Is anyone here uncomfortable with tickle porn or regular porn?

[GoForTheLaugh]

Question: Is anyone here uncomfortable with tickle porn or regular porn?

I have divided feelings on the subject.

First, I have a female friend who has been a high-priced sex worker exclusive to the same wealthy older men. I also know two gay men in their 60s who were "husslers" (the word they use) in the 1960s and 1970s. Business was business, plain and simple.

On the other hand, while these three have faired well, I know that the sex and porn industry can exploit the innocent and is responsible, whether directly or indirectly, for many drug- and AIDS-related deaths. A number of the stars, particularly those from abusive backgrounds or with addictions, need real friends who care and professional counseling/intervention, not gigs. I also believe that sex workers need strong unions to stand up for their rights.

Second, if I said I had never bought a magazine or a video and gotten off, I would be lying.

On the other hand, I don't like porn all that much and am drawn to it more when I am stressed out or feeling sad than when I am actually horny. When I want sex, the real thing is best.

Third, I am a staunch feminist, and even being on this board, where women are allowed to put themselves in a subordinate position as subs/lees for men, is difficult for me.

On the other hand, isn't true sexual liberation about women doing what feels right to them? If a woman identifies as a sub, doesn't she have the right to be one? This is a sticky issue. I will voice in on the side of women choosing what feels right to them even though I personally feel as if I am betraying the principles of feminism. I have a fetish, and I cannot deny someone else's right to engage in hers.

Fourth, does indulging in too much porn make real relationships, which are about flesh and blood issues and cannot boast perfect sex every time, more difficult? I have no idea, but my instincts tell me it may be so. That is the main reason I limit myself.

On the other hand, don't people with social and relationship issues have them before they overindulge in porn? Isn't overindulgence in porn a symptom of a greater issue and not a cause of other symptoms? Again, I just don't know.

So, is anyone else here uncomfortable with tickle porn or regular porn?

 

[Red Jester]

I'm not all that fond of it. I've watched tickle porn and have found it entertaining but to me tickling falls under the "turn on" category rather than full blown fetish. As such I've never got off on just watching someone do anything. But I can't say it makes me uncomfortable, being in this community has taught me that differnt people are aroused by different things.

Also, whats wrong with girls willing to be tickled? =D Doesn't your preference for m/m constitude a man being submissive?

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Also, whats wrong with girls willing to be tickled? =D Doesn't your preference for m/m constitude a man being submissive?

Again, I said that I voice in on the side of women choosing whatever sexual role they wish. I am a man. I have no right to tell a woman what she should do.

It is just hard for me to think of a woman submitting to a man. If the man also submits to the woman on occasion, though, then it would seem to be a relationship of equality.

Perhaps there are sub/dom relationships where the women is the only submissive one, and she feels that this is what her wiring is about. Who am I to judge?

I am on a discussion board, however, and I feel obliged to be honest when something makes me uncomfortable. I have tried my best to present both sides of my four points.

If, once again, I have written something offensive, please understand that I am asking questions about a topic for which I have no clear opinion. I apologize in advance if I wrote something inappropriate (although I must admit that I do not think I have).

 

[Red Jester]

Its cool. I can't really relate because god's cursed me with a crippling case of apathy. As such I'm not really opinionated or passionate about anything. Except ramen instant noodles, which I have an undieing love for.

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Unfortunately, I am the opposite. I need a good case of apathy, as I am too passionate about most things. 😀

 

[The_Musician]

Can't Stand Porn In Tickling

I Can't Stand Porn In Tickling .this Fetish And Or Kink Should Be Pure And Not Mudied Up By This. There Are Enough Porn Sites Out There And There Not Hard To Find.there Are To Few Tickling Sites So Thats My Opinion On The Nasty Matter.

 

[unit5610]

Many moons ago it was hard (at least for me) to find tickling without porn. I rented some material to watch but I felt really guilty about it and had no interest in the porn stuff. Thankfully there are many other choices now, like this great community.

 

[Amnesiac]

I Love Porn

Looooooooooooooove it, looooooooove it, loooooooooooooooooooove it!

That said...

Porn is NOT for everyone! Some people are simply more comfortable with a more toned-down lifestyle; nothing wrong with it at all. The problem is political institutions like to think these things can be manipulated by influence: conservatives like to think everyone can be that way, and liberals like to think that all people are swingers repressed by the establishment. Neither is true.

The porn industry has always been risky because of the social pressure on sexual expression; because of this, modern entertainers have had to take funding from shady financiers, and they've had to draw their talent from the dysfunctional population. I have no doubt that there are "normal" people who would like to do porn for a living, but who wouldn't want to put up with scorn and deviant fans. Maybe one day...

The sex industry, on the other hand, has always blossomed because it gets around the INCONVENIENT social regulations on sex throughout history. If sex wasn't hard to get willingly, prostitution would actually suffer.

On the other hand, I don't like porn all that much and am drawn to it more when I am stressed out or feeling sad than when I am actually horny. When I want sex, the real thing is best.

I can't think of anybody, myself included, who would disagree. However, sex in society (even the U.S.) is not easy to get because it requires context for most people. Most women won't even entertain it without the unwritten assumption that a relationship is involved...

does indulging in too much porn make real relationships, which are about flesh and blood issues and cannot boast perfect sex every time, more difficult? I have no idea, but my instincts tell me it may be so. Isn't overindulgence in porn a symptom of a greater issue and not a cause of other symptoms?

Real relationships can be as exciting as a 75,000 foot skydive...but you can rarely predict WHEN that will happen or what the interim will be like. Real relationships are complicated enough, but social and cultural imperatives have made the process so much more complex that a relationship may as well be a Senate Negotiation where you can't win without a little fudging. Guys like me decide that the game is not worth the candle, and that no relationship is worth the fucking politics you have to go through to get it. For some of us, we've been socially eccentric our whole lives and find this interactive bureaucracy to be too much hassle. Unfortunately these same qualities make us susceptible to warping from exposure to porn, but mostly only those too unstable to begin with.

You can't avoid flesh and blood issues, but you SHOULDN'T have to deal with the protocol burdening it.

Third, I am a staunch feminist, and even being on this board, where women are allowed to put themselves in a subordinate position as subs/lees for men, is difficult for me.

Heres what happened in the sexual liberation movement: women KNEW that they were being oppressed sexually...they fought for recognition and won...said "now it's over"...found out that some women LIKE a submissive sexuality...and then said "WTF?!" Because women had been subordinated for so long, it became a common assumption that submissive personalities/sexuality was CAUSED by the system; when theyfound out that that wasn't necessarily true, they figured that they HAD to be people so victimized by the system that they adopted it. The thing of it is, they WEREN'T wrong...these personalities can be a sign of ritualistic abuse found in patriarchal societies with tough gender codes...but not ALL of them. If there was a way of separating the wheat from the chaff, the number of authentically submissive personalities to the number of maladaptively abused ones, things would be less problematic.

On the other hand, isn't true sexual liberation about women doing what feels right to them? If a woman identifies as a sub, doesn't she have the right to be one?

Right. We just have to be careful that women who do so do so because they WANT to and not because of years of systematic abuse. Besides, think of how many MEN like to be submissive! The same provisos for women run for men.

 

[Ticklemmmeeeeee]

There are times when i love watching f/f porn but as soon as the state of arousal (so to speak) is over, the porn gets turned off immediately as I become completely disinterested...so i guess I never "watch" it but I have "used" it. Now the m/f porn does nothing for me, I love the female body but honestly I cannot stand seeing even beautiful men naked unless it is the man I am with...I think that is pretty normal for females though. Just my thoughts.
~tm

 

[TklshRbn]

I have to be veeeerrrrrrrrrryyyyyy careful about what I look at or read, because 1) I am very visually oriented, and beautiful nudes grab my attention, regardless of the sexual content of their actions; and, 2) since female arousal and orgasm are completely missing from my marital life, I find myself strongly attracted to those aspects of feminine sexuality. Once I start looking at/reading about that, I can't stop. So, to repeat myself, see my sig.

 

[steph]

I don't watch much of either. I'd rather "be the ball."
It's no fun watching other people have fun, unless it's someone I like and know personally. Just my two cents...

And WTF is up with the whole facial cumshot thing? It's degrading, it looks like crap and ruins your hair and makeup...Absolutely nasty... 🙁
XOXO

 

[Texas_Tickle]

I personally think the whole "vibrator scene" is a little redundant and overdone. Now don't get me wrong, I don't mind a vib scene here-or-there, but when it gets to the point where half of the video is nothing but a vib scene, then it becomes a little old.

If I wanted to watch somebody getting off on vibrators, then I would have purchased a vibrator video.

 

[luvn2laf]

Two of a kind?

Its cool. I can't really relate because god's cursed me with a crippling case of apathy. As such I'm not really opinionated or passionate about anything. Except ramen instant noodles, which I have an undieing love for.

Red - I read your post and couldn't believe my eyes. I too am rarely opinionated, but ever since my collage days when all I had to cook with was a hot pot, I have been in love with ramen noodles. Maruchan brand is my favorite, I must admit. 🙂

As for the topic of the quote, I have only ever seen one tickling video that had any porn in it. I generally have no interest in it, so I don't watch it. It doesn't do anything for me, but if it does something for someone else, more power to 'em. I don't hate it or resent it at all, but I don't like or endorse it, either. It's just there. Whatever floats your boat, as long as no one gets hurt and no children are involved.

 

[lk70]

I don't have a particular "problem" with porn in a political sense, but 99% of what I've seen (which isn't much), is gross. Steph pretty well summed it up- what she said, along with the charming shots of "his" slamming "hers" is enough to put me off my feed.

Also agree with Steph- I'd rather "be the ball" - but I don't want to watch an instant replay of that either!

 

[AquaFeline]

Question: Is anyone here uncomfortable with tickle porn or regular porn?

I have divided feelings on the subject.

First, I have a female friend who has been a high-priced sex worker exclusive to the same wealthy older men. I also know two gay men in their 60s who were "husslers" (the word they use) in the 1960s and 1970s. Business was business, plain and simple.

On the other hand, while these three have faired well, I know that the sex and porn industry can exploit the innocent and is responsible, whether directly or indirectly, for many drug- and AIDS-related deaths. A number of the stars, particularly those from abusive backgrounds or with addictions, need real friends who care and professional counseling/intervention, not gigs. I also believe that sex workers need strong unions to stand up for their rights.

Until sex work is legal it will be a tad difficult to form unions. Porn actors have tried multiple times to form a union but I don't think it has gone through yet: http://www.aegis.com/news/ap/2004/AP040462.html Maybe what's really needed is to form a worker-owned cooperative.

Second, if I said I had never bought a magazine or a video and gotten off, I would be lying.

On the other hand, I don't like porn all that much and am drawn to it more when I am stressed out or feeling sad than when I am actually horny. When I want sex, the real thing is best.

Strangely enough, I also find porn more relaxing than arousing. When I'm stressed I like to curl up with one of them pornographic japanese dating games.

Third, I am a staunch feminist, and even being on this board, where women are allowed to put themselves in a subordinate position as subs/lees for men, is difficult for me.

On the other hand, isn't true sexual liberation about women doing what feels right to them? If a woman identifies as a sub, doesn't she have the right to be one? This is a sticky issue. I will voice in on the side of women choosing what feels right to them even though I personally feel as if I am betraying the principles of feminism. I have a fetish, and I cannot deny someone else's right to engage in hers.

It can feel like betrayal, but it's not. I've also fought with the same feelings. However, both women and men should have the choice of whether to relate to others in an equal, submissive, or dominant way.

Fourth, does indulging in too much porn make real relationships, which are about flesh and blood issues and cannot boast perfect sex every time, more difficult? I have no idea, but my instincts tell me it may be so. That is the main reason I limit myself.

It depends on your ability to seperate fantasy from reality. I think the biggest issue for most people is getting an unrealistic expectation of how women should look. Real people without a camera crew and liberal amounts of makeup just don't look like that. 🙂 Plus there's not a lot of variety in how women's body shapes, it seems, even though with all that bloody makeup you'd think they'd be able to make anyone look good. On the other hand, I'm sure there are a lot of people who hadn't seriously considered some kinds of sexual activity before they watched someone else doing it and then had a grand ol' time later.

On the other hand, don't people with social and relationship issues have them before they overindulge in porn? Isn't overindulgence in porn a symptom of a greater issue and not a cause of other symptoms? Again, I just don't know.

Yes, overindulgence is probably a symptom and not a cause. However, unrealistic expectations might cause relationship problems, and those expectations might come from multiple places, including not seperating porn from reality.

So, is anyone else here uncomfortable with tickle porn or regular porn?

I'm not uncomfortable with the concept or execution of porn but I'm dissatisfied both with the uniformity and the sleaziness of the majority of porn.

As an analogy, sex-oriented stores that primarily sell lingerie and/or sex toys seem to be more oriented towards women and couples, and that seems to make things more comfortable -- brighter and cleaner and more spacious. They deal with sex in a very matter of fact way. They also keep regular business hours (grr.) Places that primarily sell pornography seem to be dirty and cramped and sleazy and not well kept up and tend to be open at odd hours (thereby being unrespectable because you have to go there in the middle of the night when no one's watching.) Maybe when we have more porn targeted at women or couples and there are stores that make you feel welcome instead of like some kind of a pervert, porn will become more acceptable to the masses, just as sex toys have.