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Lakers are complete joke... getting ass whipped by Ming-less Rockets

Very true. All the guys who made first team had phenomenal seasons. But one thing is for sure. A Lakers-Cavs Final would be fun to watch. Question is, can both teams make it? The Nuggets and Magic are no jokes...
 
Although the NBA statistics say that 79% of the time the team that wins game one will win the series, I think this series is anything but over. Two great teams are duking it out, and if The Magic can actually pull off a series upset against the Cavs, I will be proud of them. But it will take a lot. I am really looking forward to this series!
 
the Lakers vs. Nuggets series has been really good so far. Nuggets could easily be up 2-0.
 
OMG!!:yowzer:

I spoke too soon!

They're going to be playing that on ESPN for the next two days!
 
Hats off to Lebron he just saved your season



Spoken like a true cynic! Thanks for the vote of confidence...nice.

If nothing else, paying fans will get their money's worth.

We'll see what we will see............:doublethrust:
 
Spoken like a true cynic! Thanks for the vote of confidence...nice.

If nothing else, paying fans will get their money's worth.

We'll see what we will see............:doublethrust:

woulda been lights out for sure blowing another lead like that but your messiah saved you ... for now
 
woulda been lights out for sure blowing another lead like that but your messiah saved you ... for now

Let's get something straight; I only know of one Messiah, and it ain't LeBron James! I've always hated that "king james" bull crap! He's a great ball player, but he's not healing the sick or raising the dead now is he??

He did the job he's been very handsomely paid for. He put the work in, didn't crumble under pressure, and proved himself a leader of this team.

I don't know what's going to happen from here but I do know this; the Cavs will not go down without a fight. I appreciate what the Magic is bringing; they have plenty of stones and I give them credit for that. If they win, they'll represent the east well. But I haven't counted the Cavs out yet; what you do is your own business.
 
These two series are amazing.... Lakers survive a game in Denver. Hopefully they win tomorrow to put a stranglehold on Denver...

As for "King James" and the Cavs. They really should be down 0-2. That was a great shot by Lebron no doubt, but I find the media's coverage of it ridiculous. Yes, it was a game winning shot. Yes, Lebron actually delivered in the clutch. Yes, the City of Cleveland is now tied in their series, not down 0-2. Yes, it was a shot that will live on in "Where amazing happens" commercials from here on out.

The problem is, Cleveland deserved to LOSE that game. They blew a 23 point lead in that game. They would have went down 0-2 on their own floor. Yet, the media is fawning over the shot as though it capped a monumental Cleveland rally. Let's go back to 2002. Robert Horry hits a game winning 3 pointer to tie the Lakers-Kings series 2-2. Pandemonium ensues. BUT, the Lakers had to make a comeback from a 20 point deficit to win that game. The Cavs BLEW A 20 POINT LEAD.

This year in the playoffs, the Lakers have been skewered by the media (deservedly so) for blowing leads and lacking "killer instinct". They still win, but they get heavily criticized. Cleveland blew leads in BOTH games in this Eastern Conference Finals and NO ONE is skewering them? Why? Is it because Orlando played hard and fought their way back into the game? Same thing with Utah, but the Lakers lack killer instinct. Cleveland makes a miracle.

Anyone else notices this?
 
These two series are amazing.... Lakers survive a game in Denver. Hopefully they win tomorrow to put a stranglehold on Denver...

As for "King James" and the Cavs. They really should be down 0-2. That was a great shot by Lebron no doubt, but I find the media's coverage of it ridiculous. Yes, it was a game winning shot. Yes, Lebron actually delivered in the clutch. Yes, the City of Cleveland is now tied in their series, not down 0-2. Yes, it was a shot that will live on in "Where amazing happens" commercials from here on out.

The problem is, Cleveland deserved to LOSE that game. They blew a 23 point lead in that game. They would have went down 0-2 on their own floor. Yet, the media is fawning over the shot as though it capped a monumental Cleveland rally. Let's go back to 2002. Robert Horry hits a game winning 3 pointer to tie the Lakers-Kings series 2-2. Pandemonium ensues. BUT, the Lakers had to make a comeback from a 20 point deficit to win that game. The Cavs BLEW A 20 POINT LEAD.

This year in the playoffs, the Lakers have been skewered by the media (deservedly so) for blowing leads and lacking "killer instinct". They still win, but they get heavily criticized. Cleveland blew leads in BOTH games in this Eastern Conference Finals and NO ONE is skewering them? Why? Is it because Orlando played hard and fought their way back into the game? Same thing with Utah, but the Lakers lack killer instinct. Cleveland makes a miracle.

Anyone else notices this?

yes its quite noticable and the reason is because the Lakers and Kobe are like the bad guys of the NBA. Where as Lebron is supposed to be the next michael jordan, so anytime he does something good its blown way out of proportion and when something goes wrong it is downplayed and made into nothing. The league feels like they need that superman player they can push and they have chosen lebron to be that guy, so he and the cavs can do no wrong but they will jump to make the "evil" lakers look bad at every turn
 
Yep, anyone else thinking what I'm thinking? Cleveland is OVERRATED. They can still possibly come back, but they really should have been swept. Lebron's miracle saved a sweep. By the way, how come Lebron isn't making his teammates better? Those stiffs are showing their true colors. They are not big time players and Lebron is scoring a ton of points. Hmmmm, isn't that the same criticism as Kobe Bryant? Maybe now people will realize that "getting your teammates involved" is more than just passing the ball....

Speaking of the Lakers, you know, I have no idea anymore. We are good enough to win a championship and flawed enough not to win one. Andrew Bynum is still MIA. Has anyone seen Derek Fisher and Lamar Odom? I still think the Lakers make the Finals, but if they play Orlando, we just might lose. If we manage to play Cleveland, we win the title in 5. So, Go Lakers! Go Cavs!
 
I think we can beat Orlando, I mean come on the only experienced person they have in the finals is Hedo I think.

That is of course if we beat the damn Nuggets. we should not even be struggling
 
Well now........

Although there is still hope, I am dissapointed with the Cavs.

I never liked the "king James" bull in the first place, but it's gotten really bad now. The word "king" represents royalty and rights that I do not feel any man deserves just by bouncing a ball back and forth on a court. In the back of my mind, I think this is just show to keep the ticket sales and the bookies booming. But who knows at this point?

I do not feel the Cavs are overrated as some suggest. I do feel that too many have gotten used to LeBron carrying the team on his back. If it were me, I'd start with Mike Brown (who I have NEVER liked as a coach) and work my way down until I got a team who could produce. One man does not make a team make *cough......Kobe....cough* and now the Cavs are on life support because of it.

At the end of the day, none of this puts a penny in my pocket or enhances my life in any way. Would love to see Cleveland get its due, but if you don't earn it, you don't deserve it IMO.
 
I just read that the NBA has fined both Phil Jackson and the Lakers organization $25,000 each for comments Jackson has made about the refs calls during the Lakers-Rockets series. It seems to me that over the years, Jackson has been constantly criticizing the refs calls. I have Phil's book, The Last Season, his memoir of the 2003-2004 season, before his second retirement from basketball. During that season both Jackson and the Lakers orginization were, on two occasions each, fined $50,000, for comments Jackson made about the referees. In one of those instances, Jackson stated that he told the media that the referees were, to quote him, "predjudiced" in their calls against then Lakers Center Shaq O Neal.

Phil should just keep it shut, and let his team play the games on the court. He has a good team, along with probably the co best player in the league in Kobe Bryant. (I say, co, because the other best player in the league is clearly Cavs forward Lebron James) Phil and his Lakers should make their statements on the court, winning basketball games, to get back to the finals, instead of having the coach complain off the court all the time.

Mitch
 
I just read that the NBA has fined both Phil Jackson and the Lakers organization $25,000 each for comments Jackson has made about the refs calls during the Lakers-Rockets series. It seems to me that over the years, Jackson has been constantly criticizing the refs calls. I have Phil's book, The Last Season, his memoir of the 2003-2004 season, before his second retirement from basketball. During that season both Jackson and the Lakers orginization were, on two occasions each, fined $50,000, for comments Jackson made about the referees. In one of those instances, Jackson stated that he told the media that the referees were, to quote him, "predjudiced" in their calls against then Lakers Center Shaq O Neal.

Phil should just keep it shut, and let his team play the games on the court. He has a good team, along with probably the co best player in the league in Kobe Bryant. (I say, co, because the other best player in the league is clearly Cavs forward Lebron James) Phil and his Lakers should make their statements on the court, winning basketball games, to get back to the finals, instead of having the coach complain off the court all the time.

Mitch

As great as coach As Jackson is; he is the supreme whiner of all-time. It will be interesting to see if Jackson can win a championship with just one mega-superstar instead of two like he has always had before.
 
Kis, c'mon now. The whole Kobe is a "one man team" thing is not true. If there ever was a definition of a "one man team" it is Cleveland. You know, Lebron completely deserves the MVP. You take him off of Cleveland and that team is watching ping pong balls in blender hoping to get the #1 pick. That team has NO ONE but Lebron James. You take Kobe off the Lakers and they still have a shot at the playoffs with Gasol, Odom and the rest of the crew.

Actually, I WANT Cleveland to win now. Man, the Lakers could sweep those guys. Orlando is the scariest team remaining and to me, they are the favorites right now to win the crown. That's right folks, I think they can beat my Lakers. They are scary! Ask Lebron about them....

Oh yeah, for all this Kobe bashing and Lebron love, is Kobe AVERAGING 40 points in his series? Hmmm, he isn't and his team is 1 win away from the Finals. "MVP" James is averaging 40 points and his team is 1 defeat away from "fishin"....and they call Kobe the ballhog. How come Lebron isn't making his stiffs, er, I mean teammates better?
 
Kis, c'mon now. The whole Kobe is a "one man team" thing is not true. If there ever was a definition of a "one man team" it is Cleveland. You know, Lebron completely deserves the MVP. You take him off of Cleveland and that team is watching ping pong balls in blender hoping to get the #1 pick. That team has NO ONE but Lebron James. You take Kobe off the Lakers and they still have a shot at the playoffs with Gasol, Odom and the rest of the crew.

Actually, I WANT Cleveland to win now. Man, the Lakers could sweep those guys. Orlando is the scariest team remaining and to me, they are the favorites right now to win the crown. That's right folks, I think they can beat my Lakers. They are scary! Ask Lebron about them....

Oh yeah, for all this Kobe bashing and Lebron love, is Kobe AVERAGING 40 points in his series? Hmmm, he isn't and his team is 1 win away from the Finals. "MVP" James is averaging 40 points and his team is 1 defeat away from "fishin"....and they call Kobe the ballhog. How come Lebron isn't making his stiffs, er, I mean teammates better?

Prime , buddy

you kind of have two different personnas. One for if the Lakers win and one when they lose.
 
No, I don't have two personas, I always tell it like it is. I will always defend my team, but I am always aware of reality. Right now, the Orlando Magic are playing phenomenal basketball and if the Lakers and Magic do face off in the Finals, it will be an upset if the Lakers win. The Lakers are capable of beating Orlando, but they will have to play perfect basketball, something they haven't done this entire postseason.

So, GO CLEVELAND!!!! GO Lebron and his merry band of stiffs! I have absolutely NO FEAR of Cleveland. Orlando on the other hand.....

Then again, who cares about the NBA Finals if the Lakers or Cavs don't make it? As much as people can't stand Kobe Bryant, they will watch him just to see him lose. The Lakers are ALWAYS a good draw....
 
If denver plays orlando in the finals, it will probably be the least watch championship in NBA history.
 
If denver plays orlando in the finals, it will probably be the least watch championship in NBA history.

And it's thinking like that makes me want to see Orlando and Denver even more...

People think just because Kobe and Lebron didn't make the finals, that the finals would just flat out suck and that nobody would watch, when in reality no one knows for sure. Need I remind NBA fans that you had Lebron in the finals in 2007 and nobody watched. To try and make a conparison, Pittsburgh and Arizona in the Super Bwl this year was outstanding and I'll bet you asked anyone if they would watch that at the start of the year, they would more than likely laugh in your face.

Denver and Orlando might be the great finals ever played, or if you do get a Kobe vs. Lebron finals it might be so one sided that it would be just plain sad that TV time had to be wasted for it.

Ive said before and I'll say again I want to see the two best team play in the finals, I dont care who they are, just as long as they're two team that have earned the right to play for the championship.
 
I think who the Lakers opponent is in the Finals will determine whether LA wins the championship. If they play Cleveland, with Lebron James, and Cleveland having home court, the Cavs will likely win. If, however, the Lakers play Orlando, the Lakers will then have home court, and not have to deal with Lebron. If that happens, I think the Lakers will likely prevail.

Mitch
 
It looks like Orlando and the Lakers will be duking it out.

As good as Kobe is, I think Orlando's going to surprise everyone. They've certainly surprised me against Cleveland. Orlando is also more balanced than the Lakers or the Cavs. They don't depend heavily on any one player. Dwight Howard is good, but he doesn't have to pull all the weight like Lebron does. Similarly, Kobe is in a better position than Lebron because of more competent teammates, but I don't think they quite have the synergy of Orlando.
 
And it's thinking like that makes me want to see Orlando and Denver even more...

People think just because Kobe and Lebron didn't make the finals, that the finals would just flat out suck and that nobody would watch, when in reality no one knows for sure. Need I remind NBA fans that you had Lebron in the finals in 2007 and nobody watched. To try and make a conparison, Pittsburgh and Arizona in the Super Bwl this year was outstanding and I'll bet you asked anyone if they would watch that at the start of the year, they would more than likely laugh in your face.

Denver and Orlando might be the great finals ever played, or if you do get a Kobe vs. Lebron finals it might be so one sided that it would be just plain sad that TV time had to be wasted for it.

Ive said before and I'll say again I want to see the two best team play in the finals, I dont care who they are, just as long as they're two team that have earned the right to play for the championship.

from a marketing standpoint, a Denver Orlando finals would be a bust in viewership, and might vie for one of the least watched NBA finals in history. Nobody but the locals would even care who wins.

The playoff game 4 between lakers and denver was the most watched NBA game ever on cable. Game 4 of the Nuggets/Lakers series soundly beat last year’s Eastern Conference Finals Game 4 between Boston and Detroit in the ratings .


The Nuggets/Lakers game 4 delivered the highest-rated NBA game on ESPN or ABC ever locally (records date back to 2003). In L.A., the game posted the highest-rated NBA Playoff game on ESPN (with records going back to 2003).

The viewers, media and the league wants to see L A vs Boston or L A vs Cleveland. If Lebron and Cleveland come roaring back to win the series, champagne corks will be popping in media offices before the finals even begin.
 
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