My story, and my disappointment.

[ZeroLuckGuy]

I haven't been very happy recently. Medical problems, job problems, family problems, pretty much anything you can think of has been causing me stress. To say the least, luck as not been on my side in life.

I was bullying when I was younger, not by older kids or jocks, but by those I thought were my friends. I was always the worst one on any team sport I would play. I have maybe 2 friends in life, and even that number seems high. Never had a girlfriend, better yet never been on a date.

My best estimate is I've been visiting the TMF and reading all the stories and experiences for at least 10 years now. And in all that time I have yet to meet one person showing the smallest interest in tickling a guy as depicted on this forum. The theory I most commonly come across and agree with (I think) is that a group of women would jump at a chance to tickle a guy crazy. And that's how I've been bringing this whole concept up to people - as a group fun event, not a two person get together (that seems more romantic and intimate, which I am not after). But if that theory is true, where are these women? Do they even exist? In 10+ years I have not met one? It makes me think everyone here is just role-playing.

Recently there was NEST. I always read about it and wish I could I go. My current life status prevents me from doing alot of things, not to mention the financial aspect of attending a gathering. So is that the reason I have not been able to experience any of this? Money?

All the video and pictures I see are starting to seem not real to me. I don't mean they are fake, but more happening in some other universe or dimension, and we just see the footage from it. Not only am I looking for my first experience, I haven't met anybody who has ever done anything related to something like this. Is it this all just fantasy? Does stuff like this actually happen? I even brought this up to a girl who had an interest in me romantically, and she was on the fence about it, but nothing happened. If I can't get something to happen with her, then what are my chances?

I can't remember what sparked my interest in tickling. If I had to guess I would say I accidentally came across it while searching for something else on the internet. Then something about all this stuck in my head. Point is I've been trying to go ahead with being tickled for so long I don't even know why I want to anymore. I'm at the point I just want to find or meet somebody in life to know they actually exist.

I must say these 10+ years of disappointment, along with other problems in my life, make me wonder what is the point of trying for anything anymore? The last person I brought this up to decided to give me examples of who she would like to tickle crazy. If this or that person asked her, then she would be up for it. But not me. How do you think that makes me feel? It makes me think if someone else were to bring this up to all the people I have asked over the years, then their response would be different.

A person can only take so much failure and let-downs before it starts to change them. I can now say I do not think this will ever happen for me. I can see myself getting a better job, getting married, having kids, but this - will never happen.

I don't know what I am trying to say with this. I guess I had to vent somewhat. Hopefully there is no one else out there in the same position I am. One person like me is enough.

Thanks for listening...

 

[voided9]

First off, a warm-hearted welcome to the forum! I'm sorry to hear of your struggle - many people here can relate. There is always hope, and there are ways to go about setting up sessions such as the personals here, Fetlife, or dungeons [but that requires money, so may not be in your best interest at the moment]. If possible, you could save some money to attend NEST a different year? If you'd like to talk further and just need a listening ear, please feel free to PM me! I wish you luck in your search and I hope things turn around for you!

 

[mabus]

Don't know if this will make you feel better, but it's meant to, and be a statement of reality:

Mathematics is against you....and the rest of us as well. And anyone else with a fetish, unless it's a damn common one.

I'm 37, and up to this point, I may have possibly maybe who-the-hell even knows met ONE person who may have a tickle fetish, just because she
seemed to like tickling her cousin. Who was extremely ticklish and had gorgeous feet.....damn.
Me and this girl also hated each other's guts, and No, there won't be any "tickle hate fights" or anything between us. She's married now, I haven't seen her in years,
which is fine by the both of us.

Having said that, I've met literally thousands of guys and girls, and have good associations with over a thousand people.
I have no clue if ANY of them has any kind of fetish at all! I know ONE guy who has a red head fetish, maybe two guys, but that's something
guys will reveal, or at least these two guys happily did!

Otherwise.....nothing.

Yes, there are obviously girls who have huge tickle fetishes, some are probably smoking hot by sheer stats and possibilities, and some may be fantastic human beings to boot.
But the chances of 1.) finding them, and 2.) they be interested in you is sadly profoundly slim. (This isn't meant to be negative in any way to you, I mean statistically women and men are only attracted to a few select people, and you'd have to fit her type. I've met scores of women who had no romantic interest in me, and I've met scores that I have zero romantic interest in. Nothing against them,
many are great close friends, but I'm not planning on dating or marrying any of them, and they show no romantic interest in me. Thus is life.)

I wish this weren't the case. I wish we humans had ways of detecting who had what fetish, so we wouldn't have to waste our time and probably lose in the end.
If I had one wish, I'd consider asking for that power, it'd make life damned easier!

You may just have to meet so many people that eventually you'll hit the jackpot.....but on a positive side, ...again, there ARE women out there who like tickling.......

Luckily, you DO have this place, that features people who all share your interest, and even have variations of the fetish - bare foot lovers, nylon lovers, gays, straights, etc.

 

[TickleYouPink]

You should read this thread.

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

Don't know if this will make you feel better, but it's meant to, and be a statement of reality:

Mathematics is against you....and the rest of us as well. And anyone else with a fetish, unless it's a damn common one.

I'm reminded of some telemarketing fact, that in order to sell a magazine or whatever one would need to call like 100 people before selling. Is that the kind of odds for people like us?

And are you saying in order for someone to be up for this they MUST have a FETISH for it?

 

[ISUmark]

You should read this thread.

This. Id be surprised if a lot of whats in that post didnt apply to you as well. I also see your in Nj/NY which is a hotbed for any sorts of fetish activity. Its out there man, but are you putting yourself out there to find it? The things you want in life wont just come to you, you have to go get them.

 

[rhiannon]

And are you saying in order for someone to be up for this they MUST have a FETISH for it?

No. Not if you just want to be tickled. Usually, a girl being romantically interested in you should have no problem tickling you. It's nothing bad! But I can tell you it is much more fun if the other person DOES have a fetish for it.

 

[Morpheus72]

Yep, read what ISUMark writes in the thread referenced above. I am another man that's proof that if your girlfriend or wife loves you, they'll do something for you that they don't really care for. She does it for me because she knows it makes me happy.

Also, the importance of confidence can't be overstated here. If you come across IRL as you do in this thread, you will have few opportunities. Confidence doesn't mean "be an ass", though some girls like that. Confidence means don't be scared to be yourself. Do what you enjoy. Be interesting. Find some happiness in your single life. Basically, live well, be happy, and project that.

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

Yep, read what ISUMark writes in the thread referenced above. I am another man that's proof that if your girlfriend or wife loves you, they'll do something for you that they don't really care for. She does it for me because she knows it makes me happy.

Also, the importance of confidence can't be overstated here. If you come across IRL as you do in this thread, you will have few opportunities. Confidence doesn't mean "be an ass", though some girls like that. Confidence means don't be scared to be yourself. Do what you enjoy. Be interesting. Find some happiness in your single life. Basically, live well, be happy, and project that.

IRL?

 

[TickleYouPink]

"In Real Life"

 

[mabus]

No. Not if you just want to be tickled. Usually, a girl being romantically interested in you should have no problem tickling you. It's nothing bad! But I can tell you it is much more fun if the other person DOES have a fetish for it.

Yep, this exactly.

It's okay, maybe even great if they do indulge you, and if they really get into it.....marry them and do the damn dishes too, she's a winner!!

But it's obviously a whole different show if they also have a fetish - you KNOW they are totally into it, and there's no judging of you. They feel just as you do or maybe more so.

With someone who doesn't have a fetish...I would always believe, somewhere deep down, they're thinking "God, this guy is weird!" Whereas deep down, the tickle fetishist
is thinking "This is heaven, I hit the jackpot!"

But again, if I had someone who didn't have a fetish, but indulged the hell out of mine, I'd be pretty damn happy and content, trust me.

 

[Speedbump]

Get real drunk and get real high, or you gonna cry 'til you die.

 

[Mitchell]

ZeroLuckGuy.. First off, welcome to the forum. Let me begin by saying that you seem like a very sincere, kind person, and I'm sorry all that you posted has happened to you.

I don't know how closely you've read my threads.. but.. if you have.. you see that the last three years have been very difficult for me, with my mom's cancer and death, and complete changes in my life not for the better.

You mentioned what is the point of trying for anything anymore. While I can understand and appreciate that frustration, I can also say to you that as frustrating as things seem, please don't give up. My mom always said "Where there's life, there's hope". She followed that motto, all through her 74 years, right through her cancer battle, up until shortly before she died.

I do hope you can find positive things on this forum, that will help you feel better in your real life.

 

[SoleMates]

I was bullying when I was younger, not by older kids or jocks, but by those I thought were my friends.

So was I. I've suffered a lot of... for lack of a better term, "betrayals" in my life. Rude surprises from people who I thought cared about me who did a complete 180. And now, people criticize me and say that I self-sabotage my relationships because I don't trust anyone. Bad circle, that. Has real potential to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, as people get tired of you assuming they're going to disappear and get the hell out of Dodge, thus proving you right when they... disappear.

But, I digress. I feel ya.

But if that theory is true, where are these women? Do they even exist?

Yes, they exist. Some were born, others were made. NEST is huge. There are women here. There is an active Gathering scene on the west coast, and others all over the country. I personally converted all of my (previously-)vanilla girlfriends into ticklephiles. It's really not a big deal.

In 10+ years I have not met one? It makes me think everyone here is just role-playing.

Some are, some aren't.

So is that the reason I have not been able to experience any of this? Money?

That could be part of it. But, NEST is not the only tri-state area gathering. Connect with other locals and go from there, if you can.

All the video and pictures I see are starting to seem not real to me. I don't mean they are fake, but more happening in some other universe or dimension, and we just see the footage from it. Not only am I looking for my first experience, I haven't met anybody who has ever done anything related to something like this. Is it this all just fantasy? Does stuff like this actually happen?

Well, the plots of most videos are fantasy, yes. And the ones that aren't... well, they're constructed as product, but sure. Some of these guys have dungeons in their basements and do actually play with women.

That said, though, despite (ironically) being a producer of said videos, I really don't like using clips as an outlet for my fetish. I've been watching clips for years. I really, really prefer the real thing to sitting on one side of the screen and wishing I was on the other... which is all that watching a clip is for me.

I must say these 10+ years of disappointment, along with other problems in my life, make me wonder what is the point of trying for anything anymore?

I feel the same way. I've been single for so long, I don't think I'd know what to do with a girlfriend if I had one. I've gotten too used to being alone to have anyone else in my life.

If this or that person asked her, then she would be up for it. But not me. How do you think that makes me feel? It makes me think if someone else were to bring this up to all the people I have asked over the years, then their response would be different.

This is how a lot of people feel about other stuff, like sex. "Oh, really? You like sex? Wow. Love it, you say? Can't live without it? Amazing! You wanna do it? ...oh. Okay, I understand. When you said you like sex, you meant just not with me. Gotcha."

Rejection's a bitch. Having a fetish is just one more complication to the already fucked-up situation that is finding a partner.

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

This. Id be surprised if a lot of whats in that post didnt apply to you as well. I also see your in Nj/NY which is a hotbed for any sorts of fetish activity. Its out there man, but are you putting yourself out there to find it? The things you want in life wont just come to you, you have to go get them.

Absolutely. I do hear the NYC area is popular for this stuff. One of the most populated areas must increase the chances I would think. But apparently I am wrong mainly because I am lacking money. So traveling and seeing a dom is out of the question.

I am not just sitting around, I am going after it. Just failing constantly....

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

No. Not if you just want to be tickled. Usually, a girl being romantically interested in you should have no problem tickling you. It's nothing bad! But I can tell you it is much more fun if the other person DOES have a fetish for it.

It seems like that is a must then. One thing I stress over is how to bring it up to someone. Obviously this is not a common topic of discussion.

For example I know this person, who I know would not be into this at all, and I know that at the start. But I still would like to know her thoughts on the whole scenario. She has a very unique personality and view on things. And just hearing her opinion would be fascinating enough. Problem is, I am scared to death to ask her about it. And the bothers me more. Are we really at a point in the world where we have to be scared to ask a person a question. This causes me more stress and disappointment...

Maybe this whole thing is a dream that is not supposed to happen. :/

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

Yep, read what ISUMark writes in the thread referenced above. I am another man that's proof that if your girlfriend or wife loves you, they'll do something for you that they don't really care for. She does it for me because she knows it makes me happy.

Only a significant other? A friend can't care enough to help with something that would make you happy?

Also, the importance of confidence can't be overstated here. If you come across IRL as you do in this thread, you will have few opportunities. Confidence doesn't mean "be an ass", though some girls like that. Confidence means don't be scared to be yourself. Do what you enjoy. Be interesting. Find some happiness in your single life. Basically, live well, be happy, and project that.

It's hard to have confidence when its one failure and disappointment after another. I hope that makes sense.

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

With someone who doesn't have a fetish...I would always believe, somewhere deep down, they're thinking "God, this guy is weird!" Whereas deep down, the tickle fetishist
is thinking "This is heaven, I hit the jackpot!"

But again, if I had someone who didn't have a fetish, but indulged the hell out of mine, I'd be pretty damn happy and content, trust me.

So why bother going through with asking someone who doesn't have a fetish for this? Would't it come off as them doing me a "favor"?

Seems like a person MUST have a fetish for this thing, it can't just be done for fun.

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

ZeroLuckGuy.. First off, welcome to the forum. Let me begin by saying that you seem like a very sincere, kind person, and I'm sorry all that you posted has happened to you.

I don't know how closely you've read my threads.. but.. if you have.. you see that the last three years have been very difficult for me, with my mom's cancer and death, and complete changes in my life not for the better.

You mentioned what is the point of trying for anything anymore. While I can understand and appreciate that frustration, I can also say to you that as frustrating as things seem, please don't give up. My mom always said "Where there's life, there's hope". She followed that motto, all through her 74 years, right through her cancer battle, up until shortly before she died.

I do hope you can find positive things on this forum, that will help you feel better in your real life.

Thank you.

Yes I can always have hope, but after a while doubt creeps into one's mind. How long do I have to wait for something positive to happen? Will it ever happen? Feels like waiting and wishing is all I do. I wish God could just appear before me and tell me my future so I can stop wasting my time if never will.... 🙁

 

[TheTicklist]

Zero luck. Sorry for your struggles. Ive been fortunate not to feel that kind of loneliness for very long but when its there its devastating so hang in there. I know a lot of people struggle to find the fetish partnerbut my advice is to stop looking for tickle fetish partner and start looking for companion. Find a girl . Be the best guy you can be. Then when there is friendship and trust and affection there then introduce the tickling. but dont introduce it as THe Fetish, just another form of play. beleive me, if she likes it you will know and she will get how you feel about it.

i think a lot of people seem to get fetishy right out of the gate, and it will kind of make a person feel a little objectified. Ne patient and be yourself you sound like a thoughtful guy. You'll get there

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

So was I. I've suffered a lot of... for lack of a better term, "betrayals" in my life. Rude surprises from people who I thought cared about me who did a complete 180. And now, people criticize me and say that I self-sabotage my relationships because I don't trust anyone. Bad circle, that. Has real potential to be a self-fulfilling prophecy, as people get tired of you assuming they're going to disappear and get the hell out of Dodge, thus proving you right when they... disappear.

But, I digress. I feel ya.

Yeah, the world can suck most of the time...

Yes, they exist. Some were born, others were made. NEST is huge. There are women here. There is an active Gathering scene on the west coast, and others all over the country. I personally converted all of my (previously-)vanilla girlfriends into ticklephiles. It's really not a big deal.

How in the world do you convert a vanilla?

That said, though, despite (ironically) being a producer of said videos, I really don't like using clips as an outlet for my fetish. I've been watching clips for years. I really, really prefer the real thing to sitting on one side of the screen and wishing I was on the other... which is all that watching a clip is for me.

Exactly, I'm sick of watching and reading. And this could go for anything in life, like riding a roller coaster. I just want to do it already... 🙁

I feel the same way. I've been single for so long, I don't think I'd know what to do with a girlfriend if I had one. I've gotten too used to being alone to have anyone else in my life.

Seems like we have alot in common.... 🙁

 

[TheTicklist]

Solemates is right. Conversion of a vanilla is not that tough. little bit like gardening takes patience but does not respond to fertilizer. it all starts with feeling better about yourself . you might be putting the zero luck vibe out to the world. its a surprisingly ineffective aphrodisiac.

 

[ZeroLuckGuy]

Solemates is right. Conversion of a vanilla is not that tough. little bit like gardening takes patience but does not respond to fertilizer. it all starts with feeling better about yourself . you might be putting the zero luck vibe out to the world. its a surprisingly ineffective aphrodisiac.

That sounds like just think happy thoughts and good things will happen type of a deal...
Is there some manual to converting a vanilla. That task doesn't even sound realistic to me.

 

[smokinj]

Dude, way to be a Debbie downer. Reading your extremely depressing posts make me want to jump off a bridge. I think your problems are far deeper then finding some chick to tickle you. If you had any money at all, instead of finding a dom, find a shrink and get help. Life is good man. Suck it up. People on a fetish forum are not exactly the best people to ask for advice. The irony is not lost on the fact that I am doing that very thing to you.

Bottom line is, nobody likes a whiner. Quit complaining about how horrible your life is. Some people have it far worse than you and say nothing. Have some dignity and self respect for Christ's sake!

 

[SoleMates]

That sounds like just think happy thoughts and good things will happen type of a deal...
Is there some manual to converting a vanilla. That task doesn't even sound realistic to me.

I've converted all of my girlfriends. One of the tricks is to basically present it like something fun. If they decide it's fun too, off you go.

I've also tickled friends. If it's something you both want to do, it'll happen.

Read my thread "Talking about tickling - ur doin it right" for a story about one of the times I got a friend to let me tickle her.