Interracial Marriage- Expression Of Thought

[Limeoutsider]

My view on life, it dosent involve you, concern you, stay the fuck out.

This works on workplace gossip, gay bashing, actually any kind of discrimination, and give em a grand excuse to ignore people

 

[Red Jester]

It all comes down to the same vice, pride. People all like to be proud of themselves. People are proud to be Americans even though they've done nothing to perpetuate the success of their country. People are proud of being white because they believe they've somehow contributed to building the most powerful civilizations on earth. People are proud of their families just because having someone's last name entitles you to share their success. A Nazi doesn't hate a black person because they're black, he hates them because they're not white. That’s the problem with interracial marriage. People see it as someone diluting their race with a foreign substance so they oppose it. I don't agree with them, but I respect them.

It’s not exactly good natured to call anyone who disagrees with you "small minded." Are Christians small minded for believing their religion is correct when all others are completely wrong? Are vegetarians small minded for thinking eating meat is immoral? Is a Middle Eastern kid with dead parents small minded for not trusting a US soldier with an M16? Our opinions are the result of the compilation of our life's experiences. He thinks interracial marriage is wrong, obviously nobody agrees with him but it is based off something. And I don't think it makes him a bad person. I think it and the rest of Mitchell's description makes him a bad person but that’s beside the point.

 

[Mitchell]

Red, just so we are 100% clear, my problem with him is two fold. One, his views on interracial marriage. He can have a right to feel interracial marriage is wrong. I dont dispute that. I personally can think it's small minded, but that's his right to feel that way.
The big problem I have with this guy, are his broad, and general statements, basically condeming anyone who engages in interracial marriage. That is my problem. If, as I pointed out in an earlier post in this thread, he had said "I, Ray, (his name is Raymond) believe that for myself, interracial marriage is wrong", I would have accepted it, and this thread would never have been posted. He absolutely has every right to feel that interracial marriage is wrong, and say this is his personal feeling for himself. My problem with him is, that he presented his case in such a way, where he acted like he was standing in judgement of the whole world, looking down on all interracial couples, who have chosen happiness with significant others of another race. He said to me, and these were his exact words: "Blacks belong being married to blacks, and whites belong being married to whites". It wasnt an I statement, he was judging the whole world!
Let me put it a different way. Iam Jewish. If Ray was Jewish, and said:" I, Ray, feel that for myself, marrying someone of the same religion is important to avoid problems with religion, and raising children." I totally accept that, and would have nothing to say about it. If however, he said it in the way he did, and said to me, "Mitch, you are Jewish, and you should marry someone who is Jewish, because Jews belong with Jews", I would tell him to go fuck himself. In that case, he is passing judgement on my free will to marry a girl of a different religion, which isnt his damn business! That, precisely is my problem with him. The small mindedness is one thing, but, as I think of it more, and read this thread, the blatant holier than now judgemental attitude displayed by this jerk, acting like God, and passing judgement on how others live their lives, infuriates me to no end! That, specifically, is my problem!
So, I hope I have made myself clear in my position. End of Rant!

Mitch

P'S One more thing to add here. Lime, thank you very much for the insight. My feelings exactly! I agree with you 100%!

 

[kis123]

I look forward to the day when race is something that's filled out on a medical form and nothing more. A day when people are neither proud nor ashamed of their race. A day when interracial marriage becomes so commonplace that the races all get blurred together with one another, giving people one less thing to fight about. 🙂

Come to my city-they're trying to create an entire interracial race of their own around here!! 😀

 

[CaptainQuantum]

I'm white, and I have just recently I think developing a bit of a thing for beautiful black women. It used to be that I'd like a beautiful black woman just as much as a beautiful woman of any other race. But I think I'm actually starting to prefer black women. There's something about a good looking black woman now that gets me like nothing else.

Anyway, as far as interracial relationships/marriages I had a question: has anyone else ever noticed that for every white man/black female couple you see, you probably see at least 20 white female/black male couples? My dad says he heard someone on tv or something saying that its because men are more concerned with how others are going to view their partners than women are. What do you all think about this?

 

[some1somewhere]

Let me put it a different way. Iam Jewish. If Ray was Jewish, and said:" I, Ray, feel that for myself, marrying someone of the same religion is important to avoid problems with religion, and raising children." I totally accept that, and would have nothing to say about it.

I understand that, as that is the reason I look for someone of the similar faith for me as well.

I don't even understand that mindset of one that would exclude one race from making a good mate. Even if one used the excuse that "blacks" are a different than "whites", could not that logic also say Russian "white" is different American "white" as they are too different cultures? So an American "white" male should not marry a Russian "white" female, as they are most likely more different than an American "white" male and a American "black" female? Both ideas are ridiculous.

 

[ticklkitten]

My best friend is half mexican and half Caucasion.... her boyfriend is black. He is a great guy, a fantastic father, has a good job, a nice car and most of all treats her like the Goddess that she is. Really.... how lucky is she!!!?!?? She has a wonderful guy she is attracted to and loves! Who cares what color he is???

 

[CaptainQuantum]

Anyway, as far as interracial relationships/marriages I had a question: has anyone else ever noticed that for every white man/black female couple you see, you probably see at least 20 white female/black male couples? My dad says he heard someone on tv or something saying that its because men are more concerned with how others are going to view their partners than women are. What do you all think about this?

I've been thinking about that previous post I made in this thread, and I don't know if I would want to have a relationship with a black woman, even though I've started to really find them appealing. And for the same reason that I mentioned in my previous post. I don't know if I'd feel like dealing with any negativity I'd get from people for being a bi-racial couple. Knowing myself like I do, I don't know if any other person would be worth that to me. Doesn't sound very romantic I know, but what can I say? Of course I guess you never know what you'd do in certain situations until you're actually in them.

 

[kis123]

I've been thinking about that previous post I made in this thread, and I don't know if I would want to have a relationship with a black woman, even though I've started to really find them appealing. And for the same reason that I mentioned in my previous post. I don't know if I'd feel like dealing with any negativity I'd get from people for being a bi-racial couple. Knowing myself like I do, I don't know if any other person would be worth that to me. Doesn't sound very romantic I know, but what can I say? Of course I guess you never know what you'd do in certain situations until you're actually in them.

Times have changed baby, it has become much more tolerable if not acceptable in today's society. You'll never know what you're in store for until you give something a try. I used to feel the same way until I tried for myself. Race is not an issue with me, but your character and your ability to treat me like the queen I deserve to be treated is.

 

[giantfan121262]

Interracial relationships are much more acceptable today than they were 20 years ago. I have to admit, I had very limited exposure to minorities being from a small town in NJ. It wasn't until I joined the service out of high school that I have been around them. One thing about being in the service, it taught me to be colorblind. That black or hispanic can be the person that saves your life one day. I have no problem with anybody's skin color as long as they are a decent human being. They puit their pants on one leg at a time like the rest of us. They should be given the respect they deserve. There is good and bad in every race, religion, and heritage.

Mitch, you have a valid point. That guy you were complaining about is a Archie Bunker wannabe. Times have changed and her needs to get with it. I hate people who sterotype like that. I know from experience. Being Jewish, I have had people call me cheap because I didn't want to spend money. This guy is pulling the same kind of crap.

 

[Mitchell]

Thank you, giant. Iam Jewish too, as I think I posted earlier in this thread. You mentioned people calling you cheap because you are Jewish. Sigh! What a rude and extremely stereotypical thing to say. I know Jewish people (Myself included when I have it) who love to spend money, contribute to charity, and such. If there is one thing I hate, it's stereotypes, and I had to laugh when you mentioned him being like Archie Bunker. The show itself was interesting and funny, and Carroll O Connor was, in my opinion, one of the greatest actors of all time, but, I would never want to be a guy like Archie, or be friends with someone like him.
Actually, this guy, who is a Lancaster resident his whole life, could really have it turned back in his face. He is, as I've stated on here, nothing but an ignorant, bigoted, moron, for many reasons. Imagine if I stereotyped that everyone in his church, his development where he lives, or the town of Lancaster, were ignorant, bigoted, morons, just because he is? That wouldnt make me sound too intelligent, would it? Or, if I said something to him like:" Your kids shouldnt marry someone who isnt from your church, or from the town on Lancaster, because you have been with your church, or residents of this town, for your whole lives, and you should only stay associated with those people, and not deal with anyone else." That would make me sound very lame, right? Well, this is exactly what this mental case guy is saying, in another way.
Thanks for the feedback, giant. It is appreciated. The more I read the replies to this thread, the more I realize what an uninformed, uneducated, and truly lame person this guy is!

Mitch

 

[CaptainQuantum]

If there is one thing I hate, it's stereotypes, and I had to laugh when you mentioned him being like Archie Bunker. The show itself was interesting and funny, and Carroll O Connor was, in my opinion, one of the greatest actors of all time, but, I would never want to be a guy like Archie, or be friends with someone like him.

This may be off topic, but what made Archie Bunker one of the most brilliantly written tv characters ever was that he wasn't one dimensional. You got the feeling that deep-down, he actually liked the Jeffersons for example, but would never admit it.

 

[amk714]

This may be off topic, but what made Archie Bunker one of the most brilliantly written tv characters ever was that he wasn't one dimensional. You got the feeling that deep-down, he actually liked the Jeffersons for example, but would never admit it.

Yeah, Archie Bunker was a "lovable bigot," if ever there was one. He was definitely an ignorant racist and someone I wouldn't like if he existed in real life, and in fact I'm not a big fan of All in the Family (but it's certainly one of the best TV comedies of all time), but Archie wasn't dangerous either, he just didn't know any better. 😛

I'm happy to see all these posts about race not making a difference. It's nice to know that we here at the TMF are open-minded enough to realize that. 😀

 

[giantfan121262]

Earlier in the thread, Knox intelligently broke dowm the factors which motivate racist behavior, Archie Bunker definitely falls into the category of ignorance. I don't want to pull this futher away from the subject, but what I find interesting is that this chatactar grew up in NYC as a child. One would think that growing up in a big city, you would be more tolerant. I guess mostly it goes to what you are taught in the home.

I think AMK said it best before that it's great that we are able to discuss such a touchy subject without spurring any differences. I think generally, the consensus in uninanamous. That guy is a closed minded, insensitive jerk.

 

[giantfan121262]

Thank you, giant. Iam Jewish too, as I think I posted earlier in this thread. You mentioned people calling you cheap because you are Jewish. Sigh! What a rude and extremely stereotypical thing to say.
Mitch

In all fairness, the comments were done in a kidding type of manner. Nonetheless, it's was still most inappropriate. I hated the comments just the same

 

[Ticklee1973]

WOW, completely small minded individual. Sorry I'm coming into the discussion late, I rarely have time to come here much lately, sniff sniff. I absolutely cannot stand people with this kind of attitude. My ex was a black man and although things didn't work out with him that doesn't make him a bad person or the fact that we fell in love regardless of our race and had three beautiful children. I feel lucky that I don't ever get stares where we live because of my children and never did when me and my ex were together but how ridiculous is it that people still think this way. We are all the same underneath the skin color and it's unfortunate people like this will miss out on some great relationships out there because they are basically judging a book by its cover. Ok, I'll step down now, lol.

Sandee

 

[kcantankerous]

Mutts, lol I'll probably have a hand in creating a mutt one day lol.

 

[kis123]

Mutts, lol I'll probably have a hand in creating a mutt one day lol.

I know you didn't refer to biracial children as "mutts" did you?

I hope you didn't mean to be so incredibly offensive, but if you did, shame on you!

My daughter is a beautiful young lady, not a mixed dog!

You really should consider how your words may affect others before you put them in print on a public website!

 

[amk714]

Hear hear, kis123! I'm with you on this one. 🙂

BTW, I don't know if it makes a difference (I don't think it does, because "mutt" is an offensive term regardless), but knogz happens to be black: http://www.ticklingforum.com/showpost.php?p=805211&postcount=4
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=68308

 

[kis123]

Hear hear, kis123! I'm with you on this one. 🙂

BTW, I don't know if it makes a difference (I don't think it does, because "mutt" is an offensive term regardless), but knogz happens to be black: http://www.ticklingforum.com/showpost.php?p=805211&postcount=4
http://www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?t=68308

I know who he happens to be-I've met him in person. And no, it makes no difference to me at all as the parents of biracial children would also agree with me!

This was at best, a poor choice of words. At worst.....I don't even want to consider!

 

[kcantankerous]

I actually never thought to call a mixed person a mutt until a half black and hispanic girl called herself a mutt. Yeah I suppose I would'nt call someone I didnt know a mutt. But even so mixed denotes that someone isn't one race or the other anyways, would you perfer the word halfbreed. Or maybe black and hispanic. Would you fill it in as other if your doing a job application? I definately could see why some would be offended though. Suppose I should be more politically correct. So from know on I don't want to be called african or african american, because as I see it, I'm not from africa at all. Even if my ancestors were from africa I want no relation to them whatsoever. Wow did I ever get off track.

 

[MAJ0718]

Okay, here is my two cents' worth of comment to this thread: There is no such thing as interracial dating or marriage unless a human, any human, dates any member of another species, i.e. sheep, dog, horse, you get the idea. When you deal with humanity, you have only one race, no matter where the person is from, what religion is practiced, or even skin color or sexual orientation. Thank you......

 

[Red Jester]

Okay, here is my two cents' worth of comment to this thread: There is no such thing as interracial dating or marriage unless a human, any human, dates any member of another species, i.e. sheep, dog, horse, you get the idea. When you deal with humanity, you have only one race, no matter where the person is from, what religion is practiced, or even skin color or sexual orientation. Thank you......

Thats just dumb. Black and White people are different races. Not in the scientific sense but that is the term used to describe our difference in skin color. Which would make dating someone of a different skin color "inter-racial." Its good to be open minded but don't get overly PC.

 

[Storm_Cat]

I spent the better part of 10 years of my life with a Hispanic girl. I have no regrets about it whatsoever ... well, at least not the part about her being Hispanic ... that wasn't an issue, ... more of a plus actually ... but after time other things became issues, and eventually those killed our marriage.

 

[MAJ0718]

Black and White people are different races. Not in the scientific sense but that is the term used to describe our difference in skin color.

What I am trying to convey is the only race that comes to question is the HUMAN race. The terms "black" and "white" are just names of colors, and are used to seperate one people from another due to the color of skin. It's not being "PC", but as a natural fact....