Is it just me? Can anyone else relate?

[vladtickleman22]

The prostitute comment was a joke...

I kinda thought my response was clearly taken as a continuation (probably butchered that word) of the joke.

 

[P[a]pi]

I'm with you on better bondage, and yes some, hell most, models fake it.

I'm not with you on non-con or the idea that the more you tie and tickle a chick the less ticklish she becomes.

 

[Wolf]

Well, if it's simple as that...

Perhaps the answer lies with the amateur video with bad quality of the guy who has a girlfriend who surprises her with tickling. I don't know any of relationship where a guy has to tell his girlfriend what he is going to do beforehand and sign a contract.

Why don't you just get yourself a girlfriend and do it? Because being in a relationship means you can do whatever you want with the other person...

There isn't a facepalm icon big enough, really...

 

[Redmage]

Well, you've got your practical problems and your ethical problems.

Ethically, there's no way this is right. "A few post production dollars" doesn't change that. Suppose you groped a woman on a bus and then said "I'll give you $100 to just go about your business." Even if she took the money, it wouldn't change the fact that you're a pervert who gropes women on buses, and it wouldn't change the fact that you assaulted her. Essentially you're paying her off to keep her from going to the police. That doesn't make groping women on buses right.

Practically, this would never work over the long term. Sooner or later, a model would either turn down your hush money, or take it and go to the police anyway. And long before that, word would get around among women who model professionally and you'd have a damned hard time finding decent models willing to work for you. Plus you'd be making life harder for decent, ethical producers who don't hand their models something they didn't sign up for.

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

There's no such thing as non consensual tickling!! She won't be ticklish if she doesn't feel your touch. Non consensual tickling seems like a term invented to assist idiots that don't know what they're doing in getting off to something that is quite consensual!! It's trickery. To get the kind of reactions you seek requires a certain trust and comfort in being vulnerable that isn't obtained by surfing clips4sale.com.

With regards to the media... put yourself in the bondage, or shoes, or socks or nylons, or pantyhose of the women whom are involved in entertaining us. What would go through your mind when a doofus in a scream mask or batman mask or any kind of odd mask starts to tickle you. What if the guy completely disregards you or regards you so much it makes you think before getting tickled, but choose to anyway because it's money and you need it. What if the guy has no skills whatsoever. What if you're told to act ticklish because people pay for it... where's the sexiness in those situations... where's the respect. Best foot tickling ever!! Where is the tickling. It sure isn't happening because the women were aware they were going to get tickled.

 

[rhiannon]

There's no such thing as non consensual tickling!! She won't be ticklish if she doesn't feel your touch. Non consensual tickling seems like a term invented to assist idiots that don't know what they're doing in getting off to something that is quite consensual!! It's trickery. To get the kind of reactions you seek requires a certain trust and comfort in being vulnerable that isn't obtained by surfing clips4sale.com.

You do understand what 'non consensual tickling' means, right? Like that you are tickling someone against their will? So, why wouldn't there be such a thing as non consensual tickling?

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

If she's ticklish, consent has been given whether or not there's an admittance. Perhaps people like to abuse the trust or are too wrapped around the alleged abuse that happens when the tickling goes too far and is traumatizing... I wouldn't call that non consensual... that seems like something not even Wikipedia can offer a novice bdsm person. However, I still question whether that person really wants it to stop, because after all, that point has happened and that person is still ticklish.

Maybe there's a new paraphilia out there where people like being treated badly despite it causing them harm and making a viewer upset... oh, wait... that's been happening since humanity has been!! The constant complaining and the reliving of it or debating it might just be a will for it because there's something to feel.

 

[rhiannon]

I am not sure if I understand you correctly! Are you saying it is always consentual tickling as soon as someone is ticklish? You don't think the ticklish person has to give permission in a way of saying 'Yes, you can tickle me'?

That's how I understand you! Correct me if I am wrong, please. (Please, tell me I'm wrong!)

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

You're so wrong you're right!! At least with that tidbit. Yes... it's always consensual if that person is ticklish. The yes you can tickle me is communicated much more subtly and seemingly misunderstood. Because of the sexual taboo and double standards the art doesn't work that direct.

 

[rhiannon]

it's always consensual if that person is ticklish

Sorry, but

The yes you can tickle me is communicated much more subtly and seemingly misunderstood.

In a context where the ticklee knows he/she is going to be tickled and agrees to it and then says 'no stop', okay, agreed! But if the ticklee is tied down and thinks something else than tickling is going to happen and then says 'STOP, don't tickle me', that means stop! And that would be non consensual tickling.

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

don't do what that lee thinks is going to happen next... do something else and then do that other thing later when she isn't thinking about it😀

 

[rhiannon]

Only do what the lee told you you CAN do!

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

is that really what the lee wants... or what mothers tell their sons.

 

[rhiannon]

It's not up to the ler to determine what the lee wants and doesn't want. The ler needs to respect the wishes and limits of the lee.

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

I agree with the respect part!! Women are sexual predators with an enormous appetite and its gotta be respected. There are lots of lers that respect the wishes and limits of the lee... in fact... so much so, that they buy fake tickling clips!! They don't even bother tickling women.

 

[rhiannon]

Shambles...Shambles, is that you??

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

No. I've seen that troll's posts and he has no skills. He puts the ills in them and kills thrills. Plus you haven't crossed his bridge nearly as much as mine in a single thread, so stop the character assassination or I'll block you and charge a troll toll. Stay on the topic here and continue flirting with me in private, or act like you don't want it and leave me be!!

 

[Dussicar]

A decent point, however....the pimp isn't Columbo or David Caruso from CSI: Miami.

How would the pimp find the person who paid cash for a fly by night motel room without a car to verify plates?

Also, why would a pimp risk the consequences of killing someone in order to seek revenge for a tickled hooker who is in an illegal practice anyway?

You'd be surprised.

Actually, you answered your own question. Many pimps believe in the time-honoured "street justice" approach to dealing with problems.

Depending on where you live, Johns are just as accountable as pimps and prostitutes in the eyes of the justice system. This kind of rules out any chance of legal protection.

These people ARE capable of finding you if the mood hits them right.

Imagine waking up at 2 A.M. to see a gun pointed at your face, taken downstairs to your own kitchen by five very large and violent individuals, tied up to a chair and have them work on your left or right arm with a scalpel and then have them peel off the skin from your shoulder to your fingertips like a banana.

Many people don't really hear about stuff like that in the news. It happens though.

Some pimps are girl-beating jokes. Some are sadistic psychopaths.

 

[sasaxrah]

What you have, and what I'm sure plenty of people here share, is an impossible-to-realize fantasy. You can't ever get what you're looking for and be ethically clean.

So yeah, you can complain that you can't find what you want because producers here aren't douchebags. But there are plenty of non-con stories out there on the interwebs. That's something, you just have to use your imagination a little more.

As a consolation, at least your impossible-to-realize fantasy can be acted out in a fictional way. There are plenty of people who are into crazy things that don't exist (like unicorns) who are just shit out of luck there.

 

[Dussicar]

There are plenty of people who are into crazy things that don't exist (like unicorns) who are just shit out of luck there.

WHAT???

Unicorns DO exist, you lying bitch!

YOU LYING...LYING.......LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Redmage]

If she's ticklish, consent has been given whether or not there's an admittance.

What. Utter. Bullshit.

Congratulations - you've inspired me to profanity. That very seldom happens. But the idea that "she wants it even though she won't admit it" is the rapist's favorite cliche.

If someone tells you "no," or even if he or she says nothing, you don't get to assume consent just because the person is ticklish. Ticklishness is a physiological reaction. Consent is a decision. You might as well say that everyone who feels pain is a masochist.

I sincerely hope that it takes nothing more than a few good slaps from the women you put your hands on to teach you this, because the alternative is jail time.

 

[Bugman]

Anyone else here reminded of NonConTickler?

 

[AngelOfDarkness]

Anyone else here reminded of NonConTickler?

I am.

 

[rhiannon]

Anyone else here reminded of NonConTickler?

Doesn't he complain why women don't want him? Don't think it goes together, he would have to think women want him although they say no!

 

[Ttothe11thpower]

no usually means yes... it's really just a matter of not now. Take into consideration how the no is said and why it's said. For many women, how they're perceived is a life/death matter and they will act like they don't want it in the public, but the back door is totally unlocked, so to speak. Or if that back door happens to be locked sometimes, which it totally can be, break in and see what happens. Wait to eject from rejection.

Some of you men should try it... you wouldn't be angry and waste time in e-slandering. No has you afraid and treating it with that utmost respect, while also envious of it. A Busey-ism for NO is Needs Optimism or in the case of sexual relationships in terms of game: Needs Offense.