India's Police use tickling interrogation(article)

[brianspencer66]

Thursday, April 13, 2006



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Tickling – Delhi police’s new ‘torture’ technique

By Iftikhar Gilani

NEW DELHI: Police in New Delhi have revealed that they are increasingly adopting a novel way to extract confessions from criminals in their detention. In a bid to ward off complaints by the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), other civil rights groups and the Union Home Ministry, which accuse them of routinely torturing criminals in their custody, Delhi Police have decided to tickle confessions out of defendants. “We have found tickling a useful way to extract confessions. We employ this technique on educated criminals who complain to human rights groups of police torture,” revealed a senior police official. He admitted that, in the past, police officials did indeed used to beat criminals. “Now we tickle them under their armpits until they get out of breath from laughing. The technique has proved quite efficient and many criminals have confessed.” According to Delhi Police, a white-collar criminal three weeks ago not only confessed to his crime after being tickled – he also revealed the whereabouts of his accomplices.

 

[Sammi-chan]

Where exactly is this article from anyway? 😵

 

[brianspencer66]

Here is a link to this article. The Pakistan Daily Times Apr 2006

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\04\13\story_13-4-2006_pg7_53
I found this of all places on the "United Kingdom Tickling" forum in their "tickling discussions' section.

 

[GirlWhoLikes2Laugh]

I read that story, that's very interesting Brian. Guess it's better than beating them.

 

[Sammi-chan]

Well, time to go commit some crimes in New Delhi then. 😛 That's kinda weird, I gotta say, that they'd turn to that. Probably just seems that way because it's literally something out of our fantasies.

 

[deadlywiffeathr]

im with u sammi-chan, im off to commit some minor crimes in new delhi!! lol

 

[brianspencer66]

I dont advocate prisoner torture but boy this makes the imagination reel!! to be the fly on the wall at a New Deli jail lol

 

[maniactickler]

I dont advocate prisoner torture but boy this makes the imagination reel!! to be the fly on the wall at a New Deli jail lol

unfortunately, im guessing almost all of the prisoners would be men. id take a pass on watching that.

 

[Em Es]

What about frisking?

I've wondered how often police officers accidentally (or, if a 😀 female suspect, purposely) tickle people they frisk.

 

[tickle_jockey]

It is TRUE

I am from India. It is partly true that the police here tickle suspects.

It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police. The men still get strapped onto a block of ice and electrocuted.

 

[Sammi-chan]

So, at least the last part of the article is false?

 

[brianspencer66]

I am from India. It is partly true that the police here tickle suspects.

It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police. The men still get strapped onto a block of ice and electrocuted.

Hmm I wonder if the video tape any of this stuff? 😕

 

[Headsnap]

It might seem weird at first for whatever reason, but if you look at the physiology of it it's only slightly different to making a suspect run for a few miles or something.

I also like the insinuation of this:

"We employ this technique on educated criminals who complain to human rights groups of police torture"

Does that mean that the uneducated ones who WON'T complain still get it round the head with a nightstick?

 

[brianspencer66]

It might seem weird at first for whatever reason, but if you look at the physiology of it it's only slightly different to making a suspect run for a few miles or something.

I also like the insinuation of this:

"We employ this technique on educated criminals who complain to human rights groups of police torture"

Does that mean that the uneducated ones who WON'T complain still get it round the head with a nightstick?

Well you are aware that India has a very strict class system in their country, so Im not really suprised that somthing like this goes on based on class and education.

 

[maniactickler]

I am from India. It is partly true that the police here tickle suspects.

It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police. The men still get strapped onto a block of ice and electrocuted.

Now thats what i like to hear!

 

[Libertine]

Caste

Well you are aware that India has a very strict class system in their country, so Im not really suprised that somthing like this goes on based on class and education.

Actually it's based on skin colour. The highest caste, the Brahmins, are generally palest of skin, and so on 'down' while the original Dravidian indigenous peoples, the 'Untouchable' castes, are the darkest. The subject interests me because in Britain there are a large number of peope of Indian origin, and some complain they are discriminated against on the basis of their colour.

Here's an article I found.

Scientists Find Link Between Indian Caste Rank And Genetic Similarity To Europeans
Science Daily — In India, members of higher ranking castes are genetically more similar to Europeans, while lower castes are more similar to Asians, according to a study published in this month's issue of Genome Research.


The study is from an international team led by Michael Bamshad (University of Utah) and is the most comprehensive attempt so far to explore the impact of ancient Western migrations on people in India.

The origins of people living in India are under debate. Some 5000 years ago, Indo-European speaking people from West Eurasia entered India and purportedly mixed with native proto-Asian populations in the region. Historians believe these West Eurasian immigrants established the present Hindu caste system, while appointing themselves to higher rank castes.

In this scenario, members of higher rank castes should exhibit a closer genetic relationship to Europeans than lower rank castes, given the taboos prohibiting intercaste marriages. However, previous genetic studies with a limited focus have not produced a consensus on Indian origins. The present study compares maternally inherited DNA variations, paternally inherited variations, and bi-parentally inherited variations between 265 Indian males of different castes and 750 African, European, Asian, and other Indian males. The detailed comparison revealed that genetic similarities between Indians and Europeans tend to increase with caste rank.

Intriguingly, the scientists found different trends when comparing maternally inherited (mitochondrial) variations and paternally inherited (Y chromosome) variations. Maternally inherited DNA in Indian populations was overall more similar to Asians than to Europeans, though similarity to Europeans increased with rank. Paternally inherited DNA, on the other hand, was overall more similar to Europeans than to Asians. These results support the notion that the West Eurasian immigrants mixing with native populations were mostly male, and that they tended to insert themselves into high ranking positions in the developing Hindu Indian caste system.

 

[Cosmo_ac]

I am from India. It is partly true that the police here tickle suspects.

It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police. The men still get strapped onto a block of ice and electrocuted.

Just curious, but how do you know this is true?

 

[shadow365]

I'm gonna have to second Cosmo on this, call me a doubting Thomas, but it just seems like something that wouldn't happen.

And, not to burst anyone's bubble, but you aren't going to see a video or pictures of this, there isn't much chance that if this IS true they would want it documented like that.

 

[brianspencer66]

Just curious, but how do you know this is true?

Well Im not one to always believe everything I read. But here is a guy from India who says it is to back the story up. Besides they do much worse things to prisoners there. Why is it so far fetched to think they would not tickle?

 

[tklfiend]

I've wondered how often police officers accidentally (or, if a 😀 female suspect, purposely) tickle people they frisk.

I knew a very cute (and EXTREMELY ticklish) blond waitress who worked in a waffle shop down in Florida. One day while I was having breakfast she told me she'd been arrested (traffic offense) the day before and the worst part according to her was being frisked. "Ah am just SO ticklish!" she gushed. I can imagine the cops had a lot of fun with her!

 

[TickleGoddess06]

Boy, I wish we'd do stuff like that here in America. I have a feeling that I might commit some minor crimes. lol How cool would it be if they did do that here. Actually, I do remember coming across an Article where the Army uses tickling as a way to interrogate prisoners in Iraq but I can't find that article now for the life of me.

 

[blackfeather]

Nice find. I think this could be true, especially the part of -It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police-
Well, now I have this question. I don't know if it had been done before: Is the tickling a really way of torture? I mean, in a real life situation, Is it a cunrrently used method?
Cause, in the movies you only see tortures related to pain and suffering, nothing even close to tickling.
What you guys think?

 

[Fire_Sprite]

Nice find. I think this could be true, especially the part of It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police

How does that make it more believable? To me it sounds like the guy made that up because f/f is his preference.

 

[brianspencer66]

Nice find. I think this could be true, especially the part of -It is only the women who get tickled though, and only by female police-
Well, now I have this question. I don't know if it had been done before: Is the tickling a really way of torture? I mean, in a real life situation, Is it a cunrrently used method?
Cause, in the movies you only see tortures related to pain and suffering, nothing even close to tickling.
What you guys think?

Black feather according to the articule its somthing that is currently used by the Authorities in New Deli. This is seemingly used on people who are educated white collar "criminals" because the authorities are concerned they are more likely to complain of physical beatings. Im on a quest now to find some sort of cross refrence to validate this story or repudiate it as some here are skeptical as of its origins. This is somthing that I found on the United Kingdom Tickling Forum that was posted.

 

[brianspencer66]

Actually it's based on skin colour. The highest caste, the Brahmins, are generally palest of skin, and so on 'down' while the original Dravidian indigenous peoples, the 'Untouchable' castes, are the darkest. The subject interests me because in Britain there are a large number of peope of Indian origin, and some complain they are discriminated against on the basis of their colour.

Here's an article I found.

Scientists Find Link Between Indian Caste Rank And Genetic Similarity To Europeans
Science Daily — In India, members of higher ranking castes are genetically more similar to Europeans, while lower castes are more similar to Asians, according to a study published in this month's issue of Genome Research.


The study is from an international team led by Michael Bamshad (University of Utah) and is the most comprehensive attempt so far to explore the impact of ancient Western migrations on people in India.

The origins of people living in India are under debate. Some 5000 years ago, Indo-European speaking people from West Eurasia entered India and purportedly mixed with native proto-Asian populations in the region. Historians believe these West Eurasian immigrants established the present Hindu caste system, while appointing themselves to higher rank castes.

In this scenario, members of higher rank castes should exhibit a closer genetic relationship to Europeans than lower rank castes, given the taboos prohibiting intercaste marriages. However, previous genetic studies with a limited focus have not produced a consensus on Indian origins. The present study compares maternally inherited DNA variations, paternally inherited variations, and bi-parentally inherited variations between 265 Indian males of different castes and 750 African, European, Asian, and other Indian males. The detailed comparison revealed that genetic similarities between Indians and Europeans tend to increase with caste rank.

Intriguingly, the scientists found different trends when comparing maternally inherited (mitochondrial) variations and paternally inherited (Y chromosome) variations. Maternally inherited DNA in Indian populations was overall more similar to Asians than to Europeans, though similarity to Europeans increased with rank. Paternally inherited DNA, on the other hand, was overall more similar to Europeans than to Asians. These results support the notion that the West Eurasian immigrants mixing with native populations were mostly male, and that they tended to insert themselves into high ranking positions in the developing Hindu Indian caste system.

Thanks for sharing this Jonmath this is makes alot of sense. I knew a white girl who dated an Indian gentlemen who once told her "the darker the skin the lower the person is". Its the same thing that happened to people of mixed race origin here in this country or so called coloreds (south africans of mixed origin) in South Africa. There was even a story once of an Indian man born into a lower cast system who went on to be a doctor but he had to come here to the United States to practice. He explained that he would never have been accepted in his country due to his cast origin.