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john lennon would have been 65

isabeau

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john lennon my absolute favorite beatle would have been 65 today. i wonder if he would still have been creating music, how would he look? would he and yoko still be together? a very talented man who was cut down brutally way before his time. how does that beatle song go? is it when i'm 64 or 65? i forget. imagine john 65 years old. i bet he would have looked every bit as good now as he did the day he died. to me he was the most talented of the beatles, i know paul is also but i personally preferred johns style of music.

rest in peace john imagine ....

isabeau :smilelove
 
John Lennon was definitely very talented. Some of his solo stuff is rightly regarded as some of the best popular music ever. He was the most talented of the Beatles and wrote many of their most defining songs.

Unfortunately, he became an egotist near the end of his life, and ironically, a nutcase fan of his decided to "fix" that problem. It was sad that Lennon died so young, but he managed to alienate a lot of his friends and family before he passed on.
 
MrMacphisto said:
Unfortunately, he became an egotist near the end of his life, and ironically, a nutcase fan of his decided to "fix" that problem. It was sad that Lennon died so young, but he managed to alienate a lot of his friends and family before he passed on.

He was a bit of an eccentric, like most artists are. But I think he would have changed for the better (and maybe already was) had he not been killed, unfortunately we'll never know.
 
thanks for that link and i agree we will never know what he would have become. if anyone was the egotist it was yoko. she is the one who alienated them both from his friends and his oldest son.

isabeau

oo my mistake he wouldnt have turned 65 today its either this sunday or the previous. and intesting picture.
 
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I have long believed that Paul McCartney was the better composer of the two, but Lennon the more original. In McCartney's work you perceive all the other musical styles that influenced him, classical, jazz, blues, ragtime, old-fashioned music hall tunes, etc. Lennon by his own account never drew on anything but straight rock and roll, but when it was processed and charged by his own unique personality, it came out in a form no one had ever heard before. This is somewhat oversimplified, but it seems to fit the facts. The most enlightening thing I ever read on the subject was Lennon's famous Playboy interview in which he went through the Beatle catalog, song by song, and revealed who wrote what. (As far as I'm aware, McCartney only disputes him on one tune, In My Life.)
 
Brilliant musician.... still missed greatly 🙁 I really miss George, too :cry1:
 
bumping this thread up again. one of the greatest modern musicians of our day and he deserves recognition on the day he would have become 65,a turning point in anyones life. and to think a beatle would be 65 wow. tomorrow would have been his birthday . i do hope a few more people respond to this post he deserves it.

isabeau
 
Ignatz ,as Usual, hits it square on the head...

Ignatz said:
I have long believed that Paul McCartney was the better composer of the two, but Lennon the more original. In McCartney's work you perceive all the other musical styles that influenced him, classical, jazz, blues, ragtime, old-fashioned music hall tunes, etc. Lennon by his own account never drew on anything but straight rock and roll, but when it was processed and charged by his own unique personality, it came out in a form no one had ever heard before. This is somewhat oversimplified, but it seems to fit the facts. The most enlightening thing I ever read on the subject was Lennon's famous Playboy interview in which he went through the Beatle catalog, song by song, and revealed who wrote what. (As far as I'm aware, McCartney only disputes him on one tune, In My Life.)

McCartneys songs could be whistled; (try whistling I Am The Walrus), John's talent, aside from flat-assed "Blow The Speakers Out & Be Done W/ It " Rock n Roll, was that he was a WORDSMITH...Double Entendres, Puns, Puzzles, and EVERY Turn Of A Phrase you could think of...and he could write as well; Paul was the Tunesmith...jazz, Ragtime etc....they complimented eachother so well.
Now add to the mix a rockabilly - religious indian mystic w/ a heart of gold on lead guitar AND a sad-eyed basset hound Drummer w/ a sense of Humor rivaling his bandmates along w/ a photogenic Mug for the Movie camera ............
.........& PRESTO!!!!!
THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH to people who went to school back in the Johnson administration. :veryhappy

Jesus, Those were the days!!!
BUG :cool2:
 
John, Paul and George were faithful husbands

051008 TMF John Lennon would have been 65

One thing I admire about John Lennon was that he was so devoted to his wife. At one point in the mid-seventies, she kicked him out for some reason. She arranged for him to have the companionship of a much younger, prettier woman so he wouldn't be lonely. He ate his heart out for Yoko and never stopped begging to get back with her. I think she put him through that for about 18 months. I don't understand what he saw in that woman, but I do admire the depth of his feeling and his loyalty. I think it is interesting that John, Paul and George, even though they were rich and famous and could have lived philandering lives like so many other celebrities, choose instead to be devoted husbands. I don't remember about Ringo, perhaps he was, too.

Fred46
 
i agree fred but when true love is present beauty is in the eye of the beholder. and buggy i can whistle i am the walrus wanna hear?

isabeau :bouncybou
 
I was brought up on the Beatles and remember being in shock when I was 9 or 10 and my brother told me that they were breaking up...it was like a part of my childhood ended. My favorite songs are largely John Lennon ones, but all four of them produced great material. My personal favorite Beatle was actually George...I loved his Beatles tunes and also enjoyed a lot of his solo music even though it was uneven in terms of quality. Plus George just seemd like a real cool guy. It was sad when he passed away, too.
As far as John goes, my guess is that he'd be pretty low profile if he were around now, maybe producing a song for someone else here and there or doing some sort of an album every 5 to 10 years.
I was doing a radio show at college when word came across the teletype machine around midnight that he had been shot...I'll never forget that...I played Beatles/Lennon tunes until the station shut down at 2:00 am.
 
yoko said in that article thats posted here on the thread that john would be a computer geek today. go look at the article, shows what john might have looked like today

isabeau
 
Lennon would have been 65 tomorrow, isabeau. I never forget his birthday because he shares the same birthday as my estranged father, who was also born 10-9 40 and turns 65 tomorrow. John Lennon was a brilliant musician whose songs were at times very complex, and could be somber. I would say that many of his tunes, even ones that were solo, and not written as a Beatle, are timeless classics, especially songs like "Imagine". Some of my favorite Beatles songs are ones written, and harmonized by Lennon. I love "Help", and "We Can Work It Out", how Mccartney is singing "We Can Work It Out", while John sings the middle going :"Life is Very Short, and There's no Time, for Fussing and Fighting, my friend".
One final thought on Lennon. His death is not only a tradegy because he died so young, and was taken from us so violently, but it also silenced forever the possibility of a Beatles reunion. I truly believe, if Lennon had lived,that someday, like all broken musical groups, the Beatles would have reunited for a surprise concert. At the Simon and Garfunkel reunion concert in NY in 1981, Paul Simon discussed this point, and his own reunion with Garfunkel, stating: "There are only two big reunions possible, (Being he and Garfunkel, and the Beatles) and now one of them cant happen. (Due to Lennon's murder) and I think they probably would have done it too, eventually"
So, Happy Birthday John. You might have passed 25 years ago, but you are still alive in our hearts, and your music lives on in the world, and always will.

Mitch
 
Random thoughts about Johnny

Happy Birthday, John

Hmmmm. You can whistle just as many John Lennon songs. "Girl" is a pretty expansive melody. So is "Good Night". McCartney could be totally raucous like "Helter Skelter" or screaming "Long Tall Sally". Lennon could give "Julia", "Imagine", "Beautiful Boy" (a totally whistle-able tune). Ok, some of his melodies tend to sit on one note as the chords change (Help, for instance, I Am The Walrus), but not all. Anyway, a tune you can whistle isn't (to me) the ultimate measure of a composition's worth.

Lennon also was WAY more likely to experiment with odd time signatures than McCartney. And Lennon chord changes and McCartney chord changes (and Harrison's too) are all about equal in my book-all three were unorthodox and original......and the songs are so well written, that you don't even notice it usually! It sounds so simple and perfect, as if it HAD to be that way!

Lennon played the Django Rheinhardt-style guitar solo in "Honey Pie" (in one take no less!), which shows he was conversant with jazz styles as well. But I do think McCartney was the all around best musician, no doubt. His guitar playing, totally underrated. Taxman guitar solo? Wow. Lots of other guitar solos too he doesn't get credit for. (Lennon also played the guitar solos in "You Can't Do That", "Get Back"-great solo, and the first solo in "Long Tall Sally")

I remember when I found out he was shot, the next morning, I was so distraught my mom kept me home from school. It was definitely a dividing line in my life, even though I was only 10. I've always drawn a line in my life: before Lennon was murdered and after.

That really set the tone for the 80's for me. The beginning of an era that in a way hasn't gone away, unfortunately....haha.

As far as John Lennon being an egoist...all I can say is: what person gets that kind of success and DOESN'T turn into Michael Jackson or Fat Elvis or any of these idiot divas that we currently have, throwing imbecilic temper tantrums....The Beatles were lucky they all had each other to keep them on the ground SOMEWHAT....and as a result, they turned out pretty damned good, considering they had the world eating out of the palm of their hands by the time they were about 23 (Lennon turned 23 in October of 1963, which was right before they played The Royal Variety Performance and also, at the end of October '63, had their first mob scene when they returned from Sweden to London...Ed Sullivan happened to be at the airport, wanted to know what all the fuss was about, and soon after booked them on to his American TV show....the rest is history....hahah) These guys could have TOTALLY been more like Michael Jackson. Lennon, of the 4, definitely was the closest to being that way....Yoko definitely didn't help.

Lennon wrote better lyrics than McCartney BY FAR. What's the summit of McCartney's lyrical powers? Hey Jude is excellent, I would say it doesn't get much better than that.

But McCartney never wrote ANYTHING close to sheer poetry like:

Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup, they slither while they pass, they slip away across the universe
Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my opened mind,
posessing and caressing me.

Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes that call me on and on across the universe,
Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they tumble blindly as they make their way across the universe

Sounds of laughter shades of earth are ringing through my open ears inciting and inviting me
Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns, it calls me on and on across the universe
Jai guru de va om

Jai guru de va, jai guru de

We miss you John, we're still listening to you. 🙂
 
one of the things i loved about john was his unique and hilarious sense of humour. and his voice was smooth and clear as glass. especially on dvd. he will live on long after mark chapman is dust in the wind. mark couldnt kill the spirit of john. his music will live on forever. i love you john i always did. and to me he looked his best that last year of his life. and that final album rocked. that song i'm just a simple guy? i think its called is so sad and poignant. and how many egotistical rock stars today would take the time to sign an autograph, and to make it even more eery to sign the autograph for his potential killer/assasin.

isabeau
 
Long live the Beatles, John Lennon, Paul McCartny, George Harrison and Ringo Starr...

As an enthusiast of their music and a collector of Beatles records, tapes, CD's, DVD's and other memorabilia since they began. I really appreciate them a great deal. They left a huge and high watermark in the field of pop music and created so many classic songs, albums and two classic films, you would need a whole book to list them all. and books have listed them all too. I know that "When I'm 64" I will still love them as a group.

I invite you all to view the movie "A Hard Day's Night" and you will see exactly what it was like for them during their Beatlmania days.

Try to imagine there being NO John Lennon at all and you will find it is impossible to do so.
 
To answer your original question Isabeau. I am sure Lennon would still of been making music today. Age certainly is not stopping McCartney. I also think that George Harrison would of stil been making music had he still been alive today.
 
Fred46 said:
051008 TMF John Lennon would have been 65

One thing I admire about John Lennon was that he was so devoted to his wife. At one point in the mid-seventies, she kicked him out for some reason. She arranged for him to have the companionship of a much younger, prettier woman so he wouldn't be lonely. He ate his heart out for Yoko and never stopped begging to get back with her. I think she put him through that for about 18 months. I don't understand what he saw in that woman, but I do admire the depth of his feeling and his loyalty. I think it is interesting that John, Paul and George, even though they were rich and famous and could have lived philandering lives like so many other celebrities, choose instead to be devoted husbands. I don't remember about Ringo, perhaps he was, too.

Fred46
Well...let's not forget that John dropped his first wife like a live grenade when he met Yoko and, according to Cynthia anyway, made no effort to even see his son for several years afterward. (Not that he was the first successful man in or out of show business to follow this pattern.) Of the four Beatles, only Paul kept that vow of till-death-do-us-part.
 
ya paul waited til death do us part, but linda wasnt his first wife either. and he sure didnt wait long to marry a young chickie. john was truly in love with yoko. or am i wrong about linda being his first wife? anyway i dont see yoko married to anyone else

isabeau
 
isabeau said:
ya paul waited til death do us part, but linda wasnt his first wife either. and he sure didnt wait long to marry a young chickie. john was truly in love with yoko. or am i wrong about linda being his first wife? anyway i dont see yoko married to anyone else

isabeau
Linda was his first wife. He was engaged for a time to Jane Asher, sister of Peter Asher (of Peter & Gordon).
 
Linda actually was the one who was married before. I believe her oldest daughter is from her first husband.
 
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