocate will never understand... When someone is bit by the tickling bug... they love tickling here or there they love tickling everywhere.

Dandy Jack

Dandy Jack, you are contradicting yourself my friend, and confusing the inevitable and uncontrollable struggling that one experiences as a Lee (and like yourself I am a male Lee) with it somehow being non consensual. It isn't non consensual for you, despite what you claim, as you enjoy it as do we all on this forum.

It is non consensual for people who do not enjoy being tickled (very unlikely such people would find their way onto this forum), and to tickle such people against their will is a form of assault (which may range from mild to aggravated)

 

[Dandy Jack]

The original issue

Dandy Jack, you are contradicting yourself my friend, and confusing the inevitable and uncontrollable struggling that one experiences as a Lee (and like yourself I am a male Lee) with it somehow being non consensual. It isn't non consensual for you, despite what you claim, as you enjoy it as do we all on this forum.

It is non consensual for people who do not enjoy being tickled (very unlikely such people would find their way onto this forum), and to tickle such people against their will is a form of assault (which may range from mild to aggravated)

that was to be addressed was... Do you feel like a monster because you like to see non consenual tickling or you like to see people tickled against there will. I love to see it. I just love it!!!

Seeing it does not make one a monster. Whether it is assault or not depends on the facts. Under a strict look at the facts all harmful or offensive touching is considered assault.

I can assure you that in the history of man there have been few convictions for non consenual tickling.

Many people that are extremely ticklish will not submit to be tickled. That makes it all the much more fun to watch those people when they are finally tickled.

I love to see those people lose control.

I saw a girl before her her surprise birthday party be tickled by her friends. She was tickled for at least 20 minutes. They told her they would let her go if she went with them somewhere. They took her to a restauraunt.... It was her birthday party. She screamed, kicked, and begged... I loved it. When they got her ticklish soles she totally lost it. I got a thrill out of watching that!

In the end although without her consent... she was tickled into submission.

I'm sure that there are comments all accross the board.

Whether it's right or wrong.... I simply love to see it. If that makes me a monster... Then I've just crossed over to the Dark Side. (emphasis added)

Dandy Jack

Even the Jedi Council loves tickling

 

[scorpionldr]

personally i think because I can be a monster I would be horrible for a relationship.....i mean shit all i think about IS tickling half the time......it's like, do i want a relationship if I know the person is going to suffer from the one turnon I really have?

 

[kis123]

that was to be addressed was... Do you feel like a monster because you like to see non consenual tickling or you like to see people tickled against there will. I love to see it. I just love it!!!

Seeing it does not make one a monster. Whether it is assault or not depends on the facts. Under a strict look at the facts all harmful or offensive touching is considered assault.

I can assure you that in the history of man there have been few convictions for non consenual tickling.

Many people that are extremely ticklish will not submit to be tickled. That makes it all the much more fun to watch those people when they are finally tickled.

I love to see those people lose control.

I saw a girl before her her surprise birthday party be tickled by her friends. She was tickled for at least 20 minutes. They told her they would let her go if she went with them somewhere. They took her to a restauraunt.... It was her birthday party. She screamed, kicked, and begged... I loved it. When they got her ticklish soles she totally lost it. I got a thrill out of watching that!

In the end although without her consent... she was tickled into submission.

I'm sure that there are comments all accross the board.

Whether it's right or wrong.... I simply love to see it. If that makes me a monster... Then I've just crossed over to the Dark Side. (emphasis added)

Dandy Jack

Even the Jedi Council loves tickling

Well, I'm glad that you have made your point so clear. I feel I should do the same. Here's one reason why I have learned to loathe non-consentual tickling on basically any level:

It can be used to abuse. My ex would use tickling against me during an arguement or when he wanted to manipulate or control. Now maybe you think it's okay to dominate another through tickling-I can definitely tell you that I don't think it's okay nor will you convince me otherwise.

Obviously I got over this since I'm here on the forun with all of you now. I also got rid of his sorry dusty a** so I don't feel assaulted or abused in my own home anymore.

You see if I was the girl in your birthday party story, the ending would've been completely different. I would have felt violated beyond forgiveness and we never would've been friends again, birthday party or not.

If I want to be tickled, I CONSENT to it! If I don't want to be tickled and someone does it anyway, there will be an assault charge all right-as soon as the tickling stops, the beating will commence!

For those of you who just thrill over someone else's agony-that's your business. For myself and those who find it absolutely repulsive, that's our business. We have different tastes and turn-ons I guess that's just the way it is.

 

[nowayjose]

seeing other people ticked against their will are not sadists. To even imply it means that you have missed the point of why people come together in this forum.

I hope people don't come together on this forum to tickle others against their will... at least that's not the impression I had when I joined.

To sum it up: yes, it can be erotic, in fiction. But not so in real-life. Remember that the "nonconsensual" stuff in videos is just acting for $$$.

 

[Helena]

I would like to thank everyone who replied to my thread.

I really wanted some honest feedback about the new feelings I was having,
and I realize now that I need some serious help if I enjoy watching someone who doesn't proclaim to be a lee get tickled to death.

I love watching people get severely tickled, and since I'm a lee and new to these feelings, I wasn't sure if that was normal. I've never been an open ler, so I'm really glad that the lers put me in my place and told me that I should be in jail, and that doing that is against the law.

I feel like a real pervert. Perhaps I need to withdraw from tickling. I'm sad but thankful that you corrected me.

 

[kis123]

I really wanted some honest feedback about the new feelings I was having,
and I realize now that I need some serious help if I enjoy watching someone who doesn't proclaim to be a lee get tickled to death.

I love watching people get severely tickled, and since I'm a lee and new to these feelings, I wasn't sure if that was normal. I've never been an open ler, so I'm really glad that the lers put me in my place and told me that I should be in jail, and that doing that is against the law.

I feel like a real pervert. Perhaps I need to withdraw from tickling. I'm sad but thankful that you corrected me.

Throughout this entire thread, no one has called you a monster and I'm sure you're a really nice person. I just have my lines drawn based on a less than pleasant experience. I'm not trying to sling mud your way at all. It's your preference and obviously you have several who feel just as you do about non-consentual tickling.

You can walk away from this forum today and your feelings will not change. You'll just repress them until you can't hold them anymore. This is an open forum to people who love tickling on any and every level. We're going to have different tastes and preferences-find the one that fits you best and don't worry about what I or anyone who disagrees with you thinks.