Leaving Aflac Insurance..

[Mitchell]

Thanks. I see what you're saying, Myriads.

It still hurts, like hell. What is so.. shocking.. is that.. my supervisor,. who I had some issues with during my year with the company, was gracious and kind when he received my email that I was resigning. He told me that he was sorry, wished me the best, and said to contact him if there's anything he could do.

My father.. after his vicious attack on me yesterday, ignored me, and my aunt.. went on about herself.

Fuck my family, seriously. I plan to keep my phone off the next few days, reflect, and just move forward afterward. I don't delude myself to believe that anyone in my family cares how I'm feeling.

 

[squeak toy]

May my father burn in hell for his insensitivity to this situation.

sensitivity doesn't pay the rent; your father does.


i say this with peace and love.

 

[Mitchell]

squeak toy, if that was meant as a potshot, bite me, okay.

Tell you what, if you think his paying my rent is so great, maybe you need to experience the abuse and viciousness that goes along with it. Don't give me the BS of you saying it with "peace and love". It was meant as a potshot.

 

[chicago]

The word abuse is one you use casually but you do have control over your own life and can choose to accept your fathers abuse in return for rent or getting a job even if its not ideal to gain the prde and independance that comes with paying your own way.

 

[kis123]

squeak toy, if that was meant as a potshot, bite me, okay.

Tell you what, if you think his paying my rent is so great, maybe you need to experience the abuse and viciousness that goes along with it. Don't give me the BS of you saying it with "peace and love". It was meant as a potshot.

Mitchell you're doing "it" again!

Calm down, and step away from the computer; you're going to have to grow some thicker skin and learn to take the bitter with the sweet. You don't like it, but he speaks the truth. Until you are able to handle your own affairs, you are under the thumb of those handling your affairs for you. I know you don't like your father, but he has stepped up and provided for you when he doesn't have the obligation to do so. If you really don't like what he has to say, you have the option to go at it yourself. Knowing that you aren't presently capable of such, you're going to have to suck it up until you can.

Honestly speaking, you should consider yourself very blessed to have someone who is willing to help you in the manner that you've received help. There are many of us right here on this very forum who would love to be in your position.

I don't mean to appear unsympathetic but I've been hit with bad news all day regarding myself and other I'm attempting to help. One family just got hit hard in a legal matter and they just had a baby in September. I and my daughter are going through financial issues and my family is in probate watching my deceased sister's 45 years of hard labor get cut up like a Boston Market chicken! In other words, I and others are going through some major hard times and ALL of us are struggling to keep our homes. At least that's not a concern for you; get up, dust yourself off, and find another job. Let it go Mitch.....let it go and move forward with your life as best as you can.

If you're looking for empathy instead of sympathy, show yourself strong and stop with the complaining and ranting!! You're way better off than you think.....

 

[Mitchell]

What people don't realize is this.., and I'm going to respond to both Chicago and kis.

I had a professor once who said.. "If you don't know why, you don't know anything".

Chicago talks about "A job". I live in a $2000 a month apartment, which is what rent in NYC costs. No "job" that's low wage, is going to pay for such.

One of the reasons I was so excited about the opportunity at Aflac.. is because, while I knew insurance was a tough business, I also knew.. that.. perhaps.. within a year or two.. I could hopefully build up a client base.. to earn enough to pay for my $2000 a month apartment and living expenses.

In fact, after I passed the insurance exam.. I explained this to my father as the reason of why I didn't rush to get a minimum wage job the first year I was in NY.

In my 40s, I was looking for a career. to earn, even a middle class living. He said he understood that.

If you think I like his abuse.. or having to take rent from him, then you truly don't understand, Mairead.

What's more.. if any of you really knew him.... he wouldn't want me to be successful. If I had a successful insurance career.. or a business to earn enough to cover my life, he would hate that, because then I could say to him... "Treat me right or go to hell".

What he wants.. would be for me to earn minimum wage to barely be able to buy food, for him to continue to pay my rent.. so he could hold such over my head, and continue to abuse me. He bitches how he hated paying alimony to my mom, but part of him loved the power and control, so he could continually threaten to throw her in the street. He still talks about throwing her in the street. almost three years after she's DEAD. That's not normal. He has nothing to be enraged about. Neither my mom or I impeded his life in any way. My mom got a ridicuious alimony compared to what he earns, as he took world trips. I also remind people.. HE OFFERED ME THIS APARTMENT. When my mom was diagnosed in 2010, he wrote. "If something happens to your mother, I will take care of you". While I've expressed my appreciation to him many times, he had promised me grad school, and never came through.. so.. I felt that paying for this, was living up to his promise to pay for grad school. He acknowledged that himself.

Many people don't understand the dynamics of this at all. They aren't standing in the shoes.

 

[Mitchell]

Something else.. I don't know if people can understand this.

Maybe it's the upper middle class people who my parents socialized with.. but.. I come from a world where parents "Ante up" to make their children's hopes and dreams come true. It wasn't "You're out on your ass when you're 18". That's not how my friends parents operated.

Cases in point.

My former best friend's sister and brother in law, own the Melissa and Doug toy company, and are multimillionaires. My former best friend's parents.. who are, very comfortable, but not, multi millionaires, gave Melissa and Doug,. $250,000 to start their business in the early 1990s, , not knowing if the business would work. Melissa and Doug eventually paid the parents back. but.. they showed their appreciation to the parents by giving the brother in law's family jobs in their company, and not giving the sister's parents any type of job, or financial consideration,

My friend Barney's mother.. who was also., comfortable, but not a zillionaire.. paid for Barney and his sister's college and grad school, at expensive out of town schools. The mother then paid for Barney's sister's whirlwind frivolous.. one plus year trip around the world after the sister graduated from college.. that only ended when the mother insisted the sister come home, after the sister was mugged at knifepoint in Hong Kong.

Those are the type of people I know.

Maybe people cant relate, but, if I am ever comfortable, and do have a child, I have no doubt that I would/will, do everything in my power not only emotionally but also financially, to make that child's dreams come true.

 

[unclebill]

May my father burn in hell for his insensitivity to this situation.

What a terrible thing to say. He gives you thousands of dollars a month out of his own pocket, and tried to set you up with clients to get started in the insurance business and this is how you treat him??

 

[Mitchell]

Tell you what, bill, you be his son, and deal with his abuse, and then see how you like the treatment.

It's fine with you that he repeatedly attacks my mother, who has been dead for over two years, knowing how such breaks my heart, and causes me seizures, but I'm evil for wishing him to burn in hell for his abuse of me.

Once again, someone who judges without standing in the shoes.

 

[chicago]

You're the one that brings your family situation into the equation so you really can't turn around and say we don't know because we're judging based on what you're telling us... and have been telling everyone and anyone for the last like decade. If you aren't prepared to hear the feedback, don't bring up the subject.

Think about people who actually deal with real abuse - physical, sexual, emotional, etc. Your whining is a slap in the face to them. Daddy paying for your fancy 2 grand a month apt and going with you to help you on your job etc etc is not abuse. What's worse is how every other day you call that abuse. Your father has a right to tell you what he thinks about your life since he's basically paying for your life. If you were that upset about it, you'd focus on many different options, ones that were feasible for you. If it bothered you that much, you would suck it up and deal with less than ideal living conditions (maybe in a neighborhood that is not as pretty or perhaps get a room-mate or two).

To be honest, I don't know why you'd even go into a field where how much money you make is dependent on selling things, because despite all your efforts, you haven't been able to overcome challenges that very much affect the work, and you sure as hell haven't sold anyone here on your sob story. So, I don't see how that was even a good idea to begin with.

Until you change your mindset on what 'abuse' is and find the motivation to just bite the bullet and accept things that may not be ideal, then I'm afraid your situation with your family and finances will never be any different.

Told you it was a bad idea to bring your personal issues into this. Then again, you haven't learned not to share all your drama in the main forums, so why would you learn to change anything else about how you see the world...

Guess I'm at fault though too for continuing to think any of this will ever sink in...

 

[Mitchell]

Mairead, I'm not going to tell you what I really think, because you're simply not worth my getting banned over, okay.

"Daddy paying for my fancy 2 grand a month apartment".

The same "Daddy" who threatened to send a hit man to my college campus.. to have me executed, and who caused me to have to take out a restraining order against him for such actions.

The Same Daddy whose adversarial client was going to send a hit man to my campus to kill me, until my father's business partner convinces the adversary that doing so wouldn't affect my father in the least.

The same Daddy that is best friends with his brother, my uncle, who physically pushed me out of a moving car when I was 10 years old.

Before you pass your sassy judgement, know all the facts, okay, because your attitude makes you not only sound uncivil,, but also uninformed.

 

[Jericho716]

Mitchell, what would you do if (God forbid) your father died tomorrow? What would the next 3-6-12 months of your life look like?

You're running out of time, both time you'll have with your father, and time you have left to make something of yourself before you're on your own.

Honestly, where will you live? What will you do?

 

[Mitchell]

You know what, Jericho,. right now, I don't know, and I don't care.

Don't give me the "Make something of my life speech". I spent the last 14 months investing my heart and soul into a field that I thought had a future, with s salary I could live on. It didn't work out for me.

All I'm getting are attacks about my father, but that aspect is not examined.

 

[Jericho716]

You know what, Jericho,. right now, I don't know, and I don't care.

Don't give me the "Make something of my life speech". I spent the last 14 months investing my heart and soul into a field that I thought had a future, with s salary I could live on. It didn't work out for me.

Hey, no worries man. Shit happens. You'll move on and look back on this and hopefully laugh. Colonel Sanders was turned down over 1,000 times before he finally went into business for himself and started KFC.

All I'm getting are attacks about my father, but that aspect is not examined.

I just wonder, if he's truly so awful, why would you want to accept anything from him (especially money)? I'm not doubting you, but if somebody "abused" me in any way, shape or form, they'd be out of my life completely, forever. Even if I was homeless on the street, I wouldn't take a penny. How do you feel when you accept money from him (for your rent)?

 

[Mitchell]

I'm going to tell everyone something, back on the topic of Aflac, and having nothing to do with my father.

I want to make one thing perfectly clear:

Even though I no longer work for them as of yesterday:

I appreciate the fact that they gave a complete unknown with no experience in the insurance industry, a chance to take and pass the insurance exam, and to work for them. They were extremely patient and fair with me, as I worked to pass the exam, and during this year.

In no way do I feel "Victimized by them". I'm not angry that I was going to be fired had I not resigned. Bottom line.. in business, if you don't produce, you don't stay around.

I had a limitation in that I cant cold call due to my stutter.

That being said: I did attempt many avenues to get clients, that did not work.

Additionally, legitimately, I felt. frustrated, and limited by the restrictions on the type of clients we were allowed to sign. I was unable to approach,, my former company, Market America, because it is a "Network Marketing company", and could not approach or talk to.. TGI Fridays, because my supervisor said we couldn't talk to the "Decision maker" even though the GM in my local branch was willing to talk to us.

In this case, while I know I had my limitations due to not being able to cold call, Aflac also severely limited the clients we could talk to and sign.

That being said: I still very much enjoyed working there. I appreciate the opportunity they gave me, and the feeling I'm having as I leave is one of sadness, and not anger.

 

[Mitchell]

I don't like accepting it, but I'm trapped in a situation

 

[Jericho716]

That being said: I still very much enjoyed working there. I appreciate the opportunity they gave me, and the feeling I'm having as I leave is one of sadness, and not anger.

Well, you learned from it. It wasn't a failure; it was a learning experience. If you can say you tried the best you could, that's what counts in the end. You're a baseball fan, and as hard as every player/team tries, only one of them can win the World Series.

It's a competitive world out there when it comes to jobs and employment, so really look into temp jobs that your therapist suggested. They're temporary, so it might help you take your mind off of things, do something new, and even meet new people. That's the best part of most jobs.

I don't like accepting it, but I'm trapped in a situation

There you go. That's a much better tone and rhetoric. It's never good to let anybody get you that angry and upset to the point of wishing or saying hateful things.

Like the saying goes, don't rent "real estate" in your brain to the negative influences in your life.

 

[Mitchell]

What I'm most angry at.. in regard to my father.. are his insensitivity and attacks when I have terrible things happen in my career.

A parent with a heart, mind, and soul, doesn't say what he said, which is the following..

"People do what they have to do"

Had it been me, and had my son, at any age, put 14 months of his heart and soul into a field the son had no experience in, I would have said the following, whether I was giving him $1 a month, $2000 a month, or $10,000 a month.

"I'm very sorry it didn't work out for you, Mitch. I know you loved working at Aflac, and are really feeling upset about having to leave. Clear your head for a bit, find a temp job, think about your next move, and if you need to discuss it with me, we'll do so. "

That is NOT what he said.

When I sent him an email yesterday telling him I resigned.. he ignored me, and its more than 24 hours later.

Who I'm most angry at..

Is the law firm that jerked us around for five months. Honestly, I think they had no intention of signing, ever, and were just looking to drag along an insurance company. Don't tell us you're signing Jan 1, and then balk after five months of telling us you were going to sign with us. .

I'm also angry that my father told me not to be angry at the lawyer who caused this whole mess. My feelings of anger at both my father, and the law firm, are absolutely justified, considering the way the whole thing turned out. .

Those are the feelings I have.

 

[Jericho716]

I can be angry at anyone I want.

Those are the feelings I have.

And that's fine... as long as it leads to something.

Don't just let the anger boil over inside of you. Focus it into something productive. A lot of people will take angry feelings over others and use that as a sort of motivation to "prove them wrong."

If not, and somebody just sits around feeling angry, it's a waste of time and unneeded stress, which will only hurt you in the long run. If you're feeling angry and stressed, consider continuing to work out. Great way to get rid of that, and it'll only benefit you in the long run.

 

[Mitchell]

I see your point, and I do work out on the treadmill, 2 miles, three times a week. Today was my day off because I just did it yesterday, and my legs are sore. Tomorrow morning, early, its back to the gym. In fact, a lot of my neighbors are commenting on how much weight I've lost.

 

[chicago]

Dont tell the world about your family if you cant take their responses.

If you bring it up, its part of the conversation. Most people would rather live with a friend, work three shitty jobs etc to not live under the control of a murderer. Somehow, despite all your advantages and intelligence, youve not been able to do that. Weird. Guess its everyone elses fault huh? Lol

Quit crying that your daddy tried to kill you but now takes care of you and somehow its still not enough cuz he didnt coddle you after you lost the job he got you. Wah fuckin wah dude. Grow up, toughen up, get a job. Simple as that. Do one thing for yourself. Jesus. Does someone cook for and feed you? Do you have someone helping you wipe your ass too

 

[Mitchell]

You really are absolutely delusional, Mairead.

Every post of yours toward me is an uninformed personal attack on me, even if it isn't treated as such..

"The job my father got me"., : You say, without any knowledge whatsoever, and with only intent to attack. .

I passed A PROFESSIONAL LICENSING EXAM, you uninformed individual.

The same state exam as Keith, my supervisor, Jason, my mentor, and all the other agents I worked with at Aflac, passed. The state of New York didn't make up an exam especially for Mitch .

My father didn't pay off the licensing board of NYS to get them to give me a passing mark on the insurance exam.

I took the exam, several times, before passing it.

My father didnt know anyone at Aflac to get me that job.

Aflac contacted me themselves, and offered me the position, and a contract, based on my previous experience in sales., .

All my father did was put me in touch with a CLIENT.

Your posts are nothing but all attacks, but its allowed,. Know why? Because apparently, you';re one of the mods favorites, because you have a face and a body. Your character is completely lacking, but, because you apparently have special free passes, its allowed.,

 

[Mitchell]

I'm going to tell you something else, Mairead, but it doesn't matter, because you live in your own delusional world.

My father made a lot of money in the 1980s when he was still married to my mom.

You know who got my father the client who introduced my father to the business partner with whom my father made all that money? My maternal grandfather. Without that introduction, my father would not have done nearly as well as he did.

How did my father show his appreciation to my maternal grandfather for giving him the client that created the path to my father;s success for over a decade?

My grandfather had a stroke, and was in a nursing home. The two families had an argument, and my grandfather, who was not part of the argument said "I wish Alan would come and see me". For over a year, as my grandfather lay bedridden in a nursing home, my father refused to go see him. My grandfather passed away, wanting to see my father, and my father would not go.

You know nothing, but yet you pass judgement like you know everything.

With each post and attack you make, it shows your character.

 

[chicago]

Yeah yeah. People are sick of your overgrown spoiled brat routine and the mods let people respond in such a way because they've told you 1000x not to post your whiny bullshit in the main forums.

Here's example #20234234 showing how badly it goes when you do.

No one's gonna say "poor baby." Sorry dude.

 

[Mitchell]

Whatever, Mairead. You post twisted things, consistently, and its allowed.

I didn't post whiny bullshit. I posted a fact. People have setbacks. Things happen to humans. Except to you, because.. the traits you display in your posts towards me are subhuman. '


Say whatever the fuck you want. I seriously don't care. There is a greater force that will one day get even with you.

No matter what bad would happen to you, or those you love, Mairead, or how bad, you will get zero sympathy from me.