Is it a problem if I do more single-model shoots?

[The Last Laugh]

Hello everyone!

Most of my videos feature teams of models. Usually two, sometimes three or even four. As long as the models are reasonable ticklers I prefer working with teams and let them do most of the work. I don’t have to worry about appearing in my own videos, it frees me to operate the camcorder in a more dynamic way, and the playful interaction between the models can add a lot to a video’s appeal. Not to mention that there are things the models can do that I can’t, like straddling each other, tickling with the tongue or simply having their face appear on camera (which allows for a wider variety of positions) So I try to form teams as often as possible.

However, in recent times this has proven to be more difficult than usual. Due to various sets of circumstances I’ve found myself working with more models who don’t have ticklish friends interested in joining them, forcing me to do the tickling myself.

Sometimes I can find partners for these solo models, but not all of them are interested in teaming up with a stranger, and organizing shoots with people who don’t even know each other can be a scheduling nightmare sometimes. It is often a lot simpler to just do a solo shoot. Besides, the longer it takes to do a shoot because I’m trying to find a second model the more likely the first model is to change her mind and drop out of the project.

Problem is, while solo shoots are simpler to organize, and usually cheaper, I’m assuming that a lot of potential customers prefer having two or more models working together. I feel that way myself, having a strong preference for F/F tickling. Not everyone likes seeing the producer do the tickling himself, even if you don’t get to see his ugly mug (speaking about myself, here). I guess people's preferences about this issue vary quite a bit, but I can't help but think most my customers prefer when I do F/F. So I’m worried that if I do too many solo (M/F) shoots it might hurt my sales,. If that’s the case I guess I should work harder on forming teams, despite the downsides of such a strategy.

Any thoughts about this? Thing is, not so long ago I found myself doing three solo shoots in a row, and I just did another one after one of the models pulled out at the last minute. I don’t know why it’s been happening so often lately. Now I’m worried about how these videos will be received when the time comes to release them. Am I justified in being concerned over this?

 

[arcstudent]

Personally I get involved with the tickling aspect of it. M/F, F/F, FF/F, whatever it may be, I enjoy the clip. What would be a potential advantage to this is those who are interested in a change of pace would be happy to see solo shoots between the team shoots. It also gives a means of profit for the in between time when looking for model teams.

 

[Horatio]

Thanks for your post! Personally, I despise seeing any males in my videos. I can certainly understand the economics of your situation; it must be much easier/cheaper to shoot one girl.

Also, unless the producer is male-model handsome (nothing personal!) I would think it might disappoint the M/F fans as well.

So - my opinion - do it only if you must. And congratulation, you have built a great "brand" in your industry.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Since you are new to producing videos maybe ask some of the seasoned producers for advice on what they think.

I've been producing and selling tickling videos since 2002. There are currently 604 clips on my tickling clip store, plus an additional 230 on my foot clip store. I do still have a lot to learn but I'm hardly new to producing videos.

Or maybe you were just being sarcastic? I can't tell.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Personally I get involved with the tickling aspect of it. M/F, F/F, FF/F, whatever it may be, I enjoy the clip. What would be a potential advantage to this is those who are interested in a change of pace would be happy to see solo shoots between the team shoots. It also gives a means of profit for the in between time when looking for model teams.

To tell the truth, having a temporary source of profit in between videos with teams isn't an issue. While I don't do shoots all that often I still tend to accumulate more footage than I can process. I currently have enough for over 12 new series. So doing solo shoots isn't necessary for keeping sales going. I can just process and release some of the raw footage I have in reserve.

I do solo shoots because it feels like a waste not to work with models who may have good tickling potential just because I'm having a hard time finding them partners.

 

[The Last Laugh]

Thanks for your post! Personally, I despise seeing any males in my videos. I can certainly understand the economics of your situation; it must be much easier/cheaper to shoot one girl.

Also, unless the producer is male-model handsome (nothing personal!) I would think it might disappoint the M/F fans as well.

So - my opinion - do it only if you must. And congratulation, you have built a great "brand" in your industry.

Well, in reality, doing solo shoots may not be that much cheaper. Yes, I only have to pay one model, but F/F clips tend to sell better, so it's possible that, in the end, team clips turn out to be the better value. That's what I'm concerned about.

No offense taken. I've no intention of imposing my face to my poor customers. Even having my hands/arms appear on camera isn't something I'm especially thrilled about. I certainly understand people who aren't fans of M/F, even with a faceless tickler. This is only a personal preference, you understand, but I find it very hard to enjoy a clip if the tickling is done by a man.

 

[daddy]

My opinion is that as long as the video involves good tickling and a reactive lee then all is well ;-)

peace out,
daddy

 

[turtleboy]

Well, in reality, doing solo shoots may not be that much cheaper. Yes, I only have to pay one model, but F/F clips tend to sell better, so it's possible that, in the end, team clips turn out to be the better value. That's what I'm concerned about.

In my experience, there is no almost no difference in sales between M/F and F/F clips...it's only my experience of course and my customers may not be representative of the whole, but I find that the models, the type of outfits, bondage scenarios, and other clips I have released recently all have more impact sales than whether or not they are F/F or M/F. I enjoy shooting F/F but it costs twice as much as a solo shoot and is generally more time-consuming. Half the F/F shoots that I arrange don't take place because of one or the other model postponing last minute, and so I tend to reserve them for specific combinations of models now!

 

[Deleted member 34073]

I actually prefer 1 ler. You can feel which spots are more ticklish because they can only focus on one area at a time. If anything I like one ler and multiple lees the best.

 

[The Last Laugh]

In my experience, there is no almost no difference in sales between M/F and F/F clips

I wish it were the same for me. It would makes things so much simpler. But my customers seem to be rather fond of the playful interaction between the models. Also, working with two models often means two different ticklees (and thus more variety), which can make a series more appealing to customers overall. Not to mention that a team of models can do stuff that many of my customers like quite a bit, like tongue tickling. I haven't released that many "Myself/F" clips so far, but what I've noticed suggests that footage featuring teams is more valuable to my little business. But I can see how it might be different for other producers.

I enjoy shooting F/F but it costs twice as much as a solo shoot and is generally more time-consuming. Half the F/F shoots that I arrange don't take place because of one or the other model postponing last minute

That is all quite true and I experience the same problems myself on a regular basis. I have to say that it's actually kind of comforting to hear other producers talk about problems similar to mine. I mean, it's good to get feedback from people who understand what it's like.

 

[The Last Laugh]

I actually prefer 1 ler. You can feel which spots are more ticklish because they can only focus on one area at a time. If anything I like one ler and multiple lees the best.

Actually that's not quite what I meant. If I understsand correctly you're saying you prefer F/F or M/F (one tickler) to FM/F (two ticklers). I understand your preference and your reason for it. But my intention in my original message was to compare a shoot in which I do the tickling myself (M/F) to a shoot in which a model does it, without my participation (F/F). It wasn't about the number of ticklers. I do appreciate the feedback, though.