Karma

[goddess_nemesis]

I know a lot of people believe in karma. That karma's a bitch. That what goes around, comes around. That ultimately that person will get what they deserve for doing whatever it is that they did. In a way it gives people comfort that justice will be served.

I started thinking about it after reading about some of the crappy things that have been happening to someone I know. A friend of mine broke up with her ex several months ago because he had been cheating on her for nearly a year and he thought he was in love with this girl. She talked a lot about it to me, sharing her pain, and we often said that karma will get him.

Now her ex is experiencing a lot of crappy stuff. The girl he had cheated with cheated on him and they broke up. That girl is also spreading rumors about him that has resulted in him getting harassed. So, believing in karma, he's getting what he deserves for the shitty way he treated my friend. Yet, there's really no satisfaction in knowing he's suffering.

My question is: is it satisfying knowing that someone, who did something shitty, gets what they deserve?

 

[Gothika]

i feel it al depends on what they have done and the seriousness of it

 

[milagros317]

I know a lot of people believe in karma. That karma's a bitch. That what goes around, comes around. That ultimately that person will get what they deserve for doing whatever it is that they did. In a way it gives people comfort that justice will be served.

I started thinking about it after reading about some of the crappy things that have been happening to someone I know. A friend of mine broke up with her ex several months ago because he had been cheating on her for nearly a year and he thought he was in love with this girl. She talked a lot about it to me, sharing her pain, and we often said that karma will get him.

Now her ex is experiencing a lot of crappy stuff. The girl he had cheated with cheated on him and they broke up. That girl is also spreading rumors about him that has resulted in him getting harassed. So, believing in karma, he's getting what he deserves for the shitty way he treated my friend. Yet, there's really no satisfaction in knowing he's suffering.

My question is: is it satisfying knowing that someone, who did something shitty, gets what they deserve?

Definitely yes if they did something shittty to me. 😀

 

[General Zod]

You bet your bippy it feels satisfying.

 

[mysterion]

At the level of the ego, I'd say yes, but on a humanistic "being" level, minus the Ego, it would not be satisfying at all.

 

[General Zod]

Before this goes any further,I feel there are two types of karma,good and bad. if you are good,helpful,kind,etc,then good karma will come your way.

if you are bad.................................then get prepared to be shit upon.

 

[Leo tickles]

I don't believe in karma, only cause and effect.

If I punch you in the face, you'll probably punch me back.

If this guy is a cheater and a liar, he's a lower quality person. He will probably be attracted to lower quality people, so them cheating on him is no more miraculous than him cheating on them.

 

[paracarl44]

I believe in this saying: "If you give a man enough rope he will hang himself".

 

[Big_Dogg85]

I believe along the same likes as Leo...I've seen more than enough instances of good deeds that you would believe one would be flooded with of so-called "good karma" yet they get absolutely nothing in return. The same can be said for cause and effect, except you can somewhat notice good things because the immediate result is usually a smile or a thank you - doesn't mean that good things will happen to you down the line. What I have seen is enough negative cause and effect, what you call "bad karma" having noticeable impacts.

To answer your question Nemmie: I think there is a satisfaction up to the point of the act that occurred - your friend was cheated on and then your friend's ex got cheated on himself = satisfaction. The rumour-mongering and harassment he has been subject to, foregoing context, however now supercedes the satisfaction and, I believe, he is deserving of a little pity for this.

 

[Helena]

You bet your bippy it feels satisfying.

This.

Before this goes any further,I feel there are two types of karma,good and bad. if you are good,helpful,kind,etc,then good karma will come your way.

if you are bad.................................then get prepared to be shit upon.

I hadn't thought of good Karma vs. bad. Interesting.

 

[ZenTickling]

Karma is simply cause and effect. It doesn't just relate to action/inaction.. it also includes emotions, attitudes, thoughts, etc. In Buddhist philosophy we all suffer and are stuck in a cyclical existence because we cannot escape negative karma. Ideally you should pity a bad person because they are moving further away from enlightenment/heaven/whatever, but that is easier said than done.

 

[myth77]

I don't believe in karma, only cause and effect.

If I punch you in the face, you'll probably punch me back.

If this guy is a cheater and a liar, he's a lower quality person. He will probably be attracted to lower quality people, so them cheating on him is no more miraculous than him cheating on them.

Well said.

 

[mabus]

I absolutely and positively DO NOT believe in Karma, and have so much proof from my own life, others lives, and the world, that I can fill an encyclopedia with proof it doesn't exist.

Cause and effect is not karma, it's cause and effect.

If a guy is a total asshole, AT SOME POINT someone's going to kick his ass or spit in his hamburger...BECAUSE he's a total asshole.
Walk into a bar and insult enough people, and someone's going to kick the shit out of you.

Karma is, "the universe" or God or some force making things right. It also has to be proportional to the first event.
If a guy passes you in the left lane as you turn into your house and smashes your car, and continues to speed away, him getting a ticket by a cop wouldn't be karma. That's justice.
If after he passed you up, not caring if you are injured or not, continues down the road, then two blocks away someone else runs a stop sign and slams into HIS car, THAT would be considered karma.

It's an even result that seems to just happen from the universe making things right.

In reality, most people who do these things get away with it, and only get caught if they turn themselves in or the repair shop reports them to the police.
But....AT SOME POINT in their lives, they MAY get in a wreck. That can't be karma.
If someone hurts you....AT SOME POINT, something bad will happen to them in their life.

People want that to be karma, because they want revenge, justice, or at least acknowledgement of their pain, sufferings, or inconvienence.

In relationships people insist that karma happens...but come on, if she KNEW he was seeing someone, but slept with him ANYWAY, that shows her character, what kind of woman she is.
WHY WOULDN'T she sleep around on HIM?

If a guy cheats on his wife with another woman, and eventually marries that woman....he's a cheater!, he'll probaby cheat on ANOTHER woman while with his new wife!

Some proof that karma obviously doesn't exist:
-People who win lotteries rarely ever need the money, that just happens in movies. It's usually people already comfortable in life, and they usually blow it all away.
If you can't handle money as it is, why would you magically be able to handle millions more?
-There are millions of asshole bosses out there. They often get PROMOTED after treating their workers like shit, claiming credit for underling's work, lie, cheat, steal....and
eventually retire with generous benefits.
-Viscious dictators like Saddam and Kim Jong Il leave in utter luxury and comfort, their people starve, they torture and murder hundreds of poor, good civilians...yet Saddam died a quick death by hanging
and Kim Jong Il continues to live in splendid luxury while most of his people don't even have electricity and are malnourished.
-Politicians will screw up the country with their schemes, then blame the other party who had nothing to do with it, and the media will run with their story and they'll spend the rest
of their lives as paid talking heads on tv shows blaming the other guy.
-Politicians will give sweetheart deals to their buddies, the taxpayers will have to pay for it, and they'll leave office and enjoy their wealth, as will their buddies, for the rest of their lives.
All of us who paid for their fun will suffer in poverty for the rest of our lives.
-How often had taxpayers gotten money BACK from the government that wastes it with no regard to responsibility or how hard the people worked for it? Almost never, and when it happens,
it's so small it's barely worth mentioning.
-My ex-inlaws who caused me so much grief and heart ache live much better than I do, have been on multiple vacations, and have suffered ZERO karma after all they've done.
-There are scores of nice guys out there, and many won't end up with a hot girl, most of those hot girls gravitate to the assholes....who don't deserve them. I've seen girls respect total assholes
far more than they respect the really good guys. Those good guys get treated like shit!
-Hell, there are hot girls on this forum who LOVE to tickle or be tickled, and yet struggle to find a guy who will indulge them.
If karma existed, they'd be laughing everyday with their tickle buddies!

 

[ZenTickling]

Mabus,

If you examine Hindu and Buddhist teachings you'll find that Karma is cause and effect (cycle of samsara), not some mystical balancing act performed by the universe. This is a common misperception.

I would also say that you are looking at a relatively short span of time, depending on what your religious beliefs are. Buddhists believe that we've all lived before and we all live again through reincarnation. Imprints stay with our consciousness until we let go of attachments and rid ourselves of negative karma.

The concept goes with the belief system, and doesn't make much sense when taken out of context.

 

[Dave2112]

Yeah, count me out of the karma thing as well. Things happen. There's no mystical force guiding anything. But, the question was "Does it feel satisfying" when bad things happen to people who've wronged you. It's human nature to feel that way on some level. Man has invented everything from karma to religion to explain the things he does not want to accept responsibility for.

 

[venray]

I never feel good when bad things happen to others.....just sayin