Interesting Loch ness site

[NavelTickler75]

http://www.theloch.com/index.html

And an interesting idea as to what Ness might actually be!

 

[*~Game Girl~*]

God damnit people! Nessie dosen't exist! I should know..I LIVE in Scotland. and not far from Loch Ness...It's all a hoax. Nessie does NOT, I repeat, does NOT exist. XD

 

[NavelTickler75]

God damnit people! Nessie dosen't exist! I should know..I LIVE in Scotland. and not far from Loch Ness...It's all a hoax. Nessie does NOT, I repeat, does NOT exist. XD

Okay then lassie, give me some distinctive, definative proof of that.
How can you know its NOT a mutant eel? That seems to be the populr theory now. And unlike a pleasuar a mutant eel, like the one seen at this site, would definately be able to live in the loch, even be able to escape it through the River Ness to the North Sea/Ocean if it had too.

What's more, it could be possible that the animal was trapped there during the time of St. Columba, not the ice age, nor millions of years prior to that, meaning a large or medium sized species of these eels could indeed survive there.

 

[Fire_Sprite]

The burden of proof isn't on her. Any scientifically minded individual has more than enough right to say that there's no such thing as a deer with wings, because there's no evidence, probability, or ecological reason for its existence! Sure the giant eel is a popular theory now but before that it was a dinosaur, and before that a sea monster. People keep adapting the nature of this "monster" as science is constantly evolving and making its identity as myth laughably obvious. Why do they do it? Because they want it to be true. Before you accuse me of wanting it to not be true, let me just say that I'd love nothing more. As a lover of both animals and science, few things are as exciting as discovering a creature that completely redefines what we know about wildlife biology. But its all b.s.!

I can't give you ultra definitive irrefutable chocolatey covered proof that there is no loch ness monster any more than you can prove definitively that there isn't a 60ft ice cream sandwich anywhere in china. You'd have to go through every since inch of china to confirm that statement and I'd have to scour the ocean for a mutant eel.

But when in doubt, overwhelm with evidence:

1. If it was only one monster it'd have to be hundreds of years old.

2. There isn't enough food for one monster. Loch Ness is almost entirely plankton. If the dinosaur/eel was the length of a limo it would eat the entire lake's supply of char, salmon, and trout in about ten years.

3. A line of sonars was dragged over the entire lake and found no monster.

4. No remains have ever been found.

5. No monsters have been found in any other similar lake on the entire planet.

If you think any of the above could be skirted with the belief that the creature(s) is migratory and travels to the ocean through some magically undetectable gate, keep in mind that nessie sightings occur all year round.

6. And about the sightings, there's a thousand different things that could explain the sightings. Waves could easily be schools of fish, the temporarily surfacing head could be driftwood or an upturned boat, a tooth in a dead animal's body could easily be a deer antler.


Its seems pretty consistent that the people who have these nessie sightings were either looking for the monster in the first place, or have something to gain from the hype. The stories of seeing a "great long neck coming out of the water" are all made by tour guides and innkeepers. And all scientific evidence is discovered by some asshole selling a book.

 

[NavelTickler75]

The burden of proof isn't on her. Any scientifically minded individual has more than enough right to say that there's no such thing as a deer with wings, because there's no evidence, probability, or ecological reason for its existence! Sure the giant eel is a popular theory now but before that it was a dinosaur, and before that a sea monster. People keep adapting the nature of this "monster" as science is constantly evolving and making its identity as myth laughably obvious. Why do they do it? Because they want it to be true. Before you accuse me of wanting it to not be true, let me just say that I'd love nothing more. As a lover of both animals and science, few things are as exciting as discovering a creature that completely redefines what we know about wildlife biology. But its all b.s.!

I can't give you ultra definitive irrefutable chocolatey covered proof that there is no loch ness monster any more than you can prove definitively that there isn't a 60ft ice cream sandwich anywhere in china. You'd have to go through every since inch of china to confirm that statement and I'd have to scour the ocean for a mutant eel.

But when in doubt, overwhelm with evidence:

1. If it was only one monster it'd have to be hundreds of years old.

2. There isn't enough food for one monster. Loch Ness is almost entirely plankton. If the dinosaur/eel was the length of a limo it would eat the entire lake's supply of char, salmon, and trout in about ten years.

3. A line of sonars was dragged over the entire lake and found no monster.

4. No remains have ever been found.

5. No monsters have been found in any other similar lake on the entire planet.

If you think any of the above could be skirted with the belief that the creature(s) is migratory and travels to the ocean through some magically undetectable gate, keep in mind that nessie sightings occur all year round.

6. And about the sightings, there's a thousand different things that could explain the sightings. Waves could easily be schools of fish, the temporarily surfacing head could be driftwood or an upturned boat, a tooth in a dead animal's body could easily be a deer antler.


Its seems pretty consistent that the people who have these nessie sightings were either looking for the monster in the first place, or have something to gain from the hype. The stories of seeing a "great long neck coming out of the water" are all made by tour guides and innkeepers. And all scientific evidence is discovered by some asshole selling a book.

I'm not saying I am an absolute defendant for it to exist either, my man. I was in my childhood and my early adult hood, but the facts DO stack up against it in the long run. In my opinion, there might have been something there, but it is probably long since either extinct, or has somehow changed at a rapid cycle into something else. Since evolution doesn't normally work that way with the exception of a massive change in the ecosystem, something we haven't seen in the loch, it seems that Nessie died long ago.

Second it would have to have been numerous animals, as no animal we know has lasted more than perhaps a hundred and twenty years at the longest. Even if each Nessie lived that long, and only had two babies, it wouldn't make much sense for their survival.

Of course there have been many drownings in the Loch, tourists as well as locals. Even with the cameras and technology, we've not found their bodies either. So as to remains, it would be hard pressed to assume we'd find one Ness at the very least, simply because we could not find remains of humans. And I could be wrong here, but I believe that the ice cold waters would slow down decomposition, which means ashes to ashes wouldn't apply too much here. Maybe to the earliest of drown victims, but one would think those who drowned in lets take a guess of around the seventies or eighties might still be fleshy, to a point, save for the eels (the smaller variaty that we know are there) don't eat. Of course with nessie like sitings around the world you're correct you'd think a corpse would turn up, but how long before we actually had a corpse of a giant squid as compared to their tales in legends?

I'll say neither yea nor nay to this, and in truth I hope its never solved. Let the people have their legend. Its not hurting anyone to believe in it. In a modern world we need some legends to keep up from losing our minds.

 

[tickmankyle1]

nice site

i saw a speical where in that lake they put big logs in the lake and people said they saw loch ness they were suprised when they said it was to them it was a log/ big stick so i think it is a fake

 

[NavelTickler75]

i saw a speical where in that lake they put big logs in the lake and people said they saw loch ness they were suprised when they said it was to them it was a log/ big stick so i think it is a fake

Very easy to trick people in those waters. I am not sure if there is something there, preferably I would rather keep the legend just that. Let them have magic,

 

[cloudgazer2k]

in this world, anything is possible. when a living specimen that could only be classified as a Megalodon, a species of shark that existed millions of years ago, was found, one can only imagine what else lurks in the briny deep.

sure, Loch Ness may not be as deep as the middle of the Pacific, but there are things even our up-to-date scanning technology cannot see.

 

[NavelTickler75]

in this world, anything is possible. when a living specimen that could only be classified as a Megalodon, a species of shark that existed millions of years ago, was found, one can only imagine what else lurks in the briny deep.

sure, Loch Ness may not be as deep as the middle of the Pacific, but there are things even our up-to-date scanning technology cannot see.

True, very true.

But the Megladon? Someone found a shark close to it? When was this?

 

[cloudgazer2k]

True, very true.

But the Megladon? Someone found a shark close to it? When was this?

happened when i was a kid. a fishing boat came across it and fished it out. i'll try and do some looking later to see if i can find the article.

 

[red indian]

The monster does exsist, its got ginger hair, it eats fried mars bars, its the fattest monster in the world (second only to American monsters) and its subsidised by the English tax payer!

 

[Headsnap]

As an Englishman residing within the Highlands of Scotland I can officially confrim that the only monsters in the vicinity of Loch Ness are the women in Fort Augustus.

 

[Jyhrrf]

http://www.theloch.com/index.html

And an interesting idea as to what Ness might actually be!

It's a book. A fictional thriller, at that. The live (recently alive?) creature in the photos is a very mundane moray eel... in fact, it's stock/archival footage. You can find photographs of the thoroughly well-known moray eel in any elementary school level book on beasties of the sea.

 

[NavelTickler75]

It's a book. A fictional thriller, at that. The live (recently alive?) creature in the photos is a very mundane moray eel... in fact, it's stock/archival footage. You can find photographs of the thoroughly well-known moray eel in any elementary school level book on beasties of the sea.

I do know its a fictional book, BUT the idea that it might be an eel have been talked about for a good fifteen years, and not a moray eel, but an aguilla eel is what it may be. Aguilla's are suppose to be from all I have read, and not just from this book, ten times nastier than morays, although about as shy as the moray.

http://www.ittiofauna.org/webmuseum...guillaanguilla/images/Anguilla_anguilla05.jpg

http://www.divegallery.com/moray2_.jpg

The first is of an aguilla eel. Of course the second is of the Moray.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_CFv1mDUeY an interesting youtube vid too. I don't think I'd swim in those waters. Perhaps this is the sub from that movie they were doing with Sherlock Holmes.