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Kevin Smith kicked off plane for being "too fat"

I heard about that. That was really messed up. He was seated, able to buckle the seatbelt and put both armrests down, the standard in which Southwest judges whether "larger" person should purchase a second seat.

Dumbasses. :facepalm:
 
Well, fortunately for Smith, his celebrity status makes it entirely possible for him to make this a PR nightmare for the airline. Even bigger than it would be coming from an "Average Joe", that is. Very stupid decision by that plane's crew.
 
Adam said:
Well, fortunately for Smith, his celebrity status makes it entirely possible for him to make this a PR nightmare for the airline. Even bigger than it would be coming from an "Average Joe", that is. Very stupid decision by that plane's crew.
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Yeah, they certainly picked the wrong person to mess with. :megafail:
 
ticklingnemesis said:
Unless he wants to for his own reasons, I don't think an incident like this should inspire anyone to lose weight. Particularly when your weight wasn't a "flight risk".
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Well thats his choice. i wonder what he weighs? i didnt see it in the article.
 
Okay, my curiosity is satisfied.

I saw that the last poster in this thread was Maniac Tickler, so I was curious to see what he had to say. My first guess was actually that he would try to find some way of blaming either the captain's action or Smith's anger on the libs.

And actually someone like Kevin Smith probably should slim down if he wants to live as long as others. Hey, I wonder, was he obese as a child? Might Michelle Obama have helped him if she'd been first lady back then? Things to ponder.

Anyway, I saw your light on so I thought I'd look in and say hi. Hi, Maniac Tickler. Always good to see you.
 
They should have kicked him off of the plane for making crappy movies.
 
I fly Southwest all the time, for a variety of reasons... And, to be perfectly honest, this is one of them. There are few things less pleasant than being stuck on an airplane next to someone who overflows their own seat and encroaches (sometimes severely) into yours. Southwest requires passengers who won't fit into one of their seats to purchase two tickets. If someone who doesn't fit into their seat fails to do so, then Southwest reserves the right to boot them off of a full flight. This isn't done to embarrass anyone or to somehow discriminate against the obese. Rather, it is done as a matter of courtesy to the other passengers, who would all like to enjoy the full seat that they paid for.

I'm 6'5" and about 255 lbs, so I'm a fairly large guy. I don't encroach into anyone else's seat, but flying on an airplane is still usually quite uncomfortable for me due to the lack of legroom. I still have back problems sometimes as a result of a car accident several years ago, and being jammed into a cramped little seat for hours at a time isn't exactly helpful. To compensate, I often have to pay extra to get a direct (or the shortest possible) flight. Sometimes I'll pay to go first class, especially if my back has been acting up. I'm no stranger to having to pay extra to fly due to my physical dimensions... If I needed more than one seat, I'd pay for that as well. Kevin Smith has a lot more money than I do, so I really don't see why he couldn't do the same.
 
asutickler said:
I fly Southwest all the time, for a variety of reasons... And, to be perfectly honest, this is one of them. There are few things less pleasant than being stuck on an airplane next to someone who overflows their own seat and encroaches (sometimes severely) into yours. Southwest requires passengers who won't fit into one of their seats to purchase two tickets. If someone who doesn't fit into their seat fails to do so, then Southwest reserves the right to boot them off of a full flight. This isn't done to embarrass anyone or to somehow discriminate against the obese. Rather, it is done as a matter of courtesy to the other passengers, who would all like to enjoy the full seat that they paid for.

I'm 6'5" and about 255 lbs, so I'm a fairly large guy. I don't encroach into anyone else's seat, but flying on an airplane is still usually quite uncomfortable for me due to the lack of legroom. I still have back problems sometimes as a result of a car accident several years ago, and being jammed into a cramped little seat for hours at a time isn't exactly helpful. To compensate, I often have to pay extra to get a direct (or the shortest possible) flight. Sometimes I'll pay to go first class, especially if my back has been acting up. I'm no stranger to having to pay extra to fly due to my physical dimensions... If I needed more than one seat, I'd pay for that as well. Kevin Smith has a lot more money than I do, so I really don't see why he couldn't do the same.
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I understand that requirement, but if you fit in the seat with BOTH ARMRESTS down, you're good to go.

What is the definitive gauge for a Customer of size?
The armrest is the definitive gauge for a Customer of size. It serves as the boundary between seats and measures 17 inches in width. Customers who are unable to lower both armrests and/or who compromise any portion of adjacent seating should proactively book the number of seats needed prior to travel.
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In Smith's case, it doesn't sound like he was encroaching on another's seat or couldn't fit in the seat with the armrests down.
 
I regard requiring large people to purchase two seats as an abuse that the law just hasn't gotten around to prohibiting yet.
 
MrMacphisto said:
Pretty much. The last good Kevin Smith movie was Dogma... although I heard Clerks 2 was ok.
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Clerks 2 was awesome. I also like Zack and Miri Make a Porno. And if you've ever watched A Threevening with Kevin Smith, you'll find he doesn't give a crap about his weight, so neither should we.
 
Whether or not it's "intended" to be embarrassing, come on. Let's not play dumb. It has to be for whomever is deemed "too fat". Imagine if that were you.
 
asutickler said:
I fly Southwest all the time, for a variety of reasons... And, to be perfectly honest, this is one of them. There are few things less pleasant than being stuck on an airplane next to someone who overflows their own seat and encroaches (sometimes severely) into yours. Southwest requires passengers who won't fit into one of their seats to purchase two tickets. If someone who doesn't fit into their seat fails to do so, then Southwest reserves the right to boot them off of a full flight. This isn't done to embarrass anyone or to somehow discriminate against the obese. Rather, it is done as a matter of courtesy to the other passengers, who would all like to enjoy the full seat that they paid for.

I'm 6'5" and about 255 lbs, so I'm a fairly large guy. I don't encroach into anyone else's seat, but flying on an airplane is still usually quite uncomfortable for me due to the lack of legroom. I still have back problems sometimes as a result of a car accident several years ago, and being jammed into a cramped little seat for hours at a time isn't exactly helpful. To compensate, I often have to pay extra to get a direct (or the shortest possible) flight. Sometimes I'll pay to go first class, especially if my back has been acting up. I'm no stranger to having to pay extra to fly due to my physical dimensions... If I needed more than one seat, I'd pay for that as well. Kevin Smith has a lot more money than I do, so I really don't see why he couldn't do the same.
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I'm with Pete. He and I can fly in the animal cargo hold. :jester: My butt fits in the seat just fine, but he and I share an identical wingspan, shoulder wise. That shit aint changing without a straightjacket... no Cassi you may not. 😉 Flying just isn't extremely comfortable, but am always cognizant if someone is next to me that I'm not using them as a lean machine.

Being even 6 feet tall makes leg room cramped at best, so when I can I fly United and pay the 50 bucks extra each way for Economy Plus, which is the first 9 rows after first class, and have 6 inches of extra leg room. 6 inches may not seem like its worth 50 bucks for, but it is every time to me. On top of that, most people would rather not pay that extra bit, so there tends to be more vacancies in that section. Flying into Newark to meet Melanie to drive up to the Albany gathering last weekend, there were only 9 passengers in the Economy Plus section. We had free reign to move anywhere we wanted and every single one of us had the entire row to ourselves. People in the back asked to move up, but were denied as they hadn't paid for the upgrade. I would not have traded it for the full first class section in a million years. Besides the turbulence, it was the best flight ever. Something to keep in mind Rhino.
 
I read Southwests blog and it sounded pretty reasonable. They said what happened was that Smith bought two seats on a flight, as he apparently always does due to his size, and then decided to try to take an earlier flight. They tried to accomodate him but when everyone had boarded, two seats weren't available.
 
MTP Jeff said:
I read Southwests blog and it sounded pretty reasonable. They said what happened was that Smith bought two seats on a flight, as he apparently always does due to his size, and then decided to try to take an earlier flight. They tried to accomodate him but when everyone had boarded, two seats weren't available.
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Now THAT sounds perfectly reasonable. I'm still not keen on the idea of having to buy two tickets, though. Perhaps they need to look at other ways of accomodating folks who are that big. Maybe a tack-on fee, but not another full charge. (Airlines charge way too much in many cases to begin with.)
 
You know, I haven't seen Kevin Smith for a while, so perhaps he got larger, but from the last time i saw him, he really didn't look that big. Now, thats not to say the guy doesn't have some extra fat, cause he did when i saw him, but he certainly didn't look like he was that fat.

I also admit i'm not a fan of the notion of people having to buy two tickets if they are overtly big. While on one hand, i can understand, on the other hand, that can be a fuck of a lot of money. Perhaps the planes should start making a few rows that have extra large seats for those who don't fit into the smaller seats.
 
Adam said:
Whether or not it's "intended" to be embarrassing, come on. Let's not play dumb. It has to be for whomever is deemed "too fat". Imagine if that were you.
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I'd be motivated to lose weight.

Fast.
 
If you're border-line "too fat to fly" I'm willing to bet you're morbidly obese.
Why not take the initiative to lose the weight yourself instead of crying "discrimination"?
Obese people are already a drain on the health-care system as is.
I won't even go into the other burdens they place on society.
 
TklDuo-Ann said:
Now THAT sounds perfectly reasonable. I'm still not keen on the idea of having to buy two tickets, though. Perhaps they need to look at other ways of accomodating folks who are that big. Maybe a tack-on fee, but not another full charge. (Airlines charge way too much in many cases to begin with.)
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A tack-on fee might be a reasonable way to go. Concerning Southwest's side of the story, if that's true, then OK. But Smith is saying he was already seated and, I suppose from his point of view, wasn't inconveniencing anyone else. This strikes me as a matter of one person's word against another. :shrug:
 
i thought he was some big guy in hollywood so why was he not on a first class plane seat on an airline that has that. Or on his own plane...??????
 
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