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kristof

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Hi!

I'm a lee and my wife's a ler. She's not a fetishist herself, but she loves me and sometimes tortures me. She's very merciful and caring though. The question is - how can I convince her to be more vicious, so she'll push me to the limit and beyond? I only want to add that she seems quite comfy with all tickle stuff, so that's not the point.

Thx in advance 🙂
 
Tell her 'C'mon, go harder'. Probably set up a safeword, so she knows she can keep going and push you but when you want to seriously stop she will.
 
Well as simple as it is, your solution has one big downside - telling her that just didn't work 🙂

She's very ticklish herself and hates it so she thinks it's a terrible torture for me and in result has some kind of blockade in her head - that's what she says at least 🙂
 
Tell her how hot it makes you and that she'll be rewarded with mindblowing sex after.
 
Might I suggest a "baby steps" approach? I'm not sure how long she tickles you for, but the next time, get a certain time down, then slowly expand on that time each time you have tickle play. Say she tickles you for, oh, 30's normally. Next time she tickles you, get her to go an additional 5 minutes, and then the next time, add another fives minutes. She's hesitant because she doesn't fully understand, but by extending the time slowly, she will see that making the tickling a little worse won't harm you, and your still enjoying it. With any luck she'll eventually get over her objections, and have you screaming like a little boy under her nails 😉
 
Explain to her that you would love to be tickled senseless, beyond what she has done before. Set up a safeword which you can use in case of genuine distress. That should allow her to be more relentless, knowing that you haven't used your safeword means you want it to go on.
 
There is always 'asking for it'. This may work, it may not.

The punishment angle is always good. She loves to torture you, but she doesn't like it, right? Well, give her a reason to really get you. If you know she is gonna tickle you, do and say things you know annoy her. Pick at her pet peeves. Don't piss her off obviously cuz that could completely turn her off. But if you do it nice, teasing, subtle way, you can get her to maybe punish you. Now I don't know your wife, so this may not work. Also taunting her while she is tickling you could work; saying she can do better or "is that all you got?" may get her goat. Now this may also turn her off, so you have to weigh your options. these are my only ideas now.
 
Thanks, great ideas! Another question to you is about a position. We always go with spread eagle and it's great, but can you suggest some different bondage? Also is there any way of immobilising lee without physical restrains?
 
Also is there any way of immobilising lee without physical restrains?

This sounds like a bit of a contradiction. Are you talking about immobolising a person without physical use, or are you simply refering to physical restraint without bondage, in which case simply sitting on the back of the calves can work, i suppose.
 
If by "without physical restraints" you mean . . .

kristof, if by "without physical restraints" you are asking for another home-made bondage suggestion (as opposed to buying stocks, cuffs, and other bondage-specific equipment) so it's not always spread-eagle on the bed, I recommend:

:bugeyed: a study four-leg desk chair with arm rests. Your wife can have you where she wants you, wrists tied to arm rests, ankles to front desk legs. She can tickle you in what I'm guessing are the usual places except your feet and underarms, but she can get to your feet by tipping the chair (and you) back to the floor, elevating your feet to a most vulnerable postion - it would be no different than leg stocks, as far as tickling feet is concerned. And to tickle your underarms, I recommend:

:bugeyed: your bedroom door. She can tie your wrists together with one piece of rope, your ankles together with a second piece, and then run a third rope tied to your bound wrists over the top of the door, forcing your arms up, then down the other side and under the bottom, fastening it to your bound ankles.

Good thing you seem a 'lee at heart. Were I married to a female tickler who was also ticklish but would not let me get even, that might be too frustrating. I would find such an arrangement with a female 'ler tickle buddy (who either does not allow me to tickle her or isn't ticklish) hot in small doses, but not as an exclusive arrangement.
 
Jeeezus..i just screeeem and say Tickle Me More Dammit!!!..i can take it!! ..believe me she'll understand ..and then Watch out!!!!!:bounce:
 
New position: Lay on your stomach with your arms spread apart and your legs together. This will give her access to your sides, underarms and back. It will also let her explore ticklish places that she, and even you, never knew where there. Try the backs of your knees and thighs. If you are really feelin' frisky, she can try your bottom to see if it is ticklish...or something else. Your feet will also be more exposed. Also, you won't be able to see what she is doing as well. You can anticipate yet there will still be an element of surprise.

As for restraint without bondage: Sit on your hands and have her mount you. It also works reverse cowgirl. In that position she can tickle you without you seeing it.

Now, I challenge you to get tickled without restraint. Allow yourself to squirm, wiggle and use your will to sit still. That way you can try self restraint. Not only will it be more fun/interesting, when you pull away you will know your super ticklish spots. So when you do get restrained she will know where to focus.
 
Wow, Thanks for all the advice! It's great!

Also sorry for my english - it's not my native language 🙂

I meant all the new positions - both with and without restrains. However, I'm very ticklish and quite big and strong so I appreciate ideas that keep my Honey safe 😉

Keep it coming - reading your posts is awesome new knowledge!
 
Best way to immobilize someone without physical restraints -- especially if they are smaller -- is probably leverage. Lie on the couch with your feet over the edge and have her straddle your ankles and tickle your feet. 🙂
 
Also, laying on the floor and 'sit' on the edge of the bed. This will put your feet up near the bed and make it hard to pull away.
 
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